[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
>
> The more interesting chart is the inner one because it shows relatively 
> little or no significant difference in cyclones and earthquakes.
> 
> Floods, of course, will only be of concern in populated areas...and populated 
> areas increased with the increase of world population.
> 
> Also interesting is the explanation for what is included in the definition of 
> disasters.  A lot of that stuff can be ascribed to other factors than global 
> temperatures.
> 
> Anyway, none of these figures have any meaning whatsoever because:
> 
> 1)it only goes back to 1900;
> 
> 2) we don't know the breakdown of all the disasters except for the ones in 
> the inner box; and
> 
> 3) no one trusts ANY figures anymore from the fraudulent pro-global warming 
> crowd.
> 
> Everything must be recalculated because all data is tainted.
> 


The evidence for AGW is undeniable on the basis of thousands of peer-reviewed 
research papers and simple human observation. 

Like I've suggested before, either you're a willfully blind supporter of the 
profiteer corporate polluters, you're stupid or you're trolling. My bet is that 
it's a little of all three.



> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk" 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" 
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is simple and basic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Part of the scientific realities of AGW is that the
> > > > > > consequences include the abnormal and extreme weather
> > > > > > fluctuations that we see as the trend of increasing
> > > > > > global temperatures continues upward.
> > > > >
> > > > > ...but there ARE NO extreme weather fluctuations.
> > > > >
> > > > > It was all made up.
> > > >
> > > > He's referring to, among other examples, the record-setting
> > > > storm that just hit Washington--you know, the one you cited
> > > > in the post he was responding to.
> > > >
> > >
> > > That was one "extreme weather fluctuation".
> > >
> > > Are there MORE extreme weather fluctuations since the advent of global
> > warming compared to before the advent of global warming or is there less
> > or about the same?
> > >
> > 
> > Global warming may be responsible in part for some trends in natural
> > disasters such as extreme weather
> >  .
> > 
> >   [File:Trends in natural disasters.jpg] 
> >  > sasters.jpg>
> > 
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Trends_in_natural_disasters.jpg
> > 
> > 
> > Extreme weather includes weather  
> > phenomena that are at the extremes of the historical distribution,
> > especially severe or unseasonal weather
> >  .[1]
> > 
> > The World Meteorological Organization
> >  [2]
> >   and the U.S.
> > Environmental Protection Agency
> >  [3]
> >   have linked
> > increasing extreme weather events to global warming
> >  , as have Hoyos et al.
> > (2006), writing that the increasing number of category 4 and 5
> > hurricanes is directly linked to increasing temperatures.[4]
> > 
> > 
> > Similarly, Kerry Emmanuel in Nature writes that hurricane power
> > dissipation is highly correlated with temperature, reflecting global
> > warming  . Hurricane
> > modeling has produced similar results, finding that hurricanes,
> > simulated under warmer, high CO2 conditions, are more intense than under
> > present-day conditions.
> > 
> > Thomas Knutson   and Robert
> > E. Tuleya of the NOAA  greenhouse gas
> >   may lead to increasing
> > occurrence of highly destructive category-5 storms.[5]
> >   Vecchi and
> > Soden find that wind shear  ,
> > the increase of which acts to inhibit tropical cyclones
> >  , also changes in
> > model-projections of global warming. There are projected increases of
> > wind shear   in the tropical
> > Atlantic and Ea

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

[ShempMcGurk]

The more interesting chart is the inner one because it shows relatively little 
or no significant difference in cyclones and earthquakes.

Floods, of course, will only be of concern in populated areas...and populated 
areas increased with the increase of world population.

Also interesting is the explanation for what is included in the definition of 
disasters.  A lot of that stuff can be ascribed to other factors than global 
temperatures.

Anyway, none of these figures have any meaning whatsoever because:

1)it only goes back to 1900;

2) we don't know the breakdown of all the disasters except for the ones in the 
inner box; and

3) no one trusts ANY figures anymore from the fraudulent pro-global warming 
crowd.

