Re: Saving Flash

2009-11-18 Thread Howard Eisenberger
On 2009-11-18, Marcel Rieux wrote:

>> I live in Canada and can't even play the videos at cbc.ca/video/
>
> Nothing works from this address for me either. You've got to go to
> the program's site and click the screen that presents the video.

Same difference. What happens when you do "click the screen"? 
Can you watch the full-length video or not? 

Howard E.


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Re: Minor problem with sudo in F12 [solved]

2009-11-18 Thread Joachim Backes

On 11/18/2009 08:07 PM, Joachim Backes wrote:

When entering sudo, there is always a little pause of
about 1 sec, before  is executed. I never had this
behaviour in F11.

How to prevent from this ? Is this a configurable parameter in /etc/sudoers?

All comments are welcome

Kind regards




Solved:

I had misconfigured the network controls: I had to change the hostname, 
and I did it only in /etc/sysconfig/network, not at all other affected 
places.


After having adjusted *all affected* controls, sudo now runs flawless.

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Re: mplayer works, gmplayer doesn't

2009-11-18 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 21:12 -0600, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> What works with mplayer should work with gmplayer, right?

Over quite some time, probably a year or so, I've noticed that gmplayer
would crash (or spew so many errors that it was unusable) with many MPEG
files that mplayer would simply just play.  They're not *exactly* the
same program.

The Gnome mplayer and smplayer seemed better, than gmplayer, if I wanted
a graphical interface.  And when using some of these other "interfaces
to mplayer" it's possible to configure each one differently.  That can
trip you up if you forget that you've tweaked one, but not the other, or
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Re: How to compute sha256sum

2009-11-18 Thread Tony Nelson
On 09-11-19 00:11:27, Reg Clemens wrote:
> This may seem to be a stupid question, but .
> 
> I can download a iso image of Fedora, then do a sha256sum of the file
> and I get the result shown in the SHASUM file.
> 
> I can burn a DVD with k3b, ask for it to verify the checksum, and
> have it say the checksum is OK.
> 
> But if I just do
>   sha256sum /dev/cdrom
> 
> I get a result which is NOT the published sum, even tho k3b said the
> sum was going to be OK.
> 
> So what am I doing wrong?  (and yes cdrom and dvd both point to sr0)

The kernel often copies a bit more data that was requested from a CD / 
DVD (I don't understand why, but I don't think dd is a workaround).  
What I do is just compare the CD / DVD with the original file with `cmp 
dev/dvd my.iso` and I usually get an error like "EOF on my.iso", which 
means that all the data in the original file matches the DVD.

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Re: F12 work around for out of space on /boot for preupgrade?

2009-11-18 Thread Tony Nelson
On 09-11-18 18:36:51, Tim wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 14:16 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > There are ways to move LVM partitions around to make more space 
> > for, and then resize, an existing physical /boot partition... but 
> > none of them are pretty.  (Resizing other partitions dynamically?  
> > Now *that* is easy with LVM, something you can't say otherwise.)
> 
> What about, shrink your LVM partition, add a new large boot 
> partition, use that for the installation, then leave the new one as-
> is, or move the real boot stuff into your old boot partition, then 
> get rid of the new one?

That would work if /boot follows the LVM partition, but not if it is 
before.  But without parted / gparted support, one must still know to 
have free space on the LVM (not allocated to any LV), use pvresize, and 
then shrink the basic partition.  And this is the easy case, where the 
partition doesn't need to be moved.

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Re: How to compute sha256sum

2009-11-18 Thread Reg Clemens

> The problem is that when you read the CD-ROM as a raw device, it will return
> more data than the length of the ISO image; there are almost always some
> additional sectors of padding beyond the end of the image.  Even dd'ing from
> the CD-ROM into shasum won't work unless you tell dd the number of blocks to
> copy, so that you don't include the padding.
> 

OK, thanks, I knew about that at one time,- but you had to remind me about
the problem for me to understand what was going on.
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Re: can anyone build guile-1.8.7 on f12?

2009-11-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Robert P. J. Day  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >  long story short:  can anyone running f12 download the guile-1.8.7
> > > tarball from here:
> > >
> > >  ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/guile/guile-1.8.7.tar.gz
> > >
> > > and just do the basic:
> > >
> > >  $ ./configure
> > >  $ make
> > >
> > > and see if it builds?  i'm still running a frankenstein version of
> > > rawhide-updated f11 and it's failing for me, and i won't have time to
> > > do the f12 fresh install until this weekend.  i just want to know if
> > > that's going to solve the problem.  a simple yes or no is all i'm
> > > after.
> > >
> > > rday
> > >
> > > p.s.  you'll need to install libtool-ltdl-devel for that build.
> > >
> >
> > F-12 already has a guile-1.8.7 rpm package.
> >
> > yum install guile
> > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=330
>
>   i know, but that's not the issue.  longer story -- i'm trying to
> build it as part of a larger openembedded image, and the native build
> of that package keeps failing.  as a test, i just tried what i was
> suggesting -- grab the tarball, download it and configure and make, to
> use as a benchmark for a native build.  that *also* failed on this
> system, which allows me to at least suspect it's not an OE issue, it's
> a guile build issue related to fedora, or at least related to this
> dog's breakfast version of fedora i have running now.
>
>   i just want to know if a stock f12 system can build that package
> from tarball.

  in fact, downloading the source rpm for guile-1.8.7 and using
"rpmbuild" to try to build the binary also fails with the same error.
i think it's BZ time.

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Re: can anyone build guile-1.8.7 on f12?

2009-11-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Robert P. J. Day  
> wrote:
> >
> >  long story short:  can anyone running f12 download the guile-1.8.7
> > tarball from here:
> >
> >  ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/guile/guile-1.8.7.tar.gz
> >
> > and just do the basic:
> >
> >  $ ./configure
> >  $ make
> >
> > and see if it builds?  i'm still running a frankenstein version of
> > rawhide-updated f11 and it's failing for me, and i won't have time to
> > do the f12 fresh install until this weekend.  i just want to know if
> > that's going to solve the problem.  a simple yes or no is all i'm
> > after.
> >
> > rday
> >
> > p.s.  you'll need to install libtool-ltdl-devel for that build.
> >
>
> F-12 already has a guile-1.8.7 rpm package.
>
> yum install guile
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=330

  i know, but that's not the issue.  longer story -- i'm trying to
build it as part of a larger openembedded image, and the native build
of that package keeps failing.  as a test, i just tried what i was
suggesting -- grab the tarball, download it and configure and make, to
use as a benchmark for a native build.  that *also* failed on this
system, which allows me to at least suspect it's not an OE issue, it's
a guile build issue related to fedora, or at least related to this
dog's breakfast version of fedora i have running now.

  i just want to know if a stock f12 system can build that package
from tarball.

