Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-12 Thread Dave Perry, N4QS 
Yes, Rick is right. You just open up TQSL Cert and make a couple of clicks
with the mouse.  Here are the instructions right out of the Lotw website: 

Requesting A Signed Certificate

Once you have a certificate for your primary callsign you may have old calls
or secondary calls which you want to upload log data to LoTW.  All
subordinate calls will have a signed certificate.  By having certificates
signed by the primary call certificate all of your QSO data will be kept in
one account.

Use this procedure for appended calls such as W1AW/m, W1AW/p, KP2/W1AW, etc

Here is what you do:
 
1.Open TQSL CERT 
2.In the menu bar select FILE - NEW CERT REQUEST 
3.Request a new certificate for your old call or secondary call.  

.DO NOT REQUEST SIGNED CERTIFICATES FOR PRIMARY CLUB CALLS.  Club calls
cannot be combined with personal accounts.  Please see the section about
club callsigns

Beginning Date
.Be sure to use the correct BEGIN when this call was issued to you.  If
you are not certain about this date then use the date of the earliest entry
in your log when you operated with this callsign.

.DO NOT use the default date of 1945-11-01.  Using the default date
could cause you to upload QSOs that do not belong to this call when you used
it.   


Ending Date
.Enter the ending date when you retired this callsign.  If you are not
certain about this date then use the date of the last entry in your log when
you operated with this callsign.

.If the call is still current then leave the end date open.

Not much to it!

Dave, N4QS



-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of R.T.Liddy
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 8:45 PM
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

In 2012 alone, I operated portable from 29 different locations (Grid
Squares)
 in the US & Canada. It would be easy to get signed up for LOTW for each and
every one of these? Maybe I underestimate the process?
 
Bob K8BL

--- On Mon, 12/10/12, Art - W6KY  wrote:


From: Art - W6KY 
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
To: "Joe Subich, W4TV" , dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 9:21 PM



Agreed. Signing up for multiple portable operations is no big deal.

But, each non-USA station must send a copy of his/her operating license plus
a copy of a government issued ID such as drivers license, passport to this
place in Newington. If I asked my local commissar in Blockavia if I should
do this, he would probably have me locked up for being so stupid... I am
certainly not going to send copies of my drivers license / passport to a
foreign country, thru the 'mail' to get an award with the certainty my ID
will be stolen...  So,I don't think it's lazy, just common sense...
It's bad enough sending Green Stamps that never arrive...

73, Art  W6KY
www.w6ky.com

From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" 
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 5:19:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...


> and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable operations.

There is absolutely no issue of singing a portable operation once you have
the initial certificate.  It takes less than one business day unless the
operation is from a location that has specific access and licensing
requirements.  Even then, it's no more difficult than sending the same
documentation to ARRL that would be needed to be accepted for DXCC
(typically copy of license and landing permit).

Anyone who complains about the sign-up process is too lazy to send copies of
license and ID (equivalent to ham ticket and drivers
license) with a valid mailing address and wait for the password to be mailed
to the address on the ID.

In many cases the process can be short circuited by providing the
documentation in person at one of the many international conventions
ARRL/DXCC/LotW staff attend on a regular basis.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 12/10/2012 7:54 PM, R.T.Liddy wrote:
> There needs to be a way for getting on LOTW to be made a lot simpler, 
> especially for remote DX. The entire procedure should be able to be 
> done on-line. I've seen a number of stations on QRZ.com making 
> comments about the complexity of LOTW and the difficulty of signing up 
> their multiple portable operations.
>
> Bob K8BL
>
> --- On Mon, 12/10/12, Art - W6KY  wrote:
>
>
> From: Art - W6KY 
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
> To: "N3SL" , DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 7:35 PM
>
>
> Note:  All award submissions are fast because dollars are 
> includedSimple... My DX Challenge was approved in hours! Somehow 
> anything with money attached spits out first!!
> Maybe, try attaching a Green Stamp to your LOTW submiss

Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-11 Thread Rich Kloidt 
I am not too sure just because Green Stamps are attached to submissions
speeds up the process.
I submitted my first ONLINE DXCC log on 1 Nov 2012. Pre paid with my credit
card and just checked its status yesterday. 
I found It listed in the huge listing with the rest of the world wide
submissions. Not sure when it will be processed because in that list,
everyone is in there alphabetically by call sign.
Just because you can submit your DXCC log online, like LOTW, doesn't seem to
speed things up. 

