[DX-NEWS] RE: Unbelievable!

[Ron Notarius W3WN]

(Discussion moved to DX Chat as per NJDXA reflector rules)

With all due respect Joe, since the DXCC Desk has not announced their
reasoning, it is premature at best to start railing at them for "thumbing
their noses at the DXCC rules."

Distance is not the only criteria involved.

And for that matter, you yourself admitted on the CQ Contest reflector that
the Great Circle distance between the closest points on Bonaire and Saba was
801 km & change.  That IS the criteria that has been used for distance in
the recent past, and it IS (barely) more than enough.

You and only you, to my knowledge, is claiming a lesser calculation (799.6
km & change) according to the WGS84 "spherical" calculation, which has never
before been used.  You and only you are demanding that the DXCC use this
allegedly more precise calculation.  

Come to think of it, you have been setting yourself up to gripe about this
for weeks if not months.  I do believe you made more than a few
announcements on CQ Contest that if the DXCC Desk did not do as you
demanded, you were going to raise holy heck.  Well, they didn't, and sure
enough, here you are.  

And I don't want another Baldwin's Reef, or another Romeo or Dr. Don Miller
type operation, anymore than anyone else.  Comparing this decision, a
decision that we all knew for years was eventually coming, to those is
hyperbole that goes way over the top.

Your outrage and point that you vehemently disagree with the decision, even
though you haven't heard the reasoning behind it yet, is duly noted.  

Now why don't we wait and see what the reasoning is before you tar and
feather everyone who disagrees with you?

73

-Original Message-
From: kf...@njdxa.org [mailto:kf...@njdxa.org] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:00 PM
To: DX-NEWS@njdxa.org
Subject: [DX-NEWS] Unbelievable!


The DXCC Desk have chosen to thumb their noses at the DXCC rules
and announced four (4) "new ones" effective 10/10/10.  See:
 


Since the rules no longer seem to apply, what will be the next
"Baldwin's Reef"?  Will we see more out of country operations
like those of Romeo and Don Miller?

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 10/12/2010 3:07 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
> Well, it's official, the Department of State has only listed
> St. Maarten and Curacao as "Dependencies and Areas of Special
> Sovereignty."
>
> Since the separation between Bonaire and Saba is less than the
> required 800 km when calculated using the more accurate WGS84
> standard, the BES Islands *should* qualify as a *one* entity.
> The "bed has been made" ... if ARRL follow the rules, there
> will be *three* "new ones." We'll see how important the rules
> are.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>


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[DX-NEWS] Ohio/Penn DX Special Bulletin #980.1

[Tedd Mirgliotta (KB8NW)]

SB DX @ WW < KB8NW $OPDX.980.1
Ohio/Penn DX Special Bulletin No. 980.1
The Ohio/Penn DX PacketCluster
DX Special Bulletin No. 980.1
BID: $OPDX.980.1
October 13, 2010
Editor Tedd Mirgliotta, KB8NW
Provided by BARF80.ORG (Cleveland, Ohio)

Thanks to the Northern Ohio Amateur Radio Society, Northern Ohio DX
Association, Ohio/Penn PacketCluster Network, AB5K & the AR TelNet
Clusters Network, Bill Moore/NC1L and Rich Moseson/W2VU for the
following DX information.

DXCC NEWS. Bill Moore, NC1L, ARRL Awards Branch Manager, reports:
"The dissolution of the Netherland Antilles has caused changes to the
 DXCC  List.

 As per the DXCC rules, the two Netherland Antilles DXCC entities will
 be deleted and moved to the Deleted Entities List. Four new entities
 will be added to the DXCC List : (1) Curacao; (2) St. Maarten; (3) Saba
 and St. Eustatius; and (4) Bonaire.  The event date and time for these
 changes will be 0400Z, 10 October, 2010.  Confirmations for these new
 entities will be accepted for credit starting 1 January, 2011.

 Other administrative changes and actions will be announced as they are
 finalized... 73 es DX! Bill Moore NC1L"

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CQ COMMUNICATIONS, INC. NEWS RELEASE. Rich Moseson (W2VU), Editor,
reports on October 13, 2010, for immediate release:
 "Former Netherlands Antilles and CQ Awards and Contests

  With several groups operating this week from the "new" DX entities
created by the breakup of the Netherlands Antilles, questions have arisen
regarding their status for CQ DX awards and contests. This announcement
updates and supplements the preliminary announcement that will appear
in the November issue of CQ magazine, which is already at the printer.

