Re: [O] OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs

2013-04-24 Thread Eric S Fraga
Julien Cubizolles j.cubizol...@free.fr writes:

 Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk writes:


 I tried out the sync to calendar option in MobileOrg.  It synced tasks
 (i.e. scheduled and deadline entries) but not entries with just active
 time stamps which are what I use for appointments.

 It's working for me: I'm using the latest MobileOrg from the PlayStore
 and entries with just a time stamp are synced to my Android phone
 calendar. I think however it didn't use to work before, and the doc on
 the github site seems to say that it's not possible.

 Julien.

Interesting.  I'll have to try again although it's only been a month or
so since I last tried.

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Re: [O] OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs

2013-04-24 Thread Eric S Fraga
白い熊@相撲道 emacs-orgmode_gnu@sumou.com writes:

* Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:
 Basically, we're almost there but not quite.  It sure would be nice to
 have Emacs running properly on Android just to be able to have full
 org-mode on the move.  

 I've built glibc 2.17 for Android, now I compile all GNU apps natively
 on my phone (Samsung Galaxy Note II). Using http://kumatux.org/ (my

[...]

 So, I have full Emacs (latest bzr) running on the phone. Using
 Hacker's Keybod app works well.

[...]

 So, we're already there! I just need to polish what I'm using, no I
 can then publish it. I'll try to make sure not to forget to publicize
 here also.

This is really brilliant news!  I look forward to the announcement of
your polished system.  Is it worth looking at kumatux.org now or must I
wait?

thanks,
eric

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Re: [O] OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs

2013-04-24 Thread 白い熊
* Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:
 Basically, we're almost there but not quite.  It sure would be nice
to
 have Emacs running properly on Android just to be able to have full
 org-mode on the move.

I've built glibc 2.17 for Android, now I compile all GNU apps natively on my 
phone (Samsung Galaxy Note II). Using http://kumatux.org/ (my app) I can 
install any compiled app anywhere locally on the system, withoit messing with 
the underlying file structure - originally I started developing this for my 
laptop, but particularly useful for Android...

So, I have full Emacs (latest bzr) running on the phone. Using Hacker's Keybod 
app works well.

I've been upgrading kumatux.org, will probably take me a month or two, to 
finish the latest rebuild - I'm converting to running out of Clisp, rather than 
just shell scripts.

Then I'm planning to publish a guide how to build emacs natively on Android, as 
well an put the built tarballs somewhere...

So, we're already there! I just need to polish what I'm using, no I can then 
publish it. I'll try to make sure not to forget to publicize here also.

--
白い熊



Re: [O] OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs

2013-04-23 Thread Karl Voit
* Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:

 I found that you can get the Emacs app started without segfaulting if
 you reduce the font size.  Of course, that may make the text
 illegible for you... :-(

Thanks to everyone sending me this tipp. It worked :-)

 The on-screen keyboard is not ideal, of course.  My bluetooth
 mini-keyboard doesn't transmit CTRL unfortunately so not very useful.

Ack.  ... Oh ... I agree. :-)

 Basically, we're almost there but not quite.  It sure would be nice to
 have Emacs running properly on Android just to be able to have full
 org-mode on the move.  

I am looking forward to this!

 Although I'm using MobileOrg more and more, I'm only using it for
 capturing notes.  I really want appointments and everything else
 as well!

Same here at my side. Next, I want to test the agenda on MobileOrg
and the feature to show it on the Android calendar. This way, I want
to get rid of Google more and more which has proven to be not
reliable at all (dying Reader, dying APIs, ...).

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Re: [O] OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs

2013-04-23 Thread Eric S Fraga
Karl Voit devn...@karl-voit.at writes:

 * Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:
 Although I'm using MobileOrg more and more, I'm only using it for
 capturing notes.  I really want appointments and everything else
 as well!

 Same here at my side. Next, I want to test the agenda on MobileOrg
 and the feature to show it on the Android calendar. This way, I want
 to get rid of Google more and more which has proven to be not
 reliable at all (dying Reader, dying APIs, ...).

I tried out the sync to calendar option in MobileOrg.  It synced tasks
(i.e. scheduled and deadline entries) but not entries with just active
time stamps which are what I use for appointments.  In my use of org, I
have a clear distinction between tasks and appointments.  I schedule
tasks to days but not times.  Appointments are not tasks as they
disappear whether I attended them or not whereas tasks persist.

I would like active time stamps to appear in my calendar for the at a
glance identification of free and busy times and for reminders of when
I need to be somewhere.  I prefer to keep task information in org and
not in my Google calendar so MobileOrg's behaviour is exactly the
opposite of what I wanted unfortunately.

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Re: [O] OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs

2013-04-23 Thread 白い熊


* Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:
 Basically, we're almost there but not quite.  It sure would be nice
to
 have Emacs running properly on Android just to be able to have full
 org-mode on the move.