Everything must be recalculated because all data is tainted.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk" 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk" 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > This is simple and basic.
> > > > >
> > > > > Part of the scientific realities of AGW is that the
> > > > > consequences include the abnormal and extreme weather
> > > > > fluctuations that we see as the trend of increasing
> > > > > global temperatures continues upward.
> > > >
> > > > ...but there ARE NO extreme weather fluctuations.
> > > >
> > > > It was all made up.
> > >
> > > He's referring to, among other examples, the record-setting
> > > storm that just hit Washington--you know, the one you cited
> > > in the post he was responding to.
> > >
> >
> > That was one "extreme weather fluctuation".
> >
> > Are there MORE extreme weather fluctuations since the advent of global
> warming compared to before the advent of global warming or is there less
> or about the same?
> >
> 
> Global warming may be responsible in part for some trends in natural
> disasters such as extreme weather
>  .
> 
>   [File:Trends in natural disasters.jpg] 
>  sasters.jpg>
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Trends_in_natural_disasters.jpg
> 
> 
> Extreme weather includes weather  
> phenomena that are at the extremes of the historical distribution,
> especially severe or unseasonal weather
>  .[1]
> 
> The World Meteorological Organization
>  [2]
>   and the U.S.
> Environmental Protection Agency
>  [3]
>   have linked
> increasing extreme weather events to global warming
>  , as have Hoyos et al.
> (2006), writing that the increasing number of category 4 and 5
> hurricanes is directly linked to increasing temperatures.[4]
> 
> 
> Similarly, Kerry Emmanuel in Nature writes that hurricane power
> dissipation is highly correlated with temperature, reflecting global
> warming  . Hurricane
> modeling has produced similar results, finding that hurricanes,
> simulated under warmer, high CO2 conditions, are more intense than under
> present-day conditions.
> 
> Thomas Knutson   and Robert
> E. Tuleya of the NOAA  greenhouse gas
>   may lead to increasing
> occurrence of highly destructive category-5 storms.[5]
>   Vecchi and
> Soden find that wind shear  ,
> the increase of which acts to inhibit tropical cyclones
>  , also changes in
> model-projections of global warming. There are projected increases of
> wind shear   in the tropical
> Atlantic and East Pacific associated with the deceleration of the Walker
> circulation  , as well
> as decreases of wind shear in the western and central Pacific.[6]
> 
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather
> 
> Extreme Weather Fits Global Warming Pattern 
> Drought, Flooding, Heavy Storms May Become More Frequent and Extreme as
> Climate ChangesIt seems to make no sense: Record drought, right
> next to downpours. Just this week, for example, swaths of 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk" 
wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk" 
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This is simple and basic.
> > > >
> > > > Part of the scientific realities of AGW is that the
> > > > consequences include the abnormal and extreme weather
> > > > fluctuations that we see as the trend of increasing
> > > > global temperatures continues upward.
> > >
> > > ...but there ARE NO extreme weather fluctuations.
> > >
> > > It was all made up.
> >
> > He's referring to, among other examples, the record-setting
> > storm that just hit Washington--you know, the one you cited
> > in the post he was responding to.
> >
>
> That was one "extreme weather fluctuation".
>
> Are there MORE extreme weather fluctuations since the advent of global
warming compared to before the advent of global warming or is there less
or about the same?
>

Global warming may be responsible in part for some trends in natural
disasters such as extreme weather
 .

  [File:Trends in natural disasters.jpg] 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Trends_in_natural_disasters.jpg


Extreme weather includes weather  
phenomena that are at the extremes of the historical distribution,
especially severe or unseasonal weather
 .[1]

The World Meteorological Organization
 [2]
  and the U.S.
Environmental Protection Agency
 [3]
  have linked
increasing extreme weather events to global warming
 , as have Hoyos et al.
(2006), writing that the increasing number of category 4 and 5
hurricanes is directly linked to increasing temperatures.[4]


Similarly, Kerry Emmanuel in Nature writes that hurricane power
dissipation is highly correlated with temperature, reflecting global
warming  . Hurricane
modeling has produced similar results, finding that hurricanes,
simulated under warmer, high CO2 conditions, are more intense than under
present-day conditions.

Thomas Knutson   and Robert
E. Tuleya of the NOAA  greenhouse gas
  may lead to increasing
occurrence of highly destructive category-5 storms.[5]
  Vecchi and
Soden find that wind shear  ,
the increase of which acts to inhibit tropical cyclones
 , also changes in
model-projections of global warming. There are projected increases of
wind shear   in the tropical
Atlantic and East Pacific associated with the deceleration of the Walker
circulation  , as well
as decreases of wind shear in the western and central Pacific.[6]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather

Extreme Weather Fits Global Warming Pattern 
Drought, Flooding, Heavy Storms May Become More Frequent and Extreme as
Climate ChangesIt seems to make no sense: Record drought, right
next to downpours. Just this week, for example, swaths of Arizona have
been on fire and there have been flash floods in Texas.  [flood] 
(ABCNEWS.com)


But to scientists, it does make sense.



