[EVDL] EVLN: GenZe e-bicycle has the same batteries as a Tesla-S EV
http://www.businessinsider.in/What-its-like-to-ride-an-electric-bike-that-uses-the-same-batteries-as-a-Tesla-Model-S/articleshow/47275304.cms What it's like to ride an electric bike that uses the same batteries as a Tesla Model S Biz Carson0 May 14, 2015 [images / Business Insider https://static-ssl.businessinsider.com/image/5553aa976da811d226e8a318-2256-1504/img_6108-4.jpg GenZe e-bikes at a rally before Silicon Valley Fashion Week https://static-ssl.businessinsider.com/image/5553aa956bb3f728227c05ae-2256-1504/img_6104-2.jpg The GenZe recreational e-bike https://static-ssl.businessinsider.com/image/5553aa996bb3f75e1d7c05b0-3264-2448/img_1330-2.jpg The dashboard of the GenZe e-bike https://static-ssl.businessinsider.com/image/5553aa986bb3f7cb217c05ae-2256-1504/img_6103-1.jpg San Francisco e-bike riders in front of the Ferry Building video flash ] I was terrified to try it. The last time I had been on a public bicycle was in Seville, Spain, where I got hit by a motorcyclist who failed to look on a turn. This time, I was climbing on an electronic bike with a motor of its own that could take me up to 20 m.p.h. hurtling through the streets of San Francisco. All I had to do was twist my right hand on the throttle. One reason people (like me) don't bike to work is safety. The other reason? Sweat. Some people don't want to arrive drenched after they've traveled across the city with a backpack stuck to their shirts. E-bikes are starting to catch on in Europe, and now a company called GenZe, based in Fremont, California, wants to popularize them here too. It makes sense in a city that has hills, money, and workers, all in abundance. GenZe's e-bike models use the same Samsung batteries as the Tesla Model S to help supplement your pedaling. The battery is actually removable, so you can take it out of the bike and charge it at work with a cord about the size of your laptop charger. The bike itself operates in two modes: pedal-assist or throttle only. I started in the pedal-assist mode because that's how most people ride a bike. On the e-bike, I immediately noticed the difference as I started through an intersection. As you start pedaling, the motor engages and you are gliding forward faster. Think of it as using a moving sidewalk in an airport compared to just walking alongside it - the moving sidewalk gets you there faster without having to increase your effort. Then there are the speeds, depending on how much "assistance" you want with your pedaling. The higher the number, one through five, is the level of thrust it will give. I chickened out and set it to 1 in the beginning because I wanted it to feel more like a bike. It is heavy at 45 pounds, and if you are pedaling, you can feel a bit of the difference, especially trying to get it going. I was being passed by most San Francisco bike commuters, although that could have been my inexperience on the streets. I eventually increased it to three on a few long straightaways so I could travel at higher speeds. The higher the number, the more the motor will kick in. The dashboard of the GenZe e-bike shows you things like your speed and what level of pedal-assist mode you are on. On the left handlebar is how you turn on and off the motor as well as how you adjust the mode. Eventually, I scaled the pedal-assist down to zero and let the bike do all of it. When you turn it into motor-only mode, you turn your right hand and it accelerates. It takes a bit of coordination to switch into right hand accelerating, left hand breaking, but I found that when I wasn't pedaling, I kind of just sat and looked around, much like when you are in the driver's seat of a car. The physical intensity (and mental distraction) of actually riding a bike was gone. This is perhaps one of its better uses: A no-workout, no-sweat mode of commuting that's not putting you in the thick of traffic or down into the subway. Of course, you can always turn on the pedal assist mode if you want to feel like you're at least "biking" to work, not just riding atop one. On San Francisco's hills, that extra bit of thrust would be helpful. However, even if you don't ride up the hills, you could get a pretty big workout hauling a 45-pound bike upstairs into your apartment every night. With its $1,499 price tag, this isn't one you want to leave in the street or in the stairwell. [© businessinsider.in] For EVLN posts use: http://evdl.org/evln/ {brucedp.150m.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-GenZe-e-bicycle-has-the-same-batteries-as-a-Tesla-S-EV-tp4675708.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EVLN: Plugins were three of David Letterman's top10 automotive moments
