Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe Hebephrenic
The understatement of the century! Sal On Jun 24, 2005, at 7:46 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: He's not an intellectual and not used to thinking about or explaining complex subjects.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe Hebephrenic
All in all one of those things that make you cringe!authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> Hebephrenia is more extreme than this quote. You can> feel an attempt to explain in his speech. It is> confused because he doesn't really understand what he> is attempting to explain.Actually, I think he *does* understand whathe's attempting to explain...> He has an "intuitive" grasp> of it, but it is not yet integrated enough with his> speechbut his understanding is as integratedwith his speech as it's ever going to get.Part of the problem is his inability toput words together coherently, especiallywhen he's talking about something complex(he does poorly enough even when he's talkingabout something simple).The other part of the problem here is that he'stalking *to* somebody who he assumes doesn'thave a clue and wouldn't understand anythingbut a simplistic explanation anyway--and itends up as utter mush. You have to be able toput words together *well* before you can givea clear simplistic explanation.> > > > Look, there's a series of things that cause the > > > > --like, for example, benefits are calculated> > > > based upon the increase of wages, as opposed to> > > > the increase of prices. Some have suggested that > > > > we calculate -- the benefits will rise based> > > > upon inflation, supposed to wage increases.FWIW, the last line above has a mistranscription;it should be "as opposed to," not "supposed to."He uses "as opposed to" in the previous sentencein the same context; first he explains how benefitsare calculated now, then he describes the proposedchange in how benefits are calculated, using thesame phrasing.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe Hebephrenic
Hebephrenia is more extreme than this quote. You can feel an attempt to explain in his speech. It is confused because he doesn't really understand what he is attempting to explain. He has an "intuitive" grasp of it, but it is not yet integrated enough with his speech. This happens often with people and is why our speech is peppered with "you know" and "uhms" and "ahs". Unfortunately he happnes to be president and open to public scrutiny. He's not an intellectual and not used to thinking about or explaining complex subjects. He should do what Regan did and have others explain the nuts and bolts of complex economic policies. Being an over-educated intellectual, he drives me nuts! --- johnlasher20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would this qualify as hebephrenia certainly is word > salad > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- johnlasher20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > THIS IS NOT A JOKE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID > > > > > > > Subject: President Bush explains his Social > Security > > > Reform Proposal: > > > > > > WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: I don't really understand. > How is > > > it the new plan is > > > going to fix the problem? > > > > > > Verbatim response: > > > > > > PRESIDENT BUSH: "Because the -- all which is on > the > > > table begins to > > > address the big cost drivers. For example, how > > > benefits are calculated, > > > for example, is on the table. Whether or not > > > benefits rise based upon > > > wage increases or price increases. There's a > series > > > of parts of the > > > formula that are being considered. And when you > > > couple that, those > > > different cost drivers, affecting those -- > changing > > > those with personal > > > accounts, the idea is to get what has been > promised > > > more likely to be > > > -- or closer delivered to that has been > promised. > > > Does that make any sense to you? > > > It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of > > > things that cause the > > > --like, for example, benefits are calculated > based > > > upon the increase of > > > wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. > Some > > > have suggested that > > > we calculate -- the benefits will rise based > upon > > > inflation, supposed > > > to wage increases. There is a reform that would > help > > > solve the red if > > > that were put into effect. In other words, how > fast > > > benefits grow, how > > > fast the promised benefits grow, if those -- if > that > > > growth is > > > affected, it will help on the red." > > > > This is the President of the most powerful nation > on > > earth. It would make a great joke if it wasn't > true. > > He truly doesn't know what he is talking about, he > > only thinks he knows. A very dangerous > combination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Or go to: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Sports > > Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy > Football > > http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
--- Rory Goff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > Sutphen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > This is the President of the most powerful > nation on > > > earth. It would make a great joke if it wasn't > true. > > > He truly doesn't know what he is talking about, > he > > > only thinks he knows. A very dangerous > combination. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > um, yeah. Look in the mirror. > > Alright! I am outing this "anonymousff"! Welcome, > Byron Katie! :-) :-) Do you know that to be true? Do you know that to be absolutely true? ;-) > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
--- Rory Goff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > You mean "thing in his ear." Teleprompters are > passe, especially > during a debate (e.g. "let > > me finish, let me finish", in the middle of a > sentence during the > debate where no-one had > > interrupted him). > > http://isbushwired.com/ He's channeling obviously > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
--- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- johnlasher20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > THIS IS NOT A JOKE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID > > > > > > > Subject: President Bush explains his Social > Security > > > Reform Proposal: > > > > > > WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: I don't really understand. > How is > > > it the new plan is > > > going to fix the problem? > > > > > > Verbatim response: > > > > > > PRESIDENT BUSH: "Because the -- all which is on > the > > > table begins to > > > address the big cost drivers. For example, how > > > benefits are calculated, > > > for example, is on the table. Whether or not > > > benefits rise based upon > > > wage increases or price increases. There's a > series > > > of parts of the > > > formula that are being considered. And when you > > > couple that, those > > > different cost drivers, affecting those -- > changing > > > those with personal > > > accounts, the idea is to get what has been > promised > > > more likely to be > > > -- or closer delivered to that has been > promised. > > > Does that make any sense to you? > > > It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of > > > things that cause the > > > --like, for example, benefits are calculated > based > > > upon the increase of > > > wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. > Some > > > have suggested that > > > we calculate -- the benefits will rise based > upon > > > inflation, supposed > > > to wage increases. There is a reform that would > help > > > solve the red if > > > that were put into effect. In other words, how > fast > > > benefits grow, how > > > fast the promised benefits grow, if those -- if > that > > > growth is > > > affected, it will help on the red." > > > > This is the President of the most powerful nation > on > > earth. It would make a great joke if it wasn't > true. > > He truly doesn't know what he is talking about, he > > only thinks he knows. A very dangerous > combination. > > um, yeah. Look in the mirror. Oh, you get me so mad! Well, you're a stupid head, so there! And I bet you smell like poop too! > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
Ironic that Mayor Wynne and Prez Bush appeared here on FFLife in the same hour, both full of shit to the ears. - Original Message - From: jim_flanegin To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 6:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:> THIS IS NOT A JOKE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID > > Subject: President Bush explains his Social Security Reform Proposal:> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
on 6/23/05 6:41 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > crazy or on drugs, or both...end of story. Or brain damaged due to years of drugs and heavy drinking, on top of not being too smart to begin with. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
