Re: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails
Check that you have applied SP2 for Office 2007. We had the same issue here (email body being blank) and SP2 helped. On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote: Anyone else see an issue with Outlook 2007 where if you click on a folder it can take up to 30 seconds for the pane to populate with the emails? Not just the inbox, but when you open folders in a personal folder as well? Also seeing occasions where if you try to open an email, sometimes it comes up with the body being blank? Not running cached mode. If this is occurring when accessing personal folders it doesn't seem to me like it's an Exchange server issue then, is it? Paul --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails
1 - I believe a mix of both. Properties on one says 97-2002 Personal Folder, the other simply says, Personal Folder. 2 - Yes, it's at SP2. 3 - 4GB 4 - The disks are 5400 RPM. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Oh yeah - how old are the PSTs? Are they ANSI or old-style? Is Outlook at sp2, at least? How much memory is on the computer? Are the disks faster than 5,400 RPM? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Define large. (No comments from the peanut gallery, please) User mailbox is at 9.5MB with 1,443 items User has (2) psts, 900MB and 345MB. These don't seem too out of line to me. -Paul -Original Message- From: gro...@beachcomp.com [mailto:gro...@beachcomp.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Been seeing that on 7 and 10 since release, on multiple machines. It simply can NOT handle large OST/PST files. I have 8 PSTs, 22 email accounts and it brings Outlook to a crawl. -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Anyone else see an issue with Outlook 2007 where if you click on a folder it can take up to 30 seconds for the pane to populate with the emails? Not just the inbox, but when you open folders in a personal folder as well? Also seeing occasions where if you try to open an email, sometimes it comes up with the body being blank? Not running cached mode. If this is occurring when accessing personal folders it doesn't seem to me like it's an Exchange server issue then, is it? Paul --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails
Sorry, Exchange 2003 Enterprise SP2. Will check on the other. Thanks! -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails So...did you tell us the Exchange version? Run exmon plus perfmon or similar on the Exchange server to see what's going on and run perfmon on the client machine and capture all the Outlook stats to see what's going on. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails He's using a standard Messages with Autopreview. Not using any custom views that we've found. -Paul -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails How many custom views do you have? By default, Exchange only has 11 that it stores per mailbox. If you have more than that, Exchange will have to rebuild the view each time you visit another folder. (Don't ask me how they came up with that number, I don't know.) So...you either change the number of views that Exchange stores per mailbox (it's a registry parameter for MsExchangeIS, I'd have to look it up [i.e., Google it - which you can do too! :-)]) - which has both a processor overhead and a disk space overhead, reduce the number of items in the folders, or uh, I forgot. Oh yeah. Get rid of some custom views. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Anyone else see an issue with Outlook 2007 where if you click on a folder it can take up to 30 seconds for the pane to populate with the emails? Not just the inbox, but when you open folders in a personal folder as well? Also seeing occasions where if you try to open an email, sometimes it comes up with the body being blank? Not running cached mode. If this is occurring when accessing personal folders it doesn't seem to me like it's an Exchange server issue then, is it? Paul --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails
Yeah, you want to upgrade the 97-2002 PSTs. 5400 RPM is slow; even for desktops. But the SP2 and 4GB are good. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails 1 - I believe a mix of both. Properties on one says 97-2002 Personal Folder, the other simply says, Personal Folder. 2 - Yes, it's at SP2. 3 - 4GB 4 - The disks are 5400 RPM. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Oh yeah - how old are the PSTs? Are they ANSI or old-style? Is Outlook at sp2, at least? How much memory is on the computer? Are the disks faster than 5,400 RPM? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Define large. (No comments from the peanut gallery, please) User mailbox is at 9.5MB with 1,443 items User has (2) psts, 900MB and 345MB. These don't seem too out of line to me. -Paul -Original Message- From: gro...@beachcomp.com [mailto:gro...@beachcomp.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Been seeing that on 7 and 10 since release, on multiple machines. It simply can NOT handle large OST/PST files. I have 8 PSTs, 22 email accounts and it brings Outlook to a crawl. -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Anyone else see an issue with Outlook 2007 where if you click on a folder it can take up to 30 seconds for the pane to populate with the emails? Not just the inbox, but when you open folders in a personal folder as well? Also seeing occasions where if you try to open an email, sometimes it comes up with the body being blank? Not running cached mode. If this is occurring when accessing personal folders it doesn't seem to me like it's an Exchange server issue then, is it? Paul --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails
