[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha at the Gas Pump - 158. Fr. Thomas Keating

2013-02-07 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> Yeah, I got to go up to Spencer Mass and be part of checking the brothers 
> meditations and giving advanced lectures on meditation and TM back in the 
> days.  Was an exciting time in American spirituality.  Those were heady times 
> in TM and also watching the start of the whole centering prayer movement.  
> Church Monasticism was pretty stuck up and barbaric in its ways but changing 
> then because of openings in the larger church waged by Merton and others 
> earlier.   There was an extraordinary group of particular brothers around Fr. 
> Keating within the monastery there who were highly knowledgeable and excited 
> from looking at writings of Mysticism within and then outside of their own 
> traditions.  They could see the descriptions and that they did not have the 
> practices needed to achieve the experiences so they went specifically looking 
> surveying what was out there in the spiritual practice parketplace.  It was a 
> heady time.TM itself was evidently too proprietary and confined for them 
> to be helpful working with inside their church.  But the training and the 
> effortless aspect of TM became central to what they picked up  with, co-opted 
> and went on with in to something that could be taught to parishioners more 
> universally.  They've had a huge and successful impact on American 
> spirituality even spilling over in to Protestant faiths with their 
> instruction.  That is history and Fr. Keating was one of the men of it.  He 
> and the guys he was with took the ball and really ran with it.  As a team 
> they've played a good game.

Yes, they did. The monastery out in Snowmass was sublime. The monks working the 
farm and tending the sheep by day in their jeans and flannel shirts and then 
attending services/mass in their monastic garb was wonderful to see. Witnessing 
the devotions and chanting in the little chapel were some of the most spiritual 
and deep experiences I have ever had. They seemed to have combined something 
sacredly ancient with something very relevant to the present for me back in 
1987-88.  And the sense of community and brotherhood was very strong there 
along with the depth of commitment to God, to spiritual and personal growth and 
to deep inner and outer devotion to Him and to his creation.

> -Buck in the Dome
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > What an extraordinary man. How wonderful that you interviewed him. He was a 
> > huge part in the healing process for many of my friends when they moved 
> > forward from their time in "the context" with Robin back in the mid 1980's. 
> > I spent time at the monastery as well, a stunning place in Snowmass 
> > Colorado. Father Keating was a vital part in the transition for these 
> > people from pain and suffering to becoming productive and healthy 
> > individuals again. I will watch this interview with great interest. I have 
> > not seen Keating for 26 years.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > >
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> > > New post on Buddha at the Gas Pump 
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> > >   158. Fr. Thomas Keating
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> > > by   Rick 
> > > 
> > > Fr. Thomas Keating is a founding member and the spiritual guide of   
> > > Contemplative Outreach, LTD. He has served on Contemplative Outreach's 
> > > Board of Trustees since the organization's beginning and is currently 
> > > serving as the Chairman of the Board. Fr. Keating is one of the principal 
> > > architects and teachers of the Christian contemplative prayer movement 
> > > and, in many ways, Contemplative Outreach is a manifestation of his 
> > > longtime desire to contribute to the recovery of the contemplative 
> > > dimension of Christianity.
> > > 
> > > Fr. Keating's interest in contemplative prayer began during his freshman 
> > > year at Yale University in 1940 when he became aware of the Church's 
> > > history and of the writings of Christian mystics. Prompted by these 
> > > studies and time spent in prayer and meditation, he experienced a 
> > > profound realization that, on a spiritual level, the Scriptures call 
> > > people to a personal relationship with God. Fr. Keating took this call to 
> > > heart. He transferred to Fordham University in New York and, while 
> > > waiting to be drafted for service in World War II, he received a 
> > > deferment to enter seminary. Shortly after graduating from an accelerated 
> > > program at Fordham, Fr. Keating entered an austere monastic community of 
> > > the Trappist Order in Valley Falls, Rhode Island in January of 1944, at 
> > > the age of 20. He was ordained a priest in June of 1949.
> > > 
> > >In March of 1950 the monastery in Valley Falls burned down and, as a 
> > > result, the community moved to Spencer, Massachusetts. Shortly af

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha at the Gas Pump - 158. Fr. Thomas Keating

2013-02-07 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
> >
> > I just finished reading Bill Howell's CULT, I know it took me long
> > time, but I did not read it continuously, it wasn't on the top of my
> > agenda.
> >
> > I must say that I was very touched by the last chapter, before the
> > epilogue, called 'Desert' (p. 308), I was touched by the reunion of
> > Caitlin and Matthew especially, the story how they came back to life
> > from believing to be 'evil' or without human soul is heartbreaking.
>
>