73, Rich N1RK
   

-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Art - W6KY
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 7:35 PM
To: N3SL; DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

Note:  All award submissions are fast because dollars are
includedSimple... My DX Challenge was approved in hours! Somehow
anything with money attached spits out first!!
Maybe, try attaching a Green Stamp to your LOTW submission!

LOTW is still better than surface mail unless the DX isn't on LOTW due to
the insane sign up procedure..Try sitting in your Yurt in Mongolia waiting
for your 'postcard' from LOTW to show up!

73, Art  W6KY
www.w6ky.com

 .
Male deer have buck teeth.


From: N3SL 
To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 1:47:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

Not sure how "current" their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log uploaded
on 12/1 has yet to be processed.

But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast.  Submitted
my "annual" update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49.

So some parts are working well


*Steve, N3SL*
Sioux City, IA
CQ4 ITU7 EN12



On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:

>
> > Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago.
>
> Agreed - 8 days 14 hours!  At the current rate of growth the delay 
> will be 9 days before tomorrow.  Here are the latest numbers I have:
>
> Upload Time   Time Processed  Elapsed Time
> ==**=
> 2012/11/23  18:002012/11/27  00:433  06:43:34
> 2012/11/28  22:322012/12/05  02:086  03:35:10
> 2012/11/29  18:382012/12/06  05:106  10:32:20
> 2012/11/30  00:582012/12/06  18:246  17:26:26
> 2012/11/30  17:042012/12/07  17:287  00:24:16
> 2012/12/01  08:202012/12/08  19:097  10:49:15
> 2012/12/01  12:302012/12/09  01:107  12:40:49
> 2012/12/02  05:002012/12/10  19:318  14:31:29
>
> The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2 there 
> were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed and LotW has 
> been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per minute or about 
> 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information on the home page.
>
> If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially.
> The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to be 
> processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current rate of 
> growth in the backlog.  Based on the processing time for files 
> uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25 million unprocessed 
> QSOs in the queue at that time - and that was 48 hours *after* the 
> deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs.
> With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could hold 
> as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is unlikely)!
>
> I know the folks in Newington are saying "trust us," but their 
> performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* - 
> particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on the 
> size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult.
>
> 73,
>
>... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote:
>
>> Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick
>>
> Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just 
> a few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up 
> with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine...
>
>>
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Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-10 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV 


> You can use your US certificate to apply for a Canadian one (which
> will be issued in less than a day in most cases), then you can create
> locations anywhere in Canada where you've operated.

And if you happen to sign W1ABC/R (for "Rover") or W9ZYX/0 and want to
use that with LotW you simply use your US certificate to apply for
another with the "self-assigned modifier".  Again, the additional
certificate will generally be issued in one business day (or less).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 12/10/2012 9:52 PM, Rick Murphy wrote:

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:45 PM, R.T.Liddy  wrote:

In 2012 alone, I operated portable from 29 different locations (Grid Squares)
  in the US & Canada. It would be easy to get signed up for LOTW for each
and every one of these? Maybe I underestimate the process?


Yes, it's trivial. Once you have a US certificate, you just create
locations for each US-based grid square you operate from. No sign-up
required.
You can use your US certificate to apply for a Canadian one (which
will be issued in less than a day in most cases), then you can create
locations anywhere in Canada where you've operated.

Once you've gotten through the initial sign-up hurdle, additional
locations/entities/etc. are pretty easy. (It's only the rare ones
where this is a problem. Applying for a SV/A certificate will likely
be held up until you can present a license.)
73,
 -Rick


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Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-10 Thread Rick Murphy 
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:45 PM, R.T.Liddy  wrote:
> In 2012 alone, I operated portable from 29 different locations (Grid Squares)
>  in the US & Canada. It would be easy to get signed up for LOTW for each
> and every one of these? Maybe I underestimate the process?

Yes, it's trivial. Once you have a US certificate, you just create
locations for each US-based grid square you operate from. No sign-up
required.
You can use your US certificate to apply for a Canadian one (which
will be issued in less than a day in most cases), then you can create
locations anywhere in Canada where you've operated.

