Re: [EVDL] EVLN: KRW1M portable L2 3kW EVSE w/ RFID&3G for Seoul.kr outlets

2015-05-16 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
My thoughts, too.  Might work better if the dongle were actually a 
credit card reader and you had to swipe to activite - like Square.  Not 
as convenient but it passes the security problem on to someone else.


Peri

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Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: KRW1M portable L2 3kW EVSE w/ RFID&3G for 
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The article implies that most of the security is built into the dongle 
that is paid for by the EV owner.
What is to prevent a person from paying a bit more for a hacked dongle? 
What is to prevent a person from just plugging in directly?


The concept sounds interesting, but the security sounds like is need a 
little bit more thought, at least as the system is described by the 
article.


Bill D.

On 5/16/2015 2:53 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:

On 16 May 2015 at 0:25, brucedp5 via EV wrote:


The EV-Line charges at about 3.3 kilowatts per hour ...

Palm, meet face.

Kilowatts per hour makes as much sense as horsepower per microsecond.

Perhaps the reporter, Yewon Kang, wasn't paying attention in science 
class.


The chargers are an intriguing idea, though.  Shame they're so feeble.
(That would be 3.3 KILOWATTS.  Or if you want to sound confused while 
being

technically correct, 3.3 kilowatt hours per hour.)

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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: KRW1M portable L2 3kW EVSE w/ RFID&3G for Seoul.kr outlets

2015-05-16 Thread Bill Dube via EV
The article implies that most of the security is built into the dongle 
that is paid for by the EV owner.
What is to prevent a person from paying a bit more for a hacked dongle? 
What is to prevent a person from just plugging in directly?


The concept sounds interesting, but the security sounds like is need a 
little bit more thought, at least as the system is described by the article.


Bill D.

On 5/16/2015 2:53 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:

On 16 May 2015 at 0:25, brucedp5 via EV wrote:


The EV-Line charges at about 3.3 kilowatts per hour ...

Palm, meet face.

Kilowatts per hour makes as much sense as horsepower per microsecond.

Perhaps the reporter, Yewon Kang, wasn't paying attention in science class.

The chargers are an intriguing idea, though.  Shame they're so feeble.
(That would be 3.3 KILOWATTS.  Or if you want to sound confused while being
technically correct, 3.3 kilowatt hours per hour.)

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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: KRW1M portable L2 3kW EVSE w/ RFID&3G for Seoul.kr outlets

2015-05-16 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 16 May 2015 at 0:25, brucedp5 via EV wrote:

> The EV-Line charges at about 3.3 kilowatts per hour ...

Palm, meet face.

Kilowatts per hour makes as much sense as horsepower per microsecond.

Perhaps the reporter, Yewon Kang, wasn't paying attention in science class.

The chargers are an intriguing idea, though.  Shame they're so feeble.  
(That would be 3.3 KILOWATTS.  Or if you want to sound confused while being 
technically correct, 3.3 kilowatt hours per hour.)

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