Now THAT is funny.  :-)

The "Twilight" series as cult. I always thought it was a polemic on
abstinence. Then again, many cults go in for that, too.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha at the Gas Pump - 158. Fr. Thomas Keating

2013-02-07 Thread seventhray27


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
>
> I just finished reading Bill Howell's CULT, I know it took me long
time, but I did not read it continuously, it wasn't on the top of my
agenda.
>
> I must say that I was very touched by the last chapter, before the
epilogue, called 'Desert' (p. 308), I was touched by the reunion of
Caitlin and Matthew especially, the story how they came back to life
from believing to be 'evil' or without human soul is heartbreaking.




>
> From all of what I have read, Bill Howell seems to be sincerely
narrating things as they were happening, his motivation does not in any
way seem to be revenge or anger, but to help people get out of similar
desperate situations. I also believe that the conclusions he draws make
sense.
>
> The book has its lengths, for somebody not being part of it, it goes a
bit too much into details, telling every bodies story more or less, but
that last chapter before the epilogue, 'UNGRASPING THE LIGHT THAT CASTS
SHADOWS Chapter 19 Desert' is just superb, it brought me to tears. It is
just amazing what kind of drama is revealed in the book, going much
beyond what we knew here, but I won't get into it, I don't want to stir
up all the mud here once again. I hope everybody gets his peace about it
finally, and of course Ann, you have been part of it, so you know the
story much better than I do.
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote:
> >
> > What an extraordinary man. How wonderful that you interviewed him.
He was a huge part in the healing process for many of my friends when
they moved forward from their time in "the context" with Robin back in
the mid 1980's. I spent time at the monastery as well, a stunning place
in Snowmass Colorado. Father Keating was a vital part in the transition
for these people from pain and suffering to becoming productive and
healthy individuals again. I will watch this interview with great
interest. I have not seen Keating for 26 years.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > New post on Buddha at the Gas Pump
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 158. Fr. Thomas Keating
> > >
> > >
> > > by Rick
> > >
> > > Fr. Thomas Keating is a founding member and the spiritual guide of
Contemplative Outreach, LTD. He has served on Contemplative Outreach's
Board of Trustees since the organization's beginning and is currently
serving as the Chairman of the Board. Fr. Keating is one of the
principal architects and teachers of the Christian contemplative prayer
movement and, in many ways, Contemplative Outreach is a manifestation of
his longtime desire to contribute to the recovery of the contemplative
dimension of Christianity.
> > >
> > > Fr. Keating's interest in contemplative prayer began during his
freshman year at Yale University in 1940 when he became aware of the
Church's history and of the writings of Christian mystics. Prompted by
these studies and time spent in prayer and meditation, he experienced a
profound realization that, on a spiritual level, the Scriptures call
people to a personal relationship with God. Fr. Keating took this call
to heart. He transferred to Fordham University in New York and, while
waiting to be drafted for service in World War II, he received a
deferment to enter seminary. Shortly after graduating from an
accelerated program at Fordham, Fr. Keating entered an austere monastic
community of the Trappist Order in Valley Falls, Rhode Island in January
of 1944, at the age of 20. He was ordained a priest in June of 1949.
> > >
> > > In March of 1950 the monastery in Valley Falls burned down and, as
a result, the community moved to Spencer, Massachusetts. Shortly after
the move, Fr. Keating became ill with a lung condition and was put into
isolation in the city hospital of Worcester, Massachusetts for nine
weeks. After returning to the monastery, he stayed in the infirmary for
two years. Fr. Keating was sent to Snowmass, Colorado in April of 1958
to help start a new monastic community called St. Benedict's. He
remained in Snowmass until 1961, when he was elected abbot of St.
Joseph's in Spencer, prompting his move back to Massachusetts. He served
as abbot of St. Joseph's for twenty years until he retired in 1981 and
returned to Snowmass, where he still resides today.
> > >
> > > During Fr. Keating's term as abbot at St. Joseph's and in response
to the reforms of Vatican II, he invited teachers from the East to the
monastery. As a result of this exposure to Eastern spiritual traditions,
Fr. Keating and several of the monks at St. Joseph's were led to develop
the modern form of Christian contemplative prayer called Centering
Prayer. Fr. Keating was a central figure in the initiation of the
Centering Prayer movement. He offered Centering Prayer workshops and
retreats to clergy and laypeople and authored articles and books on the
method and fruits of Cen

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha at the Gas Pump - 158. Fr. Thomas Keating

2013-02-07 Thread navashok
I just finished reading Bill Howell's CULT, I know it took me long time, but I 
did not read it continuously, it wasn't on the top of my agenda. 