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Re: can anyone build guile-1.8.7 on f12?

2009-11-18 Thread Chitlesh GOORAH
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Robert P. J. Day  wrote:
>
>  long story short:  can anyone running f12 download the guile-1.8.7
> tarball from here:
>
>  ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/guile/guile-1.8.7.tar.gz
>
> and just do the basic:
>
>  $ ./configure
>  $ make
>
> and see if it builds?  i'm still running a frankenstein version of
> rawhide-updated f11 and it's failing for me, and i won't have time to
> do the f12 fresh install until this weekend.  i just want to know if
> that's going to solve the problem.  a simple yes or no is all i'm
> after.
>
> rday
>
> p.s.  you'll need to install libtool-ltdl-devel for that build.
>

F-12 already has a guile-1.8.7 rpm package.

yum install guile
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=330

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Re: Silent mounting of disks? Unwanted.

2009-11-18 Thread Andy Campbell

>>One workaround I found is to explicitly include the filesystem in /etc/
>>fstab.  But add the option noauto this stops it getting mount e.g.
>>
>>  ... ext3noauto,defaults 0 0 ...
>>
>>Andy
>>
> That may be a way to stop it, but it has never happened before, and I
> would rather find out what did do it.
> 
> Thanks Andy.
> 

Are you sure you didn't get one of those pop up windows asking you 
to type in the root password to Authorize something, and did read
it properly ?

I you un-mount the filesystems/reboot and log in as another user are they
remounted ?  Stuff on /media is usually mount by gnome-mount I believe
same if you inserted a CD in the DVD drive or plugged in a flash drive
in your USB port.

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Re: How to compute sha256sum

2009-11-18 Thread Eric Smith
The problem is that when you read the CD-ROM as a raw device, it will return
more data than the length of the ISO image; there are almost always some
additional sectors of padding beyond the end of the image.  Even dd'ing from
the CD-ROM into shasum won't work unless you tell dd the number of blocks to
copy, so that you don't include the padding.

Try something like
dd if=/dev/sr0 of=foo.img bs=2k count=`isosize -d 2048 /dev/sr0` |
sha256sum -

Note the backquotes for command substitution of the output of isosize.

I haven't tried this just now, so it's possible that I've got the details
wrong.

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can anyone build guile-1.8.7 on f12?

2009-11-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  long story short:  can anyone running f12 download the guile-1.8.7
tarball from here:

  ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/guile/guile-1.8.7.tar.gz

and just do the basic:

  $ ./configure
  $ make

and see if it builds?  i'm still running a frankenstein version of
rawhide-updated f11 and it's failing for me, and i won't have time to
do the f12 fresh install until this weekend.  i just want to know if
that's going to solve the problem.  a simple yes or no is all i'm
after.

rday

p.s.  you'll need to install libtool-ltdl-devel for that build.

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Re: connect Evolution 2.28 to MS exchange 2007 on Fedora 12

2009-11-18 Thread L
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Mail Llists  wrote:
> On 11/18/2009 10:15 PM, L wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> One of main reasons for upgrade  F11 to F12 was to hope to connect
>> evolution 2.28 to Exchange 2007. After a smooth upgrade to F12. I
>> tried to connect evolution 2.28 with evo-mapi to M$ exchange server.
>> no luck at all, it crashed every time. The insttiute's exchange server
>> does not open imap port.   i you have sucessful connection, please
>> share with me
>>
>> best
>>
>> Y
>>
>
>  The only thing I have found that works is to install XP and outlook
> 2007 in a VM.
>
>  There is no limux client that works. (As of today anyway).
>
>  You also might try the brutus server approach - but I didnt explore
> that too much.
>
>   Good luck.
>


That's what I have, XP on VirtualBox. but I do hope linux evolution
will connect to MS exchange via mapi
Some guys talked about working evolution 2.28 (maybe on ubuntu??)


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Re: F12 installs report here.

2009-11-18 Thread James Harrison
My output from preupgrade.

Fedora 12 beta to Fedora 12 release.

