Re: [Elecraft] Software Upgrades
I have upgraded to every firmware beta and never had a problem. David Wilburn K4DGW BOB PHILBROOK wrote: After reading countless reflector comments about firmware upgrades and releases, it appears to me that in many instances such so called upgrades are two steps forward and one in reverse. You know the drill, fix this problem, add a new feature, and then find that something that worked in previous versions does not function as expected and now demands a fix and another firmware version. Personally, I would like to see fewer firmware releases and more time spent vetting firmware before it is released. Firmware upgrades should be two steps forward -- period! The rush to add new features and fix bugs in firmware appears to me to be too rushed to be efficient and effective. Tell me fellows, why the rush? Bob, K9PAG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Software Upgrades
Lyle Johnson wrote: > >> Set the PWR control to 100w (or 120w if you wish) and control the power >> output using the MIC level control on the front panel. (MIC SEL = LINE >> IN). >> Or is that classed as cheating? :-) > > Yes, I think it is :-) > > The problem with this approach is that over time the slow ALC loop may > try to build the power level up to that which you've set with the PWR > control. > > 73, > > Lyle KK7P > Hello Lyle I have to bow to your superior knowledge in these matters, but over two or three PSK QSO's (say, 20-25 minutes) I haven't noted any increase in transmitted power from the 35-40 watts I start with. What sort of time scale would you expect the ALC loop to require to get close to the level set on the PWR control? I will look at it more closely in future. 73 Norman _ GM4KGK K3 - #1139 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Software-Upgrades-tp729564p731588.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Software Upgrades
The K3 operating tip regarding PSK setup: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_operating_tips.htm#psk%20audio really does need to be updated. It was written before the ALC system changes that came with MCU 1.87. Bob NW8L On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Lyle Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Set the PWR control to 100w (or 120w if you wish) and control the power >> output using the MIC level control on the front panel. (MIC SEL = LINE >> IN). >> Or is that classed as cheating? :-) > > Yes, I think it is :-) > > The problem with this approach is that over time the slow ALC loop may try > to build the power level up to that which you've set with the PWR control. > > 73, > > Lyle KK7P > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Software Upgrades
Set the PWR control to 100w (or 120w if you wish) and control the power output using the MIC level control on the front panel. (MIC SEL = LINE IN). Or is that classed as cheating? :-) Yes, I think it is :-) The problem with this approach is that over time the slow ALC loop may try to build the power level up to that which you've set with the PWR control. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Software Upgrades
Dave G4AON wrote: > > > There are still issues to be resolved, one I would like fixed is the > inability to adjust power while transmitting data which is tedious. > There are published items on the "to be implemented" list such as the > TCXO calibration to 0.5ppm. > > I hope I'm not missing something but I seem to be able to vary the power in data modes from zero to any sensible level that doesn't run into ALC (about 70 watts max). Set the PWR control to 100w (or 120w if you wish) and control the power output using the MIC level control on the front panel. (MIC SEL = LINE IN). Or is that classed as cheating? :-) Norman - GM4KGK -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Software-Upgrades-tp729564p730318.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Software Upgrades
Having already survived the Ten-Tec Orion I firmware and hardware upgrade fiasco, I must admit that my experiences with the Elecraft firmware migration has been a real pleasure. I eagerly download each new beta version as soon as I know it's available. I have never regressed to a previous edition. This was not the case with my Orion I. The ease of loading a new version of the K3 firmware is an added plus over the Orion (power on - hold the proper buttons - hold tongue just right while crossing fingers). If there is some substantive issue with a new K3 version, a corrected version appears within hours (not weeks or months as was the case with my Orion I). Also, the actual programmers of the K3 are accessible and responsive. I never did succeed in contacting an Orion I programmer. Waiting over a year for Orion firmware that did not occasionally crash like Windows 3.1 was frustrating! Considering the big 3 japanese manufacturers; if it doesn't work to your expectations, simply wait for a subsequent model introduction and see if that's better. If one is not comfortable with frequent K3 firmware upgrades, simply ignore the "beta" versions. New "production" versions are not all that frequent. If one enjoys playing with new features and functions as soon as the guys in Aptos make them available, then dive into the "betas". It's an opportunity to participate in the engineering process! Hey, these guys LISTEN to our feedback. I'm having a ball participating in the evolution of this fine radio. I think they're doing it in a most acceptable fashion. BOB PHILBROOK wrote: After reading countless reflector comments about firmware upgrades and releases, it appears to me that in many instances such so called upgrades are two steps forward and one in reverse. You know the drill, fix this problem, add a new feature, and then find that something that worked in previous versions does not function as expected and now demands a fix and another firmware version. Personally, I would like to see fewer firmware releases and more time spent vetting firmware before it is released. Firmware upgrades should be two steps forward -- period! The rush to add new features and fix bugs in firmware appears to me to be too rushed to be efficient and effective. Tell me fellows, why the rush? Bob, K9PAG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com