The simple reason is that the air is getting warmer, and warmer air
holds more moisture -- so when the warmer winds sweep across wet
farmlands, they suck up more moisture drying the farms out.



And when the winds finally dump that moisture out as rain, the downpours
are much heavier.



"Suddenly you've got a gully-washer," says Kevin Trenberth, a scientist
with the National Center for Atmospheric Research, part of a research
collaboration among universities. "You've got too much water. And then
at other times you've got drier conditions, potential for drought --
associated with global warming because of this increase of water vapor
in the atmosphere."



That can translate into more rain or more snow -- as was the case this
winter in the western mountains.



Normally, more snow is good news for farms and towns below the
mountains, because three-fourths of the West's water comes 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

[ShempMcGurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > This is simple and basic. 
> > > 
> > > Part of the scientific realities of AGW is that the
> > > consequences include the abnormal and extreme weather 
> > > fluctuations that we see as the trend of increasing
> > > global temperatures continues upward.
> > 
> > ...but there ARE NO extreme weather fluctuations.  
> > 
> > It was all made up.
> 
> He's referring to, among other examples, the record-setting
> storm that just hit Washington--you know, the one you cited
> in the post he was responding to.
>

That was one "extreme weather fluctuation".

Are there MORE extreme weather fluctuations since the advent of global warming 
compared to before the advent of global warming or is there less or about the 
same?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > 
> > This is simple and basic. 
> > 
> > Part of the scientific realities of AGW is that the
> > consequences include the abnormal and extreme weather 
> > fluctuations that we see as the trend of increasing
> > global temperatures continues upward.
> 
> ...but there ARE NO extreme weather fluctuations.  
> 
> It was all made up.

He's referring to, among other examples, the record-setting
storm that just hit Washington--you know, the one you cited
in the post he was responding to.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

[ShempMcGurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> This is simple and basic. 
> 
> Part of the scientific realities of AGW is that the consequences include the 
> abnormal and extreme weather fluctuations that we see as the trend of 
> increasing global temperatures continues upward.
> 
> 



...but there ARE NO extreme weather fluctuations.  

It was all made up.

Why are you such a denier?






> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > If you want to play the anecdotal evidence game, take a gander at the
> > following.
> > 
> > Look, Bongo, nobody believes the global warming propaganda anymore:
> > temperature statistics fudged, lying about Himalayan glaciers melting,
> > bullshitting about sea levels.  The phoney evidence has been exposed for
> > all to see.
> > 
> > You should be celebrating the fact that millions won't die, John. 
> > Instead you are miserable about it.
> > 
> > Why is that?
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.weather.com/newscenter/stormwatch/
> > 
> > Storm WatchHistoric snowstorm winds down later today Chris
> > Dolce, Lead Meteorologist, The Weather Channel  Feb. 6, 2010 12:05 pm ET
> > Snow, heavy in some locations, continues to fall from West Virginia and
> > southwest Pennsylvania eastward to the Mid-Atlantic Coast. Look for the
> > snow to wind down from west to east late this afternoon and early
> > evening putting the final touches on this historic event.
> > 
> > Widespread totals of a foot to over two feet have been reported in
> > portions of southern Pennsylvania, West Virginia, northern Virginia,
> > Maryland, Delaware, southern New Jersey and the District of Columbia.
> > Localized amounts have topped 30 inches.
> > 
> > As the low pushes off the coast it will continue to strengthen which
> > will result in very strong winds near and along the coast. Gusts of 40
> > to 50 miles per hour will be likely along the coasts from the Tidewater
> > of Virginia north to the Jersey shore.
> > 
> > Snow and gusty winds will contribute to low visibilities and
> > near-blizzard conditions in some areas.
> > 
> > The winds will also serve up high surf which will lead to beach erosion
> > and areas of coastal flooding from Atlantic City southward to the
> > Carolina coast.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

[do.rflex]

This is simple and basic. 

