[Elecraft] K1 or KX1?
Hello all, Have been thinking about getting my feet wet with building either a K1 or KX1. I see most posts seem to refer to the KX1. Aside from size and portability is there any difference in performance in the two? I can work with either one but would prefer the one with best performance. K2 next- can't find much that beats it. Tnx, Jim/k2hn ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K1 or KX1 ?
Tried to post a what should I get question and it got dumped by the moderator, OOPS, sent from the wrong e-mail address. So I have decided to get the KX1, easier to bring with me to work and on trips. The special prices also helped me decide, So who knows, if I get ridd of my FT100, then I can get a K1 or K2?? We shall see whats nextMust be great radios with the following, Checked out the radio's at the Orlando Hamfest in the past and now is the time to buy. Now I live and New England and have mountains to operate from... Steve KA4NRF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1?
The true correct answer is - both. I have both and find each has it's place. 73 John WA8KNE Jim Murray wrote: Hello all, Have been thinking about getting my feet wet with building either a K1 or KX1. I see most posts seem to refer to the KX1. Aside from size and portability is there any difference in performance in the two? I can work with either one but would prefer the one with best performance. K2 next- can't find much that beats it. Tnx, Jim/k2hn ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1?
I built the K1 first...used it a couple years, sold it, bought a already built KX1. Both are fantastic rigs. I miss my K1 and the 5w output though. I think this fall I will buy another K1 and build it. I will keep the KX1 for a long time, it fits in my shirt pocket...best camping rig I have ever had. 73 - Original Message - From: "Jim Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:29 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1? Hello all, Have been thinking about getting my feet wet with building either a K1 or KX1. I see most posts seem to refer to the KX1. Aside from size and portability is there any difference in performance in the two? I can work with either one but would prefer the one with best performance. K2 next- can't find much that beats it. Tnx, Jim/k2hn ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1?
Just my opinion, not looking for an argument (when I asked this question, it was the many opinions that helped me decide mrore than the arguments over who is more right): I chose just the KX1 because I wanted an easily portable transciever. While the K1 is that too, I liked the more all-in-one-ness of the KX1. I also plan on doing more experimenting in future, which many convinced me would be more suited to the K2 because of more space available in the case and on the boards. But I still liked size and the simplicity of the K1. It was then when I started looking at the K1 and what I wanted it to do, and how much it would cost me to get to where I want with it. The K1 is almost 62% the price of the K2, and the K2 is (according to most who actually own both) so much better of a rig. fully kitted KX1: $502 fully kitted K1 (w/ extra 2-band module): $611 fully kitted QRP/CW K2: $982 I plan on getting a K2 in the future, so why would I want a K1 as well (though many do and will). And now, with the addition of 80m on the KX1, I am sold on it alone. There are many other reasons to like the KX1 more for me as well (DDS and wider VFO range, SW BC RX coverage. Of course, if I ever do get into mobile (car) QRP CW, I will look to the K1 to fill that role. It seems to me that it would suit it so well. David, K3TUE . --- Jim Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all, > Have been thinking about getting my feet wet with building either a K1 or > KX1. I see most posts seem to refer to the KX1. Aside from size and > portability is there any difference in performance in the two? I can work > with either one but would prefer the one with best performance. K2 next- > can't find much that beats it. > Tnx, Jim/k2hn > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1?
simple answer: K1 It goes everywhere, tunes to my portable antenna or wire, I always make contacts with it, built-in batts and auto tuner, everybody I know who owns one sez it's their favorite radio, And, the number one reason: I have fun with it! (The auto tuner on KX1 is not as robust as the K1 tuner) Ron, wb1hga Jim Murray wrote: Aside from size and portability is there any difference in performance in the two? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1?
