[FairfieldLife] Re: Finding New Leadership for Old TM

2016-04-08 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
..the whole TM organization is focusing on the next generation and bringing 
them in to leadership roles. This is the focus also of the Enlightened 
Leadership International organization who with the movement is hosting a TTC 
for mostly under 40's in Bali in September and there are already over 250 
applicants.
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Millennials by culture it seems are not so malleable, though some number can 
still be religious fanatical about TM.  In tone there is a race on within TM to 
adapt some hearts and minds to what is current, one way and/or another.   
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Though look closer at this recent list someone provided of meditators who have 
passed.  It has a lot of the WW II and post-war cohort generation on it now,  
as would be expected of age 70 and 80+ year older meditators.  The earlier 
lists include more of TM boomers I and II who have passed away.  
 

 Next up to bat are Boomers I and then Boomers II, naturally.  The lists of 
meditators that are further down show what was the natural mortality of TM 
Boomers I and II too.  In any population there are people who die-off all along 
as a natural attrition.  TM’ers are no different that way.  In fact, a natural 
die-off in modern humans really accelerates once people hit 70, to where very 
very few make it to their 80’s. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We need not to get too defensive about this.  In a Natural mortality like most 
any general population of peoples TM’ers have been dying all along throughout 
their decades.  Mortality rates generally are slow and seemingly imperceptible 
early-on up through middle years.  

 

Sri writes:  There is nothing in this list to indicate TM Governors die young, 
this list does not show all the Governors, many who are alive and very old.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The Prime Minister of TM was born in 1955?
 

 Your odds of living 10 more years.. 
 if you are 45 years of age is about 24 in 25. 
 

 According to the USA Census your odds of making it ten more years if you are:
 53 years of age is about 10 in 11. 
 Your odds of living 10 years more from 60 years of age is about 5 in 6. 
 Your odds of making it 10 more years if you are 68 are about 3 in 4.  
 If you are 70 the odds are 2 in 3 that you will make it 10 more years. Age 75, 
1 in 2 will last ten more years.   Age 80, 1 in 3 you will last 10 years.   At 
age 85, 3 in 20 will make it another 10 years. 
 Age 88, 1 in 20 living at age 88 will make it another 10 years, 
 ..cumulatively, most everyone else is gone before then.
 
 
 The die-off really starts to happen from about age 60. Very few actually make 
it to be older than age 85,  most are gone on by then. 
 

 
https://sites.google.com/site/ffhamfampage/our-company/bransonanalyticsageexpectancy
 

   -JaiGuruYou
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Currently, on average FF TM'ers would be.. of the Boomer II generation,
 ..about 65-70 years of age, on average. 
 

 1994, Survey of Fairfield Adult Meditators,
 Age:
 25-35 65 10%
 36-45 391 60%
 46-55 138 21%
 > 55 47 7%
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Rates of Change.  The calculus of aging in TM.. 
 

 Some of what we can see in these mortality lists of TM'ers below is a natural 
aging-out of the Post-War Cohort, the people who were early with Maharishi in 
the very early SRM movement,  the Walter Koch and Charlie Lutes generation of 
TM. 
 

 Now what we are seeing in TM is an accelerating rate of attrition to aging-out 
of the Boomer I and Boomer II’s.  Interestingly, the cusp time period where the 
Boomers I and Boomers II met was the time frame where TM took off in popular 
(college undergrad, grad student, professor-age) culture for a time.  A lot of 
the TM movement intake happened in those years 1968-76, over the cusp of the 
Boomers I and II.  The teaching of TM virtually disappeared during the 1980's, 
1990's and first half of the 00's.  Initiations have crept upward since y-2006. 
  
 

 You can see this particular cusp of Boomers I and II in the general age span 
in the Dome meditation or at campus meetings of the TM community now.  The WWII 
generation is pretty much gone from the ranks of TM now.  The Post-War Cohort 
are pretty gone or geriatric now and the Boomers I are increasingly shuffling 
or gone on.  Boomers II are increasingly ‘in diminish’.  Time is short 
regardless.  
 

 Post-War Cohort
 Born: 1928-1945
 Coming of Age: 1946-1963
 Age in 2004: 59 to 76
 Current Population: 41 million (declining)
 

 Boomers I or The Baby Boomers
 Born: 1946-1954
 Coming of Age: 1963-1972
 Age in 2004: 50-58
 Current Population: 33 million 
 

 

 Boomers II or Generation Jones
 Born: 1955-1965
 Coming of Age: 1973-1983
 Age in 2004: 39 to 49
 Current Population: 49 million
 

 

 

 For a long time the Baby Boomers were defined as those born between 1945 and 
1964. That woul

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Finding New Leadership for Old TM

2016-04-05 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I doubt there will be any new leadership within the TMO that makes any 
significant change. Any radical changes of what *maharishi says* would be seen 
as tampering with the purity of the teaching, even if it only involved policy. 
Currently, I see the AOL as being the next step in the Holy Tradition. Sri Sri 
seems to have energized Maharishi's teaching, while Bevan et. al. have let it 
die on the vine.

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:47 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Finding New Leadership for Old TM
   
    Millennials by culture it seems are not so malleable, though some number 
can still be religious fanatical about TM.  In tone there is a race on within 
TM to adapt some hearts and minds to what is current, one way and/or another.   