64 bit cpu


[r...@pc64 ~]# preupgrade
Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "gnomebreakpad": libgnomebreakpad.so:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/__init__.py:210: UserWarning:
Use .preconf instead of passing args to _getConfig
  warnings.warn('Use .preconf instead of passing args to _getConfig')
Loaded plugins: blacklist, fastestmirror, presto, refresh-packagekit,
whiteout
preupgrade-main (mirrorlist) 
  url: http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-12&arch=
$basearch
  now:
http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-12&arch=x86_64
Determining fastest mirrors
 * rawhide: mirror.ipnode.info
preupgrade (mirrorlist) 
  url:
http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?path=pub/fedora/linux/releases/12/Fedora/$basearch/os
  now:
http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?path=pub/fedora/linux/releases/12/Fedora/x86_64/os
Checking for new repos for mirrors
 * preupgrade-main: mirror.umoss.org
unknown metadata being downloaded: repomd0jlxVHtmp.xml
preupgrade-rawhide (mirrorlist) 
  url:
https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=rawhide&arch=x86_64
  now:
https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=rawhide&arch=x86_64
Checking for new repos for mirrors
unknown metadata being downloaded: metalink.xml.tmp
unknown metadata being downloaded: repomdOKwksytmp.xml
unknown metadata being downloaded: MEMORY
Fetched treeinfo from
http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/releases/12/Fedora/x86_64/os//.treeinfo
treeinfo timestamp: Sun Nov  8 19:04:33 2009
unknown metadata being downloaded: MEMORY
unknown metadata being downloaded: MEMORY
Checking for new repos for mirrors
 * preupgrade-rawhide: mirror.ipnode.info
cluster-snmp-0.16.1-2.fc12.x86_64 from installed has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: libnetsnmp.so.15()(64bit) is needed by package
cluster-snmp-0.16.1-2.fc12.x86_64 (installed)
cluster-glue-1.0-0.11.b79635605337.hg.fc12.x86_64 from installed has
depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: libnetsnmp.so.15()(64bit) is needed by package
cluster-glue-1.0-0.11.b79635605337.hg.fc12.x86_64 (installed)
Downloading 940.2MB
Available disk space for /var/cache/yum/preupgrade: 3.0GB
Setting up and reading Presto delta metadata
unknown metadata being downloaded:
3b9680356ccd8f8878dbc8a6cafa4c28e610e082e0248df57ae6952246826b3c-prestodelta.xml.gz
Processing delta metadata
/etc/cron.d/smolt: contents have been changed
delta does not match installed data
Download delta size: 57 M
unknown metadata being downloaded:
ModemManager-0.2-3.20090826.fc12_0.2-4.20091105.fc13.x86_64.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
NetworkManager-openconnect-0.7.996-4.git20090921.fc12_0.7.996-4.git20090921.fc13.x86_64.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
NetworkManager-openvpn-0.7.996-4.git20090923.fc12_0.7.996-4.git20090923.fc13.x86_64.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
NetworkManager-pptp-0.7.996-4.git20090921.fc12_0.7.996-4.git20090921.fc13.x86_64.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
OpenIPMI-2.0.16-4.fc12_2.0.16-5.fc13.x86_64.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
OpenIPMI-libs-2.0.16-4.fc12_2.0.16-5.fc13.x86_64.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
SDL-1.2.13-10.fc12_1.2.14-1.fc13.x86_64.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
SDL-devel-1.2.13-10.fc12_1.2.14-1.fc13.x86_64.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
at-3.1.10-39.fc12_3.1.11-1.fc13.x86_64.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
atk-1.28.0-1.fc12_1.28.0-1.fc13.x86_64.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
atk-devel-1.28.0-1.fc12_1.28.0-1.fc13.x86_64.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
audit-2.0.1-1.fc12_2.0.3-1.fc13.x86_64.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
audit-libs-2.0.1-1.fc12_2.0.3-1.fc13.x86_64.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
audit-libs-python-2.0.1-1.fc12_2.0.3-1.fc13.x86_64.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
authconfig-5.4.13-1.fc12_5.4.14-1.fc13.x86_64.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
authconfig-gtk-5.4.13-1.fc12_5.4.14-1.fc13.x86_64.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
autoconf-2.63-3.fc12_2.64-1.fc13.noarch.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
automake-1.11-3.fc12_1.11-4.fc13.noarch.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
bash-4.0.33-1.fc12_4.0.35-1.fc13.x86_64.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
bind-libs-9.6.1-11.P1.fc12_9.7.0-0.7.b2.fc13.x86_64.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
bitmap-fonts-0.3-9.fc12_0.3-9.fc13.noarch.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
cjkuni-ukai-fonts-0.2.20080216.1-27.fc12_0.2.20080216.1-31.fc13.noarch.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
cjkuni-uming-fonts-0.2.20080216.1-27.fc12_0.2.20080216.1-31.fc13.noarch.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
clusterlib-3.0.4-1.fc12_3.0.4-1.fc13.x86_64.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
cman-3.0.4-1.fc12_3.0.4-1.fc13.x86_64.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
coreutils-7.6-5.fc12_8.0-2.fc13.x86_64.drpm
unknown metadata being downloaded:
cpu

Re: How to compute sha256sum

2009-11-18 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Reg Clemens  wrote:

> This may seem to be a stupid question, but .
>
> I can download a iso image of Fedora, then do a sha256sum of the file
> and I get the result shown in the SHASUM file.
>
> I can burn a DVD with k3b, ask for it to verify the checksum, and
> have it say the checksum is OK.
>
> But if I just do
>sha256sum /dev/cdrom
>
> I get a result which is NOT the published sum, even tho k3b said the
> sum was going to be OK.
>
> So what am I doing wrong?  (and yes cdrom and dvd both point to sr0)
>
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Try

dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/reg/DVD-image.iso

Then

sha256sum /home/reg/DVD-image.iso

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How to compute sha256sum

2009-11-18 Thread Reg Clemens
This may seem to be a stupid question, but .

I can download a iso image of Fedora, then do a sha256sum of the file
and I get the result shown in the SHASUM file.

I can burn a DVD with k3b, ask for it to verify the checksum, and
have it say the checksum is OK.

But if I just do
sha256sum /dev/cdrom

I get a result which is NOT the published sum, even tho k3b said the
sum was going to be OK.

So what am I doing wrong?  (and yes cdrom and dvd both point to sr0)

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Re: Can't reach cheapbytes store

2009-11-18 Thread Bill Davidsen

Aaron Konstam wrote:

I am trying to buy a F12 DVD from cheapbytes but when I click on the
enter the store link I get an error.
Does anyone have another seller of the DVD that I can use or can tell be
how to reach cheapbytes?


They seem a victim of their success, other seem to have had the same idea and 
server ran out of balls^H^H^H^H^resources. The page is a redirect, source is:




CheapBytes Store




 The Best Open Source Site on the Net! 


Hope the dumb mail filter doesn't decide I'm posting in HTML... :-(

The cgi-bin isn't getting run, probably sick with too many orders. I would 
expect it to resume working soon, and you can order from them. They've been 
around a while, I use them sometimes myself.


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Running without sound hardware

2009-11-18 Thread Bill Davidsen
It looks as if the problem I was trying to bug report with metacity crashing is 
due to lack of sound hardware. Even though I disabled generation of stupid 
sounds in preferences, doing anything which might generate a sound causes a 
metacity crash.


The things I was doing were clicking another desktop in the selector or trying 
to use TAB to complete a filename.


Anyone running in real or virtual hardware with no sound seeing this?

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Re: Silent mounting of disks? Unwanted.

2009-11-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 November 2009, Andy Campbell wrote:
>> So, how did those 6 partitions get mounted?  Inquiring minds want to
>> know.  I didn't do it, and I'm the only operator here.
>
>This may not be true for F10, but on F11 it would be worth checking
>Authorizations, on F11 its System->Preferences->Authorizations.
>
>Look for disks -> Mount a system-internal device
>
>If its enabled for your account, or Active console, then they get
>automatically mounted.
>
>One workaround I found is to explicitly include the filesystem in /etc/
>fstab.  But add the option noauto this stops it getting mount e.g.
>
>  ... ext3noauto,defaults 0 0 ...
>
>Andy
>
That may be a way to stop it, but it has never happened before, and I would 
rather find out what did do it.

Thanks Andy.

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Re: connect Evolution 2.28 to MS exchange 2007 on Fedora 12

2009-11-18 Thread Mail Llists
On 11/18/2009 10:15 PM, L wrote:
> Hi
> 
> One of main reasons for upgrade  F11 to F12 was to hope to connect
> evolution 2.28 to Exchange 2007. After a smooth upgrade to F12. I
> tried to connect evolution 2.28 with evo-mapi to M$ exchange server.
> no luck at all, it crashed every time. The insttiute's exchange server
> does not open imap port.   i you have sucessful connection, please
> share with me
> 
> best
> 
> Y
> 

  The only thing I have found that works is to install XP and outlook
2007 in a VM.

