Re: chkfontpath ?

2008-11-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Simon Slater wrote:
\

Where's the best place to start looking / learning about fonts in
Fedora?  I need to get more for use in OOo, GIMP, Inkscape and Scribus.


IIRC, all these apps just use fontconfig. So the method is documented in 
the release notes. Quoting


---

"Adding new fonts to the fontconfig font subsystem is more 
straightforward; the new font file only needs to be copied into the 
/usr/share/fonts/ directory (individual users can modify their personal 
font configuration by copying the font file into the ~/.fonts/  directory).


After the new font has been copied, use fc-cache to update the font 
information cache:


fc-cache 

(Where  would be either the /usr/share/fonts/ or ~/.fonts/ 
directories.)"


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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Matthew Flaschen
Dave Feustel wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 09:38:48AM -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
>> Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> Except that is a 'frownie' as displayed here, and in this email. 
>> ☺
>>
> When I try this on F9 using ksh, I get blank lines.
> What font(s) need to be installed?

It works for me in ksh with xterm or konsole.  The smileys are in
DejaVu-Sans, which I believe is installed by default.

Matt Flaschen

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Re: [kde-linux] Set default view for Dolphin File manager

2008-11-09 Thread Anoop
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Kevin Kempter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Hi All;
>
>
> I'm running Fedora9 & KDE 4.2
>
> How can I set the default view for Dolphin to 'Details'  instead of
> the 'Icons' view ?

Dolphin can remember settings for each folder. It can also be set in a mode
where it sets common properties for all folders. You can choose the later
option, and then set view properties of a folder to 'details' from toolbar.
Close dolphin and next time when you open it, it will open in 'details'
mode.
I guess this is what you are looking for.

Thanks,
Anoop

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Re: chkfontpath ?

2008-11-09 Thread Simon Slater

On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 08:28 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Dave Feustel wrote:
> > I want to add a collection of unicode fonts to my fontserver.  I
> have
> > downloaded the fonts and unpacked them to /usr/share/fonts/truetype.
> I
> > have created the files fonts.scale and fonts.dir. Now I want to run
> the
> > command chkfontpath -add /usr/share/fonts/truetype, but there is no
> > command chkfontpath on my system (F9).
> > 
> > Is there another way to add these fonts?
> 
> You don't need it anymore and it is mentioned in the release notes as
> well.
> 
> http://hoegsberg.blogspot.com/2007/06/death-to-xfs.html
> 
> 
Where's the best place to start looking / learning about fonts in
Fedora?  I need to get more for use in OOo, GIMP, Inkscape and Scribus.

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Re: exclude option for rsync

2008-11-09 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 10Nov2008 00:21, Ryan Sawhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| > One little known feature of rsync is the fact that when run over a
| > remote shell (such as rsh or ssh) you can give any shell command as
| > the remote file list. The shell command is expanded by your remote
| > shell before rsync is called. [...]
| 
| Little-known indeed--I didn't know rsync could do that.. that's really cool.

I have mixed feelings about this coolness myself, having tripped over it
several times. It means that if you're trying to name
files-with-spaces-or-other-weirdness precisely you need to quote twice, once
locally as with any shell command, and then again for the remote shell. It's
doable, and even automatable (provided you trust there's a Bourne/POSIX shell
at the far end, otherwise of course the far end quote syntax will be
different...)

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Re: exclude option for rsync

2008-11-09 Thread Ryan Sawhill
>
> One little known feature of rsync is the fact that when run over a
> remote shell (such as rsh or ssh) you can give any shell command as
> the remote file list. The shell command is expanded by your remote
>
> shell before rsync is called. For example, see if you can work out
> what this does:
>
>   rsync -avR remote:'`find /home -name "*.[ch]"`' /tmp/
>
> note that that is backquotes enclosed by quotes (some browsers don't
> show that correctly).
>
> not sure how to make this work.
>

Little-known indeed--I didn't know rsync could do that.. that's really cool.
So for a little more explanation, say you have a directory tree /database,
and you want to sync only the files that were changed in the last ten days.
You should be able to do something like the following:

rsync -av REMOTEHOST:'$(find /database -ctime -10)' /local/database/mirror
which would be about the same as
rsync -av REMOTEHOST:'$(find /database -not -ctime +10)'
/local/database/mirror

The difference between using find's ctime and mtime options: mtime will only
change if the actual file data has changed, whereas ctime includes both file
data and metadata--permissions, ownership info, file name, etc.

Hope that helps!
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Firefox croaks trying to launch evince

2008-11-09 Thread Sam Varshavchik
For some reasons Firefox can't open .pdf files by default on one of my 
machines.


On the first machine, after clicking on a PDF file, Firefox pops up the 
usual "What should Firefox do with this file?" dialog, with "Open with: 
Document Viewer (default)" setting. Clicking OK downloads the PDF file, then 
opens it inside Firefox's window.


On another machine, after doing the same thing, Firefox downloads the PDF 
file, the croaks with this error dialog:


"/tmp/ could not be opened, because the associated helper 
application does not exist. Change the association in your preferences".


I can manually open /tmp, and launch the PDF file, which opens in evince 
normally. Both firefoxes have the same "PDF document" setting in 
Preferences/Applications, and both machines have identical /etc/mozpluggerrc




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Re: Looking for a docbook example.

2008-11-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 21:38 -0500, Steven W. Orr wrote:
> Is there such a thing as a nontrivial book that is available for free 
> online that also has the docbook src available? I'd like to learn docbook 
> and I think having an available example would be a good starting point.

AFAIK the Fedora documentation source is in Docbook format. I don't know
if that's sufficiently non-trivial.

> Also, I'm not clear on what the advantage of using docbook is over just 
> using LaTeX.

Depends on your needs. There's a good deal of overlap, in that they are
both oriented to marking up documents according to high-level elements
(paragraphs, lists, headers, figures etc.) and leaving the final
appearance to a compiler. LaTeX (and TeX) are focussed on high-quality
printing. Docbook is an SGML style that allows variant versions of
documents for different output media (e.g. printed versus Web page).
Both are cross-platform. IMHO in Linux LaTeX is more mature and probably
better supported by editing tools, while SGML editing can still be a bit
painful. Of course you can also generate LaTeX output from a Docbook
source file.

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Re: where to get cisco vpn client for Fedora 9

2008-11-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Kevin Kempter wrote:

Hi All;

anyone know where I can get a copy of the cisco vpn client for Fedora9 ?


Would vpnc work for you?