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Though look closer at this recent list someone provided of meditators who have 
passed.  It has a lot of the WW II and post-war cohort generation on it now,  
as would be expected of age 70 and 80+ year older meditators.  The earlier 
lists include more of TM boomers I and II who have passed away.  
Next up to bat are Boomers I and then Boomers II, naturally.  The lists of 
meditators that are further down show what was the natural mortality of TM 
Boomers I and II too.  In any population there are people who die-off all along 
as a natural attrition.  TM’ers are no different that way.  In fact, a natural 
die-off in modern humans really accelerates once people hit 70, to where very 
very few make it to their 80’s. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

We need not to get too defensive about this.  In a Natural mortality like most 
any general population of peoples TM’ers have been dying all along throughout 
their decades.  Mortality rates generally are slow and seemingly imperceptible 
early-on up through middle years.  
Sri writes:  There is nothing in this list to indicate TM Governors die young, 
this list does not show all the Governors, many who are alive and very old.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

ThePrime Minister of TM was born in 1955?
Yourodds of living 10 more years.. if you are 45 years of age is about 24in 25. 
Accordingto the USA Census your odds of making it ten more years if you 
are:53years of age is about 10 in 11. Your odds of living 10 years more from 60 
years of age is about 5 in 6. Yourodds of making it 10 more years if you are 68 
are about 3 in 4.  Ifyou are 70 the odds are 2 in 3 that you will make it 10 
more years. Age75, 1 in 2 will last ten more years.   Age 80, 1 in 3 you will 
last 10years.   At age 85, 3 in 20 will make it another 10 years. Age 88, 1 in 
20 living at age 88 will make it another 10 years, ..cumulatively, most 
everyone else is gone before then.
Thedie-off really starts to happen from about age 60. Very few actuallymake it 
to be older than age 85,  most are gone on by then. 
https://sites.google.com/site/ffhamfampage/our-company/bransonanalyticsageexpectancy
  -JaiGuruYou

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Currently,on average FF TM'ers would be.. of the Boomer II generation,..about 
65-70 years of age, on average. 
1994,Survey of Fairfield Adult Meditators,Age:25-3565 10%36-4539160%46-55138 
21%>55 47 7%


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Rates of Change.  The calculus of aging in TM.. 
Some of what we can see in these mortality lists of TM'ers below is a natural 
aging-out of the Post-War Cohort, the people who were early with Maharishi in 
the very early SRM movement,  the Walter Koch and Charlie Lutes generation of 
TM. 
Now what we are seeing in TM is an accelerating rate of attrition to aging-out 
of the Boomer I and Boomer II’s.  Interestingly, the cusp time period where the 
Boomers I and Boomers II met was the time frame where TM took off in popular 
(college undergrad, grad student, professor-age) culture for a time.  A lot of 
the TM movement intake happened in those years 1968-76, over the cusp of the 
Boomers I and II.  The teaching of TM virtually disappeared during the 1980's, 
1990's and first half of the 00's.  Initiations have crept upward since y-2006. 
  
You can see this particular cusp of Boomers I and II in the general age span in 
the Dome meditation or at campus meetings of the TM community now.  The WWII 
generation is pretty much gone from the ranks of TM now.  The Post-War Cohort 
are pretty gone or geriatric now and the Boomers I are increasingly shuffling 
or gone on.  Boomers II are increasingly ‘in diminish’.  Time is short 
regardless.  
Post-War CohortBorn: 1928-1945Coming of Age: 1946-1963Age in 2004: 59 to 
76Current Population: 41 million (declining)
Boomers I or The Baby BoomersBorn: 1946-1954Coming of Age: 1963-1972Age in 
2004: 50-58Current Population: 33 million 

Boomers II or Generation JonesBorn: 1955-1965Coming of Age: 1973-1983A

[FairfieldLife] Re: Finding New Leadership for Old TM

2016-04-05 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Millennials by culture it seems are not so malleable, though some number can 
still be religious fanatical about TM.  In tone there is a race on within TM to 
adapt some hearts and minds to what is current, one way and/or another.   
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Though look closer at this recent list someone provided of meditators who have 
passed.  It has a lot of the WW II and post-war cohort generation on it now,  
as would be expected of age 70 and 80+ year older meditators.  The earlier 
lists include more of TM boomers I and II who have passed away.  
 

 Next up to bat are Boomers I and then Boomers II, naturally.  The lists of 
meditators that are further down show what was the natural mortality of TM 
Boomers I and II too.  In any population there are people who die-off all along 
as a natural attrition.  TM’ers are no different that way.  In fact, a natural 
die-off in modern humans really accelerates once people hit 70, to where very 
very few make it to their 80’s. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We need not to get too defensive about this.  In a Natural mortality like most 
any general population of peoples TM’ers have been dying all along throughout 
their decades.  Mortality rates generally are slow and seemingly imperceptible 
early-on up through middle years.  

 

Sri writes:  There is nothing in this list to indicate TM Governors die young, 
this list does not show all the Governors, many who are alive and very old.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The Prime Minister of TM was born in 1955?
 

 Your odds of living 10 more years.. 
 if you are 45 years of age is about 24 in 25. 
 

 According to the USA Census your odds of making it ten more years if you are:
 53 years of age is about 10 in 11. 
 Your odds of living 10 years more from 60 years of age is about 5 in 6. 
 Your odds of making it 10 more years if you are 68 are about 3 in 4.  
 If you are 70 the odds are 2 in 3 that you will make it 10 more years. Age 75, 
1 in 2 will last ten more years.   Age 80, 1 in 3 you will last 10 years.   At 
age 85, 3 in 20 will make it another 10 years. 
 Age 88, 1 in 20 living at age 88 will make it another 10 years, 
 ..cumulatively, most everyone else is gone before then.
 
