Re: Enhancing the fonts list for the KDE live images (was: Re: pruning the fonts list)

[Nicolas Mailhot]

Le samedi 19 avril 2008 à 00:36 +0200, Sebastian Vahl a écrit :
 I've got a similar question here for the KDE live images. At the moment
 our fonts list is:

At first glance you could use pretty much the same advice as the live
spin, except you've already followed some of it, and you have support
for some scripts the main live spin is missing (which is good, if you
have the space). For example : tibetan  ethiopic (abyssinica).

If you really wanted to save space, you could drop the urw  ghoscript
fonts, but I suspect you may have some packages depending on them
explicitely. They don't add coverage, and they're not really good screen
font, but they do provide some standard font metrics (is it worth some
live cd space?)




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Re: pruning the fonts list

[Nicolas Mailhot]

Le samedi 19 avril 2008 à 11:31 +0300, Oron Peled a écrit :
 [cross-posting to an Israeli Group of Linux Users.
  IGLU readers, please read and send me your feedback.
  A concrete information (specific apps, toolkits, specific
  characters/nikud) would help us form a valid opinion]
 
 On Saturday, 19 בApril 2008, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
  Le vendredi 18 avril 2008 à 15:57 -0400, Bill Nottingham a écrit :
   When looking over the LiveCD manifest, and where space is going, I
   can't help but notice that a lot of it goes to fonts. Here's the
   full list, AFAICT. The number to the left is the size of the package.
   I think a good chunk of this could be pruned.
  
  My advice would be:
  ...
  4. drop culmus — DejaVu full includes Hebrew no one complained of during
  the F9 cycle, so no need to keep a separate Hebrew font on a
  space-constrained media
 
 If DejaVu provides good-enough substitute for space limited media,
 than it may be OK.

Well, DejaVu certainly does not aim just at good enough. Please report
any problem with it upstream. Even if Culmus stays in Fedora users will
mostly see DejaVu since it's the default font set (not just in Fedora
BTW). So if your script is included in DejaVu you really want to work
with DejaVu upstream to get it good.

Anyway that highlights a problem with fonts: users are highly sensitive
to font changes, and fonts change slowly. So l10n groups *must* test the
Fedora font selection very early in a cycle. Any problem spotted after
what used to be called Test2 is unlikely to be fixed in time for the
final release.

More local involvement in font packaging would help of course.

-- 
Nicolas Mailhot


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