  There is no limux client that works. (As of today anyway).

  You also might try the brutus server approach - but I didnt explore
that too much.

   Good luck.

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Re: disabling automount in Fedora 12

2009-11-18 Thread Eric Smith
Thanks Tom!  That at least gave me a hint as to where this is happening.  I
used the sledgehammer approach of removing the DeviceKit-disks package
entirely.  That works, but a very cryptic error window does pop up every
time I plug in a disk, and I don't get optical media automounted either.
There ought to be a better solution, but this at least solves my immediate
problem.

Years ago, there was a media preferences item that had simple checkboxes to
control automounting.  It would be nice if that came back.  At some point it
went away in favor of the authorizations which has now gone away as well.  I
think someone was confused, as setting system policy for who has permission
to mount devices should be completely orthogonal to whether a particular
user wants devices automounted.  In other words, just because I have
permission from the administrator doesn't mean that I always want it to
happen; I should still be able to disable it.  (Obviously if the
administrator doesn't give me permission, the user setting to enable it
isn't going to actually let me mount disks.)

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Writing DVDs on F11

2009-11-18 Thread Paolo Galtieri
I have a 64bit laptop running F11.  I downloaded both the i386 and x86_64
versions of the F12 DVD iso images.  When I bring up the file browser, right
click on the i386 iso image and select write to disk when the write
completes I get an error message indicating that some of the files on the
disk may be corrupted.  This error occurred 3 out of 3 times.  I did the
same thing with the x86_64  iso image and it had no error 2 out of 2 times.
So what the heck is going on?  Is this a problem with brasero or a problem
with the driver for my cdrom?

Here's the output of lspci

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and
945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and
945GT Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition
Audio Controller (rev 01)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port
1 (rev 01)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port
2 (rev 01)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port
3 (rev 01)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port
4 (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI
Controller #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI
Controller #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI
Controller #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI
Controller #4 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI
Controller (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e1)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge
(rev 01)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) SATA IDE
Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller (rev
01)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72GL [Quadro FX 350M]
(rev a1)
03:01.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. Cardbus bridge (rev 21)
03:01.4 FireWire (IEEE 1394): O2 Micro, Inc. Firewire (IEEE 1394) (rev 02)
09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5752 Gigabit
Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02)
0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan]
Network Connection (rev 02)

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Re: mplayer works, gmplayer doesn't

2009-11-18 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, Michael Hennebry wrote:


On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, Julian Weißgerber wrote:


On Wednesday 18 November 2009 at 05:58:32, Michael Hennebry wrote:

gmplayer only produces audio, a control thingie,
and an error message where the video should be:
Error opening/initializing the selected video_out(-vo) device.


I remembered wrong.
When I got the error message, I didn't get audio,
but I did get an inoperable control thingie.

Sometimes, the video window wouldn't show at all.
In those cases, I got audio and a control thingie.

Sorry about the misinformation.



Try selecting another video output driver in gmplayer's preference's video
tab. x11 should always work, although it's slower than xv and causes 
tearing.

Depending on your video card/drivers xv or opengl may be better choices.


x11 didn't work.
I'll try the others when I get home.
Is there a reason the failure would be specific to gmplayer?
I was under the impression that they both drove the same backend.
Can I use -vo instead of the tab?


-vo xv, -vo ogl and -vo opengl didn't work either.
My expectation is that I haven't got the right
incantation to make gmplayer skins work.

What works with mplayer should work with gmplayer, right?


Even with mplayer,
there was colored flicering crud at the bottom of the window.


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connect Evolution 2.28 to MS exchange 2007 on Fedora 12

2009-11-18 Thread L
Hi

One of main reasons for upgrade  F11 to F12 was to hope to connect
evolution 2.28 to Exchange 2007. After a smooth upgrade to F12. I
tried to connect evolution 2.28 with evo-mapi to M$ exchange server.
no luck at all, it crashed every time. The insttiute's exchange server
does not open imap port.   i you have sucessful connection, please
share with me

best

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Gnome: Fedora 12 Cant get rid of USA keyboard definition.

2009-11-18 Thread Leslie Satenstein
Cant get rid of USA keyboard definition.

Dont know what to do in regards to filing a bug. My system default has the 
French Canadian keyboard ca(fr) as the default.  In fact, when my user was 
created, it was not selected, and I had the USA keyboard as default (GNOME).

Adding the "French Canadian" in GNOME and setting it as a default in GNOME does 
not work until I delete the USA entry, after which the keyboard characters are 
translated correctly until logout. In logging in again, my French Canadian 
Keyboard is still the default, but the USA definition is has returned, not as a 
default, but has usurped the CF keyboard. How do I fix this problem 
permenantly?   
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Re: How to update menu entries on XFCE

2009-11-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/18/2009 05:43 PM, Paul Smith wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> How to update menu entries on XFCE?
> 
> Thanks in advance,

Can you be more specific? Have you tried using alacarte?

Rahul

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Re: Fedora 12 install grief

2009-11-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/18/2009 04:46 PM, James Allsopp wrote:
> Hi,
> Downloaded the x86_64 install, checked the checcksum, burnt the dvd and
> checked as part of the install.
> 
> Plus point, looks very nice!
> 
> Got to the setting up filesystems, i've 2x1tb and a 120gb drive.
> 
> Set each of the tb drives as 300mb boot (ext3), 4gb swap, and everything
> else as raid 1. I set one of the \boot partitions as /boot. I placed an
> lvm of top of the RAID. In the lvm, I placed a /25gb, /usr 30gb, /var,
> 20gb /tmp 10gb (all ext4) and about 800gb /home.
> 
> I set the 120gb drive as lvm and placed one 20gb partition in it.
> 
> The installer then crashed and hard locked. I'm writing this from
> memory, and can't remember the exact error.
> 
> Am I doing anything stupid?

Not really but we need the exact error. can you try again?

Rahul

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Re: [F12] Error from ABRT while sending report

2009-11-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/18/2009 03:21 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote:
> Dear F12 users,
> 
> I'm trying to send a report with ABRT but I receive this error:
> 
> XML-RPC Fault: libcurl failed to execute the HTTP POST transaction.
> Couldn't resolve host 'bugzilla.redhat.com'(-504)
> 
> So what do you think is the problem?
> 
> Thank you very much!