 
 The die-off really starts to happen from about age 60. Very few actually make 
it to be older than age 85,  most are gone on by then. 
 

 
https://sites.google.com/site/ffhamfampage/our-company/bransonanalyticsageexpectancy
 

   -JaiGuruYou
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Currently, on average FF TM'ers would be.. of the Boomer II generation,
 ..about 65-70 years of age, on average. 
 

 1994, Survey of Fairfield Adult Meditators,
 Age:
 25-35 65 10%
 36-45 391 60%
 46-55 138 21%
 > 55 47 7%
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Rates of Change.  The calculus of aging in TM.. 
 

 Some of what we can see in these mortality lists of TM'ers below is a natural 
aging-out of the Post-War Cohort, the people who were early with Maharishi in 
the very early SRM movement,  the Walter Koch and Charlie Lutes generation of 
TM. 
 

 Now what we are seeing in TM is an accelerating rate of attrition to aging-out 
of the Boomer I and Boomer II’s.  Interestingly, the cusp time period where the 
Boomers I and Boomers II met was the time frame where TM took off in popular 
(college undergrad, grad student, professor-age) culture for a time.  A lot of 
the TM movement intake happened in those years 1968-76, over the cusp of the 
Boomers I and II.  The teaching of TM virtually disappeared during the 1980's, 
1990's and first half of the 00's.  Initiations have crept upward since y-2006. 
  
 

 You can see this particular cusp of Boomers I and II in the general age span 
in the Dome meditation or at campus meetings of the TM community now.  The WWII 
generation is pretty much gone from the ranks of TM now.  The Post-War Cohort 
are pretty gone or geriatric now and the Boomers I are increasingly shuffling 
or gone on.  Boomers II are increasingly ‘in diminish’.  Time is short 
regardless.  
 

 Post-War Cohort
 Born: 1928-1945
 Coming of Age: 1946-1963
 Age in 2004: 59 to 76
 Current Population: 41 million (declining)
 

 Boomers I or The Baby Boomers
 Born: 1946-1954
 Coming of Age: 1963-1972
 Age in 2004: 50-58
 Current Population: 33 million 
 

 

 Boomers II or Generation Jones
 Born: 1955-1965
 Coming of Age: 1973-1983
 Age in 2004: 39 to 49
 Current Population: 49 million
 

 

 

 For a long time the Baby Boomers were defined as those born between 1945 and 
1964. That would make the generation huge (71 million) and encompass people who 
were 20 years apart in age. It didn't compute to have those born in 1964 
compared with those born in 1946.
 

 http://www.socialmarketing.org/newsletter/features/generation2.htm 
http://www.socialmarketing.org/newsletter/features/generation2.htm
 

 [  For researching,
 
   Scroll further down thru 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Finding New Leadership for Old TM

2016-04-02 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I've taken to believe that baby boomers grew up on fast food and TV 
dinners (the trends of the 50's and 60's) and thus unlike the prior 
generation who had to survive the Great Depression and World War II 
wound up eating less whole food.  There has been this popular belief 
that boomers would live longer but because of those food trends I don't 
believe it's true.


And of course, TM doesn't teach Kayakalpa (the Indian longevity method 
which is actually fairly simple).


On 04/02/2016 12:25 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Though look closer at this recent list someone provided of meditators 
who have passed.  It has a lot of the WW II and post-war cohort 
generation on it now,  as would be expected of age 70 and 80+ year 
older meditators.  The earlier lists include more of TM boomers I and 
II who have passed away.



Next up to bat are Boomers I and then Boomers II, naturally.  The 
lists of meditators that are further down show what was the natural 
mortality of TM Boomers I and II too.  In any population there are 
people who die-off all along as a natural attrition.  TM’ers are no 
different that way.  In fact, a natural die-off in modern humans 
really accelerates once people hit 70, to where very very few make it 
to their 80’s.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

We need not to get too defensive about this.  In a Natural mortality 
like most any general population of peoples TM’ers have been dying all 
along throughout their decades.  Mortality rates generally are slow 
and seemingly imperceptible early-on up through middle years.



Sri writes: There is nothing in this list to indicate TM Governors die 
young, this list does not show all the Governors, many who are alive 
and very old.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

The Prime Minister of TM was born in 1955?


Your odds of living 10 more years..

if you are 45 years of age is about 24 in 25.


According to the USA Census your odds of making it ten more years if 
you are:


53 years of age is about 10 in 11.

Your odds of living 10 years more from 60 years of age is about 5 in 6.

Your odds of making it 10 more years if you are 68 are about 3 in 4.

If you are 70 the odds are 2 in 3 that you will make it 10 more years. 
Age 75, 1 in 2 will last ten more years.   Age 80, 1 in 3 you will 
last 10 years.   At age 85, 3 in 20 will make it another 10 years.


Age 88, 1 in 20 living at age 88 will make it another 10 years,

..cumulatively, most everyone else is gone before then.


The die-off really starts to happen from about age 60. Very few 
actually make it to be older than age 85,  most are gone on by then.



https://sites.google.com/site/ffhamfampage/our-company/bransonanalyticsageexpectancy


-JaiGuruYou



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Currently, on average FF TM'ers would be.. of the Boomer II generation,

..about 65-70 years of age, on average.


1994, Survey of Fairfield Adult Meditators,

*Age*:

25-35 65 10%

36-45 *391 60%*

46-55 138 21%

> 55 47 7%




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Rates of Change.  The calculus of aging in TM..