I must say that I was very touched by the last chapter, before the epilogue, 
called 'Desert' (p. 308), I was touched by the reunion of Caitlin and Matthew 
especially, the story how they came back to life from believing to be 'evil' or 
without human soul is heartbreaking.

>From all of what I have read, Bill Howell seems to be sincerely narrating 
>things as they were happening, his motivation does not in any way seem to be 
>revenge or anger, but to help people get out of similar desperate situations. 
>I also believe that the conclusions he draws make sense. 

The book has its lengths, for somebody not being part of it, it goes a bit too 
much into details, telling every bodies story more or less, but that last 
chapter before the epilogue, 'UNGRASPING THE LIGHT THAT CASTS SHADOWS Chapter 
19 Desert' is just superb, it brought me to tears. It is just amazing what kind 
of drama is revealed in the book, going much beyond what we knew here, but I 
won't get into it, I don't want to stir up all the mud here once again. I hope 
everybody gets his peace about it finally, and of course Ann, you have been 
part of it, so you know the story much better than I do.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> What an extraordinary man. How wonderful that you interviewed him. He was a 
> huge part in the healing process for many of my friends when they moved 
> forward from their time in "the context" with Robin back in the mid 1980's. I 
> spent time at the monastery as well, a stunning place in Snowmass Colorado. 
> Father Keating was a vital part in the transition for these people from pain 
> and suffering to becoming productive and healthy individuals again. I will 
> watch this interview with great interest. I have not seen Keating for 26 
> years.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > New post on Buddha at the Gas Pump 
> > 
> >
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> >   158. Fr. Thomas Keating
> > 
> > 
> > by   Rick 
> > 
> > Fr. Thomas Keating is a founding member and the spiritual guide of   
> > Contemplative Outreach, LTD. He has served on Contemplative Outreach's 
> > Board of Trustees since the organization's beginning and is currently 
> > serving as the Chairman of the Board. Fr. Keating is one of the principal 
> > architects and teachers of the Christian contemplative prayer movement and, 
> > in many ways, Contemplative Outreach is a manifestation of his longtime 
> > desire to contribute to the recovery of the contemplative dimension of 
> > Christianity.
> > 
> > Fr. Keating's interest in contemplative prayer began during his freshman 
> > year at Yale University in 1940 when he became aware of the Church's 
> > history and of the writings of Christian mystics. Prompted by these studies 
> > and time spent in prayer and meditation, he experienced a profound 
> > realization that, on a spiritual level, the Scriptures call people to a 
> > personal relationship with God. Fr. Keating took this call to heart. He 
> > transferred to Fordham University in New York and, while waiting to be 
> > drafted for service in World War II, he received a deferment to enter 
> > seminary. Shortly after graduating from an accelerated program at Fordham, 
> > Fr. Keating entered an austere monastic community of the Trappist Order in 
> > Valley Falls, Rhode Island in January of 1944, at the age of 20. He was 
> > ordained a priest in June of 1949.
> > 
> >In March of 1950 the monastery in Valley Falls burned down and, as a 
> > result, the community moved to Spencer, Massachusetts. Shortly after the 
> > move, Fr. Keating became ill with a lung condition and was put into 
> > isolation in the city hospital of Worcester, Massachusetts for nine weeks. 
> > After returning to the monastery, he stayed in the infirmary for two years. 
> > Fr. Keating was sent to Snowmass, Colorado in April of 1958 to help start a 
> > new monastic community called St. Benedict's. He remained in Snowmass until 
> > 1961, when he was elected abbot of St. Joseph's in Spencer, prompting his 
> > move back to Massachusetts. He served as abbot of St. Joseph's for twenty 
> > years until he retired in 1981 and returned to Snowmass, where he still 
> > resides today.
> > 
> > During Fr. Keating's term as abbot at St. Joseph's and in response to the 
> > reforms of Vatican II, he invited teachers from the East to the monastery. 
> > As a result of this exposure to Eastern spiritual traditions, Fr. Keating 
> > and several of the monks at St. Joseph's were led to develop the modern 
> > form of Christian contemplative prayer called Centering Prayer. Fr. Keating 
> > was a central figure in the initiation of the Centering Prayer movement. He 
> > offered Centering Prayer wo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha at the Gas Pump - 158. Fr. Thomas Keating