Jim, K2HN, asked: Have been thinking about getting my feet wet with building either a K1 or KX1. I see most posts seem to refer to the KX1. Aside from size and portability is there any difference in performance in the two? I can work with either one but would prefer the one with best performance. K2 next- can't find much that beats it. --- The KX1 is the "X"-treme portable rig. The whole station, key and antenna fits in my jacket pocket. It gives up a few things for that. One is output power. On internal batteries it is limited to 1.5 to 2 watts. So what's that? -- about 1/2 or 3/4 "S" unit below a full QRP Gallon: 5 watts. Shoot, I worked the world for years with my 2-watt HW-8, but it's still significantly less than 5 watts. But, if you have room for an external battery or power supply it'll come within a gnat's whisker of that QRP gallon. I don't have a K1 so I won't comment on a direct comparison. The KX1 does permit SWL-ing in the more popular SW broadcast ranges. Its internal ATU is more limited in matching range than the other Elecraft tuners because of the miniscule space it must fit into. That limits the number of inductors and caps that can be used to produce a match. If you have a pretty normal-sized operating desk and never operate portable, you'll like the K1 (or K2!!) much better except for the extended frequency coverage provided by the KX1. If you like portable ops, must travel frequently, or live in a small R.V., you'll probably appreciate the KX1. As for sheer performance in terms of receiver sensitivity, selectivity, and dynamic range, the K2 beats 'em all. Each Elecraft rig fits a niche. And many of us have more than one niche we want a rig to fit into, so we end up with more than one If you can tolerate a portable rig the size of fat hard-cover novel and want the greatest flexibility, I recommend the K2. With a 2-minute cover swap you can go from a QRO rig to a self-contained QRP portable station with built in wide(r) range ATU that only needs an external key (and the KXPD1 paddles can be used with the K2 using the special bracket Elecraft just announced that clamps to the K2 bail) and an antenna. Back home, you drop on a different cover and have a 100-watt 160-meter through 10 meter CW/Data/SSB station that leads the state of the art in Amateur gear. And people adverse to swapping covers have come up with a way to avoid that and just plug the K2 into the home station with the KPA100 and KAT100 amp and tuner in an Elecraft box that sits alongside the K2. It's all documented on the Elecraft web site. Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1?
KX1 has a synthesizer that does not drift, K1 has free running VFO. Its really a toss up as to which rig overall is better. 73/72 - Mike WA8BXN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1?
I have a K1 (bought someone else's) and a KX1 (built it, added KXB3080 this spring). I won't part with either, they do different stuff. The K1 is my all-time favorite radio, ever. Before I had Elecraft rigs, I had a Wilderness Sierra that I built -- that was my favorite before my K1. The K1 reminds me a little of the Sierra, but is a much more civilized rig. I just built an HF Packer amp, and the K1+amp combination is awesome. It's a tough choice, but I really don't think you can go wrong. 73, Mike N2HTT K1 s/n 566 KX1 s/n 98 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1?
Jim wrote: >Have been thinking about getting my feet wet with building either >a K1 or KX1. ... I can work with either one but would prefer the >one with best performance. As far as RF performance only goes, the K1 is clearly superior. (1) The K1 uses an LC VFO that is cleaner than the direct digital synthesis frequency generation scheme of the KX1. This reduces transmitter spurious output, and improves receiver performance because fewer spur frequencies are part of the local oscillator signal fed to the front-end mixer. In fact, according to reported measurements, the K1 has better transmitter spurious output specs than even the K2. (2) The K1 can be placed on any of the HF bands, though Elecraft currently sells parts for 80m through 15m only. The KX1 DDS chip is clocked at its maximum rate of 50 MHz, which limits KX1 frequency coverage to around 20m and lower. The 15m band is one of the best QRP bands when open. (3) The K1 IF uses a four-pole crystal filter, while the KX1 IF uses only three. (4) The K1's optional auto antenna tuner tunes a wider range of impedances than that of the KX1. (5) Most find the continuous LC VFO tuning of the K1 to be more natural than the step-wise tuning of the DDS in the KX1. (6) The K1 has a noise blanker option, while the KX1 does not. (7) The K1 transmitter can produce up to seven watts of output power. The KX1 is about half that. (8) The K1 case contains a speaker, the KX1 does not. (The K1 has plenty of audio to drive it too.) (9) Personal preference...I like the front mounted controls of the K1 more than the top mounted controls of the KX1. OTOH, the KX1 is clearly superior in terms of VFO stability...a DDS is about as stable as a crystal oscillator. It is superior in its span of frequency coverage within the limits of the DDS. It can switch between USB and LSB due to the frequency agility of the DDS as the local oscillator. It has neat features like audio feedback to controls. It is definitely smaller and lighter. IMHO, the KX1 has many positive features that the K1 doesn't have, but none of them except VFO stability actually are improvements over K1 RF performance in the ham CW bands. In overall RF performance, the K1 has the clear lead. But...if the K1 were not available, the KX1 would be my very next choice for a QRP rig. 73, Mike / KK5F ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1?
After reading the comments... eventually I guess I will need to "break down" and buy a K1 myself. I have been eyeing one up for quite some time. I don't have enough time to finish up all the add-ons for the second K2 yet so it will be a little while. Bill K9YEQ K2-35 & 5279; KX1-35/3080 ___ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 8:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1? I have a K1 (bought someone else's) and a KX1 (built it, added KXB3080 this spring). I won't part with either, they do different stuff. The K1 is my all-time favorite radio, ever. Before I had Elecraft rigs, I had a Wilderness Sierra that I built -- that was my favorite before my K1. The K1 reminds me a little of the Sierra, but is a much more civilized rig. I just built an HF Packer amp, and the K1+amp combination is awesome. It's a tough choice, but I really don't think you can go wrong. 73, Mike N2HTT K1 s/n 566 KX1 s/n 98 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1?