Some of what we can see in these mortality lists of TM'ers below is a 
natural aging-out of the Post-War Cohort, the people who were early 
with Maharishi in the very early SRM movement,  the Walter Koch and 
Charlie Lutes generation of TM.



Now what we are seeing in TM is an accelerating rate of attrition to 
aging-out of the Boomer I and Boomer II’s.  Interestingly, the cusp 
time period where the Boomers I and Boomers II met was the time frame 
where TM took off in popular (college undergrad, grad student, 
professor-age) culture for a time.  A lot of the TM movement intake 
happened in those years 1968-76, over the cusp of the Boomers I and 
II.  The teaching of TM virtually disappeared during the 1980's, 
1990's and first half of the 00's.  Initiations have crept upward 
since y-2006.



You can see this particular cusp of Boomers I and II in the general 
age span in the Dome meditation or at campus meetings of the TM 
community now.  The WWII generation is pretty much gone from the ranks 
of TM now.  The Post-War Cohort are pretty gone or geriatric now and 
the Boomers I are increasingly shuffling or gone on.  Boomers II are 
increasingly ‘in diminish’.  Time is short regardless.



*Post-War Cohort*

Born: 1928-1945

Coming of Age: 1946-1963

Age in 2004: 59 to 76

Current Population: 41 million (declining)


*Boomers I or The Baby Boomers*

Born: 1946-1954

Coming of Age: 1963-1972

Age in 2004: 50-58

Current Population: 33 million



*Boomers II or Generation Jones*

Born: 1955-1965

Coming of Age: 1973-1983

Age in 2004: 39 to 49

Current Population: 49 million




/For a long time the Baby Boomers were defined as those born between 
/*/1945/*/and /*/1964/*/. That would make the generation huge (71 
million) and encompass people who were 20 years apart in age. It 
didn't compute to have those born in /*/196

[FairfieldLife] Re: Finding New Leadership for Old TM

2016-04-02 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Though look closer at this recent list someone provided of meditators who have 
passed.  It has a lot of the WW II and post-war cohort generation on it now,  
as would be expected of age 70 and 80+ year older meditators.  The earlier 
lists include more of TM boomers I and II who have passed away.  
 

 Next up to bat are Boomers I and then Boomers II, naturally.  The lists of 
meditators that are further down show what was the natural mortality of TM 
Boomers I and II too.  In any population there are people who die-off all along 
as a natural attrition.  TM’ers are no different that way.  In fact, a natural 
die-off in modern humans really accelerates once people hit 70, to where very 
very few make it to their 80’s. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We need not to get too defensive about this.  In a Natural mortality like most 
any general population of peoples TM’ers have been dying all along throughout 
their decades.  Mortality rates generally are slow and seemingly imperceptible 
early-on up through middle years.  

 

Sri writes:  There is nothing in this list to indicate TM Governors die young, 
this list does not show all the Governors, many who are alive and very old.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The Prime Minister of TM was born in 1955?
 

 Your odds of living 10 more years.. 
 if you are 45 years of age is about 24 in 25. 
 

 According to the USA Census your odds of making it ten more years if you are:
 53 years of age is about 10 in 11. 
 Your odds of living 10 years more from 60 years of age is about 5 in 6. 
 Your odds of making it 10 more years if you are 68 are about 3 in 4.  
 If you are 70 the odds are 2 in 3 that you will make it 10 more years. Age 75, 
1 in 2 will last ten more years.   Age 80, 1 in 3 you will last 10 years.   At 
age 85, 3 in 20 will make it another 10 years. 
 Age 88, 1 in 20 living at age 88 will make it another 10 years, 
 ..cumulatively, most everyone else is gone before then.
 
 
 The die-off really starts to happen from about age 60. Very few actually make 
it to be older than age 85,  most are gone on by then. 
 

 
https://sites.google.com/site/ffhamfampage/our-company/bransonanalyticsageexpectancy
 

   -JaiGuruYou
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Currently, on average FF TM'ers would be.. of the Boomer II generation,
 ..about 65-70 years of age, on average. 
 

 1994, Survey of Fairfield Adult Meditators,
 Age:
 25-35 65 10%
 36-45 391 60%
 46-55 138 21%
 > 55 47 7%
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Rates of Change.  The calculus of aging in TM.. 
 

 Some of what we can see in these mortality lists of TM'ers below is a natural 
aging-out of the Post-War Cohort, the people who were early with Maharishi in 
the very early SRM movement,  the Walter Koch and Charlie Lutes generation of 
TM. 
 

 Now what we are seeing in TM is an accelerating rate of attrition to aging-out 
of the Boomer I and Boomer II’s.  Interestingly, the cusp time period where the 
Boomers I and Boomers II met was the time frame where TM took off in popular 
(college undergrad, grad student, professor-age) culture for a time.  A lot of 
the TM movement intake happened in those years 1968-76, over the cusp of the 
Boomers I and II.  The teaching of TM virtually disappeared during the 1980's, 
1990's and first half of the 00's.  Initiations have crept upward since y-2006. 
  
 

 You can see this particular cusp of Boomers I and II in the general age span 
in the Dome meditation or at campus meetings of the TM community now.  The WWII 
generation is pretty much gone from the ranks of TM now.  The Post-War Cohort 
are pretty gone or geriatric now and the Boomers I are increasingly shuffling 
or gone on.  Boomers II are increasingly ‘in diminish’.  Time is short 
regardless.  
 