% Ford still has not seriously upgraded the Focus EV since that 2011 stage ride % http://www.autonews.com/article/20150518/BLOG06/150519889/celebrating-david-lettermans-top-10-automotive-moments Celebrating David Letterman's top 10 automotive moments nnaughton @crain.com May 18, 2015 [image http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/storyimage/CA/20150518/BLOG06/150519889/AR/0/AR-150519889.jpg Ford CEO Alan Mulally and David Letterman talked about Ford's electric car plans. / CBS videos https://youtu.be/OZe5Mi0Vuuw Bob Lutz on the Chevy Volt General Motors Jun 2, 2009 Bob Lutz talks about the Volt with Dave Letterman https://youtu.be/vxBKG_9hQUE Elon Musk takes a Letterman Slap 2014 Oct 14 21:48 cst Sergei Romanoff Oct 14, 2014 Will David Letterman apologize? https://youtu.be/jKgalEqEBNo Ford'sCEO&ElectricCar (Letterman) Joy & Peace of Living Aug 9, 2011 ] David Letterman’s professed passion for cars may not be on a par with that of his former late-night TV rival, Jay Leno. But Letterman, whose final “Late Show” airs Wednesday night, is quite a car buff, keeping his collection hidden away, a CBS spokesman says. And Letterman -- whose Top Ten List is a nightly segment -- featured plenty of automotive follies during his 22 seasons as host of the CBS show. In honor of his farewell show, we count down his top 10 automotive moments ... 9. Dave talks to Bob Lutz about the Chevrolet Volt [pih]. Lutz tells Letterman all about the Volt in 2009, when the prototype of the plug-in hybrid was produced. Highlight: An electrifying encounter with the Volt around 5:40 ... 7. Dave pokes fun at Tesla and self-driving cars. Letterman shows what happens when he takes his foot off the accelerator and lets go of the steering wheel. Highlight: Audience silence when Letterman admits to driving an electric car ... 5. Dave, with Alan Mulally, drives Ford’s first all-electric vehicle across the “Late Night” stage. Ford’s CEO tells Letterman about the company’s all-electric Focus, and they go for a quick spin. Highlight: “Put your seat belt on, Dave!” Honorable mention: Ever-cautious, Letterman is sure to use his turn signal when turning out onto the stage ... [© Crain Communications] For EVLN posts use: http://evdl.org/evln/ http://www.freep.com/story/money/2015/05/19/tesla-consumers-reports-review/27571405/ Tesla's response to CR's 'undriveable' review http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3089842/The-war-kill-driving-Uber-s-secret-lab-autonomous-car-project-revealed-bid-Google-Apple.html Uber's secret auton-EV-lab revealed in bid to take on Google&Apple http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/mumbai/iit-bombay-team-unveils-electric-racing-car/article7216205.ece IIT Bombay team unveils electric racing car http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/dynamic/02409/09b9fa5e_2409072f.jpg http://www.midwestenergynews.com/2015/05/13/minnesota-agency-aims-to-expand-workplace-ev-charging/ Minnesota agency aims to expand workplace EV charging http://www.nwitimes.com/business/columnists/gerry-dick/inside-indiana-business/article_b1764b56-b82d-5f9b-9927-8478dd8928e7.html Columbia Club's 1st L2 EVSE @Monument Circle in Indianapolis IN + EVLN: Team Uber Qik Breaks Coast2Coast Records LA<->NY In 58Hrs&55Min {brucedp.150m.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Plugins-were-three-of-David-Letterman-s-top10-automotive-moments-tp4675709.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EVLN: Team Uber Qik 2EVs Breaks Coast2Coast Records LA<