# yum search vpnc

 Matched: vpnc 
=

NetworkManager-vpnc.i386 : NetworkManager VPN integration for vpnc
knetworkmanager-vpnc.i386 : knetworkmanager vpnc client
vpnc.i386 : IPSec VPN client compatible with Cisco equipment
vpnc-consoleuser.i386 : Allows console user to run the VPN client directly

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Re: exclude option for rsync

2008-11-09 Thread L
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Cameron Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 10Nov2008 09:56, L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | I use rsync to sync a mirror site. I wnat to exclude files that were
> created
> | more than 10 days ago. I have  a long list of excludes in a file. But I
> want
> | a dynamic option.
> | what is the option for this in rsync ?
>
> As far as I'm aware there isn't one. The include/exclude stuff is
> entirely pathname based. I have in the past done a recursive _listing_
> of a mirror site, chosen files out of that, and constructed an
> include/exclude file on that basis. This was automated with a script.
>
> In my case the example was a GNU archive with multiple versions of
> packages; I wished only to mirror the "latest" package.
>
> If you can construct (via, perhaps, "rsync -n" and some postprocessing)
> a list of the remote files that you want, or do not want, it is a pretty
> easy task to convert that into an include/exclude list automatically. Then
> you just use that in a wrapper script for calling rsync.
>
> Cheers,
> --

at the bottom of rsync example page @
http://www.samba.org/rsync/examples.html

it says

Fancy footwork with remote file lists


One little known feature of rsync is the fact that when run over a
remote shell (such as rsh or ssh) you can give any shell command as
the remote file list. The shell command is expanded by your remote
shell before rsync is called. For example, see if you can work out
what this does:

rsync -avR remote:'`find /home -name "*.[ch]"`' /tmp/

note that that is backquotes enclosed by quotes (some browsers don't
show that correctly).


not sure how to make this work.

Y



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where to get cisco vpn client for Fedora 9

2008-11-09 Thread Kevin Kempter
Hi All;

anyone know where I can get a copy of the cisco vpn client for Fedora9 ?

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Set default view for Dolphin File manager

2008-11-09 Thread Kevin Kempter
Hi All;


I'm running Fedora9 & KDE 4.2

How can I set the default view for Dolphin to 'Details'  instead of 
the 'Icons' view ?


Thanks in advance

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Fedora Classroom

2008-11-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Hi

There was a number of IRC sessions on various topics related to Free
software and Fedora.  The IRC logs have now been published. Feel free to
use them if you did not find the time to participation in real time.

This is planned to continue for the next month as well.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom

 * SELinux Basics
 * Firewall Basics
 * An introduction to Bugzilla
 * Beginner's guide to getting involved
 * Package Taxonomy and Techniques
 * Creating a Fedora Remix
 * Configuration Management using Puppet

Rahul

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Re: fedora-fonts-list R.I.P?

2008-11-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Dave Feustel wrote:




This error message was generated by Konqueror 4.1.2. When I used firefox
to access the same page, it worked. I then joined the list. A
confirmation url was sent to me via email. When I tried to access it via
Konqueror, it failed with invalid url. Then I tried Firefox and it
worked. This is typical of the errors that I have been experiencing with
Konqueror lately.


Would be useful to get some bug reports on this.

Rahul

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Re: chkfontpath ?

2008-11-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Dave Feustel wrote:

I want to add a collection of unicode fonts to my fontserver.  I have
downloaded the fonts and unpacked them to /usr/share/fonts/truetype. I
have created the files fonts.scale and fonts.dir. Now I want to run the
command chkfontpath -add /usr/share/fonts/truetype, but there is no
command chkfontpath on my system (F9).

Is there another way to add these fonts?


You don't need it anymore and it is mentioned in the release notes as well.

http://hoegsberg.blogspot.com/2007/06/death-to-xfs.html


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Looking for a docbook example.

2008-11-09 Thread Steven W. Orr
Is there such a thing as a nontrivial book that is available for free 
online that also has the docbook src available? I'd like to learn docbook 
and I think having an available example would be a good starting point.


Also, I'm not clear on what the advantage of using docbook is over just 
using LaTeX.


BTW, I'm not sure if this qualifies as a proper question for this list, 
but I am running F9. :-)


TIA

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Re: exclude option for rsync

2008-11-09 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 10Nov2008 09:56, L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I use rsync to sync a mirror site. I wnat to exclude files that were created
| more than 10 days ago. I have  a long list of excludes in a file. But I want
| a dynamic option.
| what is the option for this in rsync ?

As far as I'm aware there isn't one. The include/exclude stuff is
entirely pathname based. I have in the past done a recursive _listing_
of a mirror site, chosen files out of that, and constructed an
include/exclude file on that basis. This was automated with a script.

In my case the example was a GNU archive with multiple versions of
packages; I wished only to mirror the "latest" package.

If you can construct (via, perhaps, "rsync -n" and some postprocessing)
a list of the remote files that you want, or do not want, it is a pretty
easy task to convert that into an include/exclude list automatically. Then
you just use that in a wrapper script for calling rsync.

Cheers,
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Re: chkfontpath ?

2008-11-09 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 05:33:13PM -0600, John Thompson wrote:
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> Dave Feustel wrote:
>
> |> Just "rpmbuild --rebuild chkfontpath-1.10.0-2.src.rpm" then install the
> |> binary RPM.
> |
> | OK. Got the package. Copied into root dir and executed the rpmbuild
> command.
> | which chkfontpath then does not find the program.
> | How do I install the binary RPM?
>
> The binary RPMs are placed in /usr/src/redhat[arch]/, where [arch]
> represents the target architecture -- e.g. i386, x86_64, etc.
>
> To install use "rpm -Uvh
> /usr/src/redhat[arch]/chkfontpath-1.10.0-2.[arch].rpm

Worked!  I had to correct the path and then install xfs first.

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Re: tar question

2008-11-09 Thread chloe K
Thank you 
  it works
   
  how about untar
   
  tar cvf file.tar -T selectfile.txt
   
  inside the selectfile.txt
   
  eg:
   
  /var/www/html/version3/abc.html
  /var/www/html/version3/image/abc.jpg
  /var/www/html/version3/cgi-bin/abc.cgi
   
   
  how can I untar it
   
  as all inside in /var/www/html instead of /var/www/html/version3
   
  Thank you again
   
   
  

"Mikkel L. Ellertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  chloe K wrote:
> Hi
> I have number of selected files to backup and it is also in different
> folders
> How can I make it easy?
> 
> eg:
> tar zcvf select-file.tar.gz from selected file or tar zcvf
> select-file.tar.gz (from selected files in file.txt)?
> 
> Thank you for your help
> 
Check out the -T or --files-from= option.
Something like: (Double check the syntax!)

tar zcv -T file.txt -f elect-file.tar.gz

You will probable find the tar info file more helpful then the tar
man page.

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Re: how to count nfs clients attached to my server?

2008-11-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 21:16 +, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> >> > /usr/sbin/showmount will give you a list of IP's connected.
> >> 
> >> I had never heard of this program, so I ran it and got
> >> --
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo showmount -a
> >> showmount: RPC: Program not registered
> >> --
> >> How is one meant to "register" the program?
> > 
> > It's been years since I knew this stuff but IIRC the "unregistered"
> > program is either the nfs daemon (nfsd) or the mount daemon (mountd). In
> > this context "unregistered" just means it isn't running. Check
> > serviceconf.
> 
> Thanks.
> I misunderstood the purpose of the program.
> I see now that one has to run it on a machine running nfsd.