 Post-War Cohort
 Born: 1928-1945
 Coming of Age: 1946-1963
 Age in 2004: 59 to 76
 Current Population: 41 million (declining)
 

 Boomers I or The Baby Boomers
 Born: 1946-1954
 Coming of Age: 1963-1972
 Age in 2004: 50-58
 Current Population: 33 million 
 

 

 Boomers II or Generation Jones
 Born: 1955-1965
 Coming of Age: 1973-1983
 Age in 2004: 39 to 49
 Current Population: 49 million
 

 

 

 For a long time the Baby Boomers were defined as those born between 1945 and 
1964. That would make the generation huge (71 million) and encompass people who 
were 20 years apart in age. It didn't compute to have those born in 1964 
compared with those born in 1946.
 

 http://www.socialmarketing.org/newsletter/features/generation2.htm 
http://www.socialmarketing.org/newsletter/features/generation2.htm
 

 [  For researching,
 
   Scroll further down thru the 'previous' posts to this thread to find other 
lists of deceased meditators,  ]
 


 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Robert Vaughn Abrams • April 13, 1949 • Seattle, WA • August 12, 1997 • North 
Carolina
 Roy Adams • February 16, 1949 • August, 1980 • California

[FairfieldLife] Re: Finding New Leadership for Old TM

2016-04-02 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
We need not to get too defensive about this.  In a Natural mortality like most 
any general population of peoples TM’ers have been dying all along throughout 
their decades.  Mortality rates generally are slow and seemingly imperceptible 
early-on up through middle years.  

 

Sri writes:  There is nothing in this list to indicate TM Governors die young, 
this list does not show all the Governors, many who are alive and very old.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The Prime Minister of TM was born in 1955?
 

 Your odds of living 10 more years.. 
 if you are 45 years of age is about 24 in 25. 
 

 According to the USA Census your odds of making it ten more years if you are:
 53 years of age is about 10 in 11. 
 Your odds of living 10 years more from 60 years of age is about 5 in 6. 
 Your odds of making it 10 more years if you are 68 are about 3 in 4.  
 If you are 70 the odds are 2 in 3 that you will make it 10 more years. Age 75, 
1 in 2 will last ten more years.   Age 80, 1 in 3 you will last 10 years.   At 
age 85, 3 in 20 will make it another 10 years. 
 Age 88, 1 in 20 living at age 88 will make it another 10 years, 
 ..cumulatively, most everyone else is gone before then.
 
 
 The die-off really starts to happen from about age 60. Very few actually make 
it to be older than age 85,  most are gone on by then. 
 

 
https://sites.google.com/site/ffhamfampage/our-company/bransonanalyticsageexpectancy
 

   -JaiGuruYou
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Currently, on average FF TM'ers would be.. of the Boomer II generation,
 ..about 65-70 years of age, on average. 
 

 1994, Survey of Fairfield Adult Meditators,
 Age:
 25-35 65 10%
 36-45 391 60%
 46-55 138 21%
 > 55 47 7%
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Rates of Change.  The calculus of aging in TM.. 
 

 Some of what we can see in these mortality lists of TM'ers below is a natural 
aging-out of the Post-War Cohort, the people who were early with Maharishi in 
the very early SRM movement,  the Walter Koch and Charlie Lutes generation of 
TM. 
 

 Now what we are seeing in TM is an accelerating rate of attrition to aging-out 
of the Boomer I and Boomer II’s.  Interestingly, the cusp time period where the 
Boomers I and Boomers II met was the time frame where TM took off in popular 
(college undergrad, grad student, professor-age) culture for a time.  A lot of 
the TM movement intake happened in those years 1968-76, over the cusp of the 
Boomers I and II.  The teaching of TM virtually disappeared during the 1980's, 
1990's and first half of the 00's.  Initiations have crept upward since y-2006. 
  
 

 You can see this particular cusp of Boomers I and II in the general age span 
in the Dome meditation or at campus meetings of the TM community now.  The WWII 
generation is pretty much gone from the ranks of TM now.  The Post-War Cohort 
are pretty gone or geriatric now and the Boomers I are increasingly shuffling 
or gone on.  Boomers II are increasingly ‘in diminish’.  Time is short 
regardless.  
 

 Post-War Cohort
 Born: 1928-1945
 Coming of Age: 1946-1963
 Age in 2004: 59 to 76
 Current Population: 41 million (declining)
 

 Boomers I or The Baby Boomers
 Born: 1946-1954
 Coming of Age: 1963-1972
 Age in 2004: 50-58
 Current Population: 33 million 
 

 

 Boomers II or Generation Jones
 Born: 1955-1965
 Coming of Age: 1973-1983
 Age in 2004: 39 to 49
 Current Population: 49 million
 

 

 

 For a long time the Baby Boomers were defined as those born between 1945 and 
1964. That would make the generation huge (71 million) and encompass people who 
were 20 years apart in age. It didn't compute to have those born in 1964 
compared with those born in 1946.
 

 http://www.socialmarketing.org/newsletter/features/generation2.htm 
http://www.socialmarketing.org/newsletter/features/generation2.htm
 

 [  For researching,
 
   Scroll further down thru the 'previous' posts to this thread to find other 
lists of deceased meditators,  ]
 


 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Robert Vaughn Abrams • April 13, 1949 • Seattle, WA • August 12, 1997 • North 
Carolina
 Roy Adams • February 16, 1949 • August, 1980 • California

 Jefferson Aikens • December, 2015 • Fairfield, Iowa

 Antoinette F. Alazraki • November 20, 1947 • July 25, 2013

 Farrokh K. Anklesaria • May 29, 1946 • Mumbai, India • June 27, 2012 • St. 
Louis, MO