http://insideevs.com/team-uber-qik-breaks-two-electric-vehicle-coast-to-coast-world-records-la-to-ny-in-58-hours-55-minutes/ Team Uber Qik Breaks Two Electric Vehicle Coast-to-Coast World Records – LA To NY In 58 Hours & 55 Minutes [20150518] by Mark Kane [images http://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/11187223_10153226063316352_462503143205521295_o.jpg http://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/10818311_10153173127781352_3649595677244110531_o-350x467.jpg http://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/11175034_10153182218016352_4355537450204117272_n.jpg http://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/11053133_10153173127746352_7262071103195794973_n.jpg http://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/10922312_10152942552781352_7414438177590979231_o-750x563.jpg http://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/11178268_10153182218001352_4141255011154031426_n.jpg video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMK3Y5Gd16k Tesla P85D Coast To Coast NEW World Record CR Construction May 14, 2015 Team Über Qik drives P85D Coast to Coast in a record time of 58 hours and 55 minutes. Twitter @EVrecordAttempt ] Team Uber Qik raised the bar for coast-to-coast journey in an electric car. Drivers Rodney Hawk, Deena Mastracci and Carl Reese drove from Los Angeles City Hall on April 16 to New York City Hall on April 19 in 58 hours and 55 minutes setting a new unofficial record for Guinness Book of World Records. Of course they used a Tesla Model S (the latest P85D version), moving from Supercharger to Supercharger along the way. This is currently the only solution to set a new record, as no other electric car has range and infrastructure properly covered. They set also a second record for least charging time in an EV at 12 hours and 48 minutes. “Accompanied by witnesses and timekeepers, Anthony Alvarado, Matt Nordenstrom and Johnnie Oberg, Jr., Team Uber Qik, led by Reese, broke the previous EV U.S. coast-to-coast time record of 67 hours and 21 minutes set by a team from Edmunds.com in summer 2014. While the team broke two records during this trip, Guinness only recognizes the “least non-driving time to cross the U.S. in an electric vehicle,” meaning the shortest amount of charging time. The team logged just 12 hours and 48 minutes plugged in at Tesla’s growing network of supercharging stations conveniently located along major freeways and free to use for all Tesla owners.“ Carl Reese of Santa Clarita, California said: “I was inspired by my grandfather who took me on road trips as a child and Alex Roy who broke the cross-country record in a gasoline vehicle in 2006. Tesla is such a compelling car company that is creating tens of thousands of American jobs, with Tesla Motors in Fremont, California, Giga Factory in Sparks, Nevada, and Space X in Hawthorne, California.” Team Uber Qik was sponsored by global fleet tracking company GPS Insight, as well as by InspectMobile.com, TeslaGrille.com and Chalkolot.com. [© insideevs.com] http://www.autoblog.com/2015/05/19/tesla-model-s-goes-coast-to-coast-in-58-hours-including-charge/ Tesla Model S goes coast-to-coast in 58 hours (including charge times) May 19th 2015 Danny King [image http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-shared/dims3/GLOB/crop/1024x576+0+100/resize/800x450!/format/jpg/quality/85/http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/b6be5879844a77d8442bb58afa568870/202012585/CEbczIdUUAA7MAt.jpg_large.jpg ] Old Record Beaten By About Eight Hours I see you, Edmunds.com, and I raise you about eight hours. Not to put too fine a point on it (this reporter once worked for Edmunds and has nothing against them whatsoever) but that publication's record-setting cross-country trip in a Tesla Model S last year just got taken down. By a solid work day. Drivers Rodney Hawk, Deena Mastracci and Carl Reese recently took their electric vehicle from Los Angeles to New York City and finished the trip about five minutes short of 59 hours, according to Hybrid Cars. Impressively, the trio spent less than 13 hours recharging the vehicle, meaning that about 46 hours were spent behind the wheel. With about 2,800 miles separating the two cities, that means the gents had an average speed of 60 miles per hour. Quite civilized, actually. The trio, which called themselves Team Über Qiq, posted their progress on Twitter. Last year, Edmunds did a similar trip in 67 hours and 21 minutes, with more than 14 hours spent recharging. Of course, this year's team had the advantage of a more robust Supercharger network, meaning that the trio could put the hammer down with a little more impunity that their forbearers with a little less range anxiety. AutoblogGreen was part of a cross-country diesel trip last year that finished in about 47 hours, so we can guess how tired the Tesla drivers felt at the end of the trip. [© autoblog.com] For EVLN posts use: http://evdl.org/evln/ http://www.freep.com/story/money/2015/05/19/tesla-consumers-reports-review/27571405/ Tesla's response to CR's 'undriveable' r
