Re: Fedora 8 theme requests
Mark wrote: To put it simply: we don't have yet contributors able and wiling to a new sound theme. The bunch of us here are mostly skilled with graphics. And arguably, working on sounds has a higher barrier to entry: on top of skill and experience you need also some hardware and software, the hardware cost money and the software for sound processing is not very well present in Linux/FOSS. i'm willing sadly not capable. unless you/anyone else knows of a application here you can MAKE your own sounds. not just a piano but with all kind of effects and instruments. i don't know what program can do that for windows or linux (they exist.. i just don't know them). Sorry, but I don't know much about audio applications, the obvious start is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_audio_software Also I want to reiterate Martin's advice about asking on the fedora-music list, I believe there are a few people knowledgeable in the field. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 8 theme requests
On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 22:52 +0200, Mark wrote: > yea.. but than again.. what program can we use for that? > Er... any program that can capture sound from microphone... But, I just went through the fedora lists and noticed list called fedora-music-list [1]. There were several times mentioned an app called ardour [2]. Looks promising, but I completely dunno how to work with jack audio, so I had no success running it (but I didn't tried much)... Martin References: [1] http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list [2] http://www.ardour.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 8 theme requests
yea.. but than again.. what program can we use for that? 2007/7/4, Martin Sourada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > i'm willing > sadly not capable. unless you/anyone else knows of a application here > you can MAKE your own sounds. not just a piano but with all kind of > effects and instruments. i don't know what program can do that for > windows or linux (they exist.. i just don't know them). > IMHO, it's not necessary to make effects. Music was meant from its beginning to symbolise actions/states/feelings - instrumental music. Its late fashion that it does it through effects/words. We could distinguish Fedora from other distros by making a sound theme that would be completely instrumental - no effects. That is possible yet hard - needs a lot of talent and a lot of invention. And for instrumental music linux have all we need. Martin ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 8 theme requests
> > i'm willing > sadly not capable. unless you/anyone else knows of a application here > you can MAKE your own sounds. not just a piano but with all kind of > effects and instruments. i don't know what program can do that for > windows or linux (they exist.. i just don't know them). > IMHO, it's not necessary to make effects. Music was meant from its beginning to symbolise actions/states/feelings - instrumental music. Its late fashion that it does it through effects/words. We could distinguish Fedora from other distros by making a sound theme that would be completely instrumental - no effects. That is possible yet hard - needs a lot of talent and a lot of invention. And for instrumental music linux have all we need. Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 8 theme requests
On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 08:36 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Daniel Geiger wrote: > > Hi, > > I think it would be very good to have a unique Fedora sound theme > > (Ubuntu has one of its own, one that seems very polished compared to the > > default Gnome sounds). What would it take to do so? > > To put it simply: we don't have yet contributors able and wiling to a > new sound theme. > The bunch of us here are mostly skilled with graphics. And arguably, > working on sounds has a higher barrier to entry: on top of skill and > experience you need also some hardware and software, the hardware cost > money and the software for sound processing is not very well present in > Linux/FOSS. > I have quite good skill in playing musical instruments... but never composed anything - especially not desktop music. Fugue would be easier :-D But anyway, I think, for creating good music/sound you need not good software/hardware. Just pencil, paper, musical instrument, skill and decent microphone... Audacity can do the rest ;-) I hope we'll eventually find one to do the sound theme, but probably we should focus now rather on graphics related things... > > Also, if there are not plans already for this, I would like to see > > Firefox and OpenOffice have an Echo icon theme enabled by default (I > > believe again, Ubuntu has something like that, only not installed by > > OpenOffice.org need a very large number of icons, Firefox also need some > more icons and only a few people work on Echo, all of them in their > spare time. Is a problem of manpower. > And we are somewhat split in the opinion *if* Echo is the future for > Fedora (for example, there is a number of supporters for a personalized > version of Tango, just like Ubuntu do and a small number of supporters > of a renewed Bluecurve). > In case of Firefox I started a theme some months ago, but I stopped doing it since I switched from firefox to epiphany, I was not much skilled in the theme creation (i.e. I was not well acquainted with the theme settings, subfolders, etc.), was a bit short of time, and Echo wasn't complete enough. I can post somewhere what I did so far, but the graphic part would need to be updated (to fit the current Echo, and I had it without shadows) and not all was done. If there is anyone interested just ask :) > > default, AFAIK). Another Firefox/OpenOffice wish, they don't exactly > > integrate as well with gtk; is there any way to fix that? > > And the integration would be even lower without the hard work done > upstream by a number of Red Hat developers. The integration is better > with every new release. > I am hoping for the best. Yet meanwhile, if we create Fedora gtk theme (and if it would be chosen as default), we could do the firefox theme to fit the rest of Fedora as well (including widgets)... But it's a hack - i.e. if user switches to some other theme/icons, the firefox will remain same (one of the reasons I switched to epiphany). Just my 2 cents, Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 8 theme requests