Not so. You can run it from anywhere, but you have to say which server
you're interested in. From the man page:  "showmount  queries the mount
daemon on a remote host for information about the state of the NFS
server on that machine".

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Re: chkfontpath ?

2008-11-09 Thread John Thompson

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Dave Feustel wrote:

|> Just "rpmbuild --rebuild chkfontpath-1.10.0-2.src.rpm" then install the
|> binary RPM.
|
| OK. Got the package. Copied into root dir and executed the rpmbuild
command.
| which chkfontpath then does not find the program.
| How do I install the binary RPM?

The binary RPMs are placed in /usr/src/redhat[arch]/, where [arch]
represents the target architecture -- e.g. i386, x86_64, etc.

To install use "rpm -Uvh
/usr/src/redhat[arch]/chkfontpath-1.10.0-2.[arch].rpm

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Re: chkfontpath ?

2008-11-09 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 04:57:01PM -0600, John Thompson wrote:
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>
> Dave Feustel wrote:
>
> | I want to add a collection of unicode fonts to my fontserver.  I have
> | downloaded the fonts and unpacked them to /usr/share/fonts/truetype. I
> | have created the files fonts.scale and fonts.dir. Now I want to run the
> | command chkfontpath -add /usr/share/fonts/truetype, but there is no
> | command chkfontpath on my system (F9).
> |
> | Is there another way to add these fonts?
>
> You can build a Fedora9 package using the RHEL4 source RPM:
> ftp://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/enterprise/4/en/os/i386/SRPMS/chkfontpath-1.10.0-2.src.rpm
>
> Just "rpmbuild --rebuild chkfontpath-1.10.0-2.src.rpm" then install the
> binary RPM.

OK. Got the package. Copied into root dir and executed the rpmbuild command.
which chkfontpath then does not find the program.
How do I install the binary RPM?

Thanks.

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Re: chkfontpath ?

2008-11-09 Thread John Thompson

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Dave Feustel wrote:

| I want to add a collection of unicode fonts to my fontserver.  I have
| downloaded the fonts and unpacked them to /usr/share/fonts/truetype. I
| have created the files fonts.scale and fonts.dir. Now I want to run the
| command chkfontpath -add /usr/share/fonts/truetype, but there is no
| command chkfontpath on my system (F9).
|
| Is there another way to add these fonts?

You can build a Fedora9 package using the RHEL4 source RPM:
ftp://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/enterprise/4/en/os/i386/SRPMS/chkfontpath-1.10.0-2.src.rpm

Just "rpmbuild --rebuild chkfontpath-1.10.0-2.src.rpm" then install the
binary RPM.

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exclude option for rsync

2008-11-09 Thread L
Hi,
I use rsync to sync a mirror site. I wnat to exclude files that were created
more than 10 days ago. I have  a long list of excludes in a file. But I want
a dynamic option.

what is the option for this in rsync ?

best
Y
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Re: Hang coming out of suspend

2008-11-09 Thread Steve
Hi Geoffrey,

 Geoffrey Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> 
> On 11/07/2008 02:00:41 PM, Steve wrote:
> > 
> >  Geoffrey Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > > ASUS Z84F. When I suspend (with appropriate quirks) under 
> > > kernel-2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686, half of the time the system hangs on 
> > > coming out of the suspend, requiring reboot. Things appear to start
> > out 
> > > well, then, before the display and keyboard are enabled, the system 
> > > hangs. Earlier 2.6.26 kernels and kernel-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 
> > (now
> > in 
> > > use) work fine. Neither /var/log/messages nor dmesg show anything 
> > > wrong.
> > > 
> > > Fedora 9 is up-to-date.
> > > 
> > > Before I submit to Bugzilla, (a) is anyone having a similar problem
> > and 
> > > (b) any suggestions for data gathering?
> > 
> > 
> > Yes, I'm having the same issues. See my recent message on gdm error
> > messages.
> 
> Steve:
> 
> Thanks for the reply. I checked out your previous posting (at 
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general/318262/
> match=gdm)
> 
> and discovered:
> 
> gconfd (gdm-3110): Error setting value for `/apps/gnome-screensaver/
> power_management_delay': Can't overwrite existing read-only value: 
> Value for `/apps/gnome-screensaver/power_management_delay' set in a 
> read-only source at the front of your configuration path
> 
> is in my /var/log/messages on dates that correspond with my use of 
> kernel-2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686.
> 
> I notice that you are running Fedora 8. Which kernel? And which 
> computer are you using?

# uname -a
Linux steve.blackwell 2.6.26.5-28.fc8 #1 SMP Sat Sep 20 09:32:58 EDT 2008 i686 
i686 i386 GNU/Linux

# cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "model name"
model name  : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz
model name  : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz

HTH
Steve 

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Re: F9 installation

2008-11-09 Thread ksh shrm
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Jerry Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 11/06/2008 01:44 PM, Germán Racca wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all:
>>
>> I want to install Fedora 9 in a computer that already has Fedora 8,
>> but in a seprate place, just to have 2 different versions in one computer.
>> I new that in order to do it, I will have to create or resize a partition.
>> Well, when I run the installation DVD for Fedora 9 I get the following
>> screen:
>>
>> Drive /dev/sda (114471 MB) (Model: ATA SAMSUNG HD120IJ)
>> 
>> sda2
>> 114274 MB
>> 
>>
>>   DEVICEMOUNT POINT/VOLUMETYPESIZE (MB)
>>
>> LVM Volume Groups
>>  VolGroup00
>> 114272
>>LogVol00
>>  ext3 113216
>>LogVol01
>>  swap   1024
>>
>> Hard Drives
>>  /dev/sda
>>/dev/sda1
>> ext3196
>>/dev/sda2  VolGroup00  LVM PV
>> 114275
>>
>> I have tried to do a lot of thing but no success. How could I get a space
>> of approximately 30 GB to install another Linux, in my case Fedora 9?
>>
> I think Aldo gave you a decent answer. You are stuck with LVM, but you
> still should be able to set up for a dual boot.
> Problem 1 is /dev/sda1 is set up as your /boot partition. You will probably
> need to share this which means some manual editing of /boot/grub/grub.conf.
> Resizing of an LVM logical partition can be accomplished via the
> system-config-lvm graphical LVM utility. Or you can use the nonm-graphical
> commands, such as resize2fs and lvm.
>
> However possibly a better way might be to use a virtual machine, such as
> virtual box, and install Fedora 9 in virtualbox.
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Re: fedora-fonts-list R.I.P?