Once you've gotten through the initial sign-up hurdle, additional
locations/entities/etc. are pretty easy. (It's only the rare ones
where this is a problem. Applying for a SV/A certificate will likely
be held up until you can present a license.)
73,
-Rick
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Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-10 Thread R.T.Liddy 
In 2012 alone, I operated portable from 29 different locations (Grid Squares)
 in the US & Canada. It would be easy to get signed up for LOTW for each
and every one of these? Maybe I underestimate the process?
 
Bob K8BL

--- On Mon, 12/10/12, Art - W6KY  wrote:


From: Art - W6KY 
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
To: "Joe Subich, W4TV" , dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 9:21 PM



Agreed. Signing up for multiple portable operations is no big deal.

But, each non-USA station must send a copy of his/her operating
license plus a copy of a government issued ID such as drivers
license, passport to this place in Newington. If I asked my local
commissar in Blockavia if I should do this, he would probably
have me locked up for being so stupid... I am certainly not going
to send copies of my drivers license / passport to a foreign
country, thru the 'mail' to get an award with the certainty my 
ID will be stolen...  So,I don't think it's lazy, just common sense...
It's bad enough sending Green Stamps that never arrive...

73, Art  W6KY
www.w6ky.com

From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" 
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 5:19:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...


> and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable operations.

There is absolutely no issue of singing a portable operation once you
have the initial certificate.  It takes less than one business day
unless the operation is from a location that has specific access and
licensing requirements.  Even then, it's no more difficult than sending
the same documentation to ARRL that would be needed to be accepted for
DXCC (typically copy of license and landing permit).

Anyone who complains about the sign-up process is too lazy to send
copies of license and ID (equivalent to ham ticket and drivers
license) with a valid mailing address and wait for the password to
be mailed to the address on the ID.

In many cases the process can be short circuited by providing the
documentation in person at one of the many international conventions
ARRL/DXCC/LotW staff attend on a regular basis.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 12/10/2012 7:54 PM, R.T.Liddy wrote:
> There needs to be a way for getting on LOTW to be made a lot
> simpler, especially for remote DX. The entire procedure should
> be able to be done on-line. I've seen a number of stations on
> QRZ.com making comments about the complexity of LOTW
> and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable operations.
>
> Bob K8BL
>
> --- On Mon, 12/10/12, Art - W6KY  wrote:
>
>
> From: Art - W6KY 
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
> To: "N3SL" , DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 7:35 PM
>
>
> Note:  All award submissions are fast because
> dollars are includedSimple... My DX
> Challenge was approved in hours! Somehow
> anything with money attached spits out first!!
> Maybe, try attaching a Green Stamp to your
> LOTW submission!
>
> LOTW is still better than surface mail unless
> the DX isn't on LOTW due to the insane sign up
> procedure..Try sitting in your Yurt in Mongolia
> waiting for your 'postcard' from LOTW to show up!
>
> 73, Art  W6KY
> www.w6ky.com
>
> .........
> Male deer have buck teeth.
>
> 
> From: N3SL 
> To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 1:47:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
>
> Not sure how "current" their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log
> uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed.
>
> But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast.  Submitted
> my "annual" update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49.
>
> So some parts are working well
>
>
> *Steve, N3SL*
> Sioux City, IA
> CQ4 ITU7 EN12
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:
>
>>
>>> Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago.
>>
>> Agreed - 8 days 14 hours!  At the current rate of growth the
>> delay will be 9 days before tomorrow.  Here are the latest
>> numbers I have:
>>
>> Upload Time           Time Processed      Elapsed Time
>> ==**=
>> 2012/11/23  18:00    2012/11/27  00:43    3  06:43:34
>> 2012/11/28  22:32    2012/12/05  02:08    6  03:35:10
>> 2012/11/29  18:38    2012/12/06  05:10    6  10:32:20
>> 2012/11/30  00:58    2012/12/06  18:24    6  17:26:26
>> 2012/11/30  17:04    2012/12/07  17:28    7  00:24:16
>> 2012/12/01  08:20    2012/12/08  19:09   

Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-10 Thread Art - W6KY 

Agreed. Signing up for multiple portable operations is no big deal.