Part of the scientific realities of AGW is that the consequences include the 
abnormal and extreme weather fluctuations that we see as the trend of 
increasing global temperatures continues upward.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
>
> 
> If you want to play the anecdotal evidence game, take a gander at the
> following.
> 
> Look, Bongo, nobody believes the global warming propaganda anymore:
> temperature statistics fudged, lying about Himalayan glaciers melting,
> bullshitting about sea levels.  The phoney evidence has been exposed for
> all to see.
> 
> You should be celebrating the fact that millions won't die, John. 
> Instead you are miserable about it.
> 
> Why is that?
> 
> 
> http://www.weather.com/newscenter/stormwatch/
> 
> Storm WatchHistoric snowstorm winds down later today Chris
> Dolce, Lead Meteorologist, The Weather Channel  Feb. 6, 2010 12:05 pm ET
> Snow, heavy in some locations, continues to fall from West Virginia and
> southwest Pennsylvania eastward to the Mid-Atlantic Coast. Look for the
> snow to wind down from west to east late this afternoon and early
> evening putting the final touches on this historic event.
> 
> Widespread totals of a foot to over two feet have been reported in
> portions of southern Pennsylvania, West Virginia, northern Virginia,
> Maryland, Delaware, southern New Jersey and the District of Columbia.
> Localized amounts have topped 30 inches.
> 
> As the low pushes off the coast it will continue to strengthen which
> will result in very strong winds near and along the coast. Gusts of 40
> to 50 miles per hour will be likely along the coasts from the Tidewater
> of Virginia north to the Jersey shore.
> 
> Snow and gusty winds will contribute to low visibilities and
> near-blizzard conditions in some areas.
> 
> The winds will also serve up high surf which will lead to beach erosion
> and areas of coastal flooding from Atlantic City southward to the
> Carolina coast.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

[BillyG]

Have those renegade icebergs reached Australia yet!!  Ha, ha 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
>
> 
> If you want to play the anecdotal evidence game, take a gander at the
> following.
> 
> Look, Bongo, nobody believes the global warming propaganda anymore:
> temperature statistics fudged, lying about Himalayan glaciers melting,
> bullshitting about sea levels.  The phoney evidence has been exposed for
> all to see.
> 
> You should be celebrating the fact that millions won't die, John. 
> Instead you are miserable about it.
> 
> Why is that?
> 
> 
> http://www.weather.com/newscenter/stormwatch/
> 
> Storm WatchHistoric snowstorm winds down later today Chris
> Dolce, Lead Meteorologist, The Weather Channel  Feb. 6, 2010 12:05 pm ET
> Snow, heavy in some locations, continues to fall from West Virginia and
> southwest Pennsylvania eastward to the Mid-Atlantic Coast. Look for the
> snow to wind down from west to east late this afternoon and early
> evening putting the final touches on this historic event.
> 
> Widespread totals of a foot to over two feet have been reported in
> portions of southern Pennsylvania, West Virginia, northern Virginia,
> Maryland, Delaware, southern New Jersey and the District of Columbia.
> Localized amounts have topped 30 inches.
> 
> As the low pushes off the coast it will continue to strengthen which
> will result in very strong winds near and along the coast. Gusts of 40
> to 50 miles per hour will be likely along the coasts from the Tidewater
> of Virginia north to the Jersey shore.
> 
> Snow and gusty winds will contribute to low visibilities and
> near-blizzard conditions in some areas.
> 
> The winds will also serve up high surf which will lead to beach erosion
> and areas of coastal flooding from Atlantic City southward to the
> Carolina coast.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tibet temperature 'highest since records began'

[ShempMcGurk]

If you want to play the anecdotal evidence game, take a gander at the
following.

Look, Bongo, nobody believes the global warming propaganda anymore:
temperature statistics fudged, lying about Himalayan glaciers melting,
bullshitting about sea levels.  The phoney evidence has been exposed for
all to see.

You should be celebrating the fact that millions won't die, John. 
Instead you are miserable about it.

Why is that?


http://www.weather.com/newscenter/stormwatch/

Storm WatchHistoric snowstorm winds down later today Chris
Dolce, Lead Meteorologist, The Weather Channel  Feb. 6, 2010 12:05 pm ET
Snow, heavy in some locations, continues to fall from West Virginia and
southwest Pennsylvania eastward to the Mid-Atlantic Coast. Look for the
snow to wind down from west to east late this afternoon and early
evening putting the final touches on this historic event.

Widespread totals of a foot to over two feet have been reported in
portions of southern Pennsylvania, West Virginia, northern Virginia,
Maryland, Delaware, southern New Jersey and the District of Columbia.
Localized amounts have topped 30 inches.

As the low pushes off the coast it will continue to strengthen which
will result in very strong winds near and along the coast. Gusts of 40
to 50 miles per hour will be likely along the coasts from the Tidewater
of Virginia north to the Jersey shore.

Snow and gusty winds will contribute to low visibilities and
near-blizzard conditions in some areas.

The winds will also serve up high surf which will lead to beach erosion
and areas of coastal flooding from Atlantic City southward to the
Carolina coast.