I've built glibc 2.17 for Android, now I compile all GNU apps natively on my 
phone (Samsung Galaxy Note II). Using http://kumatux.org/ (my app) I can 
install any compiled app anywhere locally on the system, withoit messing with 
the underlying file structure - originally I started developing this for my 
laptop, but particularly useful for Android...

So, I have full Emacs (latest bzr) running on the phone. Using Hacker's Keybod 
app works well.

I've been upgrading kumatux.org, will probably take me a month or two, to 
finish the latest rebuild - I'm converting to running out of Clisp, rather than 
just shell scripts.

Then I'm planning to publish a guide how to build emacs natively on Android, as 
well an put the built tarballs somewhere...

So, we're already there! I just need to polish what I'm using, no I can then 
publish it. I'll try to make sure not to forget to publicize here also.

--
白い熊@相撲道



Re: [O] OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs

2013-04-23 Thread Julien Cubizolles
Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk writes:


 I tried out the sync to calendar option in MobileOrg.  It synced tasks
 (i.e. scheduled and deadline entries) but not entries with just active
 time stamps which are what I use for appointments.

It's working for me: I'm using the latest MobileOrg from the PlayStore
and entries with just a time stamp are synced to my Android phone
calendar. I think however it didn't use to work before, and the doc on
the github site seems to say that it's not possible.

Julien.




Re: [O] OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs (was: Org-mode as a replacement for Google Reader)

2013-04-18 Thread Subhan Tindall
Android emacs has known problems segfaulting dependant on font size.  Try
starting with the smallest font  work your way up.
See:
https://github.com/zielmicha/emacs-android/issues/2
for further information  workarounds


On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Karl Voit devn...@karl-voit.at wrote:

 * Tom t...@goochesa.de wrote:
 
  Karl Voit devn...@karl-voit.at schrieb:
 
 I also tested a FreedomPro bluetooth keyboard with my XOOM tablet.
 Unfortunately, no Ctrl/ESC/Alt is working. So Android/Emacs is not
 usable without the Hacker's keyboard which is an on-screen
 keyboard that offers all those modifier keys. When the on-screen
 keyboard uses half of the tablet screen, it is no fun using Emacs
 at all.
 
  There is an app, External Keyboard Helper (Pro), that enables full
  usage of most bluetooth/usb keyboards. It is not without usability
  Problems, some would need a rooted phone to solve, but I'm happy
  with the setup so far. I mostly need it for connectbot sessions.

 Thank you *very* much for this pointer!

 Unfortunately, my Android Emacs segfaults now (can't test it) and
 while typing in a note taking app works quite fine, simple
 characters like «!» do not work in ConnectBot/vim :-(

 I have to invest some time in this tool. Probably I might be able to
 get it to work.

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[O] OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs (was: Org-mode as a replacement for Google Reader)

2013-04-16 Thread Karl Voit
* Tom t...@goochesa.de wrote:

 Karl Voit devn...@karl-voit.at schrieb:

I also tested a FreedomPro bluetooth keyboard with my XOOM tablet.
Unfortunately, no Ctrl/ESC/Alt is working. So Android/Emacs is not
usable without the Hacker's keyboard which is an on-screen
keyboard that offers all those modifier keys. When the on-screen
keyboard uses half of the tablet screen, it is no fun using Emacs
at all.

 There is an app, External Keyboard Helper (Pro), that enables full
 usage of most bluetooth/usb keyboards. It is not without usability
 Problems, some would need a rooted phone to solve, but I'm happy
 with the setup so far. I mostly need it for connectbot sessions. 

Thank you *very* much for this pointer!

Unfortunately, my Android Emacs segfaults now (can't test it) and
while typing in a note taking app works quite fine, simple
characters like «!» do not work in ConnectBot/vim :-(

I have to invest some time in this tool. Probably I might be able to
get it to work.

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Re: [O] OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs

2013-04-16 Thread David Rogers
Karl Voit devn...@karl-voit.at writes:

 Unfortunately, my Android Emacs segfaults now (can't test it)

There is a known segfault related to having the font size set too
large. I forget how to fix it because I haven't been using Android Emacs
lately, but try setting the font smaller in whatever way you can.

-- 
David



Re: [O] OT: Android, external HW-keyboard and Emacs

2013-04-16 Thread Eric S Fraga
Karl Voit devn...@karl-voit.at writes:

 Unfortunately, my Android Emacs segfaults now (can't test it) and

I found that you can get the Emacs app started without segfaulting if
you reduce the font size.  Of course, that may make the text
illegible for you... :-(

The on-screen keyboard is not ideal, of course.  My bluetooth
mini-keyboard doesn't transmit CTRL unfortunately so not very useful.

Basically, we're almost there but not quite.  It sure would be nice to
have Emacs running properly on Android just to be able to have full
org-mode on the move.  Although I'm using MobileOrg more and more, I'm
only using it for capturing notes.  I really want appointments and
everything else as well!

I've only tried Emacs on my recently acquired Nexus 4 (phone) but will
try it out on a tablet (Nexus 7) tomorrow hopefully.  Not what I want in
the long term but worth trying, I guess.

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