Some sort of a curl bug iirc. Adding it to /etc/hosts manually is a
workaround for now.

Rahul

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Re: [F12] Icons in the Firefox search bar

2009-11-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/18/2009 04:00 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote:
> Dear F12 users,
> 
> I cannot see any icon in the Firefox search bar when I click for
> changing the search engine.
> More specifically, in the search bar
> * I see the icon of the current search engine
> * when I click for changing the search engine, no icon appears in the
> list of available search engine.
> 
> I'm sure that on F11 (which I have installed until yesterday) I was
> able to see those icons.
> 
> Any idea?
> 
> Thank you very much!!

Seems to be an upstream Firefox change rather than something Fedora
specific.

Rahul

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Re: F12 installs report here.

2009-11-18 Thread BobW
Although I normally do a clean install, this time I put in the dvd and
elected to upgrade instead of doing a clean install.

It went without a hitch, and even set grub to boot to a command screen
and not the gui. It was a great experience, every thing works without
having to go through all the configuring with a clean install.

I will do my laptop tomorrow, and am considering a clean install on it.

On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 08:01 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote:
> Subject says it all.  Tell us about your experience. 
> 
> LG
> 

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Re: disabling automount in Fedora 12

2009-11-18 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:41:47 -0800
Eric Smith wrote:

> What do I need to put in a config file or rip out of
> the system to keep it from automounting?

I added the file /etc/udev/rules.d/99-zzz-local.rules
which contains a bunch of lines like:

ENV{ID_FS_LABEL}=="BACKUP", ENV{DKD_PRESENTATION_HIDE}="1"

to hide specific devices with specific disk labels, possibly
something similar with some kind of wildcard could hide everything?

Of course, the technique I use most of the time is to just
not run Gnome or KDE, so none of the nautilus nonsense
goes on in the first place :-).

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F12 fixed the sound problems F11 introduced on my machine, and does better automatic X config

2009-11-18 Thread Eric Smith
I had the dreaded "low volume" problem with Fedora 11, and none of the
things I tried would fix it, but with Fedora 12 I don't have the problem.
Woo-hoo!

Also, Fedora 12 figured out by itself to put my two monitors side-by-side,
rather than mirrored.  With Fedora 11 it took me several hours to figure out
how to craft a suitable xorg.conf, but with Fedora 12 it "just works".

Kudos to everyone involved!

Eric
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disabling automount in Fedora 12

2009-11-18 Thread Eric Smith
With each successive release of Fedora, it gets more difficult to disable
automounting of disk drives.  The manual page for DeviceKit is one of the
least helpful ever.  What do I need to put in a config file or rip out of
the system to keep it from automounting?

I don't particularly need fine-grained control over who and what gets
automounting.  I just want it disabled, period.  I routinely have to plug in
questionable devices for diagnostic purposes, and I don't want any attempt
made to do anything to the filesystems on these devices until I say so.

Thanks,
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Re: man 3 switch

2009-11-18 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Cameron Simpson wrote:


On 16Nov2009 10:54, Rick Stevens  wrote:
| Another example is that a null pointer (or the value "NUL") is not
| necessarily zero, only that it is guaranteed to not point at any valid
| datum.

Actually, it requires it to behave like 0 in an arithmetic context.


More precisely, it's required to behave like 0 in a boolean context.
It's not allowed in any other arithmetic context.
1 + ptr is invalid if ptr is null.
1 + !!ptr is 1 if ptr is null.


But it _doesn't_ require it to be stored as a zero in the machine
memory. That's why I cringe whenever I see someone use calloc() or


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Re: man 3 switch

2009-11-18 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 16Nov2009 10:54, Rick Stevens  wrote:
| Another example is that a null pointer (or the value "NUL") is not
| necessarily zero, only that it is guaranteed to not point at any valid
| datum.

Actually, it requires it to behave like 0 in an arithmetic context.
But it _doesn't_ require it to be stored as a zero in the machine
memory. That's why I cringe whenever I see someone use calloc() or
memset() and expect the contents to be valid zeroes of whatever type or
valid NULL pointers.

Anyway, Frank should get a copy of Kernighan and Richie or a copy of the
C89 or C99 ISO standards. The first two are very readable and I'm sure
the last is too.

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Re: Interview with Paul Frields about Fedora 12 and the Fedora community

2009-11-18 Thread Bob McConnell

D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:

| From: Dave Stevens 

| Quoting Bruce Byfield :
| 
| >In case anyone is interested;

| >
| >http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3848891/Building-On-Ramps-
| >on-the-Fedora-12-Highway.htm
| 
| Bruce, you gotta use tinyurl.


Is there an easy way to see what a tinyurl points to without actually
going there?  I don't like disguised URLs.

What Bruce needs is a Mail User Agent that doesn't fold lines that
shouldn't be folded.  I don't know if he can tame his MUA,
KMail/1.12.2.

I think that alpine is OK:
  
http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3848891/Building-On-Ramps-on-the-Fedora-12-Highway.htm



The other option is to put angle brackets around the long URL. Many 
clients will pick up the full line inside them even if it is folded.




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Re: internet (without LAN) monthly traffic statistics

2009-11-18 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 20:09:06 -0500,
  Bill Davidsen  wrote:
> If the NIC sees all the packets you can get a rough approximation:

If his ISP is counting packets that get dropped before they get to
is end of the local loop he won't have a way to know.

If his ISP isn't providing him this information easily, but still planning
on doing bad things if he exceeds the limit, he should be complaining to
the ISP and possibly trying to find another one.

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Re: sound in Flash

2009-11-18 Thread Michael Cronenworth

On 11/18/2009 04:50 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:


Yep: yum install pulseaudio-libs.i686
   


There is a 64-bit Flash plugin you know. Official. Downloadable off 
adobe.com. No need for 32-bit firefox or 32-bit pulse-libs.


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Re: internet (without LAN) monthly traffic statistics

2009-11-18 Thread Bill Davidsen

Tony Nelson wrote:

On 09-11-18 09:32:54, Ryan Lynch wrote:

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 09:27, Dj YB  wrote:

iptraf is really complicated and require too many changes,
vnstat doesn't support the separation using single interface...
any help on this matter will be greatly appreciated.
Cacti is good at this, and I think MRTG can do it, too. But neither 
of those is simple to set up. I'd give them a try, though, you might 
do OK.


Depending on exactly what numbers you need, NTop is also a
possibility. It's dead easy to set up, and it's capable of breaking
out separate interfaces. The level of detail will be enormous, but
it's actually (IMHO) much easier/faster to get running than either
Cacti or MRTG.