2008-11-09 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 04:12:24PM -0500, Dave Feustel wrote:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list is a damn hard
> list to join:
> 
> Invalid URL
>  The requested URL
> "https:/www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list", is invalid.
>  Reference #9.6a5d740.1226264404.0
> 
> What's the deal?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
This error message was generated by Konqueror 4.1.2. When I used firefox
to access the same page, it worked. I then joined the list. A
confirmation url was sent to me via email. When I tried to access it via
Konqueror, it failed with invalid url. Then I tried Firefox and it
worked. This is typical of the errors that I have been experiencing with
Konqueror lately.

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Re: how to count nfs clients attached to my server?

2008-11-09 Thread Timothy Murphy
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

>> > /usr/sbin/showmount will give you a list of IP's connected.
>> 
>> I had never heard of this program, so I ran it and got
>> --
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo showmount -a
>> showmount: RPC: Program not registered
>> --
>> How is one meant to "register" the program?
> 
> It's been years since I knew this stuff but IIRC the "unregistered"
> program is either the nfs daemon (nfsd) or the mount daemon (mountd). In
> this context "unregistered" just means it isn't running. Check
> serviceconf.

Thanks.
I misunderstood the purpose of the program.
I see now that one has to run it on a machine running nfsd.

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fedora-fonts-list R.I.P?

2008-11-09 Thread Dave Feustel
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list is a damn hard
list to join:

Invalid URL
 The requested URL
"https:/www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list", is invalid.
 Reference #9.6a5d740.1226264404.0

What's the deal?

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Re: Install from LiveCD/or official DVD ?

2008-11-09 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 21:26 +0100, David Hláčik wrote:
> what is Fedora prefered way of install on Desktop (notebook).

What is "preferred" is whatever the person doing it prefers.

> Should i use LiveCD or DVD (from ISO).
> 
Whichever you want to.  I used the DVD version.  Here's some reasons for
either:

The DVD gives you a disc that you can do a very full installation from,
the live CD is a smaller disc, so will come with less to install from
the disc.

The DVD is a larger initial download, but both will require updates to
be run, post installation.  You'd be downloading more updates for a
bigger initial installation, than a smaller one.  You may as well
download a smaller install set, and update less, then do installations
of extra stuff from the net, with the newest versions, rather than
install and update the same software.  You'll be downloading those
extras just once, not twice, that way.

The DVD can be faster to install from, simply due to data transfer rate
from the medium.  It might spin slower, but more data comes off it
during the spin than a CD.

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Re: Install from LiveCD/or official DVD ?

2008-11-09 Thread g
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dvd;
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Install from LiveCD/or official DVD ?

2008-11-09 Thread David Hláčik
Hello guys,

what is Fedora prefered way of install on Desktop (notebook).

Should i use LiveCD or DVD (from ISO).

Thanks!

D.

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knotes on KDE not start automatically

2008-11-09 Thread Ambrogio De Lorenzo
Hi all,

I used knotes on fedora 8 (kde 3.x) and everytime I started the desktop,
knotes started, with all my notes on the desk.

Now I installed fedora 9 and KDE 4.1
I copied all my notes on the new system, and started knotes.
Everything was ok, but knotes doesn't start at DKE start.
Other applications starts (pidgin and Kgpg for example).

Someone known how to make knotes startable at KDE start?
I think there is a way (like autostart), but I would like to know if it
is the only way to obtain knotes started.

Tnx
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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Dan Thurman

Alan Cox wrote:


> For example, there is umlaut - and that could be transliterated into
> `u' for example.  Others may have strange looking unicode and I have

That depends on the language. Unicode is just character encoding rules.
You need more context to do transliterations. Not that you should need to
as you can just install the relevant fonts. DejaVu has pretty good
European coverage for example and is one of the standard installed fonts
in current Fedora.

You also have to watch the encodings. Its not uncommon to find mis-coded
information in OGG and similar files where the track data is mis-encoded
in one of the legacy ISO-8859 code pages not UTF-8 and that produces
invalid utf-8 sequences so will be displayed as the symbol for an invalid
character.

> no idea what it is supposed to me - so I cannot transliterate w/o 
knowing

> what it is in the first place - so how do I find out?  The unlaut is
> sometimes
> obvious - but others are not.  So is there a way to show this?  As I 
said,


Load the right fonts and they will be rendered correctly.

> I get binary icons so how do I get the unicode decimal 
representation so

> that I can match against the unicode character table to see what it is?

The 'four squares' shown for an unknown symbol should each contain a
hex digit which together give you the symbol code which you can look up
on the unicode web site.

> Would it be: print \\%d, $1 ?

It's UTF-8 so a variable length encoding of the full unicode symbol
space. See www.unicode.org if you want to the full details but basically
each symbol is encoded as a series of bytes such that C special symbol \0
is never found mid-character and so that the ASCII range of symbols for
American English is mapped 1:1 with UTF-8.

Alan


Thanks for the tip!  I will review the link you gave me (already started!)

Dan

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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Alan Cox
> For example, there is umlaut - and that could be transliterated into
> `u' for example.  Others may have strange looking unicode and I have

That depends on the language. Unicode is just character encoding rules.
You need more context to do transliterations. Not that you should need to
as you can just install the relevant fonts. DejaVu has pretty good
European coverage for example and is one of the standard installed fonts
in current Fedora.

You also have to watch the encodings. Its not uncommon to find mis-coded
information in OGG and similar files where the track data is mis-encoded
in one of the legacy ISO-8859 code pages not UTF-8 and that produces
invalid utf-8 sequences so will be displayed as the symbol for an invalid
character.

> no idea what it is supposed to me - so I cannot transliterate w/o knowing
> what it is in the first place - so how do I find out?  The unlaut is 
> sometimes
> obvious - but others are not.  So is there a way to show this?  As I said,

Load the right fonts and they will be rendered correctly.

> I get binary icons so how do I get the unicode decimal representation so
> that I can match against the unicode character table to see what it is?

The 'four squares' shown for an unknown symbol should each contain a
hex digit which together give you the symbol code which you can look up
on the unicode web site.

> Would it be: print \\%d, $1 ?

It's UTF-8 so a variable length encoding of the full unicode symbol
space. See www.unicode.org if you want to the full details but basically
each symbol is encoded as a series of bytes such that C special symbol \0
is never found mid-character and so that the ASCII range of symbols for
American English is mapped 1:1 with UTF-8.

Alan

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chkfontpath ?

2008-11-09 Thread Dave Feustel
I want to add a collection of unicode fonts to my fontserver.  I have
downloaded the fonts and unpacked them to /usr/share/fonts/truetype. I
have created the files fonts.scale and fonts.dir. Now I want to run the
command chkfontpath -add /usr/share/fonts/truetype, but there is no
command chkfontpath on my system (F9).

Is there another way to add these fonts?

Thanks.

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Re: Unneccesary abuse?