Now you guys are convincing me I should get a K1, too! Heck I don't even have enough time to operate, but it sure is fun to build! Bill K9YEQ K2-35 & 5279; KX1-35/3080 ___ Jim wrote: >Have been thinking about getting my feet wet with building either >a K1 or KX1. ... I can work with either one but would prefer the >one with best performance. As far as RF performance only goes, the K1 is clearly superior. (1) The K1 uses an LC VFO that is cleaner than the direct digital synthesis frequency generation scheme of the KX1. This reduces transmitter spurious output, and improves receiver performance because fewer spur frequencies are part of the local oscillator signal fed to the front-end mixer. In fact, according to reported measurements, the K1 has better transmitter spurious output specs than even the K2. [WJ] OTOH, the KX1 is clearly superior in terms of VFO stability...a DDS is about as stable as a crystal oscillator. It is superior in its span of frequency coverage within the limits of the DDS. It can switch between USB and LSB due to the frequency agility of the DDS as the local oscillator. It has neat features like audio feedback to controls. It is definitely smaller and lighter. IMHO, the KX1 has many positive features that the K1 doesn't have, but none of them except VFO stability actually are improvements over K1 RF performance in the ham CW bands. In overall RF performance, the K1 has the clear lead. But...if the K1 were not available, the KX1 would be my very next choice for a QRP rig. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1?
Mike N2HTT wrote: "The K1 is my all-time favorite radio, ever." I felt the same way! Then I buiult my K2. LL/K3ESE ps: re: K1 v. KX1 - you need both. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1?
I too have the K1 and like it very much. It is the 4 band version with a KAT1 tuner added. Also have a 2 band board that covers 160 and 80 meters. Have done the backlighting modification and this was well worth the effort!. I too have an HFPacker amp I built. It is an absolutely dynamite "pair of shoes" for the K1! My only complaint is the "hang time" on the RF actuated T/R switch is too long. No good for contest use! I tried it on the ARRL 160 meter contest last year. It's OK for casual QSO's but delay too long for CW. One day I will get that fixed. Some day in the future, I'd like to build the K2, probably the QRP version. 73, Sandy W5TVW - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1? | I have a K1 (bought someone else's) and a KX1 (built it, added KXB3080 this spring). | | I won't part with either, they do different stuff. | | The K1 is my all-time favorite radio, ever. | | Before I had Elecraft rigs, I had a Wilderness Sierra that I built -- that was my favorite before my K1. The K1 reminds me a little of the Sierra, but is a much more civilized rig. I just built an HF Packer amp, and the K1+amp combination is awesome. | | It's a tough choice, but I really don't think you can go wrong. | | 73, | Mike N2HTT | K1 s/n 566 | KX1 s/n 98 | | | ___ | Elecraft mailing list | Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net | You must be a subscriber to post to the list. | Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): | http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft | | Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm | Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com | | | | -- | No virus found in this incoming message. | Checked by AVG Free Edition. | Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.1/369 - Release Date: 6/19/2006 | | ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1?
I use my K1 more than my K2. The K1 is my overall favorite small QRP rig. Don/ WA9TGT On 6/22/06, Lloyd Lachow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mike N2HTT wrote: "The K1 is my all-time favorite radio, ever." I felt the same way! Then I buiult my K2. LL/K3ESE ps: re: K1 v. KX1 - you need both. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- WA9TGT / Don Garrett / Muncie, IN ARCI #6447, ARS #1717, AmQRP, ECI-QRP #001 (Indiana) Drake 2B, 2C, R4A, R4B, 2NT, TR-4, Elecraft K1 & K2 Drake MN-4 Tuner, 67' CF Zepp using glass doobies! Message To All: Please Buy American when possible. Our USA manufacturing base and it's workers really need your support these days! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K1 or KX1? Backpacking Analysis
... the KX1 wins handsdown for backpacking... Strange! Before the KX1 came out, the K1 was generally acknowledged as the best multi-band backpacking rig available. It is no less suitable for that task today. I think you misunderstand. Let me look at your comments one at a time. "If one is happy with the limited number of bands covered by the KX1" The KX1 covers 20, 30 and 40 meters. When one is talking about backpacking, they are spending a majority of their time hiking. Generally, and this will vary by person, a backpacker will hike during the day and set up camp during the late afternoon or early evening. I don't think that having the full spectrum of bands is going to add significantly to the hikers (aka ham's) enjoyment of his evening's operating, While it would certainly be nice to have a rig that was equipped with 10 through 80, I would suppose that only 1 or 2 bands would actually be used before it's time to hit the sack. "and recognizes that there is absolutely **no** physical way that KX1 receiver RF performance can match that of a properly constructed K1 in any area other than VFO stability," There are others here on this list that would say the difference is very