If you're good with any scripting languages, you might want to
consider just polling the kernel's interface counters, yourself, via 
a regular 'cron' job. That might not be an option, though, depending 
on your skill level.


If the problem is sorting out which traffic went through the pay 
connection, perhaps IPTables could be used.  Just an idea...



If the NIC sees all the packets you can get a rough approximation:
 iptables -I INPUT ! -s 10.0.1.0/24  #<- your LAN net address here
 iptables -I OUTPUT ! -s 10.0.1.0/24 #<- and here

run that at the start of the month, then
 iptables -L INPUT -nv | head
 iptables -L OUTPUT -nv | head

would give you the packets and bytes sent to (received from) non-local IP 
addresses. Ugly, inconvenient, must be started at the beginning of the month, 
data lost on reboot, all of which you could hack around with clever scripts, but 
there must be a better way.


The better way is probably MRTG or similar, which are complex to install, then 
work well and do what you want. I'd skip iptables, it's pretty ugly and high 
overhead to do right.


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Re: Re: low res after F12 upgrade

2009-11-18 Thread Todd Denniston

Greg Woods wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM:

On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 14:28 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

You can probably make an xorg.conf file to get around this. 


I don't think I have enough knowledge of xorg.conf internals to do this.
I may just have a go at an over-the-top install if this is my only
option.

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You mentioned being able to "restore my F11 system from backup".
Did that backup have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
if so, try pulling a copy of just that file which may have the appropriate [h|v]sync and mode lines 
in it.
another alternative is if /var/log/Xorg.0.log* got backed up, restore those to /tmp and look in them 
for the appropriate information (takes a bit to grok them, but the info is there).


Todd, who is thanking himself for backing up the /etc/X11/xorg.conf from the old laptop that 
recently got updated. :)

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Re: Can't reach cheapbytes store

2009-11-18 Thread Ed Greshko
Aaron Konstam wrote:
> I am trying to buy a F12 DVD from cheapbytes but when I click on the
> enter the store link I get an error.
> Does anyone have another seller of the DVD that I can use or can tell be
> how to reach cheapbytes?
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I had no problem  There was a redirect to
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Re: hosed preupgrade-cli, can I reset it?

2009-11-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/19/2009 05:42 AM, Hugh Caley wrote:
> I seem to have hosed preupgrade-cli on my Fedora 11 x86_64 box.  Is
> there any way to reset it and try again?

>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/preupgrade/__init__.py", line
> 328, in complete_repo_setup
> repo._grabfunc.opts.user_agent = __user_agent__
> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'opts'

Refer to

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=538118

Rahul

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hosed preupgrade-cli, can I reset it?

2009-11-18 Thread Hugh Caley
I seem to have hosed preupgrade-cli on my Fedora 11 x86_64 box.  Is 
there any way to reset it and try again?


Here's the error:

...
preupgrade-rpmfusion-nonfree-updates (mirrorlist)
  url: 
http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora-updates-released-12&arch=x86_64
  now: 
http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora-updates-released-12&arch=x86_64

preupgrade-updates (mirrorlist)
  url: 
https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=updates-released-f12&arch=x86_64
  now: 
https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=updates-released-f12&arch=x86_64

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-cli.py", line 305, in 
pu.main(myrelease)
  File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-cli.py", line 175, in main
self.setup(myrelease)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/preupgrade/__init__.py", line 
130, in setup

self.complete_repo_setup()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/preupgrade/__init__.py", line 
328, in complete_repo_setup

repo._grabfunc.opts.user_agent = __user_agent__
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'opts'

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Automatic bug reporter - not

2009-11-18 Thread Bill Davidsen
After going to dinner and doing some other work, about 90 minutes in all, the 
ABR finished "Determining list of packages for 1 missing debuginfos" and 
downloaded what it needed. And then it asked if I wanted to send the report, one 
tiny section at a time, and then said connection to bugzilla failed.


Someone should look at the bug reported in SeaMonkey and see how it's done. Long 
delays, report failures, expecting the user to have a login on the report 
collecting site?


The live CD was a delight, the install is crap, metacity fails constantly, 
libcanberra crashes, etc, etc.


I knew that if X kept crashing I should boot in a terminal and run 'yum upgrade' 
from cli, but the average user may not. And fully updated it still doesn't work 
in X, the reported tool is unusably slow etc.


I'm going to try install from the live CD next, the DVD has bugs and the bug 
reporter does as well. Maybe I'll see if KDE is stable, although the GNOME was 
great in the Live-CD.


Don't expect any bug reporter from me, it's still looking for the debuginfo for 
one package, 71 minutes later. Life is too short for a tool like that, fc13 will 
be out before it finishes. ;-)


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Re: F12 work around for out of space on /boot for preupgrade?

2009-11-18 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 14:16 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> There are ways to move LVM partitions around to make more space for,
> and then resize, an existing physical /boot partition... but none of
> them are pretty.  (Resizing other partitions dynamically?  Now *that*
> is easy with LVM, something you can't say otherwise.)

What about, shrink your LVM partition, add a new large boot partition,
use that for the installation, then leave the new one as-is, or move the
real boot stuff into your old boot partition, then get rid of the new
one?

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will yum-plugin-priorities fix my adobe repo problems?

2009-11-18 Thread Tom Horsley
I installed the adobe yum repo in my x86_64 f12 system
at work.

I then tried to install adobe reader and flash, and
the english adobe reader tried to drag in the spanish
adobe reader and flash tried to drag in the swedish
adobe reader :-).

My theory is that some 32 bit libs that reader and flash need
are packaged up with some versions of reader in other
languages, so it tried to grab them from the same repo.

When I just downloaded the 2 rpms I wanted, disabled
the adobe repo, and did a yum localinstall, it was
able to download all the 32 bit libs it needed from
the proper fedora repos, and they both installed with
no problem.

Would it be safe to re-enable the adobe repo if I add
the yum-plugin-priorities package and configure the
adobe repo priority so low it has to reach up to
touch the bottom? :-).

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Re: F12 failed to update F10

2009-11-18 Thread Aaron Gray
2009/11/18 Rahul Sundaram :
> On 11/19/2009 02:43 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:
>> On 11/18/2009 12:23 PM, Aaron Gray wrote:
>>> FYI
>>>
>>> I had to reinstall F12 from scratch after it failing to boot on an F10
>>> update.
>>
>> IIRC, it is not recommended to skip versions with update or preupgrade.
>> In other words, F10-->F12 isn't supported.  F10-->F11--F12 would be,
>> with an intermediate stop at F11.
>
> I don't think that's the case. Fedora 10 - Fedora 12 *should* work fine.

