RE: Re: [Elecraft] Import tax and VAT (UK)
And I thought it was -- Parcel Farce 73 Peter GM8GAX ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: Re: [Elecraft] Import tax and VAT (UK)
English was never my best subject, but... I think he had it right first time round... it's their name, rather than two words... As per their web site: C Copyright Parcelforce Worldwide 2008. All Rights Reserved (that is unless the royal mail got it wrong as well?) 73 Andy http://www.gd0tep.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 November 2008 12:45 To: David Honey; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: Re: [Elecraft] Import tax and VAT (UK) I agree with all you say, except spelling of Parcel Force... David G3UNA > > From: David Honey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2008/11/24 Mon AM 11:45:26 GMT > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Import tax and VAT (UK) > > I think it also depends on the point of entry and where the customs > centre is located. > Parcelforce International have a big clearing centre where all > internal packages arrive. > Unfortunately, as I was told by a customs officer there, their > computer system does not > accept the full TARIC code. So the officer enters the first N digits. > In some cases, the > rate of duty varies between the exact codes of that group, so they > charge the highest > duty of the group. > > This is not a problem that suppliers and shippers can solve. It's > systemic in the poor way in > which the IT support that supports customs within Parcelforce > International works. So even > though Elecraft uses the correct code and this is demonstrably > correct, you still get charged. > > This happened to me when I ordered the KPA100 option. It took 2 > months to get my money > back. If you use a courier such as UPS, DHL etc, their customs > clearance processes are > usually better. > > So I'm afraid there is little that you can do about this other than > pursue wrongful > charges vigorously to get your money back. I wrote a letter of > complaint, but other > than letting off steam, I doubt it had any real effect. Perhaps if > everyone who suffered > the same fate did likewise, someone in customs in Parcelforce might > take notice. > Until then, remember the old motto: Nils carborundum illegitemae. > > vy 73 de David M0DHO > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1808 - Release Date: 23/11/2008 18:59 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: Re: [Elecraft] Import tax and VAT (UK)
I agree with all you say, except spelling of Parcel Force... David G3UNA > > From: David Honey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2008/11/24 Mon AM 11:45:26 GMT > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Import tax and VAT (UK) > > I think it also depends on the point of entry and where the customs > centre is located. > Parcelforce International have a big clearing centre where all > internal packages arrive. > Unfortunately, as I was told by a customs officer there, their > computer system does not > accept the full TARIC code. So the officer enters the first N digits. > In some cases, the > rate of duty varies between the exact codes of that group, so they > charge the highest > duty of the group. > > This is not a problem that suppliers and shippers can solve. It's > systemic in the poor way in > which the IT support that supports customs within Parcelforce > International works. So even > though Elecraft uses the correct code and this is demonstrably > correct, you still get charged. > > This happened to me when I ordered the KPA100 option. It took 2 > months to get my money > back. If you use a courier such as UPS, DHL etc, their customs > clearance processes are > usually better. > > So I'm afraid there is little that you can do about this other than > pursue wrongful > charges vigorously to get your money back. I wrote a letter of > complaint, but other > than letting off steam, I doubt it had any real effect. Perhaps if > everyone who suffered > the same fate did likewise, someone in customs in Parcelforce might > take notice. > Until then, remember the old motto: Nils carborundum illegitemae. > > vy 73 de David M0DHO > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Import tax and VAT (UK)
Hallo, I think it also depends on the point of entry and where the customs centre is located. Up to now my experience has been, if it has been sent via regular mail (USPS, Deutsche Post, DHL), then customs is often . Via UPS, til now, I haven't had any problems. But of course my personal sample size is very small... vy 73 de toby ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Import tax and VAT (UK)
I think it also depends on the point of entry and where the customs centre is located. Parcelforce International have a big clearing centre where all internal packages arrive. Unfortunately, as I was told by a customs officer there, their computer system does not accept the full TARIC code. So the officer enters the first N digits. In some cases, the rate of duty varies between the exact codes of that group, so they charge the highest duty of the group. This is not a problem that suppliers and shippers can solve. It's systemic in the poor way in which the IT support that supports customs within Parcelforce International works. So even though Elecraft uses the correct code and this is demonstrably correct, you still get charged. This happened to me when I ordered the KPA100 option. It took 2 months to get my money back. If you use a courier such as UPS, DHL etc, their customs clearance processes are usually better. So I'm afraid there is little that you can do about this other than pursue wrongful charges vigorously to get your money back. I wrote a letter of complaint, but other than letting off steam, I doubt it had any real effect. Perhaps if everyone who suffered the same fate did likewise, someone in customs in Parcelforce might take notice. Until then, remember the old motto: Nils carborundum illegitemae. vy 73 de David M0DHO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com