But, each non-USA station must send a copy of his/her operating
license plus a copy of a government issued ID such as drivers
license, passport to this place in Newington. If I asked my local
commissar in Blockavia if I should do this, he would probably
have me locked up for being so stupid... I am certainly not going
to send copies of my drivers license / passport to a foreign
country, thru the 'mail' to get an award with the certainty my 
ID will be stolen...  So,I don't think it's lazy, just common sense...
It's bad enough sending Green Stamps that never arrive...

73, Art  W6KY
www.w6ky.com

From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" 
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 5:19:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...


> and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable operations.

There is absolutely no issue of singing a portable operation once you
have the initial certificate.  It takes less than one business day
unless the operation is from a location that has specific access and
licensing requirements.  Even then, it's no more difficult than sending
the same documentation to ARRL that would be needed to be accepted for
DXCC (typically copy of license and landing permit).

Anyone who complains about the sign-up process is too lazy to send
copies of license and ID (equivalent to ham ticket and drivers
license) with a valid mailing address and wait for the password to
be mailed to the address on the ID.

In many cases the process can be short circuited by providing the
documentation in person at one of the many international conventions
ARRL/DXCC/LotW staff attend on a regular basis.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 12/10/2012 7:54 PM, R.T.Liddy wrote:
> There needs to be a way for getting on LOTW to be made a lot
> simpler, especially for remote DX. The entire procedure should
> be able to be done on-line. I've seen a number of stations on
> QRZ.com making comments about the complexity of LOTW
> and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable operations.
>
> Bob K8BL
>
> --- On Mon, 12/10/12, Art - W6KY  wrote:
>
>
> From: Art - W6KY 
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
> To: "N3SL" , DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 7:35 PM
>
>
> Note:  All award submissions are fast because
> dollars are includedSimple... My DX
> Challenge was approved in hours! Somehow
> anything with money attached spits out first!!
> Maybe, try attaching a Green Stamp to your
> LOTW submission!
>
> LOTW is still better than surface mail unless
> the DX isn't on LOTW due to the insane sign up
> procedure..Try sitting in your Yurt in Mongolia
> waiting for your 'postcard' from LOTW to show up!
>
> 73, Art  W6KY
> www.w6ky.com
>
> .
> Male deer have buck teeth.
>
> 
> From: N3SL 
> To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 1:47:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
>
> Not sure how "current" their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log
> uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed.
>
> But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast.  Submitted
> my "annual" update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49.
>
> So some parts are working well
>
>
> *Steve, N3SL*
> Sioux City, IA
> CQ4 ITU7 EN12
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:
>
>>
>>> Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago.
>>
>> Agreed - 8 days 14 hours!  At the current rate of growth the
>> delay will be 9 days before tomorrow.  Here are the latest
>> numbers I have:
>>
>> Upload Time   Time Processed  Elapsed Time
>> ==**=
>> 2012/11/23  18:002012/11/27  00:433  06:43:34
>> 2012/11/28  22:322012/12/05  02:086  03:35:10
>> 2012/11/29  18:382012/12/06  05:106  10:32:20
>> 2012/11/30  00:582012/12/06  18:246  17:26:26
>> 2012/11/30  17:042012/12/07  17:287  00:24:16
>> 2012/12/01  08:202012/12/08  19:097  10:49:15
>> 2012/12/01  12:302012/12/09  01:107  12:40:49
>> 2012/12/02  05:002012/12/10  19:318  14:31:29
>>
>> The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2
>> there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed
>> and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per
>> minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information
>> on the

Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-10 Thread Dave Perry, N4QS 
I used Lotw for my operation in Belize.  It was very easy to sign up.  I
simply scanned a copy of my license from Belize and emailed it to the DXCC
desk at the ARRL.  Everything was approved before I left.  It couldn't have
been much easier.  I plan to do the same thing when I go to Grand Cayman
this coming February.

Dave, N4QS

-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of R.T.Liddy
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 6:54 PM
To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

There needs to be a way for getting on LOTW to be made a lot simpler,
especially for remote DX. The entire procedure should be able to be done
on-line. I've seen a number of stations on QRZ.com making comments about the
complexity of LOTW and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable
operations.
 
Bob K8BL

--- On Mon, 12/10/12, Art - W6KY  wrote:


From: Art - W6KY 
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
To: "N3SL" , DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 7:35 PM


Note:  All award submissions are fast because dollars are
includedSimple... My DX Challenge was approved in hours! Somehow
anything with money attached spits out first!!
Maybe, try attaching a Green Stamp to your LOTW submission!