[EVDL] Tesla-S70D, The car of the century, now updated with more power & AWD
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2015-tesla-model-s-70d-instrumented-test-review The car of the century, now updated with more power and AWD. May 2015 By DON SHERMAN [images / MICHAEL SIMARI http://media.caranddriver.com/images/15q2/657948/2015-tesla-model-s-70d-instrumented-test-review-car-and-driver-photo-658384-s-429x262.jpg 2015 Tesla Model S 70D http://media.caranddriver.com/images/media/51/2015-tesla-model-s-70d-inline1-photo-659079-s-original.jpg http://media.caranddriver.com/images/media/51/2015-tesla-model-s-70d-inline3-photo-659081-s-original.jpg http://media.caranddriver.com/images/media/51/2015-tesla-model-s-70d-inline4-photo-659082-s-original.jpg ] Instrumented Test Tesla made history with the introduction of its Model S sports sedan two-plus years ago, prompting approbation from car critics far and wide. This was the breakthrough electric car the world had seemingly been waiting for, offering attractive design, a remarkable interior, and entertaining performance. The price—starting at about $60,000 before the $7500 federal kickback—was far beyond the average household’s reach, and range anxiety will always be a concern for any pure electric, but the S was a refreshing interpretation of just how super a modern supersedan could be. The recent expansion of the lineup to provide four distinct Model S, er, models warrants an award grander than the 10Best Cars recognition we bestowed upon the S earlier this year: our nomination for “Car of the 21st Century” honors. Combining the aforementioned virtues with significant new features and a modest increase in price makes the Tesla Model S 70D reviewed here the new ultimate in four-door sedan engineering and technology. It’s worth noting that the 70D replaces the Model S 60 that picked up our 10Best accolade as the entry-level version. “D” signifies dual-motor all-wheel drive; the only RWD Model S available now is the 85. The 70D Rundown As with the rest of its Model S lineup mates, the 70D has mostly aluminum body and chassis construction, a battery pack built into the floor, comfortable seating for five (or up to seven with the optional jump seats), and attractive interior and exterior design. The huge, 17-inch touch screen providing navigation, entertainment, and car information and control functionality still smiles congenially from the center of the dash. The big news here is a pair of 257-hp (Tesla’s before-the-transmission rating, the post-gearbox rating is 329 combined horsepower) AC motors driving all four wheels and a base price of $76,200 before federal tax credits. A 70-kWh battery provides an EPA-rated 240-mile driving range; your results will vary. Compared with the Signature Performance (P85) rear-driver we tested more than two years ago, the new 70D is 177 pounds lighter and delivers slightly poorer accelerating, braking, and cornering performance. That said, it consumed less energy, achieved a higher top speed, and is a bit quieter during acceleration and cruising. A major plus is the extra confidence in adverse weather conditions provided by the 70D’s all-wheel drive. (It improves in nearly all areas save for weight versus the now-defunct, rear-drive Model S 60 we tested.) Nearly 10 percent of our test car’s $83,950 bottom line was attributable to optional embellishments: 19-inch wheels and tires ($2500), nicer seats ($2500), metallic paint ($1000), special wood interior trim ($750), and a cold-weather package ($1000). Crunching the Numbers Comparing this 70D to Mercedes-Benz’s shot at world’s-best-sedan honors—the S550 S-class—is revealing. In rear-drive form, the Mercedes has a slight edge in acceleration and braking. The Tesla ties in cornering grip and wins in top speed. The S550 provides more passenger room but with a less hospitable center-rear seating position and only about 45 percent of the Model S’s cargo