Re: [Dx4win] Merging country files
Hi Jim, The problem is that the ARRL didn't archive the call sign of the station worked. It simply consists of a matrix of country and band/mode data. So these dummy calls usually contain the country prefix, .e.g. 3ADUM. I handled 3D2/R and 3D2/C by creating 3D2DUM0 & 3D2DUM1 for each respectively. Each maps to the appropriate country. Confused yet? I have to do all this extra work all because I didn't have off-site backup. I'll be looking into Clublog as recommended by John, K9EL. 73 de K2WK - Walt - Virginia > -Original Message- > From: Jim Reisert AD1C [mailto:jjreis...@alum.mit.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 9:30 AM > To: Walt Kornienko > Cc: DX4WIN Reflector > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Merging country files > > On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 4:15 AM, Walt Kornienko K2WK wrote: > > > Due to a data loss long ago, I need to manually merge my country files > > to get the proper mappings. > > Hi Walt, > > Send me the errors/changes and I'll add them to the next version of > the country file, assuming they make sense. Note that the country > file generally has the callsign that the DX station sent. For > example, if you log the call as VK0/VK1ABC but the DX station actually > sent VK1ABC/0, usually confirmed via QSL card, then the latter > callsign is the one that is the country file and the one that should > be in your log. > > 73 - Jim AD1C > > -- > Jim Reisert AD1C, , http://www.ad1c.us __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Merging country files
Walt, One recommendation I have for everyone is to periodically upload your entire log (via ADIF) to ClubLog. Even if you never use a single feature in Club Log, it is a great place to store your log. You can download an ADIF of your log at any time. 73, John K9EL On Dec 26, 2017, at 6:35 AM, Walt Kornienko wrote: Hi John, Thanx for the reply. The reason for me keeping my own version of the country file is a somewhat complicated issue. It all started when I lost all my data in a house fire a dozen or so years ago. Since the last submission I made to DXCC was in 1992, I lost the certificates, cards, computer data, and everything after 1992. I had to start all over again. I had to somehow get those confirmed countries into DX4WIN. Not sure what ARRL does now, but back then they didn't archive all QSO data, including the call sign. As for bands and modes they only kept track of the 1st QSO for that country and it's band and mode info. It's virtually impossible to back track, if you will. I created dummy QSO's for those confirmed countries, using a dummy call sign including band and mode data. This all may start to sound confusing, but it seems to work :() ) So, I press on with Version 8 for now. Again, thanx for your interest in this somewhat arcane problem. 73 de K2WK - Walt in VA > -Original Message- > From: John, K9EL [mailto:k...@comcast.net] > Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 5:14 PM > To: 'Walt Kornienko' > Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Merging country files > > I understand that editors are not in place yet for Version 9. Of course, > you could always go back to Version 8 and do the editing. > > I would ask however, why you would want your own country files? I can > assure you that the country files produced by AD1C are the best you can get. > If you go back to Version 8, download his latest country file and manually > put it in your DX4Win Directory. > > If you are having trouble with the updater program, let us know what problem > you are having. I would recommend focusing on solving your updater problem. > Whether you use V8 or V9, using the update feature in DX4Win for an accurate > country data base is the only way to make sure your log is accurate. > > If you are concerned about the differences, export your log using your > country file and then import it with an AD1C file and see where the > differences are. Or export your log file to ADIF and upload to Club Log > where it will go through your log with a fine tooth comb. You will > generally find the Club Log and AD1C databases in perfect harmony. > > > 73, > John K9EL > > -Original Message- > From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win- > boun...@mailman.qth.net] > On Behalf Of Walt Kornienko > Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 5:15 AM > To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Dx4win] Merging country files > > Hey all, > > > > Due to a data loss long ago, I need to manually merge my country files > > to get the proper mappings. The Updater program never worked > > correctly, hence my using the customary manual method of merging > > country files, i.e. saving the "old" file in a temp directory, moving > > the new file into the save directory then merging via the program menu, > > Program/Databases/. I receive the following error: > > > > "Country editor unavailable." > > > > In the new Version 9 it appears that function either has changed, > > isn't working (for me) or it's just not there. > > > > Before I can roll over to the new Version 9, I must first resolve this > issue. > > Any thoughts or suggestions as to how I can perform a merge of the old > > and new country file would be helpful. Thanx for your time and > consideration. > > > > 73 de K2WK - Walt - Gordonsville - Virginia > > __ > > DX4WIN mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net > Message delivered to k...@comcast.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Merging country files