LOTW is still better than surface mail unless the DX isn't on LOTW due to
the insane sign up procedure..Try sitting in your Yurt in Mongolia waiting
for your 'postcard' from LOTW to show up!

73, Art  W6KY
www.w6ky.com

.
Male deer have buck teeth.


From: N3SL 
To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 1:47:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

Not sure how "current" their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log uploaded
on 12/1 has yet to be processed.

But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast.  Submitted
my "annual" update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49.

So some parts are working well


*Steve, N3SL*
Sioux City, IA
CQ4 ITU7 EN12



On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:

>
> > Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago.
>
> Agreed - 8 days 14 hours!  At the current rate of growth the delay 
> will be 9 days before tomorrow.  Here are the latest numbers I have:
>
> Upload Time           Time Processed      Elapsed Time 
> ==**=
> 2012/11/23  18:00    2012/11/27  00:43    3  06:43:34
> 2012/11/28  22:32    2012/12/05  02:08    6  03:35:10
> 2012/11/29  18:38    2012/12/06  05:10    6  10:32:20
> 2012/11/30  00:58    2012/12/06  18:24    6  17:26:26
> 2012/11/30  17:04    2012/12/07  17:28    7  00:24:16
> 2012/12/01  08:20    2012/12/08  19:09    7  10:49:15
> 2012/12/01  12:30    2012/12/09  01:10    7  12:40:49
> 2012/12/02  05:00    2012/12/10  19:31    8  14:31:29
>
> The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2 there 
> were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed and LotW has 
> been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per minute or about 
> 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information on the home page.
>
> If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially.
> The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to be 
> processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current rate of 
> growth in the backlog.  Based on the processing time for files 
> uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25 million unprocessed 
> QSOs in the queue at that time - and that was 48 hours *after* the 
> deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs.
> With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could hold 
> as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is unlikely)!
>
> I know the folks in Newington are saying "trust us," but their 
> performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* - 
> particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on the 
> size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult.
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote:
>
>> Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick
>>
> Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just 
> a few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up 
> with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine...
>
>>
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Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-10 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV 


> and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable operations.

There is absolutely no issue of singing a portable operation once you
have the initial certificate.  It takes less than one business day
unless the operation is from a location that has specific access and
licensing requirements.  Even then, it's no more difficult than sending
the same documentation to ARRL that would be needed to be accepted for
DXCC (typically copy of license and landing permit).

Anyone who complains about the sign-up process is too lazy to send
copies of license and ID (equivalent to ham ticket and drivers
license) with a valid mailing address and wait for the password to
be mailed to the address on the ID.

In many cases the process can be short circuited by providing the
documentation in person at one of the many international conventions
ARRL/DXCC/LotW staff attend on a regular basis.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 12/10/2012 7:54 PM, R.T.Liddy wrote:

There needs to be a way for getting on LOTW to be made a lot
simpler, especially for remote DX. The entire procedure should
be able to be done on-line. I've seen a number of stations on
QRZ.com making comments about the complexity of LOTW
and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable operations.

Bob K8BL

--- On Mon, 12/10/12, Art - W6KY  wrote:


From: Art - W6KY 
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
To: "N3SL" , DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 7:35 PM


Note:  All award submissions are fast because
dollars are includedSimple... My DX
Challenge was approved in hours! Somehow
anything with money attached spits out first!!
Maybe, try attaching a Green Stamp to your
LOTW submission!

LOTW is still better than surface mail unless
the DX isn't on LOTW due to the insane sign up
procedure..Try sitting in your Yurt in Mongolia
waiting for your 'postcard' from LOTW to show up!

73, Art  W6KY
www.w6ky.com

.
Male deer have buck teeth.


From: N3SL 
To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 1:47:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

Not sure how "current" their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log
uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed.

But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast.  Submitted
my "annual" update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49.

So some parts are working well


*Steve, N3SL*
Sioux City, IA
CQ4 ITU7 EN12



On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:




Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago.