space, which is divided between front and rear trunks. The greatest difference between these epic rivals is price: The base S550 costs $95,325 and crowds $100K with 4MATIC all-wheel drive, versus $83,950 (again, before state and federal rebates) for the Model S 70D tested here. Of course, the money you’ll likely need to invest upgrading your home and/or office wiring for the fastest battery charging narrows the Tesla’s dollar advantage. Nearly everyone who taps the accelerator in any Tesla Model S to enjoy the amusement-park surge becomes an instant electric-car convert. In raw numbers, this is the ability to jump from 30 to 50 mph in two seconds flat, and from 50 to 70 in 3.1 seconds with neither hesitation nor a gearchange (the 449-hp RWD Mercedes S550 achieves these tasks in 2.9 and 3.4 seconds). Then the reality sets in. To fully embrace any electric car, some lifestyle rearranging is necessary. Spur-of-the-moment trips are unwise. The next plug-in opportunity is always at the forefront of your consciousness. Speeding up when you’re running late may force an unplanned stop for a jolt of juice. Instrum
[EVDL] EVent: EVSE Workshops @5:30-7:30p on 5/27 Ukiah-CA & 6/3 Willits-CA
% Place L2 CT4000 dual EVSE which allows power sharing, 1st along Hwy5 in areas where there is an EVSE gap. Afterward, install along Hwy 1. Lastly, install in cities that want eco-tourism revenue % http://www.willitsnews.com/events/20150520/community-events-for-may-20 Community Events ... 05/20/15 May 27 ... Ukiah-Plug-In Electric Vehicle Charging Station Workshop: 5:30-7:30 p.m. at Mendocino County Veterans Memorial Building at 293 Seminary Ave. The public is invited to discuss the location of charging station sites. Visit MendocinoCOG.org ... June 3 ... Plug-In Electric Vehicle Charging Station Workshop: 5:30-7:30 p.m. City of Willits, City Council Chambers, 111 E. Commercial St. See May 27 ... [© willitsnews.com] ... http://www.afdc.energy.gov/locator/stations/results?location=95482&fuel=ELEC Nearby EVSE ... https://goo.gl/maps/sfT5J (map) 293 Seminary Ave Ukiah, CA 95482 ... https://goo.gl/maps/J2tYp (map) 111 E Commercial St Willits, CA 95490 http://www.mendocinocog.org/ Plug-in Electric Vehicle Charging Stations in Mendocino County MCOG is hosting a series of community forums to hear input on locations identified in the ZEV Regional Readiness Plan [ http://www.mendocinocog.org/pdf/ZEV/Mendocino%20County%20ZEV%20Regional%20Readiness%20Plan-accepted%208-19-2013.pdf ]: Point Arena - May 26 Ukiah - May 27 Fort Bragg - June 2 Willits - June 3 Boonville - June 10 Flyer [ http://www.mendocinocog.org/pdf/ZEV/Community%20Forums%20-%20PEV%20Charging%20Stations-flyer5-5-2015.pdf ] Map of proposed sites [ http://www.mendocinocog.org/pdf/ZEV/Map%20from%20Mendocino%20County%20ZEV%20Regional%20Readiness%20Plan-accepted%208-19-2013.pdf ] Plan with appendices [ http://www.mendocinocog.org/pdf/ZEV/Mendocino%20County%20ZEV%20Regional%20Readiness%20Plan-accepted%208-19-2013.pdf ] (6.6 MB) For EVLN posts use: http://evdl.org/evln/ {brucedp.150m.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVent-EVSE-Workshops-5-30-7-30p-on-5-27-Ukiah-CA-6-3-Willits-CA-tp4675715.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] $10k bounty on Tesla-S hacks entices tinkerers, aggravates Tesla
Yes, the article that had a blurb on the original post was about an app that uses the existing API. Tesla has no problem with that. There was also a link to a story about the $10k hacking contest. This is totally different. The goal of that contest is to gain unauthorized access to a Tesla you don't own. Presumably it isn't that easy to do that - at least we all hope. I'm sure that Tesla has gone to some length to prevent something like that from happening. Tesla probably does use code signing for the code that runs on their central computer system. That would certainly make sense. But, there isn't any need to break that in order to hack the car. Historically, CANbus traffic has not been too terribly well secured. I can personally attest to this. ;) The center console computer in the Tesla has 6 CANbus links. It's possible to get at all of them from a diagnostic connector right there in the center of the dash. Chances are those buses are not that terribly secure. The biggest reason they haven't been attacked is that far