On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 4:15 AM, Walt Kornienko K2WK wrote: > Due to a data loss long ago, I need to manually merge my country files > to get the proper mappings. Hi Walt, Send me the errors/changes and I'll add them to the next version of the country file, assuming they make sense. Note that the country file generally has the callsign that the DX station sent. For example, if you log the call as VK0/VK1ABC but the DX station actually sent VK1ABC/0, usually confirmed via QSL card, then the latter callsign is the one that is the country file and the one that should be in your log. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, , http://www.ad1c.us __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Merging country files
Hi John, Thanx for the reply. The reason for me keeping my own version of the country file is a somewhat complicated issue. It all started when I lost all my data in a house fire a dozen or so years ago. Since the last submission I made to DXCC was in 1992, I lost the certificates, cards, computer data, and everything after 1992. I had to start all over again. I had to somehow get those confirmed countries into DX4WIN. Not sure what ARRL does now, but back then they didn't archive all QSO data, including the call sign. As for bands and modes they only kept track of the 1st QSO for that country and it's band and mode info. It's virtually impossible to back track, if you will. I created dummy QSO's for those confirmed countries, using a dummy call sign including band and mode data. This all may start to sound confusing, but it seems to work :() ) So, I press on with Version 8 for now. Again, thanx for your interest in this somewhat arcane problem. 73 de K2WK - Walt in VA > -Original Message- > From: John, K9EL [mailto:k...@comcast.net] > Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 5:14 PM > To: 'Walt Kornienko' > Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Merging country files > > I understand that editors are not in place yet for Version 9. Of course, > you could always go back to Version 8 and do the editing. > > I would ask however, why you would want your own country files? I can > assure you that the country files produced by AD1C are the best you can get. > If you go back to Version 8, download his latest country file and manually > put it in your DX4Win Directory. > > If you are having trouble with the updater program, let us know what problem > you are having. I would recommend focusing on solving your updater problem. > Whether you use V8 or V9, using the update feature in DX4Win for an accurate > country data base is the only way to make sure your log is accurate. > > If you are concerned about the differences, export your log using your > country file and then import it with an AD1C file and see where the > differences are. Or export your log file to ADIF and upload to Club Log > where it will go through your log with a fine tooth comb. You will > generally find the Club Log and AD1C databases in perfect harmony. > > > 73, > John K9EL > > -Original Message- > From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win- > boun...@mailman.qth.net] > On Behalf Of Walt Kornienko > Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 5:15 AM > To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Dx4win] Merging country files > > Hey all, > > > > Due to a data loss long ago, I need to manually merge my country files > > to get the proper mappings. The Updater program never worked > > correctly, hence my using the customary manual method of merging > > country files, i.e. saving the "old" file in a temp directory, moving > > the new file into the save directory then merging via the program menu, > > Program/Databases/. I receive the following error: > > > > "Country editor unavailable." > > > > In the new Version 9 it appears that function either has changed, > > isn't working (for me) or it's just not there. > > > > Before I can roll over to the new Version 9, I must first resolve this > issue. > > Any thoughts or suggestions as to how I can perform a merge of the old > > and new country file would be helpful. Thanx for your time and > consideration. > > > >73 de K2WK - Walt - Gordonsville - Virginia > > __ > > DX4WIN mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net > Message delivered to k...@comcast.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Dx4win] Merging country files