2008-11-09 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 09:16:34AM +0100, William Murray wrote:
> 
>   Hello guys,
> I just looked at an old bookmark to my 'smolt' profile stored
> with Fedora. I think it is a little unnecessary to be met with:
> 
> Hardware : Crap!
> 20 Sat Nov 8 08:14:00 2008 
> Error: Critical: New versions of smolt use a public UUID. Yours is:
> pub_4259ad23-b527-4049-88f0-75dc9591c2ff 
> 
> Maybe this is supposed to be helpful. But it doesn't seem that way.
> Is there a better message possible?
>Bill

Bill,

I forwarded your email to the smolt-devel mailing list for the
developers to look at and hopefully address.

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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Dan Thurman

Alan Cox wrote:


> How about the other way around?  What if you want to,
> say translate unicode characters to english?  I have

I'm not sure what you mean by "to English", Unicode is a character
encoding not a language dependant encoding. You can look up unicode
symbols on www.unicode.org, you probably need the right fonts installed
that is all.

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For example, there is umlaut - and that could be transliterated into
`u' for example.  Others may have strange looking unicode and I have
no idea what it is supposed to me - so I cannot transliterate w/o knowing
what it is in the first place - so how do I find out?  The unlaut is 
sometimes

obvious - but others are not.  So is there a way to show this?  As I said,
I get binary icons so how do I get the unicode decimal representation so
that I can match against the unicode character table to see what it is?

Would it be: print \\%d, $1 ?

Thanks!
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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Alan Cox
> How about the other way around?  What if you want to,
> say translate unicode characters to english?  I have

I'm not sure what you mean by "to English", Unicode is a character
encoding not a language dependant encoding. You can look up unicode
symbols on www.unicode.org, you probably need the right fonts installed
that is all.

Alan

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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Dan Thurman

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 09:38 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Except that is a 'frownie' as displayed here, and in this email.
>
> ☺

☹

poc


Maybe off topic?

How about the other way around?  What if you want to,
say translate unicode characters to english?  I have
song files that have unicode characters and some for
which I have no idea what it is supposed to represent.

For example, some song files have this image of a box
with binary numbers in them, supposedly a unicode
character, and I thought of simply deleting them, but
I'd like to know what they really are and if they can
be translated into english?

Thanks!
Dan

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Re: Hang coming out of suspend

2008-11-09 Thread Geoffrey Leach


On 11/07/2008 02:00:41 PM, Steve wrote:
> 
>  Geoffrey Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > ASUS Z84F. When I suspend (with appropriate quirks) under 
> > kernel-2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686, half of the time the system hangs on 
> > coming out of the suspend, requiring reboot. Things appear to start
> out 
> > well, then, before the display and keyboard are enabled, the system 
> > hangs. Earlier 2.6.26 kernels and kernel-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 
> (now
> in 
> > use) work fine. Neither /var/log/messages nor dmesg show anything 
> > wrong.
> > 
> > Fedora 9 is up-to-date.
> > 
> > Before I submit to Bugzilla, (a) is anyone having a similar problem
> and 
> > (b) any suggestions for data gathering?
> 
> 
> Yes, I'm having the same issues. See my recent message on gdm error
> messages.

Steve:

Thanks for the reply. I checked out your previous posting (at 
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general/318262/
match=gdm)

and discovered:

gconfd (gdm-3110): Error setting value for `/apps/gnome-screensaver/
power_management_delay': Can't overwrite existing read-only value: 
Value for `/apps/gnome-screensaver/power_management_delay' set in a 
read-only source at the front of your configuration path

is in my /var/log/messages on dates that correspond with my use of 
kernel-2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686.

I notice that you are running Fedora 8. Which kernel? And which 
computer are you using?




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Re: Thunderbird cannot open attachments with accented filenames

2008-11-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 15:31 +, Paul Smith wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Sometimes, I receive e-mails with attachments whose names contain
> >> accented characters. When I try to open them, for instance, with
> >> OpenOffice, I get an error message telling me that the file does not
> >> exist. The error message indicates a filename with very strange
> >> characters where the accented characters should be. Then, I have to
> >> save the file first and then open it. Something similar occurs with
> >> Firefox, when trying to open files with accented characters in their
> >> names. Is there some solution for this problem? My e-mail client is
> >> Thunderbird, and I am running F9.
> >
> > I'm guessing there might be a conflict between your locale and the MIME
> > encoding of the filename in TBird. If you save an attachment under its
> > default name can you then open it without any further editing of the
> > filename?
> 
> Yes, I can Patrick, if I save an attachment under its default name I
> can then open it without any further editing of the filename.

In that case I'm non-plussed. When you click on an attachment in TBird,
my asumption is that it would be saved as a file in /tmp and OO would
then be opened with that name. Perhaps if you post the name OO is trying
to open, copied from the error dialog, someone might be able to decipher
what's going on. Plus the "proper" filename of course.

poc

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Re: Question about X-Fi cards and FC9 (or FC10 upcoming ...)

2008-11-09 Thread Nigel Henry
On Sunday 09 November 2008 17:10, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 07:01 -0800, Jim Hayward wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 20:44 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> > > Don't get the X-Fi.
> > >
> > > Long story short:
> > > Since the introduction of the X-Fi, Creative refused to release the
> > > specs of cards, claiming that it will release binary drivers ASAP.
> >
> > Just in case you missed it, "hell has frozen over" and Creative finally
> > appears to have come to their senses. Creative has released a GPL v2
> > licensed driver and the source code for their X-Fi cards. Hopefully this
> > will eventually lead to support for the X-Fi cards being added to ALSA.
> >
> > http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblast
> >er&thread.id=132288
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >  Jim H
>
> ... They must have heard my rant :)
>
> - Gilboa

Takashi Iwai, alsa developer, has been working on the driver for X-Fi cards 
for well over 2 weeks now, and with much success in getting these cards 
working. He doesn't have the X-Fi cards, but has been working with folks that 
do have them, and have been acting as testers for various patches that 
Takashi has suggested as trials for resolving problems with the card. All in 
all there has been much success in getting the X-Fi cards to work.

The thread on the alsa development list started on 2008-10-11 (probably before 
that). See link below to access the alsa development archives.

  http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel

You have to wonder if Creative folks have been viewing the posts to the 
alsa-devel list, and because of what they've seen there, have decided to 
release the driver, along with the source code.

Just some observations.

Nigel.


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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Colin Paul Adams
> "Matthew" == Matthew Flaschen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Matthew> Colin Paul Adams wrote:
>> I just tried this, and I get presented with a
>> 
>> 
>> prompt.

Matthew> Can you clarify?  What shell are you using, and what kind
Matthew> of prompt did you see??  Did you paste exactly:

Matthew> uc() { /usr/bin/printf \\u$1; };

Matthew> as the first line and

Matthew> echo $(uc 2639)

Matthew> as the second?  You should see a smiley face (☹) for this
Matthew> example.

I made a few mistakes. Works now. Thanks.
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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
oops. didnt paste the first line.