minimal. Since I don't own a K1, I can't comment. "and that the ATU in the KX1 can't come close to the matching range of the K1's KAT1" Again, remember that the hiker is backpacking, and as such is carrying a small radio and minimal antenna. If I were to hike today, I would take the KX1 with 25' of antenna wire and 16' of counterpoise wire. Since the wire used would be very small, it would be light and compact. The KX1 easily matches that wire, once strung in a tree, to a perfect 1:1 on all 3 of its bands, which is all that is needed. While it IS true the K1's ATU may be better at matching systems under more difficult situations, that capability is not needed when out doors with a 25' of wire. "On the other hand, if RF performance *on the ham CW bands* is important, the K1 stands as the best of the two." I'm not sure how you justify that statement, but oh well. "I don't care that I can't use it for shortwave broadcasts or to copy the ham phone bands. I've got a Sony portable that'll do that quite adequately, with essential AM/FM coverage to boot." Are you needing to carry that too? That is an additional weight and more hardware to pack that is not required with the KX1. Specs that are important to me: The KX1 is 1.4 x 5.8 x 3.0" and weighs 9 oz (excluding options) It has a current drain of 32 mA on receive and 300-700 mA on transmit. The K1 is 2.4 x 5.2 x 7.1" and weighs 1.4 lbs (excluding options) It has a current drain of 55 mA on receive and 700-900 mA on transmit. The KX1 runs on 6 "AA" batteries, and will output 1.5 to 2.0 watts. The K1 runs on 8 "AA" batteries (with optional KBT1 installed) and will output 5 watts. The KX1 comes with a small keyer that attaches directly to the side of the KX1. The K1 requires a separate keyer. Don't get me wrong. I am not trying to tell you that the K1 is in anyway a lesser radio than the KX1. In fact, I own a KX1 and I am seriously considering purchasing a K1. There ARE some situations where the K1 just would be a better "fit" than the KX1. What I am talking about here is the practicality taking a ham radio hiking into the mountains. If I could carry it and the necessary hardware, I would love to hike into the woods with a K2 and a nice Buddipole. But being practical, I see the sense in having the KX1 as my radio of choice for backpacking, and thus the original statement... "the KX1 wins handsdown for backpacking..." Matt - K7OE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1? Backpacking Analysis
The KX1 is better for Pedestrian Mobile operation. Why not operate while you hike ? Paul w0rw ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K1 or KX1? Backpacking Analysis -- comment
I can only say that 80 percent of my contacts are on 20 or 40. So the number of bands covered by K1 or KX1 would not be an issue. The rig I use as all the bands available but I have favorites and I am sure it would be similar with the hikers too?? -- __ ___/ Chuck \_ | | | www.aa8vs.org/aa8vs | The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails." -- William Arthur Ward > >... the KX1 wins handsdown for backpacking... > > > Strange! Before the KX1 came out, the K1 was generally > > acknowledged as the best multi-band backpacking rig > > available. It is no less suitable for that task today. > > I think you misunderstand. Let me look at your comments > one at a time. > > "If one is happy with the limited number of bands > covered by the KX1" > > The KX1 covers 20, 30 and 40 meters. When one is talking > about backpacking, they are spending a majority of their > time hiking. Generally, and this will vary by person, a > backpacker will hike during the day and set up camp during > the late afternoon or early evening. I don't think that > having the full spectrum of bands is going to add > significantly to the hikers (aka ham's) enjoyment of his > evening's operating, While it would certainly be nice to > have a rig that was equipped with 10 through 80, I would > suppose that only 1 or 2 bands would actually be used > before it's time to hit the sack. > > "and recognizes that there is absolutely **no** > physical > way that KX1 receiver RF performance can match that of > a > properly constructed K1 in any area other than VFO > stability," > > There are others here on this list that would say the > difference is very minimal. Since I don't own a K1, I > can't comment. > > "and that the ATU in the KX1 can't come close to the > matching range of the K1's KAT1" > > Again, remember that the hiker is backpacking, and as such > is carrying a small radio and minimal antenna. If I were > to hike today, I would take the KX1 with 25' of antenna > wire and 16' of counterpoise wire. Since the wire used > would be very small, it would be light and compact. The > KX1 easily matches that wire, once strung in a tree, to a > perfect 1:1 on all 3 of its bands, which is all that is > needed. While it IS true the K1's ATU may be better at > matching systems under more difficult situations, that > capability is not needed when out doors with a 25' of > wire. > > "On the other hand, if RF performance *on the ham CW > bands* is important, the K1 stands as the best of the > two." > > I'm not sure how you justify that statement, but oh well. > > "I don't care that I can't use it for shortwave > broadcasts or to copy the ham phone bands. I've got a > Sony portable that'll do that quite adequately, with > essential AM/FM coverage to boot." > > Are you needing to carry that too? That is an additional > weight and more hardware to pack that is not required with > the KX1. > > Specs that are important to me: > > The KX1 is 1.4 