Agreed - 8 days 14 hours!  At the current rate of growth the
delay will be 9 days before tomorrow.  Here are the latest
numbers I have:

Upload Time   Time Processed  Elapsed Time
==**=
2012/11/23  18:002012/11/27  00:433  06:43:34
2012/11/28  22:322012/12/05  02:086  03:35:10
2012/11/29  18:382012/12/06  05:106  10:32:20
2012/11/30  00:582012/12/06  18:246  17:26:26
2012/11/30  17:042012/12/07  17:287  00:24:16
2012/12/01  08:202012/12/08  19:097  10:49:15
2012/12/01  12:302012/12/09  01:107  12:40:49
2012/12/02  05:002012/12/10  19:318  14:31:29

The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2
there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed
and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per
minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information
on the home page.

If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially.
The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to
be processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current
rate of growth in the backlog.  Based on the processing time
for files uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25
million unprocessed QSOs in the queue at that time - and that
was 48 hours *after* the deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs.
With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could
hold as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is
unlikely)!

I know the folks in Newington are saying "trust us," but their
performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* -
particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on
the size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult.

73,

 ... Joe, W4TV


On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote:


Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick


Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a
few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up
with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine...



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Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-10 Thread R.T.Liddy 
There needs to be a way for getting on LOTW to be made a lot
simpler, especially for remote DX. The entire procedure should
be able to be done on-line. I've seen a number of stations on
QRZ.com making comments about the complexity of LOTW
and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable operations.
 
Bob K8BL

--- On Mon, 12/10/12, Art - W6KY  wrote:


From: Art - W6KY 
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
To: "N3SL" , DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 7:35 PM


Note:  All award submissions are fast because
dollars are includedSimple... My DX
Challenge was approved in hours! Somehow
anything with money attached spits out first!!
Maybe, try attaching a Green Stamp to your
LOTW submission!

LOTW is still better than surface mail unless
the DX isn't on LOTW due to the insane sign up
procedure..Try sitting in your Yurt in Mongolia
waiting for your 'postcard' from LOTW to show up!

73, Art  W6KY
www.w6ky.com

.
Male deer have buck teeth.


From: N3SL 
To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 1:47:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

Not sure how "current" their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log
uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed.

But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast.  Submitted
my "annual" update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49.

So some parts are working well


*Steve, N3SL*
Sioux City, IA
CQ4 ITU7 EN12



On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:

>
> > Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago.
>
> Agreed - 8 days 14 hours!  At the current rate of growth the
> delay will be 9 days before tomorrow.  Here are the latest
> numbers I have:
>
> Upload Time           Time Processed      Elapsed Time
> ==**=
> 2012/11/23  18:00    2012/11/27  00:43    3  06:43:34
> 2012/11/28  22:32    2012/12/05  02:08    6  03:35:10
> 2012/11/29  18:38    2012/12/06  05:10    6  10:32:20
> 2012/11/30  00:58    2012/12/06  18:24    6  17:26:26
> 2012/11/30  17:04    2012/12/07  17:28    7  00:24:16
> 2012/12/01  08:20    2012/12/08  19:09    7  10:49:15
> 2012/12/01  12:30    2012/12/09  01:10    7  12:40:49
> 2012/12/02  05:00    2012/12/10  19:31    8  14:31:29
>
> The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2
> there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed
> and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per
> minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information
> on the home page.
>
> If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially.
> The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to
> be processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current
> rate of growth in the backlog.  Based on the processing time
> for files uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25
> million unprocessed QSOs in the queue at that time - and that
> was 48 hours *after* the deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs.
> With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could
> hold as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is
> unlikely)!
>
> I know the folks in Newington are saying "trust us," but their
> performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* -
> particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on
> the size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult.
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote:
>
>> Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick
>>
> Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a
> few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up
> with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine...
>
>>
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Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-10 Thread Art - W6KY 
Note:  All award submissions are fast because
dollars are includedSimple... My DX
Challenge was approved in hours! Somehow
anything with money attached spits out first!!
Maybe, try attaching a Green Stamp to your
LOTW submission!

LOTW is still better than surface mail unless
the DX isn't on LOTW due to the insane sign up
procedure..Try sitting in your Yurt in Mongolia
waiting for your 'postcard' from LOTW to show up!

73, Art  W6KY
www.w6ky.com

 .
Male deer have buck teeth.