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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
Colin Paul Adams wrote:

> I just tried this, and I get presented with a
> 
>>
> 
> prompt.
I am using the bash shell, and I get:

$ echo $(uc 2639)
bash: uc: command not found


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Re: Question about X-Fi cards and FC9 (or FC10 upcoming ...)

2008-11-09 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 07:01 -0800, Jim Hayward wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 20:44 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Don't get the X-Fi.
> > 
> > Long story short: 
> > Since the introduction of the X-Fi, Creative refused to release the
> > specs of cards, claiming that it will release binary drivers ASAP.
> 
> Just in case you missed it, "hell has frozen over" and Creative finally
> appears to have come to their senses. Creative has released a GPL v2
> licensed driver and the source code for their X-Fi cards. Hopefully this
> will eventually lead to support for the X-Fi cards being added to ALSA.
> 
> http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&thread.id=132288
> 
> 
> Regards,
>   Jim H
> 

... They must have heard my rant :)

- Gilboa

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Re: Thunderbird cannot open attachments with accented filenames

2008-11-09 Thread Paul Smith
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Sometimes, I receive e-mails with attachments whose names contain
>> accented characters. When I try to open them, for instance, with
>> OpenOffice, I get an error message telling me that the file does not
>> exist. The error message indicates a filename with very strange
>> characters where the accented characters should be. Then, I have to
>> save the file first and then open it. Something similar occurs with
>> Firefox, when trying to open files with accented characters in their
>> names. Is there some solution for this problem? My e-mail client is
>> Thunderbird, and I am running F9.
>
> I'm guessing there might be a conflict between your locale and the MIME
> encoding of the filename in TBird. If you save an attachment under its
> default name can you then open it without any further editing of the
> filename?

Yes, I can Patrick, if I save an attachment under its default name I
can then open it without any further editing of the filename.

Paul

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Re: SOLVED (not verified): how to verify cd

2008-11-09 Thread g
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Henning Larsen wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 14:05 +0300, Waleed Harbi wrote:
>> Try this command:
>> md5sum FC9.iso
>> then compare the results number with FC9 website
>> http://fedoraproject.org/en/verify.

when you do get correct size iso file, use *sha1sum* not md5sum. 2 very
different check sums.

> I'm sorry about this, at least I should have checked the file size, it
> was ca 100 megabytes smaller than it should be.

a little shy. ;o)

even with size being correct, do run sha1sum or md5sum, if either supplied,
to insure any file you download.

then you will be sure of both size and a good download.

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Re: Question about X-Fi cards and FC9 (or FC10 upcoming ...)

2008-11-09 Thread Jim Hayward
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 20:44 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:

> 
> Don't get the X-Fi.
> 
> Long story short: 
> Since the introduction of the X-Fi, Creative refused to release the
> specs of cards, claiming that it will release binary drivers ASAP.

Just in case you missed it, "hell has frozen over" and Creative finally
appears to have come to their senses. Creative has released a GPL v2
licensed driver and the source code for their X-Fi cards. Hopefully this
will eventually lead to support for the X-Fi cards being added to ALSA.

http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&thread.id=132288


Regards,
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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 09:38:48AM -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Except that is a 'frownie' as displayed here, and in this email. 
> 
> ☺
> 
When I try this on F9 using ksh, I get blank lines.
What font(s) need to be installed?

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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 09:38 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Except that is a 'frownie' as displayed here, and in this email. 
> 
> ☺

☹

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Re: how to count nfs clients attached to my server?

2008-11-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 11:30 +, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Steve Berg wrote:
> 
> > /usr/sbin/showmount will give you a list of IP's connected.
> 
> I had never heard of this program, so I ran it and got
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo showmount -a
> showmount: RPC: Program not registered
> --
> How is one meant to "register" the program?

It's been years since I knew this stuff but IIRC the "unregistered"
program is either the nfs daemon (nfsd) or the mount daemon (mountd). In
this context "unregistered" just means it isn't running. Check
serviceconf.

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Re: Libraries disappearing from compat-libstdc++-296

2008-11-09 Thread William M. Quarles

Kevin Kofler wrote:
Upstreams still building their binaries with GCC 2.95 (or 2.96 for that matter) 
should really be told to get with the times. GCC is at 4.3 now, 2.95 is just a 
long gone memory from the distant past.


Sorry for taking so long to reply, for some reason my Gmane.org feed 
wasn't showing the latest replies on this thread.


OK, Windows XP still runs nearly all programs from previous versions 
Windows, plus it has DOS emulation so that it can run many, but not all 
DOS programs. What is SO WRONG with some element of reverse 
compatibility? I know that some of you may feel that there is a hinder 
to progress there, but there has to be some kind of balance between 
bleeding-edge and interoperability with other software.


I'm not talking about a need to build new binaries, I'm just talking 
about getting older software to run on a newer OS. This doesn't just 
include commercial software such as Maple, but also older open-source 
projects that haven't been updated in a while, but could still 
hypothetically work if the proper libraries were provided.


William

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Re: Libraries disappearing from compat-libstdc++-296

2008-11-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 09:35:08 -0500
"William M. Quarles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Think you could send me some of those?

I doubt it is generally useful, right now it only has
/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.8b in it (which the old version
of NX I'm sticking to needs). I guess they switched to
something other than openssl in the new release, so the
library NX looks for isn't there anymore.

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Re: Libraries disappearing from compat-libstdc++-296

2008-11-09 Thread William M. Quarles

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Tom Horsley wrote:

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:47:57 -0400
Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I agree that no one should be building with those libraries, but in 
fact people do use binaries already using them.





I've just started making my own "compat" rpm with libraries from older
fedora versions packaged up to be installed on the new fedora to allow
my older binaries to run. If it ever reaches the point where that isn't
good enough, I guess I'll have to investigate upgrading after all :-).


You might think about where to release that for other to find.



WORD! Ditto on that one, that could be really useful to a number of 
people. You might want to see who would be willing to post that for you 
on a site for others to download.


Peace,
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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Matthew Flaschen
Gene Heskett wrote:
> Except that is a 'frownie' as displayed here, and in this email. 

☺

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Re: CUPS, Alpine, and printserving

2008-11-09 Thread Beartooth
On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:12:09 +1030, Tim wrote:
[...]
> If desperate, one could go into /etc/cups/ and remove the entries for
> particular printers.  I'm not sure how it handles missing files, but you
> could load the file and remove all the configuration data, leaving just
> the two comment lines at the top of printers.conf.
[...]
Would you believe that's what it shows now? Yet both Firefox and 
Opera insist on showing three.