x 5.8 x 3.0" and weighs 9 oz (excluding > options) > It has a current drain of 32 mA on receive and 300-700 mA > on transmit. > > The K1 is 2.4 x 5.2 x 7.1" and weighs 1.4 lbs (excluding > options) > It has a current drain of 55 mA on receive and 700-900 mA > on transmit. > > The KX1 runs on 6 "AA" batteries, and will output 1.5 to > 2.0 watts. > The K1 runs on 8 "AA" batteries (with optional KBT1 > installed) and will output 5 watts. > > The KX1 comes with a small keyer that attaches directly to > the side of the KX1. > The K1 requires a separate keyer. > > Don't get me wrong. I am not trying to tell you that the > K1 is in anyway a lesser radio than the KX1. In fact, I > own a KX1 and I am seriously considering purchasing a K1. > There ARE some situations where the K1 just would be a > better "fit" than the KX1. > > What I am talking about here is the practicality taking a > ham radio hiking into the mountains. If I could carry it > and the necessary hardware, I would love to hike into the > woods with a K2 and a nice Buddipole. But being practical, > I see the sense in having the KX1 as my radio of choice > for backpacking, and thus the original statement... > > "the KX1 wins handsdown for backpacking..." > > Matt - K7OE > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a
[Elecraft] K1 or KX1? Looking mainly at receiver
I am looking for a backpack rig (3-5 day backpacking trips). I know the KX1 is more portable but I am wondering specifically about the receiver performance between the two. Also in regards to the K2. I know the K2 is a better reciever but I'm coming from one disappointment. I purchased another rig that I was going to use as my backpacking rig but it's reciever is not that great and nothing I do makes it better. I may want the world, but I would like to have a decent receiver. On top of that, as long as it transmits and is decent on batteries, the other functionality is marginal on my list of priorities. Thanks for any comments, Jeremy KB8LFA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K1 or KX1 ??? That is the question.
Whether 'tis nobler to bear the slings and arrows of outrageous propagation or with a kit end them? You guys and all this talk of kit building is making my nose twitch and my fingers itchy. The soldering station is ready, pad wet, and rosined solder to the fore. Now which shall it be? My stalwart K2/100 #2511 works quite well each Sunday afternoon and each weekday morning for its various nets and skeds. But I want another rig to carry with me on trips and campouts. I am torn between the masters (read Wayne and Eric here) other two rigs. The KX1 has great reports: heck I give them all the time during ECN. They work quite well in the hands of the best (Ray, K2HYD and Rick, KL7CW please take a bow). Seems like they can beat their way through pileups to get my attention ;) I never truly believe them when they tell me 3 watts but it must be true. I've even worked Wayne from the sandy shores of Lake Michigan while he was contesting with his KX1. However, the K1 was shown to me by Karl, N7NLU during a contest where it worked admirably from our local park. It had some very nice features which pull my attention away from the KX1. More bands are covered but it does not cover so broad a frequency range as the KX1 in each of them. I also am not sure how well it may work during cross mode contacts. But, the countersunk screws sure are enticing. Once again in the hands of a master (read Ric, VE3XL with his late, lamented K1) it shines. Some of you have solved this dilemma by building one of each. I am fairly sure Wayne and Eric do not mind this solution. Then there is the input of the holder of the purse strings. How can one sneak another kit into the house without her approval? What should I say when asked? I know she'd send a nastygram to Elecraft in a minute if my heart is not pure and my reasoning sound. What to do? What to do? Kevin (lost in the RF once again) KD5ONS -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.7/112 - Release Date: 9/26/2005 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1? Looking mainly at receiver
Jeremy, I own a K2 and a KX1, and have some opinions; but I think there is no hard and fast answer. The K2 is superb; its receiver is about as good as my Icom IC-7800; no joke. Yes there are a few conditions in which I prefer the Icom, but to me, that is an amazing feat given the price difference. My only suggestion that might improve the K2 receiver performance factor for me would be improving the noise blanker & noise reduction DSP somewhat. When you say "as long as it can transmit" do you mean CW only? I assume so from your consideration of a KX1. I have not had my KX1 long enough or used it enough under varying circumstance, but it is more portable and has some nifty features, and is easier on the battery, and I do really like it. Perhaps you could share with us what rig you were disappointed by, and in what ways; since all solutions are compromises to some degree, it may help us better advise you. 73 de W5SV, Dave Jeremy Cowgar wrote: I am looking for a backpack rig (3-5 day backpacking trips). I know the KX1 is more portable but I am wondering specifically about the receiver performance between the two. Also in regards to the K2. I know the K2 is a better reciever but I'm coming from one disappointment. I purchased another rig that I was going to use as my backpacking rig but it's reciever is not that great and nothing I do makes it better. I may want the world, but I would like to have a decent receiver. On top of that, as long as it transmits and is decent on batteries, the other functionality is marginal on my list of priorities. Thanks for any comments, Jeremy KB8LFA -- David F. Reed - W5SV - cell: 512 585-1057 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1? Looking mainly at receiver