2013-02-07 Thread Buck
Yeah, I got to go up to Spencer Mass and be part of checking the brothers 
meditations and giving advanced lectures on meditation and TM back in the days. 
 Was an exciting time in American spirituality.  Those were heady times in TM 
and also watching the start of the whole centering prayer movement.  Church 
Monasticism was pretty stuck up and barbaric in its ways but changing then 
because of openings in the larger church waged by Merton and others earlier.   
There was an extraordinary group of particular brothers around Fr. Keating 
within the monastery there who were highly knowledgeable and excited from 
looking at writings of Mysticism within and then outside of their own 
traditions.  They could see the descriptions and that they did not have the 
practices needed to achieve the experiences so they went specifically looking 
surveying what was out there in the spiritual practice parketplace.  It was a 
heady time.TM itself was evidently too proprietary and confined for them to 
be helpful working with inside their church.  But the training and the 
effortless aspect of TM became central to what they picked up  with, co-opted 
and went on with in to something that could be taught to parishioners more 
universally.  They've had a huge and successful impact on American spirituality 
even spilling over in to Protestant faiths with their instruction.  That is 
history and Fr. Keating was one of the men of it.  He and the guys he was with 
took the ball and really ran with it.  As a team they've played a good game.  
-Buck in the Dome

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> What an extraordinary man. How wonderful that you interviewed him. He was a 
> huge part in the healing process for many of my friends when they moved 
> forward from their time in "the context" with Robin back in the mid 1980's. I 
> spent time at the monastery as well, a stunning place in Snowmass Colorado. 
> Father Keating was a vital part in the transition for these people from pain 
> and suffering to becoming productive and healthy individuals again. I will 
> watch this interview with great interest. I have not seen Keating for 26 
> years.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > New post on Buddha at the Gas Pump 
> > 
> >
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> >   158. Fr. Thomas Keating
> > 
> > 
> > by   Rick 
> > 
> > Fr. Thomas Keating is a founding member and the spiritual guide of   
> > Contemplative Outreach, LTD. He has served on Contemplative Outreach's 
> > Board of Trustees since the organization's beginning and is currently 
> > serving as the Chairman of the Board. Fr. Keating is one of the principal 
> > architects and teachers of the Christian contemplative prayer movement and, 
> > in many ways, Contemplative Outreach is a manifestation of his longtime 
> > desire to contribute to the recovery of the contemplative dimension of 
> > Christianity.
> > 
> > Fr. Keating's interest in contemplative prayer began during his freshman 
> > year at Yale University in 1940 when he became aware of the Church's 
> > history and of the writings of Christian mystics. Prompted by these studies 
> > and time spent in prayer and meditation, he experienced a profound 
> > realization that, on a spiritual level, the Scriptures call people to a 
> > personal relationship with God. Fr. Keating took this call to heart. He 
> > transferred to Fordham University in New York and, while waiting to be 
> > drafted for service in World War II, he received a deferment to enter 
> > seminary. Shortly after graduating from an accelerated program at Fordham, 
> > Fr. Keating entered an austere monastic community of the Trappist Order in 
> > Valley Falls, Rhode Island in January of 1944, at the age of 20. He was 
> > ordained a priest in June of 1949.
> > 
> >In March of 1950 the monastery in Valley Falls burned down and, as a 
> > result, the community moved to Spencer, Massachusetts. Shortly after the 
> > move, Fr. Keating became ill with a lung condition and was put into 
> > isolation in the city hospital of Worcester, Massachusetts for nine weeks. 
> > After returning to the monastery, he stayed in the infirmary for two years. 
> > Fr. Keating was sent to Snowmass, Colorado in April of 1958 to help start a 
> > new monastic community called St. Benedict's. He remained in Snowmass until 
> > 1961, when he was elected abbot of St. Joseph's in Spencer, prompting his 
> > move back to Massachusetts. He served as abbot of St. Joseph's for twenty 
> > years until he retired in 1981 and returned to Snowmass, where he still 
> > resides today.
> > 
> > During Fr. Keating's term as abbot at St. Joseph's and in response to the 
> > reforms of Vatican II, he invited teachers from the East to the monastery. 
> > As a result of this exposure to Eastern spiritual traditions, Fr. Keating 
> > and several of the m