 Gwenn Anderson • September 20, 1944 • February 9, 2016 • Ogden, UT
 Jean Archer • August 13, 1924 • May 30, 1989 • Ottumwa, IA



 Margaret Rose Ardussi • June 1, 1941 • Toledo, OH • December 7, 2004 • 
Belcamp, MD • Estes Park TTC

 Margaret Ashelman • December 18, 1916 • November 28, 2015 • Fairfield, Iowa



 Chris Blanchard Ayres • June 26, 1949 • August 21, 2010 • Truckee, CA



 Geoffrey Baker • June 1, 1926 • April 12, 2011 • Iowa City, Iowa



 Bruce Murray Beal • October 29, 1954 • February 9, 2010 • Massachusetts



 Robert L. Bollinger • May 22, 1950 • June 2

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Finding New Leadership for Old TM

2016-04-01 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
 An effect on morbidity with Amrit Kalash on sedentary 300lbs administrators? 

 Time will tell.
  
 Parkinson's and Amrit Kalash?  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 No, they'd just die poorer.
 
 


 From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 2:37 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Finding New Leadership for Old TM
 
 
   Would the stats change if one takes Amrit Kalash?

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The Prime Minister of TM was born in 1955?
 

 Your odds of living 10 more years.. 
 if you are 45 years of age is about 24 in 25. 
 

 According to the USA Census your odds of making it ten more years if you are:
 53 years of age is about 10 in 11. 
 Your odds of living 10 years more from 60 years of age is about 5 in 6. 
 Your odds of making it 10 more years if you are 68 are about 3 in 4.  
 If you are 70 the odds are 2 in 3 that you will make it 10 more years. Age 75, 
1 in 2 will last ten more years.   Age 80, 1 in 3 you will last 10 years.   At 
age 85, 3 in 20 will make it another 10 years. 
 Age 88, 1 in 20 living at age 88 will make it another 10 years, 
 ..cumulatively, most everyone else is gone before then.
 
 
 The die-off really starts to happen from about age 60. Very few actually make 
it to be older than age 85,  most are gone on by then. 
 

 
https://sites.google.com/site/ffhamfampage/our-company/bransonanalyticsageexpectancy
 

   -JaiGuruYou
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Currently, on average FF TM'ers would be.. of the Boomer II generation,
 ..about 65-70 years of age, on average. 
 

 1994, Survey of Fairfield Adult Meditators,
 Age:
 25-35 65 10%
 36-45 391 60%
 46-55 138 21%
 > 55 47 7%
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Rates of Change.  The calculus of aging in TM.. 
 

 Some of what we can see in these mortality lists of TM'ers below is a natural 
aging-out of the Post-War Cohort, the people who were early with Maharishi in 
the very early SRM movement,  the Walter Koch and Charlie Lutes generation of 
TM. 
 

 Now what we are seeing in TM is an accelerating rate of attrition to aging-out 
of the Boomer I and Boomer II’s.  Interestingly, the cusp time period where the 
Boomers I and Boomers II met was the time frame where TM took off in popular 
(college undergrad, grad student, professor-age) culture for a time.  A lot of 
the TM movement intake happened in those years 1968-76, over the cusp of the 
Boomers I and II.  The teaching of TM virtually disappeared during the 1980's, 
1990's and first half of the 00's.  Initiations have crept upward since y-2006. 
  
 

 You can see this particular cusp of Boomers I and II in the general age span 
in the Dome meditation or at campus meetings of the TM community now.  The WWII 
generation is pretty much gone from the ranks of TM now.  The Post-War Cohort 
are pretty gone or geriatric now and the Boomers I are increasingly shuffling 
or gone on.  Boomers II are increasingly ‘in diminish’.  Time is short 
regardless.  
 

 Post-War Cohort
 Born: 1928-1945
 Coming of Age: 1946-1963
 Age in 2004: 59 to 76
 Current Population: 41 million (declining)
 

 Boomers I or The Baby Boomers
 Born: 1946-1954
 Coming of Age: 1963-1972
 Age in 2004: 50-58
 Current Population: 33 million 
 

 

 Boomers II or Generation Jones
 Born: 1955-1965
 Coming of Age: 1973-1983
 Age in 2004: 39 to 49
 Current Population: 49 million
 

 

 

 For a long time the Baby Boomers were defined as those born between 1945 and 
1964. That would make the generation huge (71 million) and encompass people who 
were 20 years apart in age. It didn't compute to have those born in 1964 
compared with those born in 1946.
 

 http://www.socialmarketing.org/newsletter/features/generation2.htm 
http://www.socialmarketing.org/newsletter/features/generation2.htm
 

 [  For researching,
 
   Scroll further down thru the 'previous' posts to this thread to find other 
lists of deceased meditators,  ]
 


 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Robert Vaughn Abrams • April 13, 1949 • Seattle, WA • August 12, 1997 • North 
Carolina
 Roy Adams • February 16, 1949 • August, 1980 • California

 Jefferson Aikens • December, 2015 • Fairfield, Iowa

 Antoinette F. Alazraki • November 20, 1947 • July 25, 2013

 Farrokh K. Anklesaria • May 29, 1946 • Mumbai, India • June 27, 2012 • St. 
Louis, MO

 Gwenn Anderson • September 20, 1944 • February 9, 2016 • Ogden, UT
 Jean Archer • August 13, 1924 • May 30, 1989 • Ottumwa, IA



 Margaret Rose Ardussi • June 1, 1941 • Toledo, OH • December 7, 2004 • 
Belcamp, MD • Estes Park TTC

 Margaret Ashelman • December 18, 1916 • November 28, 2015 • Fairfield, Iowa



 Chris Blanchard Ayres • June 26, 1949 • August 21, 2010 • Truckee, CA



 Geoffrey Baker • June 1, 1926 • April 12, 2011 • Iowa City, Iowa



 Bruce Murray Beal • O

[FairfieldLife] Re: Finding New Leadership for Old TM

2016-03-31 Thread srijau
there is nothing in this list to indicate TM Governors die young, this list 
does not show all the Governors, many who are alive and very old.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Finding New Leadership for Old TM

2016-03-31 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
No, they'd just die poorer.