To put it simply: we don't have yet contributors able and wiling to a new sound theme. The bunch of us here are mostly skilled with graphics. And arguably, working on sounds has a higher barrier to entry: on top of skill and experience you need also some hardware and software, the hardware cost money and the software for sound processing is not very well present in Linux/FOSS. i'm willing sadly not capable. unless you/anyone else knows of a application here you can MAKE your own sounds. not just a piano but with all kind of effects and instruments. i don't know what program can do that for windows or linux (they exist.. i just don't know them). 2007/7/4, Nicu Buculei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Daniel Geiger wrote: > Hi, > I think it would be very good to have a unique Fedora sound theme > (Ubuntu has one of its own, one that seems very polished compared to the > default Gnome sounds). What would it take to do so? To put it simply: we don't have yet contributors able and wiling to a new sound theme. The bunch of us here are mostly skilled with graphics. And arguably, working on sounds has a higher barrier to entry: on top of skill and experience you need also some hardware and software, the hardware cost money and the software for sound processing is not very well present in Linux/FOSS. > Also, if there are not plans already for this, I would like to see > Firefox and OpenOffice have an Echo icon theme enabled by default (I > believe again, Ubuntu has something like that, only not installed by OpenOffice.org need a very large number of icons, Firefox also need some more icons and only a few people work on Echo, all of them in their spare time. Is a problem of manpower. And we are somewhat split in the opinion *if* Echo is the future for Fedora (for example, there is a number of supporters for a personalized version of Tango, just like Ubuntu do and a small number of supporters of a renewed Bluecurve). > default, AFAIK). Another Firefox/OpenOffice wish, they don't exactly > integrate as well with gtk; is there any way to fix that? And the integration would be even lower without the hard work done upstream by a number of Red Hat developers. The integration is better with every new release. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 8 theme requests
Nicu Buculei wrote: Daniel Geiger wrote: Hi, I think it would be very good to have a unique Fedora sound theme (Ubuntu has one of its own, one that seems very polished compared to the default Gnome sounds). What would it take to do so? To put it simply: we don't have yet contributors able and wiling to a new sound theme. The bunch of us here are mostly skilled with graphics. And arguably, working on sounds has a higher barrier to entry: on top of skill and experience you need also some hardware and software, the hardware cost money and the software for sound processing is not very well present in Linux/FOSS. Oh, I forgot to add: are you interested in leading such a project (or at least contributing) to provide a new and better sound theme? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 8 theme requests
Daniel Geiger wrote: Hi, I think it would be very good to have a unique Fedora sound theme (Ubuntu has one of its own, one that seems very polished compared to the default Gnome sounds). What would it take to do so? To put it simply: we don't have yet contributors able and wiling to a new sound theme. The bunch of us here are mostly skilled with graphics. And arguably, working on sounds has a higher barrier to entry: on top of skill and experience you need also some hardware and software, the hardware cost money and the software for sound processing is not very well present in Linux/FOSS. Also, if there are not plans already for this, I would like to see Firefox and OpenOffice have an Echo icon theme enabled by default (I believe again, Ubuntu has something like that, only not installed by OpenOffice.org need a very large number of icons, Firefox also need some more icons and only a few people work on Echo, all of them in their spare time. Is a problem of manpower. And we are somewhat split in the opinion *if* Echo is the future for Fedora (for example, there is a number of supporters for a personalized version of Tango, just like Ubuntu do and a small number of supporters of a renewed Bluecurve). default, AFAIK). Another Firefox/OpenOffice wish, they don't exactly integrate as well with gtk; is there any way to fix that? And the integration would be even lower without the hard work done upstream by a number of Red Hat developers. The integration is better with every new release. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 8 theme requests
On Tuesday, July 03, 2007 4:51 pm Daniel Geiger wrote: > I would like to see Firefox and OpenOffice have an Echo > icon theme enabled by default (I believe again, Ubuntu has something like > that, only not installed by default, AFAIK) Ubuntu uses the Tango Project theme as a base for its icon theme, which gives them a slight advantage; that being, they don't have to do each and every icon themselves. Most of them are already done. -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list