I tried using Hbsk and Hbsk.localdomain (which is what uname 
shows for this machine) on Opera, but it failed to connect, though I saw 
it try 127.0.0.1


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Re: Thunderbird cannot open attachments with accented filenames

2008-11-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 21:36 +, Paul Smith wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> Sometimes, I receive e-mails with attachments whose names contain
> accented characters. When I try to open them, for instance, with
> OpenOffice, I get an error message telling me that the file does not
> exist. The error message indicates a filename with very strange
> characters where the accented characters should be. Then, I have to
> save the file first and then open it. Something similar occurs with
> Firefox, when trying to open files with accented characters in their
> names. Is there some solution for this problem? My e-mail client is
> Thunderbird, and I am running F9.

I'm guessing there might be a conflict between your locale and the MIME
encoding of the filename in TBird. If you save an attachment under its
default name can you then open it without any further editing of the
filename?

poc

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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 09 November 2008, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
>Colin Paul Adams wrote:
>> I just tried this, and I get presented with a
>>
>>
>> prompt.
>
>Can you clarify?  What shell are you using, and what kind of prompt did
>you see??  Did you paste exactly:
>
>uc() { /usr/bin/printf \\u$1; };
>
>as the first line and
>
>echo $(uc 2639)
>
>as the second?  You should see a smiley face (☹) for this example.
>
>Matt Flaschen

Except that is a 'frownie' as displayed here, and in this email.

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Re: Libraries disappearing from compat-libstdc++-296

2008-11-09 Thread William M. Quarles

Tom Horsley wrote:

I've just started making my own "compat" rpm with libraries from older
fedora versions packaged up to be installed on the new fedora to allow
my older binaries to run. If it ever reaches the point where that isn't
good enough, I guess I'll have to investigate upgrading after all :-).


Think you could send me some of those? I'm running Fedora 8 right now, 
but I'm about ready to switch to Fedora 9 thanks to all of the 
complications of wireless networking that are fixed in Fedora 9. What 
version of Fedora are you running?


Peace,
William


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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Matthew Flaschen
Colin Paul Adams wrote:
> I just tried this, and I get presented with a
> 
> 
> prompt.

Can you clarify?  What shell are you using, and what kind of prompt did
you see??  Did you paste exactly:

uc() { /usr/bin/printf \\u$1; };

as the first line and

echo $(uc 2639)

as the second?  You should see a smiley face (☹) for this example.

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Re: fglrx for F9.x86_64

2008-11-09 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 01:17 -0500, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> Frank Cox wrote:
> > I just use the default xorg.conf that the rpmfusion rpm set up for me.
> >
> > Maybe that's your problem -- are you using rpmfusion?
> 
> No, it was in RPMFusion that I found an x86_64 kmod that actually loaded 
> which caused me to start looking into getting it working again.  I had 
> it working in FC6, but not in F9 up until this point.
> 
> > Here's my xorg.conf.
> 
> I looked, I didn't see much that looked like it would help.
> I changed a bunch of options to no avail.  I started banging my head 
> against the wall.
> 
> > This is on my F9/x86_64 machine.  The one that I'm typing this on right 
> > now, in
> > fact.
> 
> Oh, I believe you!  I seem to remember having some 3-4 thousand fps 
> under FC6 using the proprietary driver.
> 
> I tried removing my xorg.conf and letting X create one for me.  Didn't 
> work.  Then I tried playing with aticonfig.  Nope, didn't work either, 
> and fglrx-config-display doesn't seem to make any modifications to my 
> xorg.conf.  Finally I stumbled upon livna-config-display, and when I ran 
> it, it ran ldd, and I think *that* was the key which got me working 
> again.  googleearth no longer complains about software emulation mode 
> and glxgears is now giving me between 4500 and 5300 fps.  WOW!
> 
> SO, THANKS FRANK!  I appreciate the hints and helps that caused me to 
> dig deeper.
> 
> I still despair that this stuff has to be so damn complicated, but, such 
> is life.

...Well none of this has worked for me so far. Granted I'm running
rawhide on a ThinkPad T400 and using the ATI drivers from RPMFusion, so
it's beta on top of beta. But the fact is that X loads and is incredibly
slow.

Going back to the stock ATI drivers for now. They don't allow me to run
all of the Compiz eye candy, but at least they're not slow.

If anyone has any better ideas on how to make this all work, I'm open to
hearing about it.

Cheers,

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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Colin Paul Adams
> "Matthew" == Matthew Flaschen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Matthew> Dave Feustel wrote:
>> In vim, entering ctl-V u  works. This does not work for me
>> on the xterm command line (ksh is shell).
>> 
>> Is there a way to enter unicode characters in xterm?

Matthew> One way that will work in any shell is:

Matthew> uc() { /usr/bin/printf \\u$1; };

Matthew> Then, use e.g.

Matthew> echo $(uc 2639)

Matthew> You can export uc from your initialization file.

I just tried this, and I get presented with a

>

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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Matthew Flaschen
Dave Feustel wrote:
> In vim, entering ctl-V u  works. This does not
> work for me on the xterm command line (ksh is shell).
> 
> Is there a way to enter unicode characters in xterm?

One way that will work in any shell is:

uc() { /usr/bin/printf \\u$1; };

Then, use e.g.

echo $(uc 2639)

You can export uc from your initialization file.

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Re: F10/KDE4.1.2: What is the "Show Desktop" widget ?

2008-11-09 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 05 November 2008 21:17, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 14:04 -0500, Linuxguy123 wrote:
> > I just spent some time running the F10/KDE Live CD.  I noticed that
> > there is a "Show Desktop" widget in the widget list.
>
> > I couldn't get it to work.   What is it supposed to do ?
>
> You don't know what it's for but it doesn't work?
>
> Drag it to the desktop. Click on it. Watch the windows disappear. Click
> again. Watch them come back.
>
> (It would be more useful added to the panel, but I don't see an obvious
> way to get that).

Unlock widgets, open the panel settings, click "add widgets...", and add it.

HTH, :-)
Marko

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Re: Sudo from scripts

2008-11-09 Thread Jerry Feldman

On 11/08/2008 10:43 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote:

Jerry Feldman wrote:
  

Over the years I have used sudo from some of my scripts (RHEL 3 and
4,  SuSE (5-11), but I found in Fedora 9 (and CentOS 5.2) that sudo
will fail:

sudo: sorry, you must have a tty to run sudo

In this particular case it was run on a CentOS 5.2 system, but I had
the same issue with Fedora 9. In both cases the user account was set
to NOPASSWD. Actually, on my home system it was my nightly backup
script I run from my crontab. 


There are certainly some easy workarounds, such as running these
scripts from root's cron (cron.daily, cron.weekly, ...), or writing
my own sudo command (which I've done before Sudo arrived). 


Is there now a setting where I can run sudo non-interactively, or is
this a new security restriction. 



It is, as mentioned in /etc/sudoers:

#
# Disable "ssh hostname sudo ", because it will show the password
# in clear.
# You have to run "ssh -t hostname sudo ".
#
Defaultsrequiretty

I don't know if there's a good way to run things via cron and convince
sudo that you have a tty.  If not, you might just comment out the
requiretty setting.