David F. Reed wrote: Jeremy, I own a K2 and a KX1, and have some opinions; but I think there is no hard and fast answer. The K2 is superb; its receiver is about as good as my Icom IC-7800; no joke. Yes there are a few conditions in which I prefer the Icom, but to me, that is an amazing feat given the price difference. My only suggestion that might improve the K2 receiver performance factor for me would be improving the noise blanker & noise reduction DSP somewhat. When you say "as long as it can transmit" do you mean CW only? I assume so from your consideration of a KX1. I have not had my KX1 long enough or used it enough under varying circumstance, but it is more portable and has some nifty features, and is easier on the battery, and I do really like it. Perhaps you could share with us what rig you were disappointed by, and in what ways; since all solutions are compromises to some degree, it may help us better advise you. I don't want to since all the other people I've talked to seem to have a fine rig. I don't want to degrade it for something that may have been my mistake. I have run into a few other people that are having my same problem though. I really don't think it was my building of the rig that caused the problem because I am an experienced builder that was very carefull. I have built many kits (OHR-100A, 38 Special, Rock Mite, ZM-2, Ten Tec 30m, K2 (#600), KD1JV's Digial SWR/Power meter, etc...) all those are great rigs and work as expected. The rig I am comparing to is an IC-703 which has a pretty good reciever in it and I don't expect any of the rigs to compare to it, but I do expect them to at least hear that signals are present when on my 703 they are copyable w/little difficulty. Is my expectation too high? I no longer have my K2, I was dumb and sold it to get into satellite ops. Today I rarely do sats but have remained constant with QRP. Jeremy KB8LFA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1? Looking mainly at receiver
"(3-5 day backpacking trips)" If it were me, I'd take the KX1. Smaller, lighter, perfect for a 3-5 day backpack trip. But then, that's just my .02c Matt - K7OE On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 10:13:13 -0400 Jeremy Cowgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am looking for a backpack rig (3-5 day backpacking trips). I know the KX1 is more portable but I am wondering specifically about the receiver performance between the two. Also in regards to the K2. I know the K2 is a better reciever but I'm coming from one disappointment. I purchased another rig that I was going to use as my backpacking rig but it's reciever is not that great and nothing I do makes it better. I may want the world, but I would like to have a decent receiver. On top of that, as long as it transmits and is decent on batteries, the other functionality is marginal on my list of priorities. Thanks for any comments, Jeremy KB8LFA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1? Looking mainly at receiver
On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 10:13:13 -0400 Jeremy Cowgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am looking for a backpack rig (3-5 day backpacking trips). I know the KX1 is more portable but I am wondering specifically about the receiver performance between the two. Also in regards to the K2. I know the K2 is a better reciever but I'm coming from one disappointment. I purchased another rig that I was going to use as my backpacking rig but it's reciever is not that great and nothing I do makes it better. I may want the world, but I would like to have a decent receiver. On top of that, as long as it transmits and is decent on batteries, the other functionality is marginal on my list of priorities. The KX1 is hard to beat for your need. The Rx is about as good as you're going to find in that size radio, it is light, and with the paddle and ATU, is really trail-ready. I've been powering mine with an 850 maH Li-polymer battery I got at the local RC Model shop that weighs an ounce to two. 12V for about 4W, and it easily lasts thru a Spartan Sprint. Actually, it lasted through a dozen or so QSO's while on a 15-day cruise through the Panama Canal this spring. My only complaint when using the KX1 in the S. Sprint is that at 1.5 hours, I kind of run out of people to work because everyone has gone to 80m. Fred K6DGW Auburn CA CM98lw ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1? Looking mainly at receiver
Jeremy wrote: >I know the KX1 is more portable but I am wondering specifically >about the receiver performance between the two. If properly built, the K1 has a somewhat better receiver than the KX1 in most areas. The advantages of the K1 receiver over that of the KX1 are: (1) Bands of operation. The K1 offers 15m in addition to the bands on the KX1. This is important, even in waning solar cycles, because when it's open 15m is one of the finest of QRP bands. An additional two-band board will let you add 80m and 17m. The clocking limitations of the direct digital synthesis (DDS) chip in the KX1 prevent operation on bands much above 20m. (2) Receiver I.F. filtering. The K1 has a four-pole crystal filter. The KX1 has a three-pole filter. (3) More natural tuning. The K1 has an LC VFO which tunes as fast or as slow as you turn the dial. The KX1 has step-wise DDS tuning, with manually