From: N3SL 
To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 1:47:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

Not sure how "current" their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log
uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed.

But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast.  Submitted
my "annual" update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49.

So some parts are working well


*Steve, N3SL*
Sioux City, IA
CQ4 ITU7 EN12



On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:

>
> > Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago.
>
> Agreed - 8 days 14 hours!  At the current rate of growth the
> delay will be 9 days before tomorrow.  Here are the latest
> numbers I have:
>
> Upload Time   Time Processed  Elapsed Time
> ==**=
> 2012/11/23  18:002012/11/27  00:433  06:43:34
> 2012/11/28  22:322012/12/05  02:086  03:35:10
> 2012/11/29  18:382012/12/06  05:106  10:32:20
> 2012/11/30  00:582012/12/06  18:246  17:26:26
> 2012/11/30  17:042012/12/07  17:287  00:24:16
> 2012/12/01  08:202012/12/08  19:097  10:49:15
> 2012/12/01  12:302012/12/09  01:107  12:40:49
> 2012/12/02  05:002012/12/10  19:318  14:31:29
>
> The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2
> there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed
> and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per
> minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information
> on the home page.
>
> If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially.
> The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to
> be processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current
> rate of growth in the backlog.  Based on the processing time
> for files uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25
> million unprocessed QSOs in the queue at that time - and that
> was 48 hours *after* the deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs.
> With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could
> hold as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is
> unlikely)!
>
> I know the folks in Newington are saying "trust us," but their
> performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* -
> particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on
> the size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult.
>
> 73,
>
>... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote:
>
>> Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick
>>
> Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a
> few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up
> with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine...
>
>>
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Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-10 Thread Ken G Kopp 
Hi Ed!

Probably because a -very- high percentage of
DX4WIN users use LOTW and have a high
level of interest in LOTW 

73!

Ken Kopp - K0PP

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Ed Stratton  wrote:
> Why is LOTW backlog a thread on DX4WIN?  Isn't there a LOTW discussion 
> board...
>
>
> 73's
> Ed , W1ZZ
> w...@ymail.com
>
>
>
> 
>  From: N3SL 
> To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 4:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
>
> Not sure how "current" their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log
> uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed.
>
> But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast.  Submitted
> my "annual" update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49.
>
> So some parts are working well
>
>
> *Steve, N3SL*
> Sioux City, IA
> CQ4 ITU7 EN12
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:
>
>>
>> > Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago.
>>
>> Agreed - 8 days 14 hours!  At the current rate of growth the
>> delay will be 9 days before tomorrow.  Here are the latest
>> numbers I have:
>>
>> Upload Time   Time Processed  Elapsed Time
>> ==**=
>> 2012/11/23  18:002012/11/27  00:433  06:43:34
>> 2012/11/28  22:322012/12/05  02:086  03:35:10
>> 2012/11/29  18:382012/12/06  05:106  10:32:20
>> 2012/11/30  00:582012/12/06  18:246  17:26:26
>> 2012/11/30  17:042012/12/07  17:287  00:24:16
>> 2012/12/01  08:202012/12/08  19:097  10:49:15
>> 2012/12/01  12:302012/12/09  01:107  12:40:49
>> 2012/12/02  05:002012/12/10  19:318  14:31:29
>>
>> The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2
>> there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed
>> and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per
>> minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information
>> on the home page.
>>
>> If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially.
>> The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to
>> be processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current
>> rate of growth in the backlog.  Based on the processing time
>> for files uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25
>> million unprocessed QSOs in the queue at that time - and that
>> was 48 hours *after* the deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs.
>> With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could
>> hold as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is
>> unlikely)!
>>
>> I know the folks in Newington are saying "trust us," but their
>> performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* -
>> particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on
>> the size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>> On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote:
>>
>>> Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick
>>>
>> Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a
>> few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up
>> with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine...
>>
>>>
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Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-10 Thread Ed Stratton 
Why is LOTW backlog a thread on DX4WIN?  Isn't there a LOTW discussion board...

 
73's
Ed , W1ZZ
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 From: N3SL 
To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
 
Not sure how "current" their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log
uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed.

But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast.  Submitted
my "annual" update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49.