  From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 2:37 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Finding New Leadership for Old TM
   
    Would the stats change if one takes Amrit Kalash?




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

ThePrime Minister of TM was born in 1955?
Yourodds of living 10 more years.. if you are 45 years of age is about 24in 25. 
Accordingto the USA Census your odds of making it ten more years if you 
are:53years of age is about 10 in 11. Your odds of living 10 years more from 60 
years of age is about 5 in 6. Yourodds of making it 10 more years if you are 68 
are about 3 in 4.  Ifyou are 70 the odds are 2 in 3 that you will make it 10 
more years. Age75, 1 in 2 will last ten more years.   Age 80, 1 in 3 you will 
last 10years.   At age 85, 3 in 20 will make it another 10 years. Age 88, 1 in 
20 living at age 88 will make it another 10 years, ..cumulatively, most 
everyone else is gone before then.
Thedie-off really starts to happen from about age 60. Very few actuallymake it 
to be older than age 85,  most are gone on by then. 
https://sites.google.com/site/ffhamfampage/our-company/bransonanalyticsageexpectancy
  -JaiGuruYou

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Currently,on average FF TM'ers would be.. of the Boomer II generation,..about 
65-70 years of age, on average. 
1994,Survey of Fairfield Adult Meditators,Age:25-3565 10%36-4539160%46-55138 
21%>55 47 7%


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Rates of Change.  The calculus of aging in TM.. 
Some of what we can see in these mortality lists of TM'ers below is a natural 
aging-out of the Post-War Cohort, the people who were early with Maharishi in 
the very early SRM movement,  the Walter Koch and Charlie Lutes generation of 
TM. 
Now what we are seeing in TM is an accelerating rate of attrition to aging-out 
of the Boomer I and Boomer II’s.  Interestingly, the cusp time period where the 
Boomers I and Boomers II met was the time frame where TM took off in popular 
(college undergrad, grad student, professor-age) culture for a time.  A lot of 
the TM movement intake happened in those years 1968-76, over the cusp of the 
Boomers I and II.  The teaching of TM virtually disappeared during the 1980's, 
1990's and first half of the 00's.  Initiations have crept upward since y-2006. 
  
You can see this particular cusp of Boomers I and II in the general age span in 
the Dome meditation or at campus meetings of the TM community now.  The WWII 
generation is pretty much gone from the ranks of TM now.  The Post-War Cohort 
are pretty gone or geriatric now and the Boomers I are increasingly shuffling 
or gone on.  Boomers II are increasingly ‘in diminish’.  Time is short 
regardless.  
Post-War CohortBorn: 1928-1945Coming of Age: 1946-1963Age in 2004: 59 to 
76Current Population: 41 million (declining)
Boomers I or The Baby BoomersBorn: 1946-1954Coming of Age: 1963-1972Age in 
2004: 50-58Current Population: 33 million 

Boomers II or Generation JonesBorn: 1955-1965Coming of Age: 1973-1983Age in 
2004: 39 to 49Current Population: 49 million


For a long time the Baby Boomers were defined as those born between 1945 and 
1964. That would make the generation huge (71 million) and encompass people who 
were 20 years apart in age. It didn't compute to have those born in 1964 
compared with those born in 1946.
http://www.socialmarketing.org/newsletter/features/generation2.htm
[  For researching,  Scroll further down thru the 'previous' posts to this 
thread to find other lists of deceased meditators,  ]


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Robert Vaughn Abrams • April 13, 1949 • Seattle, WA • August 12, 1997 • North 
CarolinaRoy Adams • February 16, 1949 • August, 1980 • CaliforniaJefferson 
Aikens • December, 2015 • Fairfield, IowaAntoinette F. Alazraki • November 20, 
1947 • July 25, 2013Farrokh K. Anklesaria • May 29, 1946 • Mumbai, India • June 
27, 2012 • St. Louis, MOGwenn Anderson • September 20, 1944 • February 9, 2016 
• Ogden, UTJean Archer • August 13, 1924 • May 30, 1989 • Ottumwa, IAMargaret 
Rose Ardussi • June 1, 1941 • Toledo, OH • December 7, 2004 • Belcamp, MD • 
Estes Park TTCMargaret Ashelman • December 18, 1916 • November 28, 2015 • 
Fairfield, IowaChris Blanchard Ayres • June 26, 1949 • August 21, 2010 • 
Truckee, CAGeoffrey Baker • June 1, 1926 • April 12, 2011 • Iowa City, 
IowaBruce Murray Beal • October 29, 1954 • February 9, 2010 • 
MassachusettsRobert L. Bollinger • May 22, 1950 • June 22, 2014 • Fairfield, 
IowaRob Buck • October 3, 1950 • October 8, 2009 • Rochester, MNLaura Ann 
Calvert • August 24, 1949 • December 12, 2005 • Purcell, OKEdmond A. Chouinard 
• July 19, 1936 • North Adams, MA • December 2, 2004 • Providence, RIHenry 
Ogden Clark • December 29, 1944 • December 22, 2004 • Iowa City, IAJoe Clark • 
June, 1972 • North C

[FairfieldLife] Re: Finding New Leadership for Old TM

2016-03-31 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Would the stats change if one takes Amrit Kalash?
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The Prime Minister of TM was born in 1955?
 