  

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Re: F9 installation

2008-11-09 Thread Jerry Feldman

On 11/06/2008 01:44 PM, Germán Racca wrote:


Hi all:

I want to install Fedora 9 in a computer that already has Fedora 8,
but in a seprate place, just to have 2 different versions in one computer.
I new that in order to do it, I will have to create or resize a partition.
Well, when I run the installation DVD for Fedora 9 I get the following
screen:

Drive /dev/sda (114471 MB) (Model: ATA SAMSUNG HD120IJ)

sda2
114274 MB


   DEVICEMOUNT POINT/VOLUMETYPESIZE (MB)

LVM Volume Groups
  
VolGroup00   
114272

LogVol00
ext3 113216

LogVol01
swap   1024


Hard Drives
  /dev/sda

/dev/sda1 
ext3196
/dev/sda2  VolGroup00  LVM PV 
114275


I have tried to do a lot of thing but no success. How could I get a space
of approximately 30 GB to install another Linux, in my case Fedora 9?
I think Aldo gave you a decent answer. You are stuck with LVM, but you 
still should be able to set up for a dual boot.
Problem 1 is /dev/sda1 is set up as your /boot partition. You will 
probably need to share this which means some manual editing of 
/boot/grub/grub.conf.
Resizing of an LVM logical partition can be accomplished via the 
system-config-lvm graphical LVM utility. Or you can use the 
nonm-graphical commands, such as resize2fs and lvm.


However possibly a better way might be to use a virtual machine, such as 
virtual box, and install Fedora 9 in virtualbox.


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How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Dave Feustel
In vim, entering ctl-V u  works. This does not
work for me on the xterm command line (ksh is shell).

Is there a way to enter unicode characters in xterm?


Thanks.

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Re: Fedora on Mac Book Pro

2008-11-09 Thread Waleed Harbi
Good guide:
http://nareshv.blogspot.com/2008/09/fedora-9-on-macbook-pro-penryn-intel.html
http://www.mactel-linux.org

On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Luc MAIGNAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I try to install Fedora on an external drive and boot it from a Mac Book
> Pro (REFIT as boot loader).
> I setup Grub on the MBR of the external disk.
>
> Unfortunaly, when I try to boot, it tries to boot Windoze :-( !!!
>
> Has anyone experience of such installation ?
>
> BR
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Fedora on Mac Book Pro

2008-11-09 Thread Luc MAIGNAN

Hi,

I try to install Fedora on an external drive and boot it from a Mac Book 
Pro (REFIT as boot loader).

I setup Grub on the MBR of the external disk.

Unfortunaly, when I try to boot, it tries to boot Windoze :-( !!!

Has anyone experience of such installation ?

BR

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Re: how to count nfs clients attached to my server?

2008-11-09 Thread Timothy Murphy
Steve Berg wrote:

> /usr/sbin/showmount will give you a list of IP's connected.

I had never heard of this program, so I ran it and got
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showmount: RPC: Program not registered
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How is one meant to "register" the program?

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Re: RealPlayer 11 and Helix Player 11

2008-11-09 Thread Timothy Murphy
Rahul Sundaram wrote:

> Timothy Murphy wrote:
>> What exactly is the difference between these two programs?
> 
> Helixplayer is the open source project and media player that forms the
> basis of RealPlayer. Realplayer is proprietary and supports a few
> additional codecs.
> 
> https://player.helixcommunity.org/

Thanks.
As always you are a fount of useful information.

But I was at the page you cite,
and found it curious that the two programs are offered side-by-side,
without any clear indication (to me) of the difference between them.

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SOLVED (not verified): how to verify cd

2008-11-09 Thread Henning Larsen
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 14:05 +0300, Waleed Harbi wrote:
> Try this command:
> md5sum FC9.iso
> then compare the results number with FC9 website
> http://fedoraproject.org/en/verify.
> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Henning Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> hi.
> 
> I downloaded the kde pre 10 is, but it does not boot up all
> the way.
> I get a message about fail in /init initramfs.
> I have burned it 2 times, with max speed and lower speed, it
> fails at
> the same place in the boot-process.
> How do I check the cd and / or the iso?
> 
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Thank you.

I'm sorry about this, at least I should have checked the file size, it
was ca 100 megabytes smaller than it should be.

HEnning

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Re: how to verify cd

2008-11-09 Thread Waleed Harbi
Try this command:
md5sum FC9.iso
then compare the results number with FC9 website
http://fedoraproject.org/en/verify.
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Henning Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hi.
>
> I downloaded the kde pre 10 is, but it does not boot up all the way.
> I get a message about fail in /init initramfs.
> I have burned it 2 times, with max speed and lower speed, it fails at
> the same place in the boot-process.
> How do I check the cd and / or the iso?
>
> Henning
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Re: how to count nfs clients attached to my server?

2008-11-09 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia

Steve Berg wrote:

Thomas Cameron wrote:

Skunk Worx wrote:
Is there a way, on a server, to discover how many clients are 
currently attached to a NFS file share?


I'd like to be able to see a list of the clients that have "my" NFS 
share mounted.


It's my understanding /usr/sbin/exportfs gives a list but it is not 
reliable as it depends on clients un-mounting the share properly.


I suppose the nature of NFS makes it impossible to maintain/calculate 
an accurate client list, but I thought I'd ask anyway.


Have a look at /var/lib/nfs/rmtab and other files in /var/lib/nfs/


/usr/sbin/showmount will give you a list of IP's connected.


Hi

It seems that the table shown by showmount it is not updated, because it 
shows clients that are not longer mounting the partition.


Regards

Marcelo

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how to verify cd

2008-11-09 Thread Henning Larsen
hi.

I downloaded the kde pre 10 is, but it does not boot up all the way.
I get a message about fail in /init initramfs.
I have burned it 2 times, with max speed and lower speed, it fails at
the same place in the boot-process.
How do I check the cd and / or the iso?

Henning

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Re: UDF-fs What is it?

2008-11-09 Thread Simon Slater

On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 20:59 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> David Timms wrote:
> > Ed Greshko wrote:
> >> Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> >>> Ed Greshko wrote:
>  3.  Created a DVD in "live" mode on Vista and v2.5 UDF *not*
>  readable on
>  RHELv4.
> 
>  Could not test with F9.
> 
>    
> >>> UDF 2.5 is only readable with kernel 2.6.26 and higher. The latest
> >>> kernel update from Fedora 9 should read a UDF 2.5 disc.
> >>>
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Disk_Format
> >>>
> >> Yes, the operative word being "should".  :-)
> > Are you saying your kernel is higher (on rhel4) ?
> >
> No. 
> 
> Just making the clarification that even though things "should" work
> there are times that they don't.  AKA, bugs.  FWIW, the OP hasn't
> indicated what is being run at his end.
> 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] log]$ uname -r
2.6.23.14-107.fc8



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