It did the little filling up icon, then the Fedora icon, then blank
text screen with two flashing cursors at the beginning of the first
two lines, then a single cursor, no disk activity. A ctrl-alt-del did
a normal shutdown. Tried a few times and thats as far as I got.

Installing F12 from scratch worked fine though, though I lost my GIT
server setup, and other misc things :(

Aaron

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Re: low res after F12 upgrade

2009-11-18 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 17:44:34 -0500,
  Jim  wrote:
> What cvt command do you give to get modelines.
> I've tried using cvt without results.

[br...@cerberus ~]$ cvt 1280 1024 70
# 1280x1024 69.83 Hz (CVT) hsync: 74.65 kHz; pclk: 129.00 MHz
Modeline "1280x1024_70.00"  129.00  1280 1368 1504 1728  1024 1027 1034 1069 
-hsync +vsync

You check the stuff on the comment line against your video card's and monitor's
specs to make sure you aren't doing something bad.

cvt is provided by the xorg-x11-server-Xorg package so you should have it
on a machine using a graphic display.

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Re: sound in Flash

2009-11-18 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:29:55 +
N James Bridge wrote:

> Any ideas?

Yep: yum install pulseaudio-libs.i686

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Re: low res after F12 upgrade

2009-11-18 Thread Jim

On 11/18/2009 05:38 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 13:54:39 -0700,
   Greg Woods  wrote:
   

On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 14:28 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

 

You can probably make an xorg.conf file to get around this.
   

I don't think I have enough knowledge of xorg.conf internals to do this.
I may just have a go at an over-the-top install if this is my only
option.
 

Here is a sample config I did for an nVidia card. You may need to change
some stuff. You can use cvt to make new mode lines.

# Xorg configuration created by system-config-display

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "single head configuration"
Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

# keyboard added by system-config-display
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "kbd"
Option  "XkbModel" "pc105+inet"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor0"
ModelName"NEC MultiSync LCD2010X"
HorizSync31.0 - 80.0
VertRefresh  56.0 - 85.0
Modeline "1280x1024_70.00"  129.00  1280 1368 1504 1728  1024 1027 1034 
1069 -hsync +vsync
Option  "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Videocard0"
Driver  "nouveau"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
Monitor"Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Virtual 1280 1024
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024_70.00"
EndSubSection
EndSection

   

What cvt command do you give to get modelines.
I've tried using cvt without results.

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Re: low res after F12 upgrade

2009-11-18 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 13:54:39 -0700,
  Greg Woods  wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 14:28 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> 
> > 
> > You can probably make an xorg.conf file to get around this. 
> 
> I don't think I have enough knowledge of xorg.conf internals to do this.
> I may just have a go at an over-the-top install if this is my only
> option.

Here is a sample config I did for an nVidia card. You may need to change
some stuff. You can use cvt to make new mode lines.

# Xorg configuration created by system-config-display

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "single head configuration"
Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

# keyboard added by system-config-display
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "kbd"
Option  "XkbModel" "pc105+inet"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor0"
ModelName"NEC MultiSync LCD2010X"
HorizSync31.0 - 80.0
VertRefresh  56.0 - 85.0
Modeline "1280x1024_70.00"  129.00  1280 1368 1504 1728  1024 1027 1034 
1069 -hsync +vsync
Option  "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Videocard0"
Driver  "nouveau"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
Monitor"Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Virtual 1280 1024
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024_70.00"
EndSubSection
EndSection

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UEFI-bootable CD/DVD Questions

2009-11-18 Thread J. Bates
The Wiki pages on UEFI features in Fedora leave me wondering a couple
things:

-They say "We can't create dual-boot CD/DVD install media for Fedora 11
or Fedora 12 without breaking many supported systems." And so it
suggests you use boot.iso (which appears to be the same as netinst.iso,
correct me if I'm wrong). Does that mean boot.iso can dual-boot but also
breaks compatibility, or is there a special way to burn it?

-It also says "Both the BIOS and UEFI boot images are included on the
installation media, however, so that you can create your own
UEFI-bootable CD/DVD if desired." Are these the files under the "images"
directory or some sort of separate file system invisible to the user,
and how to I create my own disc this way?

-Why isn't efi/boot/bootx64.efi (or whatever it's called on 32-bit
platforms) available on most of the installation media? I've seen UEFI
implementations that don't rely on El-Torito and can just browse a CD
for EFI executables. And then why are BOOTX64.conf and splash.xpm.gz
there if bootx64.efi isn't?

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lesson of the torrent

2009-11-18 Thread Gerhard Magnus
Here's something obvious I've just figured out: to get the latest
version of Fedora fast join the torrent early! Even after waiting to
equalize the upload with the download I've never been able to acquire
the iso file in less than 24 hours before.

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Can't reach cheapbytes store

2009-11-18 Thread Aaron Konstam
I am trying to buy a F12 DVD from cheapbytes but when I click on the
enter the store link I get an error.
Does anyone have another seller of the DVD that I can use or can tell be
how to reach cheapbytes?
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sound in Flash

2009-11-18 Thread N James Bridge
I have got the Flash plugin to work in Firefox using nsplugin-wrapper in
F12, x86_64. I get moving pictures but no sound. With F11 I had both.
Apart from this, the sound is working as expected.

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Re: F12 failed to update F10

2009-11-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/19/2009 02:43 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:
> On 11/18/2009 12:23 PM, Aaron Gray wrote:
>> FYI
>>
>> I had to reinstall F12 from scratch after it failing to boot on an F10
>> update.
> 
> IIRC, it is not recommended to skip versions with update or preupgrade.
> In other words, F10-->F12 isn't supported.  F10-->F11--F12 would be,
> with an intermediate stop at F11.

I don't think that's the case. Fedora 10 - Fedora 12 *should* work fine.

Rahul

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Re: F12 failed to update F10

2009-11-18 Thread Rick Stevens

On 11/18/2009 12:23 PM, Aaron Gray wrote:

FYI

I had to reinstall F12 from scratch after it failing to boot on an F10 update.


IIRC, it is not recommended to skip versions with update or preupgrade.
In other words, F10-->F12 isn't supported.  F10-->F11--F12 would be,
with an intermediate stop at F11.
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Re: Urgent Help Needed for Boot Problems After Data Restoration

2009-11-18 Thread Rick Stevens

On 11/18/2009 12:03 PM, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)<
space.time.unive...@gmail.com>  wrote:


Thank you all for your assistance. I have finalized my data backup/cloning
and restore scripts.