more hackers are comfortable with wifi, ethernet, and computer tampering than are comfortable with CAN. The Tesla does have some protection against attacks that would target the drive train. For one, the accelerator pedal goes straight to the inverter so there is likely no way to command the car to take off without the pedal being pressed. Likewise, the inverter knows the state of the brake pedal from digital inputs so that can't be spoofed by comm traffic either. That's a reasonably old-school way to protect the car but it could be fairly effective. -Collin On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Mike Nickerson via EV wrote: > In this specific case, the facts don't line up with the hype and the > headlines. The "Tesla hacks" haven't modified the vehicles at all. The > application is using the same API that the smart phone apps use. That allows > the program to unlock doors, open the sunroof, turn on the AC, and collect > data on location and battery state. Not exactly much of a modification. > > If Tesla is smart, they have implemented code signing on their execution code > so they can detect and reject unauthorized changes. We even do that for > laser printer code. I'm sure that Tesla would do that with the code that > runs a high performance car. > > Mike > > > On May 20, 2015 7:37:33 PM MDT, Alan Arrison via EV wrote: >>I am surprised that auto makers haven't locked down their systems with >>encryption. >>If they haven't yet they probably will if for no other reason than >>liability issues. >> >>Al >> >>On 5/20/2015 4:50 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: >>> >>> Every since the first cars rolled out of factories, owners have been >>> modifying them to suit their own personal needs and tastes. With the >>> extensive computer controls used in modern cars, people are now >>finding a >>> different way to do that. >>> >>> Certain Tesla Model S owners are giving their cars upgrades, but >>instead of >>> changing tires, brake calipers, or paint jobs, they’re changing >>software. >>> >>> >> >>___ >>UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >>http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >>For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA >>(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] zero s 2011, repair manual
I'm wanting to do an add on battery pack, and would like to find out how theres controller/ dc to dc is intgrated with the battery pack? Whats the voltage of the pack etc.. is the bms in th battery box, etc.. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GenZe e-bicycle has the same batteries as a Tesla-S EV
I thought Tesla used Panasonic batteries. On 5/22/2015 5:38 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: GenZe's e-bike models use the same Samsung batteries as the Tesla Model S to help supplement your pedaling. The battery is actually removable, so you can take it out of the bike and charge it at work with a cord about the size of your laptop charger. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GenZe e-bicycle has the same batteries as a Tesla-S EV
I think your are right, but who really knows? It is all anecdotal to us mere mortals. Probably they are the same size. I don't think Panasonic and Samsung are using the same chemistry, and I think Samsung is not at the same levels of quality, etc. It could all be different tomorrow. On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 10:42 PM, Alan Arrison via EV wrote: > I thought Tesla used Panasonic batteries. > > > On 5/22/2015 5:38 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > >> GenZe's e-bike models use the same Samsung batteries as the Tesla Model S >> to >> help supplement your pedaling. The battery is actually removable, so you >> can >> take it out of the bike and charge it at work with a cord about the size >> of >> your laptop charger. >> > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edison <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html> A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 585-6737 Land (919) 576-0824 <https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones> Google Phone (919) 631-1451 Cell michael.e.r...@gmail.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150522/8ed084b5/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)