selectable tuning steps. Not as natural, IMHO. (4) Cleaner RF response since the K1 has an LC VFO for its local oscillator (LO). The KX1 uses a DDS (without PLL) for the LO. All DDS generation schemes (except DDS-locked PLL systems) have spurious outputs which adversely affect recever performance. (5) Good internal speaker on the K1. No speaker on the KX1. I don't like to be tied to the radio with a headset if I'm just casually listening to a QSO. (6) Front mounted controls. I hate top mounted controls, except as a concession to simplifying the design and reducing the cost of a rig. I do not consider them "trail friendly." In the transmitter arena, the K1 offers higher power output if needed, lower spurious output (that DDS thing again), and most importantly the K1 ATU (KAT1) is a considerably wider range tuner compared to that of the KX1. However, in real life, whether you will notice some of these K1 advantages is open to question. The KX1 is indeed a fine little rig. Some of the KX1 advantges over the K1 are: (1) DDS gives crystal-like temperature stability, far better than the K1 (though the K1 is much better in this area than I would have expected for its LC VFO). (2) The KX1 can tune a wide segment of the HF spectrum and can thus serve as a small shortwave receiver for other things besides ham radio (SW broadcast stations and utility stations, etc.). The K1 covers only only the CW segments of its ham bands. (3) The KX1 receiver can function in either LSB or USB mode. You can tune the phone portion of 40m and 20m with it. The K1 receiver can only function in LSB mode. (4) A host of nice bells and whistles, like lighted frequency display, and audio annunciation (can be operated blind). The K1 has neither. (5) Very small bulk and light weight, even compared to the K1 (unless you start making extras like an external speaker for your KX1). I chose the K1 five years ago, three years before the KX1 became available. I would still chose it today, but I can understand the popularity of the KX1 especially if 15m isn't required. You can hardly go wrong either way. 73, Mike / KK5F ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1? Looking mainly at receiver
I got a K1 instead of a KX1 mainly because most of my field trips are day packing or car camping, not backpacking. The K1 is an exceptional performer, but I if my interests were in a backpacking rig, I would have gone with the KX1. I haven't been backpacking in a long time, but, from experience, at the end of the day, radio wasn't usually uppermost on my mind. Between all the "chores" necessary when making camp and spending some time with hiking friends or star gazing, you may find you will do a lot less radio than you had planned to do. The K1 with accessories is a lot of stuff to drag around if you don't use it much. The KX1 will be less of a burden. I think a realistic assessment of your needs will point to the right choice for you. The K1 and KX1 overlap in a lot of areas, but they really do serve different purposes. Eric KE6US www.ke6us.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 9:59 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1? Looking mainly at receiver "(3-5 day backpacking trips)" If it were me, I'd take the KX1. Smaller, lighter, perfect for a 3-5 day backpack trip. But then, that's just my .02c Matt - K7OE On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 10:13:13 -0400 Jeremy Cowgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am looking for a backpack rig (3-5 day backpacking trips). I know >the KX1 is more portable but I am wondering specifically about the >receiver performance between the two. Also in regards to the K2. I know >the K2 is a better reciever but I'm coming from one disappointment. I >purchased another rig that I was going to use as my backpacking rig but >it's reciever is not that great and nothing I do makes it better. I may >want the world, but I would like to have a decent receiver. On top of >that, as long as it transmits and is decent on batteries, the other >functionality is marginal on my list of priorities. > > Thanks for any comments, > > Jeremy > KB8LFA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1? Looking mainly at receiver
I've owned both a K1 and KX1 and I find the receiver performance to be about the same. For backpacking, the KX1 wins hands down. 72, Bruce N7CEE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1? Looking mainly at receiver
Thanks to so all those (many, many) who have responded. Got a lot of positive feedback on both. I purchased a KX1 today. Thanks! Jeremy KB8LFA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1? Looking mainly at receiver
It was reported: > ... the KX1 wins handsdown for backpacking... Strange! Before the KX1 came out, the K1 was generally acknowledged as the best multi-band backpacking rig available. It is no less suitable for that task today. If one is happy with the limited number of bands covered by the KX1, and recognizes that there is absolutely **no** physical way that KX1 receiver RF performance can match that of a properly constructed K1 in any area other than VFO stability, and that the ATU in the KX1 can't come close to the matching range of the K1's KAT1, then the KX1 is a great choice. On the other hand, if RF performance *on the ham CW bands* is important, the K1 stands as the best of the two. When I'm out in the boonies, I want the best possible RF performance on the ham CW bands that I can get in a small package. The K1 hasn't been shaken from that position. I don't care that I can't use it for shortwave broadcasts or to copy the ham phone bands. I've got a Sony portable that'll do that quite adequately, with essential AM/FM coverage to boot. So whether the KX1 "wins handsdown" depends on the criteria applied. It doesn't "win" for me, handsdown or otherwise. 73, Mike / KK5F ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1? Looking mainly at receiver
