[FairfieldLife] "There is no God"

2017-09-08 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
4 min lecture by OSHO: "There is no God"
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31WdaBusl2Q 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31WdaBusl2Q
 

 Jai Sakyamuni Buddha


Re: [FairfieldLife] 'There is no God'

2014-09-27 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
In transcendent meditation;
 In the early years of his teaching, Maharishi used “Being” as a synonym for 
Brahman. More recently the term “unified field,” drawn from physics, has taken 
over that role. Consciousness, understood not as thought but as pure unmediated 
awareness, is roughly equivalent to Atman. Enlightenment, or liberation, comes 
from the experiential realization of the non-dual state in which Atman and 
Brahman (consciousness and the unified field) are one. Maharishi starts with 
this basic understanding, often expressed in scientific-sounding language, and 
develops his scheme of spiritual evolution from it. [Lowe 2014]
 

 Science and meditation have certainly come a long ways from the Himalaya 
Mountains,
 -Buck in the Dome
 

 turquoiseb wrote :
 
 Well, having penned my obligatory First Button-Pushing Post Of The Week to 
give the Barry-haters something to feed on :-), I am free to write more 
seriously about this whole belief in God / atheism thang. Be warned. 

 

 I am always fascinated when a believer trots out the "well, the atheists can't 
PROVE that there is no God" argument. It always reminds me of "The Emperor's 
New Clothes." The believers are all gaga about this new suit of clothes they 
believe exists, and this non-believer pipes up and says, "Hey guys...just LOOK. 
There ain't no suit of clothes (God). This guy is butt nekkid." 
 

 In the fable, the brainwashed believers get the message, and wake up. In 
modern life, it's more likely that the believers would start shouting 
"Atheist!!! Non-believer in the Holy Garment!!" and try to run the kid out of 
town or burn him at the stake. :-)
   


 From: "Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]"
   Barry usually stops posting at about 20:00±1 hour GMT. 

True. At that point Barry either goes out to spend the evening with friends, or 
watches TV or a movie, or does both at the same time. :-)

So I will pipe in until he returns to the light of European day. There are 
three scenarios: 
 
 the universe created itself
 the universe did not create itself
 the universe is here, but was never created in the first place 
 (And because we are here, it probably is not true that it never existed in the 
first place.)

As you know, I'm a fan of Door Number Three -- the universe was never 
created...it is currently present, both in its manifest and unmanifest forms, 
has always been present, and always will be present. Therefore there is no need 
to postulate a "first creation" because one never took place. Since there was 
no "first creation," there is also no need to postulate a "Creator."  (more 
below)  

 

 We do not know why the universe is here, or how it came to be, we have certain 
scenarios that correspond to observation. We have books written in the past 
that tell us things about the beginning of the universe, but these books have 
no supporting evidence. The beginning of the universe is something of a 
mystery. Logic cannot be applied until there are some ideas and facts to reason 
with. A beginning which has not been directly observed has no real facts to 
argue upon. 
 

 Looked at from a spiritual viewpoint, it is also a mystery. If, for example, 
being is an eternal present, there is no past and the universe cannot have been 
created, even though it is here now, and were this to be an 'experience' 
resulting from spiritual practices revolving around the concept of 
consciousness, we also have a problem in that there is nothing to test, because 
the only fact is first person, and cannot be experienced by another awareness, 
there is only a person's description of that experience, there are no direct 
facts. Further, being is often described as being 'undefined', that is, we give 
names to it, but these are simply tokens, not the actual being, so we are 
logically manipulating tokens, and logic cannot touch the real thing, were it 
to be this way. If being is regarded as transcendental, then it is beyond the 
manipulation of logic and its conclusions.
 

 Science assumes for the present the universe had a beginning based on various 
factors relating to the background black body radiation, cosmology, general 
relativity and quantum mechanics. What came before that scientifically, if 
there was a before, is unknown. If you have ever seen Hawking's eyes, they are 
clear and without anguish. Atheism is not necessarily the result of anger, most 
atheism is simply the lack of belief in fairy tales that seem to lack evidence 
and appear ridiculous in the light of common sense. Atheism is basically the 
absence of certain ways some people look at and understand their lives. In its 
place is another way but it is not somehow empty or removed from meaning. I do 
not have a belief in the tooth fairy even though when I was very young this 
myth seemed to have reality. That that belief is no longer a reality does not 
result in anger or disappointment; other experiences more than made up for the 
revelation that the story 

[FairfieldLife] There is no God.

2012-12-12 Thread salyavin808


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCL4dXUtblg