 Your odds of living 10 more years.. 
 if you are 45 years of age is about 24 in 25. 
 

 According to the USA Census your odds of making it ten more years if you are:
 53 years of age is about 10 in 11. 
 Your odds of living 10 years more from 60 years of age is about 5 in 6. 
 Your odds of making it 10 more years if you are 68 are about 3 in 4.  
 If you are 70 the odds are 2 in 3 that you will make it 10 more years. Age 75, 
1 in 2 will last ten more years.   Age 80, 1 in 3 you will last 10 years.   At 
age 85, 3 in 20 will make it another 10 years. 
 Age 88, 1 in 20 living at age 88 will make it another 10 years, 
 ..cumulatively, most everyone else is gone before then.
 
 
 The die-off really starts to happen from about age 60. Very few actually make 
it to be older than age 85,  most are gone on by then. 
 

 
https://sites.google.com/site/ffhamfampage/our-company/bransonanalyticsageexpectancy
 

   -JaiGuruYou
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Currently, on average FF TM'ers would be.. of the Boomer II generation,
 ..about 65-70 years of age, on average. 
 

 1994, Survey of Fairfield Adult Meditators,
 Age:
 25-35 65 10%
 36-45 391 60%
 46-55 138 21%
 > 55 47 7%
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Rates of Change.  The calculus of aging in TM.. 
 

 Some of what we can see in these mortality lists of TM'ers below is a natural 
aging-out of the Post-War Cohort, the people who were early with Maharishi in 
the very early SRM movement,  the Walter Koch and Charlie Lutes generation of 
TM. 
 

 Now what we are seeing in TM is an accelerating rate of attrition to aging-out 
of the Boomer I and Boomer II’s.  Interestingly, the cusp time period where the 
Boomers I and Boomers II met was the time frame where TM took off in popular 
(college undergrad, grad student, professor-age) culture for a time.  A lot of 
the TM movement intake happened in those years 1968-76, over the cusp of the 
Boomers I and II.  The teaching of TM virtually disappeared during the 1980's, 
1990's and first half of the 00's.  Initiations have crept upward since y-2006. 
  
 

 You can see this particular cusp of Boomers I and II in the general age span 
in the Dome meditation or at campus meetings of the TM community now.  The WWII 
generation is pretty much gone from the ranks of TM now.  The Post-War Cohort 
are pretty gone or geriatric now and the Boomers I are increasingly shuffling 
or gone on.  Boomers II are increasingly ‘in diminish’.  Time is short 
regardless.  
 

 Post-War Cohort
 Born: 1928-1945
 Coming of Age: 1946-1963
 Age in 2004: 59 to 76
 Current Population: 41 million (declining)
 

 Boomers I or The Baby Boomers
 Born: 1946-1954
 Coming of Age: 1963-1972
 Age in 2004: 50-58
 Current Population: 33 million 
 

 

 Boomers II or Generation Jones
 Born: 1955-1965
 Coming of Age: 1973-1983
 Age in 2004: 39 to 49
 Current Population: 49 million
 

 

 

 For a long time the Baby Boomers were defined as those born between 1945 and 
1964. That would make the generation huge (71 million) and encompass people who 
were 20 years apart in age. It didn't compute to have those born in 1964 
compared with those born in 1946.
 

 http://www.socialmarketing.org/newsletter/features/generation2.htm 
http://www.socialmarketing.org/newsletter/features/generation2.htm
 

 [  For researching,
 
   Scroll further down thru the 'previous' posts to this thread to find other 
lists of deceased meditators,  ]
 


 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Robert Vaughn Abrams • April 13, 1949 • Seattle, WA • August 12, 1997 • North 
Carolina
 Roy Adams • February 16, 1949 • August, 1980 • California

 Jefferson Aikens • December, 2015 • Fairfield, Iowa

 Antoinette F. Alazraki • November 20, 1947 • July 25, 2013

 Farrokh K. Anklesaria • May 29, 1946 • Mumbai, India • June 27, 2012 • St. 
Louis, MO

 Gwenn Anderson • September 20, 1944 • February 9, 2016 • Ogden, UT
 Jean Archer • August 13, 1924 • May 30, 1989 • Ottumwa, IA



 Margaret Rose Ardussi • June 1, 1941 • Toledo, OH • December 7, 2004 • 
Belcamp, MD • Estes Park TTC

 Margaret Ashelman • December 18, 1916 • November 28, 2015 • Fairfield, Iowa



 Chris Blanchard Ayres • June 26, 1949 • August 21, 2010 • Truckee, CA



 Geoffrey Baker • June 1, 1926 • April 12, 2011 • Iowa City, Iowa



 Bruce Murray Beal • October 29, 1954 • February 9, 2010 • Massachusetts



 Robert L. Bollinger • May 22, 1950 • June 22, 2014 • Fairfield, Iowa



 Rob Buck • October 3, 1950 • October 8, 2009 • Rochester, MN



 Laura Ann Calvert • August 24, 1949 • December 12, 2005 • Purcell, OK



 Edmond A. Chouinard • July 19, 1936 • North Adams, MA • December 2, 2004 • 
Providence, RI

 Henry Ogden Clark • December 29, 1944 • December 22, 2004 • Iowa City, IA
 Joe Clark • June, 1972 • North Carolina