CQ DX Awards
Each of the five islands involved in the change of status retains its
previous PJ callsign prefix (Curacao - PJ2; Bonaire - PJ4; St. Eustatius
- PJ5; Saba - PJ6; and St. Maarten - PJ7). According to CQ DX Awards
Manager Billy Williams, N4UF, the previous entities of the Leeward
Islands (PJ2/PJ4) and Windward Islands (PJ5/PJ6/PJ7) Islands were deleted
as of October 9, 2010. Four new entities - Curacao (PJ2), St. Maarten
(PJ7), Bonaire (PJ4) and Saba/St. Eustatius (PJ5/6) - became active on
October 10, for a net gain of two DX entities. Confirmations for contacts
made with the new entities will be accepted for CQ award credit effective
immediately.

New Multipliers in the CQWW
The country multiplier list for the CQ World Wide DX Contest (SSB weekend
on October 30-31; CW on November 27-28) is based on a combination of the
ARRL's DXCC list and the DARC's WAE (Worked All Europe) list. Since the
ARRL has also made the same changes, deleting the old Windward and Leeward
Islands entities and adding PJ2 (Curacao), PJ4 (Bonaire), PJ5/6 (St.
Eustatius & Saba) and PJ7 (St. Maarten) as four new entities effective
October 10, these "new ones" will each count as separate country multi-
pliers in the CQWW.

There is no need to worry if your own contest logging software is not
updated, according to CQWW Contest Director Bob Cox, K3EST. 'In the end,
the log checking software calculates final tallies anyway,' he notes,
adding that the software 'is very up-to-date and reflects any status
changes.'

DX Marathon Double-Dip
Competitors in the 2010 CQ DX Marathon will have a unique 'double-dip'
opportunity in working the islands of the Netherlands Antilles for
Marathon points. Those who worked any of the islands before 10/10/10,
get credit for either the Windward or Leeward Islands, as appropriate.
Hams who work them again on or after 10/10/10 will get additional credit
for the new entities, providing a maximum of six country credits for
working the islands in 2010."

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[DX-NEWS] [dx-check:1294] New DXCC Entities

[Moore, Bill, NC1L (ARRL Awards Branch)]

[ Reflector : dx-check ]
The dissolution of the Netherland Antilles has caused changes to the
DXCC List.

 

As per the DXCC rules, the two Netherland Antilles DXCC entities will be
deleted and moved to the Deleted Entities List.  Four new entities will
be added to the DXCC List : (1) Curacao; (2) St. Maarten; (3) Saba and
St. Eustatius; and (4) Bonaire.  The event date and time for these
changes will be 0400Z, 10 October, 2010.  Confirmations for these new
entities will be accepted for credit starting 1 January, 2011.

 

Other administrative changes and actions will be announced as they are
finalized.

 

73 es DX!

 

 

Bill Moore NC1L

Awards Branch Manager

ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio(tm)

225 Main Street

Newington, CT 06111

Telephone: (860) 594 0234

Fax: (860) 594-0346

email: d...@arrl.org  

DXCC Web Site: www.arrl.org/awards/dxcc
 

Blog: http://www.arrl.org/awards-blog

 

 



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[DX-NEWS] Unbelievable!

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

The DXCC Desk have chosen to thumb their noses at the DXCC rules
and announced four (4) "new ones" effective 10/10/10.  See:
 



Since the rules no longer seem to apply, what will be the next
"Baldwin's Reef"?  Will we see more out of country operations
like those of Romeo and Don Miller?

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 10/12/2010 3:07 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:


Well, it's official, the Department of State has only listed
St. Maarten and Curacao as "Dependencies and Areas of Special
Sovereignty."

Since the separation between Bonaire and Saba is less than the
required 800 km when calculated using the more accurate WGS84
standard, the BES Islands *should* qualify as a *one* entity.
The "bed has been made" ... if ARRL follow the rules, there
will be *three* "new ones." We'll see how important the rules
are.

73,

... Joe, W4TV





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[DX-NEWS] Dissolution of Netherlands Antilles Creates Four New DXCC Entities

[Jim Reisert AD1C]

http://www.arrl.org/news/dissolution-of-netherlands-antilles-creates-four-new-dxcc-entities

10/13/2010

The dissolution of the Netherland Antilles has caused changes to the
DXCC List. As per the DXCC rules, the two Netherland Antilles DXCC
entities will be deleted and moved to the Deleted Entities List. Four
new entities will be added to the DXCC List: (1) Curaçao; (2) Sint
Maarten; (3) Saba and St Eustatius, and (4) Bonaire. The event date
and time for these changes will be 0400 UTC, October, 10 2010.
Confirmations for these new entities will be accepted for credit
starting January 1, 2011. Other administrative changes and actions
will be announced as they are finalized.


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