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha at the Gas Pump - 158. Fr. Thomas Keating

2013-02-06 Thread Ann
What an extraordinary man. How wonderful that you interviewed him. He was a 
huge part in the healing process for many of my friends when they moved forward 
from their time in "the context" with Robin back in the mid 1980's. I spent 
time at the monastery as well, a stunning place in Snowmass Colorado. Father 
Keating was a vital part in the transition for these people from pain and 
suffering to becoming productive and healthy individuals again. I will watch 
this interview with great interest. I have not seen Keating for 26 years.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
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> New post on Buddha at the Gas Pump 
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>   158. Fr. Thomas Keating
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> by   Rick 
> 
> Fr. Thomas Keating is a founding member and the spiritual guide of   
> Contemplative Outreach, LTD. He has served on Contemplative Outreach's Board 
> of Trustees since the organization's beginning and is currently serving as 
> the Chairman of the Board. Fr. Keating is one of the principal architects and 
> teachers of the Christian contemplative prayer movement and, in many ways, 
> Contemplative Outreach is a manifestation of his longtime desire to 
> contribute to the recovery of the contemplative dimension of Christianity.
> 
> Fr. Keating's interest in contemplative prayer began during his freshman year 
> at Yale University in 1940 when he became aware of the Church's history and 
> of the writings of Christian mystics. Prompted by these studies and time 
> spent in prayer and meditation, he experienced a profound realization that, 
> on a spiritual level, the Scriptures call people to a personal relationship 
> with God. Fr. Keating took this call to heart. He transferred to Fordham 
> University in New York and, while waiting to be drafted for service in World 
> War II, he received a deferment to enter seminary. Shortly after graduating 
> from an accelerated program at Fordham, Fr. Keating entered an austere 
> monastic community of the Trappist Order in Valley Falls, Rhode Island in 
> January of 1944, at the age of 20. He was ordained a priest in June of 1949.
> 
>In March of 1950 the monastery in Valley Falls burned down and, as a 
> result, the community moved to Spencer, Massachusetts. Shortly after the 
> move, Fr. Keating became ill with a lung condition and was put into isolation 
> in the city hospital of Worcester, Massachusetts for nine weeks. After 
> returning to the monastery, he stayed in the infirmary for two years. Fr. 
> Keating was sent to Snowmass, Colorado in April of 1958 to help start a new 
> monastic community called St. Benedict's. He remained in Snowmass until 1961, 
> when he was elected abbot of St. Joseph's in Spencer, prompting his move back 
> to Massachusetts. He served as abbot of St. Joseph's for twenty years until 
> he retired in 1981 and returned to Snowmass, where he still resides today.
> 
> During Fr. Keating's term as abbot at St. Joseph's and in response to the 
> reforms of Vatican II, he invited teachers from the East to the monastery. As 
> a result of this exposure to Eastern spiritual traditions, Fr. Keating and 
> several of the monks at St. Joseph's were led to develop the modern form of 
> Christian contemplative prayer called Centering Prayer. Fr. Keating was a 
> central figure in the initiation of the Centering Prayer movement. He offered 
> Centering Prayer workshops and retreats to clergy and laypeople and authored 
> articles and books on the method and fruits of Centering Prayer. In 1983, he 
> presented a two-week intensive Centering Prayer retreat at the Lama 
> Foundation in San Cristabol, New Mexico, which proved to be a watershed 
> event. Many of the people prominent in the Centering Prayer movement today 
> attended this retreat. Contemplative Outreach was created in 1984 to support 
> the growing spiritual network of Centering Prayer practitioners. Fr. Keating 
> became the community's president in 1985, a position he held until 1999.
> 
> Fr. Keating is an internationally renowned theologian and an accomplished 
> author. He has traveled the world to speak with laypeople and communities 
> about contemplative Christian practices and the psychology of the spiritual 
> journey, which is the subject of his Spiritual Journey video and DVD series. 
> Since the reforms of Vatican II, Fr. Keating has been a core participant in 
> and supporter of interreligious dialogue. He helped found the Snowmass 
> Interreligious Conference, which had its first meeting in the fall of 1983 
> and continues to meet each spring. Fr. Keating also is a past president of 
> the Temple of Understanding and of the Monastic Interreligious Dialogue.
> 
> Perhaps the biggest testament to Fr. Keating's dedication to reviving 
> Christian contemplative practices is his choice to live a busy, public life 
> instead of the quiet, monastic life for which he entered the monastery. Fr. 
> Keating's life