> Strange! Before the KX1 came out, the K1 was generally acknowledged as > the best multi-band backpacking rig available. It is no less suitable for > that > task today. There's nothing strange about a product evolving to improve in some ways while the old one remains suitable to task. Those two facts can co-exist quite happily. Understanding your needs and the tradeoffs between the rigs is the key. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1? Looking mainly at receiver
Mike Morrow wrote: ... the KX1 wins handsdown for backpacking... Strange! Before the KX1 came out, the K1 was generally acknowledged as the best multi-band backpacking rig available. It is no less suitable for that task today. When you go out and spend $200.00 on a 1 person tent that is 1lb lighter than your previous tent, and another $180 on a sleeping bag that is 1/2lb lighter, and continue to do so so your pack drops from 35lbs to 30lbs the KX1 is now a much better backpacking rig. Not only is the radio a little more than 1/2lb lighter, the batteries to power it for the same timeframe are lighter as well. Now, if your saying the KX1 will not work, then it's just dead weight when packed and that would be a different story. If one is happy with the limited number of bands covered by the KX1, and recognizes that there is absolutely **no** physical way that KX1 receiver RF performance can match that of a properly constructed K1 in any area other than VFO stability, and that the ATU in the KX1 can't come close to the matching range of the K1's KAT1, then the KX1 is a great choice. On the other hand, if RF performance *on the ham CW bands* is important, the K1 stands as the best of the two. When I'm out in the boonies, I want the best possible RF performance on the ham CW bands that I can get in a small package. The K1 hasn't been shaken from that position. I don't care that I can't use it for shortwave broadcasts or to copy the ham phone bands. I've got a Sony portable that'll do that quite adequately, with essential AM/FM coverage to boot. So whether the KX1 "wins handsdown" depends on the criteria applied. It doesn't "win" for me, handsdown or otherwise. For real backpacking it seems worth the comprimise. Jeremy KB8LFA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 or KX1 ??? That is the question.
Based on replies I got recently, and what I have heard for a while, it seems pretty easy. If you want something really easy to grab and go, especially light camping and pedestrian mobile, go KX1. If you want something for easy mobile, camping with some extra weight and room, and for hotel duty, go K1. The K1 seems to get the nod over even the K2 with many for casual ragchewing. Many describe it as having an undescribable quality that makes it easier to listen to. Just what I have heard. I already own a KX1, which was fun to build and even enjoyed passing on feedback on the manual and build process back to Wayne and Eric. I have hemmed and hawed recently over which rig to get next, including the impressive new NorCal NC2030, but I hope to be ordering my K1 quite soon. Hope this helps. David, K2TUE . --- Kevin Rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Whether 'tis nobler to bear the slings and arrows of outrageous > propagation or with a kit end them? > > You guys and all this talk of kit building is making my nose twitch and my > fingers itchy. The soldering station is ready, pad wet, and rosined > solder to the fore. Now which shall it be? My stalwart K2/100 #2511 > works quite well each Sunday afternoon and each weekday morning for its > various nets and skeds. But I want another rig to carry with me on trips > and campouts. I am torn between the masters (read Wayne and Eric here) > other two rigs. > > The KX1 has great reports: heck I give them all the time during ECN. They > work quite well in the hands of the best (Ray, K2HYD and Rick, KL7CW > please take a bow). Seems like they can beat their way through pileups to > get my attention ;) I never truly believe them when they tell me 3 watts > but it must be true. I've even worked Wayne from the sandy shores of Lake > Michigan while he was contesting with his KX1. However, the K1 was shown > to me by Karl, N7NLU during a contest where it worked admirably from our > local park. It had some very nice features which pull my attention away > from the KX1. More bands are covered but it does not cover so broad a > frequency range as the KX1 in each of them. I also am not sure how well > it may work during cross mode contacts. But, the countersunk screws sure > are enticing. Once again in the hands of a master (read Ric, VE3XL with > his late, lamented K1) it shines. > > Some of you have solved this dilemma by building one of each. I am fairly > sure Wayne and Eric do not mind this solution. Then there is the input of > the holder of the purse strings. How can one sneak another kit into the > house without her approval? What should I say when asked? I know she'd > send a nastygram to Elecraft in a minute if my heart is not pure and my > reasoning sound. What to do? What to do? > > Kevin (lost in the RF once again) KD5ONS > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.7/112 - Release Date: 9/26/2005 > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