Outlook shows that it is running SP2. From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Check that you have applied SP2 for Office 2007. We had the same issue here (email body being blank) and SP2 helped. On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote: Anyone else see an issue with Outlook 2007 where if you click on a folder it can take up to 30 seconds for the pane to populate with the emails? Not just the inbox, but when you open folders in a personal folder as well? Also seeing occasions where if you try to open an email, sometimes it comes up with the body being blank? Not running cached mode. If this is occurring when accessing personal folders it doesn't seem to me like it's an Exchange server issue then, is it? Paul --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails
Is there an upgrade path or do you create new ones and move items over? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Yeah, you want to upgrade the 97-2002 PSTs. 5400 RPM is slow; even for desktops. But the SP2 and 4GB are good. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails 1 - I believe a mix of both. Properties on one says 97-2002 Personal Folder, the other simply says, Personal Folder. 2 - Yes, it's at SP2. 3 - 4GB 4 - The disks are 5400 RPM. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Oh yeah - how old are the PSTs? Are they ANSI or old-style? Is Outlook at sp2, at least? How much memory is on the computer? Are the disks faster than 5,400 RPM? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Define large. (No comments from the peanut gallery, please) User mailbox is at 9.5MB with 1,443 items User has (2) psts, 900MB and 345MB. These don't seem too out of line to me. -Paul -Original Message- From: gro...@beachcomp.com [mailto:gro...@beachcomp.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Been seeing that on 7 and 10 since release, on multiple machines. It simply can NOT handle large OST/PST files. I have 8 PSTs, 22 email accounts and it brings Outlook to a crawl. -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Anyone else see an issue with Outlook 2007 where if you click on a folder it can take up to 30 seconds for the pane to populate with the emails? Not just the inbox, but when you open folders in a personal folder as well? Also seeing occasions where if you try to open an email, sometimes it comes up with the body being blank? Not running cached mode. If this is occurring when accessing personal folders it doesn't seem to me like it's an Exchange server issue then, is it? Paul --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook-help/convert-a-non-unicode-data-fi le-pst-to-a-unicode-data-file-pst-HP001038351.aspx Webster -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Is there an upgrade path or do you create new ones and move items over? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Yeah, you want to upgrade the 97-2002 PSTs. 5400 RPM is slow; even for desktops. But the SP2 and 4GB are good. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails
Export to PST. :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Is there an upgrade path or do you create new ones and move items over? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Yeah, you want to upgrade the 97-2002 PSTs. 5400 RPM is slow; even for desktops. But the SP2 and 4GB are good. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails 1 - I believe a mix of both. Properties on one says 97-2002 Personal Folder, the other simply says, Personal Folder. 2 - Yes, it's at SP2. 3 - 4GB 4 - The disks are 5400 RPM. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Oh yeah - how old are the PSTs? Are they ANSI or old-style? Is Outlook at sp2, at least? How much memory is on the computer? Are the disks faster than 5,400 RPM? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Define large. (No comments from the peanut gallery, please) User mailbox is at 9.5MB with 1,443 items User has (2) psts, 900MB and 345MB. These don't seem too out of line to me. -Paul -Original Message- From: gro...@beachcomp.com [mailto:gro...@beachcomp.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Been seeing that on 7 and 10 since release, on multiple machines. It simply can NOT handle large OST/PST files. I have 8 PSTs, 22 email accounts and it brings Outlook to a crawl. -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Anyone else see an issue with Outlook 2007 where if you click on a folder it can take up to 30 seconds for the pane to populate with the emails? Not just the inbox, but when you open folders in a personal folder as well? Also seeing occasions where if you try to open an email, sometimes it comes up with the body being blank? Not running cached mode. If this is occurring when accessing personal folders it doesn't seem to me like it's an Exchange server issue then, is it? Paul --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails
Thanks. I figured that was the case. -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook-help/convert-a-non-unicode-dat a-fi le-pst-to-a-unicode-data-file-pst-HP001038351.aspx Webster -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Is there an upgrade path or do you create new ones and move items over? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Yeah, you want to upgrade the 97-2002 PSTs. 5400 RPM is slow; even for desktops. But the SP2 and 4GB are good. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails
Thanks everyone. We'll see what this does. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Export to PST. :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Is there an upgrade path or do you create new ones and move items over? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Yeah, you want to upgrade the 97-2002 PSTs. 5400 RPM is slow; even for desktops. But the SP2 and 4GB are good. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails 1 - I believe a mix of both. Properties on one says 97-2002 Personal Folder, the other simply says, Personal Folder. 2 - Yes, it's at SP2. 3 - 4GB 4 - The disks are 5400 RPM. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Oh yeah - how old are the PSTs? Are they ANSI or old-style? Is Outlook at sp2, at least? How much memory is on the computer? Are the disks faster than 5,400 RPM? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Define large. (No comments from the peanut gallery, please) User mailbox is at 9.5MB with 1,443 items User has (2) psts, 900MB and 345MB. These don't seem too out of line to me. -Paul -Original Message- From: gro...@beachcomp.com [mailto:gro...@beachcomp.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Been seeing that on 7 and 10 since release, on multiple machines. It simply can NOT handle large OST/PST files. I have 8 PSTs, 22 email accounts and it brings Outlook to a crawl. -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Anyone else see an issue with Outlook 2007 where if you click on a folder it can take up to 30 seconds for the pane to populate with the emails? Not just the inbox, but when you open folders in a personal folder as well? Also seeing occasions where if you try to open an email, sometimes it comes up with the body being blank? Not running cached mode. If this is occurring when accessing personal folders it doesn't seem to me like it's an Exchange server issue then, is it? Paul --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt
OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails
Anyone else see an issue with Outlook 2007 where if you click on a folder it can take up to 30 seconds for the pane to populate with the emails? Not just the inbox, but when you open folders in a personal folder as well? Also seeing occasions where if you try to open an email, sometimes it comes up with the body being blank? Not running cached mode. If this is occurring when accessing personal folders it doesn't seem to me like it's an Exchange server issue then, is it? Paul --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails
Been seeing that on 7 and 10 since release, on multiple machines. It simply can NOT handle large OST/PST files. I have 8 PSTs, 22 email accounts and it brings Outlook to a crawl. -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Anyone else see an issue with Outlook 2007 where if you click on a folder it can take up to 30 seconds for the pane to populate with the emails? Not just the inbox, but when you open folders in a personal folder as well? Also seeing occasions where if you try to open an email, sometimes it comes up with the body being blank? Not running cached mode. If this is occurring when accessing personal folders it doesn't seem to me like it's an Exchange server issue then, is it? Paul --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails
What are you talking about? My primary Exchange account is 9.8 GB; my secondary Exchange account is 2.6 GB; and I also either POP or IMAP 11 other accounts. Outlook 2010 handles it perfectly. Outlook 2007 sp2 and above handled it perfectly well (with the exception that the secondary Exchange account was IMAP instead of MAPI). You need to investigate your performance issue better. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: gro...@beachcomp.com [mailto:gro...@beachcomp.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Been seeing that on 7 and 10 since release, on multiple machines. It simply can NOT handle large OST/PST files. I have 8 PSTs, 22 email accounts and it brings Outlook to a crawl. -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Anyone else see an issue with Outlook 2007 where if you click on a folder it can take up to 30 seconds for the pane to populate with the emails? Not just the inbox, but when you open folders in a personal folder as well? Also seeing occasions where if you try to open an email, sometimes it comes up with the body being blank? Not running cached mode. If this is occurring when accessing personal folders it doesn't seem to me like it's an Exchange server issue then, is it? Paul --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails
How many custom views do you have? By default, Exchange only has 11 that it stores per mailbox. If you have more than that, Exchange will have to rebuild the view each time you visit another folder. (Don't ask me how they came up with that number, I don't know.) So...you either change the number of views that Exchange stores per mailbox (it's a registry parameter for MsExchangeIS, I'd have to look it up [i.e., Google it - which you can do too! :-)]) - which has both a processor overhead and a disk space overhead, reduce the number of items in the folders, or uh, I forgot. Oh yeah. Get rid of some custom views. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Anyone else see an issue with Outlook 2007 where if you click on a folder it can take up to 30 seconds for the pane to populate with the emails? Not just the inbox, but when you open folders in a personal folder as well? Also seeing occasions where if you try to open an email, sometimes it comes up with the body being blank? Not running cached mode. If this is occurring when accessing personal folders it doesn't seem to me like it's an Exchange server issue then, is it? Paul --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails
Define large. (No comments from the peanut gallery, please) User mailbox is at 9.5MB with 1,443 items User has (2) psts, 900MB and 345MB. These don't seem too out of line to me. -Paul -Original Message- From: gro...@beachcomp.com [mailto:gro...@beachcomp.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Been seeing that on 7 and 10 since release, on multiple machines. It simply can NOT handle large OST/PST files. I have 8 PSTs, 22 email accounts and it brings Outlook to a crawl. -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Anyone else see an issue with Outlook 2007 where if you click on a folder it can take up to 30 seconds for the pane to populate with the emails? Not just the inbox, but when you open folders in a personal folder as well? Also seeing occasions where if you try to open an email, sometimes it comes up with the body being blank? Not running cached mode. If this is occurring when accessing personal folders it doesn't seem to me like it's an Exchange server issue then, is it? Paul --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails
Oh yeah - how old are the PSTs? Are they ANSI or old-style? Is Outlook at sp2, at least? How much memory is on the computer? Are the disks faster than 5,400 RPM? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Define large. (No comments from the peanut gallery, please) User mailbox is at 9.5MB with 1,443 items User has (2) psts, 900MB and 345MB. These don't seem too out of line to me. -Paul -Original Message- From: gro...@beachcomp.com [mailto:gro...@beachcomp.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Been seeing that on 7 and 10 since release, on multiple machines. It simply can NOT handle large OST/PST files. I have 8 PSTs, 22 email accounts and it brings Outlook to a crawl. -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Anyone else see an issue with Outlook 2007 where if you click on a folder it can take up to 30 seconds for the pane to populate with the emails? Not just the inbox, but when you open folders in a personal folder as well? Also seeing occasions where if you try to open an email, sometimes it comes up with the body being blank? Not running cached mode. If this is occurring when accessing personal folders it doesn't seem to me like it's an Exchange server issue then, is it? Paul --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails
He's using a standard Messages with Autopreview. Not using any custom views that we've found. -Paul -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails How many custom views do you have? By default, Exchange only has 11 that it stores per mailbox. If you have more than that, Exchange will have to rebuild the view each time you visit another folder. (Don't ask me how they came up with that number, I don't know.) So...you either change the number of views that Exchange stores per mailbox (it's a registry parameter for MsExchangeIS, I'd have to look it up [i.e., Google it - which you can do too! :-)]) - which has both a processor overhead and a disk space overhead, reduce the number of items in the folders, or uh, I forgot. Oh yeah. Get rid of some custom views. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Anyone else see an issue with Outlook 2007 where if you click on a folder it can take up to 30 seconds for the pane to populate with the emails? Not just the inbox, but when you open folders in a personal folder as well? Also seeing occasions where if you try to open an email, sometimes it comes up with the body being blank? Not running cached mode. If this is occurring when accessing personal folders it doesn't seem to me like it's an Exchange server issue then, is it? Paul --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails
So...did you tell us the Exchange version? Run exmon plus perfmon or similar on the Exchange server to see what's going on and run perfmon on the client machine and capture all the Outlook stats to see what's going on. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails He's using a standard Messages with Autopreview. Not using any custom views that we've found. -Paul -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails How many custom views do you have? By default, Exchange only has 11 that it stores per mailbox. If you have more than that, Exchange will have to rebuild the view each time you visit another folder. (Don't ask me how they came up with that number, I don't know.) So...you either change the number of views that Exchange stores per mailbox (it's a registry parameter for MsExchangeIS, I'd have to look it up [i.e., Google it - which you can do too! :-)]) - which has both a processor overhead and a disk space overhead, reduce the number of items in the folders, or uh, I forgot. Oh yeah. Get rid of some custom views. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Anyone else see an issue with Outlook 2007 where if you click on a folder it can take up to 30 seconds for the pane to populate with the emails? Not just the inbox, but when you open folders in a personal folder as well? Also seeing occasions where if you try to open an email, sometimes it comes up with the body being blank? Not running cached mode. If this is occurring when accessing personal folders it doesn't seem to me like it's an Exchange server issue then, is it? Paul --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails
By default, Exchange only has 11 that it stores per mailbox. If you have more than that, Exchange will have to rebuild the view each time you visit another folder. (Don't ask me how they came up with that number, I don't know.) Surely a Spinal Tap reference. -Jeff Steward On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: How many custom views do you have? By default, Exchange only has 11 that it stores per mailbox. If you have more than that, Exchange will have to rebuild the view each time you visit another folder. (Don't ask me how they came up with that number, I don't know.) So...you either change the number of views that Exchange stores per mailbox (it's a registry parameter for MsExchangeIS, I'd have to look it up [i.e., Google it - which you can do too! :-)]) - which has both a processor overhead and a disk space overhead, reduce the number of items in the folders, or uh, I forgot. Oh yeah. Get rid of some custom views. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 5:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT? Outlook 2007 slow to show panes, emails Anyone else see an issue with Outlook 2007 where if you click on a folder it can take up to 30 seconds for the pane to populate with the emails? Not just the inbox, but when you open folders in a personal folder as well? Also seeing occasions where if you try to open an email, sometimes it comes up with the body being blank? Not running cached mode. If this is occurring when accessing personal folders it doesn't seem to me like it's an Exchange server issue then, is it? Paul --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