Hey all, Due to a data loss long ago, I need to manually merge my country files to get the proper mappings. The Updater program never worked correctly, hence my using the customary manual method of merging country files, i.e. saving the "old" file in a temp directory, moving the new file into the save directory then merging via the program menu, Program/Databases/. I receive the following error: "Country editor unavailable." In the new Version 9 it appears that function either has changed, isn't working (for me) or it's just not there. Before I can roll over to the new Version 9, I must first resolve this issue. Any thoughts or suggestions as to how I can perform a merge of the old and new country file would be helpful. Thanx for your time and consideration. 73 de K2WK - Walt - Gordonsville - Virginia __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Dx4win] Merging country files
I did a couple of experiments here to confirm what I thought about merging country files. What that web page says is true: http://www.country-files.com/dx4win/index.htm#Merge If you merge the NEW country file into your OLD country file, the entities will NOT get merged. This means the old PJ2 and PJ7 aren't deleted (really, just means END date is set to 10/10/10), and the new PJ's aren't added. It also means the prefix mappings are not merged, so any PJs you work will be given the old QTH. If you merge your OLD country file into the NEW country file, you get the benefit of the new entities as well as prefix mappings. So all the PJs should work "out of the box". Remember, merging only imports these four items from the old country file: Exception calls IOTAs QSL managers QSL addresses Nothing else is merged. The theory is that this preserves the "user data". IOTAs may have needed merging in the past, but it is not really necessary now, because the RSGB has assigned provisional IOTA reference numbers to all groups that have not yet been activated. I do see one potential problem, but one that should not have happened this time. If you have callsign mapping to one of the old PJ prefixes, say PJ2 (which is now PJ2/D), after the merge, it will still be mapped to PJ2, which is in fact the *new* entity, not the old old one. I'm 99% certain that no one should be affected by this, since the historic list of old PJ calls (mostly from the 1960s) hasn't changed in many revisions. The way to tell if you are affected by this is to search your log (using F8) for both the PJ2 and PJ7 prefixes (i.e. the new one). If you see any QSOs before 10/10/10 with either of those two entities, something is wrong (yes, DX4WIN does allow one to log a QSO with the new entities before 10/10/10). One could argue that the old prefixes (PJ2 and PJ7) should have been left alone, and the new prefixes should have been called something else (like PJ2/C and PJ7/S or something like that). Sorry, that's not the way we've been doing it. Fortunately, the case of a primary prefix (like PJ2 or PJ7) changing from one entity to another is pretty rare. I think the last one was OK changing from Czechoslovakia to Czech Republic (YU is still what's left of Yugoslavia, same entity). So bottom line: if you MUST merge (and it's not the recommended method), you must merge OLD into NEW, which means you must move your old DX4WIN.CTY to a save place, download the new one into your SAVE directory, then merge the old one into it. The other way will NOT get you what you want. 73 - Jim AD1C p.s. the reason I haven't replied to the list today is that I've been busy working PJs (and other stuff). It's been a good couple of days so far, and the weekend isn't over yet! -- Jim Reisert AD1C, , http://www.ad1c.us __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Merging Country files
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:36 AM, William Osborne wrote: > I need to merge my existing country file which is about 2 years old with a > new one. The existing one gives the correct number of countries confirmed > (335) and the new one shows only 329. My question is how do I approach this > process? > > Thanks > Bill K5ZQ http://dx4win.ad1c.us/ Follow the "Country Files" link. If you find errors, let me know so I can correct them. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C/Ø, , http://www.ad1c.us __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Merging Country files
Hi Bill, You probably need to replace the adif.pmp in the import directory also with the latest one from JIM, AD1C is included in his montly releases Guy ON4AOI > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win- > boun...@mailman.qth.net] Namens William Osborne > Verzonden: dinsdag 21 april 2009 17:37 > CC: dx4win@mailman.qth.net > Onderwerp: [Dx4win] Merging Country files > > I need to merge my existing country file which is about 2 years old > with a > new one. The existing one gives the correct number of countries > confirmed > (335) and the new one shows only 329. My question is how do I approach > this > process? > > Thanks > Bill K5ZQ > > > __ > Dx4win mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Dx4win] Merging Country files
I need to merge my existing country file which is about 2 years old with a new one. The existing one gives the correct number of countries confirmed (335) and the new one shows only 329. My question is how do I approach this process? Thanks Bill K5ZQ __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