So some parts are working well


*Steve, N3SL*
Sioux City, IA
CQ4 ITU7 EN12



On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:

>
> > Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago.
>
> Agreed - 8 days 14 hours!  At the current rate of growth the
> delay will be 9 days before tomorrow.  Here are the latest
> numbers I have:
>
> Upload Time           Time Processed      Elapsed Time
> ==**=
> 2012/11/23  18:00    2012/11/27  00:43    3  06:43:34
> 2012/11/28  22:32    2012/12/05  02:08    6  03:35:10
> 2012/11/29  18:38    2012/12/06  05:10    6  10:32:20
> 2012/11/30  00:58    2012/12/06  18:24    6  17:26:26
> 2012/11/30  17:04    2012/12/07  17:28    7  00:24:16
> 2012/12/01  08:20    2012/12/08  19:09    7  10:49:15
> 2012/12/01  12:30    2012/12/09  01:10    7  12:40:49
> 2012/12/02  05:00    2012/12/10  19:31    8  14:31:29
>
> The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2
> there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed
> and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per
> minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information
> on the home page.
>
> If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially.
> The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to
> be processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current
> rate of growth in the backlog.  Based on the processing time
> for files uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25
> million unprocessed QSOs in the queue at that time - and that
> was 48 hours *after* the deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs.
> With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could
> hold as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is
> unlikely)!
>
> I know the folks in Newington are saying "trust us," but their
> performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* -
> particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on
> the size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult.
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote:
>
>> Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick
>>
> Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a
> few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up
> with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine...
>
>>
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Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-10 Thread N3SL 
Not sure how "current" their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log
uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed.

But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast.  Submitted
my "annual" update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49.

So some parts are working well


 *Steve, N3SL*
Sioux City, IA
CQ4 ITU7 EN12



On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:

>
> > Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago.
>
> Agreed - 8 days 14 hours!  At the current rate of growth the
> delay will be 9 days before tomorrow.  Here are the latest
> numbers I have:
>
> Upload Time   Time Processed  Elapsed Time
> ==**=
> 2012/11/23  18:002012/11/27  00:433  06:43:34
> 2012/11/28  22:322012/12/05  02:086  03:35:10
> 2012/11/29  18:382012/12/06  05:106  10:32:20
> 2012/11/30  00:582012/12/06  18:246  17:26:26
> 2012/11/30  17:042012/12/07  17:287  00:24:16
> 2012/12/01  08:202012/12/08  19:097  10:49:15
> 2012/12/01  12:302012/12/09  01:107  12:40:49
> 2012/12/02  05:002012/12/10  19:318  14:31:29
>
> The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2
> there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed
> and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per
> minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information
> on the home page.
>
> If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially.
> The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to
> be processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current
> rate of growth in the backlog.  Based on the processing time
> for files uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25
> million unprocessed QSOs in the queue at that time - and that
> was 48 hours *after* the deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs.
> With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could
> hold as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is
> unlikely)!
>
> I know the folks in Newington are saying "trust us," but their
> performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* -
> particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on
> the size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult.
>
> 73,
>
>... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote:
>
>> Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick
>>
> Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a
> few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up
> with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine...
>
>>
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Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-10 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV 


> Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago.

Agreed - 8 days 14 hours!  At the current rate of growth the
delay will be 9 days before tomorrow.  Here are the latest
numbers I have:

Upload Time   Time Processed  Elapsed Time
===
2012/11/23  18:002012/11/27  00:433  06:43:34
2012/11/28  22:322012/12/05  02:086  03:35:10
2012/11/29  18:382012/12/06  05:106  10:32:20
2012/11/30  00:582012/12/06  18:246  17:26:26
2012/11/30  17:042012/12/07  17:287  00:24:16
2012/12/01  08:202012/12/08  19:097  10:49:15
2012/12/01  12:302012/12/09  01:107  12:40:49
2012/12/02  05:002012/12/10  19:318  14:31:29

The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2
there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed
and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per
minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information
on the home page.

If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially.
The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to
be processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current
rate of growth in the backlog.  Based on the processing time
for files uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25
million unprocessed QSOs in the queue at that time - and that
was 48 hours *after* the deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs.
With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could
hold as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is
unlikely)!

I know the folks in Newington are saying "trust us," but their
performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* -
particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on
the size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote:

Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick

Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a
few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up
with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine...



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