Re: [e-users] [E-devel] e17 default theme ... polishing
Btw, the text in the battery and temperature modules is too small, practically unreadable. I know I can change the scaling factor, but I'm OK with the standard scaling but for those modules. Thanks, -- Stefano -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] e17 default theme ... polishing
+1 for this one (though I don't use taskbar :P ) On Thursday February 7 2013 00:21:33 P Purkayastha escribió: On 02/07/2013 11:08 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:25:39 -0800 Barton bar...@bcdesignswell.com said: Off the top of my head: Minimized icons in Tasks are obscured almost beyond recognition (I really have to squint to make them out) and suggestion on alternative? (i made them shrink to indicate iconification). tbh my point of polishing is to ensure that if i begin on an elm theme that i dont base it off something that is bad. ... tasks is not on the list of things that matter there :) buty... do suggest a solution... because right now.. i don't have a good one in my head, so i won't do anything until i have one. :) Put a dark black (or orange, like in mixer) layer over the icons and/or make their background darker so that they appear muted in some sense? -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users Wido -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] e17 default theme ... polishing
On 02/07/2013 11:08 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:25:39 -0800 Barton bar...@bcdesignswell.com said: Off the top of my head: Minimized icons in Tasks are obscured almost beyond recognition (I really have to squint to make them out) and suggestion on alternative? (i made them shrink to indicate iconification). tbh my point of polishing is to ensure that if i begin on an elm theme that i dont base it off something that is bad. ... tasks is not on the list of things that matter there :) buty... do suggest a solution... because right now.. i don't have a good one in my head, so i won't do anything until i have one. :) Put a dark black (or orange, like in mixer) layer over the icons and/or make their background darker so that they appear muted in some sense? -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] e17 default theme ... polishing
Could we put the mild theme I sent few months ago? It's basically some ifdef to remove clutter. Similar to terminology, some people may like it better. I certainly do. :-) Other than that I'd request that: - have white only icons. Prefer to have blur separated from icon. Then I can do grayish theme with color only for highlight - color classes for text at least, even better if for icons as well. This way people may choose orange, purple, green... On Wednesday, January 30, 2013, Carsten Haitzler wrote: i'd like to put this out there. now e17 is out - i'm looking at POLISHING the default theme. over time that is. what i am asking for here is INPUT as to what you think could be polished.. and HOW - don't just complain. provide alternatives. and don't just say it's unreadable as if we wanted purely readable it'd be only black and white with no shades at all and everything massive so you can fit 2 icons on a screen and 2 lines of text. :) there is a compromise between readable/usable, practical AND looking nice and being consistent. i want to polish off e17's theme before i launch full on into fixing up elm. so here is my current theme todo. if you have suggestions on these, please chime in. if you can draw up your ideas - even roughly, even better! e17 theme: * ilist headers a bit meh * text mouse pointer meh * button image needs more resolution for gradient * ilist/titlebar grdient image needs mroe vertical height for resolution * radio/check items need more sizes for selection dot/cross for scaling * init splash meh * frames a bit meh * bluez4 gadget ... meh * randr needs nicer clone gfx * lock screen needs panel holding entry box (and probably icon too?) * comp needs styles for slide in with clip * comp needs slide in without clip * comp needs a map based flip in style icons yes most icons were copied from old bw or minimally worked on. i don't really need comments on the icons - i know. ignore those for now. focus on the rest. icons are a related, yet separate matter. comments please! input! :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com javascript:; -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_jan ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-de...@lists.sourceforge.net javascript:; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_jan ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] e17 default theme ... polishing
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:48:04 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: Could we put the mild theme I sent few months ago? It's basically some ifdef to remove clutter. Similar to terminology, some people may like it better. I certainly do. :-) that's a different theme... i have plans for something that you'd like - with your tastes.. but its another theme... so hold up there. :) Other than that I'd request that: - have white only icons. Prefer to have blur separated from icon. Then I can do grayish theme with color only for highlight argh... that makes life hard. - color classes for text at least, even better if for icons as well. This way people may choose orange, purple, green... yes yes. things are marked as colorclasses.. i jsut didnt add a colorclasses section. On Wednesday, January 30, 2013, Carsten Haitzler wrote: i'd like to put this out there. now e17 is out - i'm looking at POLISHING the default theme. over time that is. what i am asking for here is INPUT as to what you think could be polished.. and HOW - don't just complain. provide alternatives. and don't just say it's unreadable as if we wanted purely readable it'd be only black and white with no shades at all and everything massive so you can fit 2 icons on a screen and 2 lines of text. :) there is a compromise between readable/usable, practical AND looking nice and being consistent. i want to polish off e17's theme before i launch full on into fixing up elm. so here is my current theme todo. if you have suggestions on these, please chime in. if you can draw up your ideas - even roughly, even better! e17 theme: * ilist headers a bit meh * text mouse pointer meh * button image needs more resolution for gradient * ilist/titlebar grdient image needs mroe vertical height for resolution * radio/check items need more sizes for selection dot/cross for scaling * init splash meh * frames a bit meh * bluez4 gadget ... meh * randr needs nicer clone gfx * lock screen needs panel holding entry box (and probably icon too?) * comp needs styles for slide in with clip * comp needs slide in without clip * comp needs a map based flip in style icons yes most icons were copied from old bw or minimally worked on. i don't really need comments on the icons - i know. ignore those for now. focus on the rest. icons are a related, yet separate matter. comments please! input! :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com javascript:; -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_jan ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-de...@lists.sourceforge.net javascript:; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_jan ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_jan ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] e17 default theme ... polishing
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:57:22 +0100 Bruno bonbon...@internet.lu said: On Wed, 30 January 2013 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: now e17 is out - i'm looking at POLISHING the default theme. over time that is. what i am asking for here is INPUT as to what you think could be polished.. and HOW - don't just complain. provide alternatives. and don't just say it's unreadable as if we wanted purely readable it'd be only black and white with no shades at all and everything massive so you can fit 2 icons on a screen and 2 lines of text. :) there is a compromise between readable/usable, practical AND looking nice and being consistent. i want to polish off e17's theme before i launch full on into fixing up elm. I'm running with E17 release so things might have changed in SVN since then. For mouse pointers I have a hard time getting used to the hot spot located at the white end of the pointer (thus ~2 pixels inside the pointer) instead of being at the first black pixel. The black border around the hot spot makes it harder to point at the expected pixel. Current cursor Expected cursor hotspot: hotspot: ↓ ↓ ▓ →▓ █▓ █▓ █▓▓ █▓▓ →█░▓▓█░▓▓ █░░▓▓ █░░▓▓ █░░░▓▓ █░░░▓▓ █▓▓ █▓▓ fixed. your wish is my command :) The window resizing cursor with the blue box has one big disadvantage which shows when only a small part of the cursor is visible (as in resizing a window from bottom when the bottom of the window is just a few pixels from bottom of screen. (same applies to right end of screen). hmm. this needs more work. basically we have ZERO pointers for these other modes and i did it quickly using an animated blue box to indicate the action... but i left ptr there and alone. it probably should change too - i just should draw some pointer-look-alike style pointer images pointing up/down/left/right/ at diagonals...:) For the clock gadget, in Digital mode, horizontal layout, the gadget only expands its width against time width instead of against longest of time or date. thats hard to do. :) thus the options for date formats. :) In IBar, the label of icons is clipped to shelf which is especially bad for vertical layout as nearly no label fits in the small space. Instead of being drawn inside the gadget/shelf it should rather show as a tool-tip. (not sure if this is only a theme thing or more of a gadget change) not something theme can clean up atm. :) Bruno -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_jan ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-de...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_jan ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