You may refer to the backup and restore scripts at the following links.

My final data backup script:

https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-November/msg01443.html

My final data restore script:

https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-November/msg01444.html




How can I automate grub re-install in a data restore script? This is not
possible with an interactive grub prompt/session.


"grub --batch"?  The info page suggests:

 #!/bin/sh

 # Use /usr/sbin/grub if you are on an older system.
 /sbin/grub --batch /dev/null
 root (hd0,0)
 setup (hd0)
 quit
 EOT

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Re: low res after F12 upgrade

2009-11-18 Thread Greg Woods
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 14:28 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

> 
> You can probably make an xorg.conf file to get around this. 

I don't think I have enough knowledge of xorg.conf internals to do this.
I may just have a go at an over-the-top install if this is my only
option.

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Re: F11: Screensaver - causes system to hang, daily

2009-11-18 Thread Simon Slater
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 13:14 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> I tried GSS with a blank screen and everything
> else I could think of and it does not prevent
> the hanging problem.  But if I completely disable
> the GSS, i.e. uncheck both:
> 
> (1) "Activate screensaver when computer is idle"
> (2) "Lock screen when screensaver is active"
> 
> My system has been running F11 for a week now,
> and it has not hung at all.  Unfortunately, my
> computer is without security, short of logging out.
> 
> Has anyone else experienced this problem?
> 
> My system is a ASUS P5GC-MX/1333 if that helps.
> 
> FWIW,
> Dan
> 
I have the same situation with KDE on F11.  However my hardware is a
PII233/512 and a S3ViRGE/GX2 graphics card.  I thought it was just my
old hardware.

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Here we go again... Apple.com trailers stopped working

2009-11-18 Thread Andre Costa
Damn it, Apple, that's the 2nd time this year! =/ Tried with latest
gecko-mediaplayer on F11.

It definitely sucks to play catch-up.

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Re: low res after F12 upgrade

2009-11-18 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 13:23:21 -0700,
  Greg Woods  wrote:
> I just upgraded my laptop from Fedora 11 to Fedora 12, using the DVD.
> Unfortunately I cannot get it to do any better than 800x600 resolution
> which really sucks. The laptop has a 1024x768 LCD display, but even
> using system-config-display to set this doesn't help, even after
> rebooting I still can't do better than 800x600. The machine has an Intel
> graphics chip. Is there anything I can do to get back to 1024x768 which
> I know the hardware is capable of?

You can probably make an xorg.conf file to get around this. I have had
to do this for a few machines with old monitors that don't provide information
as expected through EDID.

For F12 you'll probably add a mode line. In earlier versions of Fedora I
used to get mode lines for standard sizes (at 60Hz I think), but with F12
that isn't the case.

Making modelines is a bit risky as you can drive your monitor or video card
out of spec which might damage it. If you know it worked at 1024x768 60Hz
then you should be able to use that when making a new mode line definition.

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Fedora 12 ath5k unable accessing to router

2009-11-18 Thread Philipp Böhm

Hello,
after I installed Fedora 12 yesterday I'm not able to connect to my 
NETGEAR-Router with my internal Atheros AR242x wlan-chip. If i use a 
different wlan-stick with another chip it works very well. In Fedora 11 
it works also very well. In Fedora 12 NetworkManager does not show these 
ssid but periodly it shows other networks of my neighbour.


Has anybody the same problem or a fix

Philipp Boehm

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low res after F12 upgrade

2009-11-18 Thread Greg Woods
I just upgraded my laptop from Fedora 11 to Fedora 12, using the DVD.
Unfortunately I cannot get it to do any better than 800x600 resolution
which really sucks. The laptop has a 1024x768 LCD display, but even
using system-config-display to set this doesn't help, even after
rebooting I still can't do better than 800x600. The machine has an Intel
graphics chip. Is there anything I can do to get back to 1024x768 which
I know the hardware is capable of?

Would I have better luck if I just install fresh over the top instead of
upgrading? I'll do that if I have to rather than be stuck with 800x600,
but it will be a lot of work to reconfigure everything. My home
directory is on another partition so I am safe there, but any
system-wide settings will have to be redone manually.

The only other option is to restore my F11 system from backup and
obviously I do not want to do that, I would rather move forward than
backward.

--Greg


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F12 failed to update F10

2009-11-18 Thread Aaron Gray
FYI

I had to reinstall F12 from scratch after it failing to boot on an F10 update.

Aaron

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Re: Urgent Help Needed for Boot Problems After Data Restoration

2009-11-18 Thread Rick Stevens

On 11/18/2009 11:34 AM, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Rick Stevens  wrote:

On 11/18/2009 10:33 AM, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:


Hi All,

After restoring data from a backup image set for a 500GB harddisk to a
1000 GB harddisk, I am unable to boot up my F11 OS. I have already
restored *both* the MBR backup and the dump output from sfdisk.

What else is missing? I am stuck at a blinking cursor at the top left
corner of the screen. GRUB is not loading and I am unable to select
any kernel to boot.

Using System Rescue CD, I am able to activate all the logical volumes
and all the volume groups that were restored. I am also able to mount
all the logical volumes and access the restored filesystems.

So I think the filesystems are restored properly. So I think it is the
problem with MBR, sfdisk dump output restoration, or GRUB. Is there a
problem with restoring data of a 500 GB harddisk to a 1 TB harddisk?


Well, let's see...the geometry between the two disks are going to be
different so the partition table's going to be screwed up.  That may
cause an issue with grub.  It's always dangerous to use block-level
backups and restores when the drives are of different sizes or geometries.

I'd recommend you boot off the DVD in rescue mode, then use fdisk and
the other tools to verify that the partition tables are in good shape.
You should also probably fsck each filesystem just to make sure.  Once
all that's done, you may have to rebuild the grub environment:

chroot /mnt/sysimage
grub-install /dev/sda   (or whichever disk it is)
exit   (gets out of the chroot)
exit   (gets out of the rescue boot)

Pop the DVD out and try to boot again.  That may fix it.


Hi,

If I want to use grub-install, I have to mount the partitions on the
restore harddisk and then chroot into the mount?


Yes, that's correct.  When the rescue boot comes up and asks if you
want the filesystems mounted, answer "yes".


Because earlier I have used the interactive grub prompt method without
mounting filesystems on the restore harddisk and chrooting.


That works too.  Some people get freaked out by the terminology used
by grub in interactive mode, so I tell them to use the method I
mentioned.  It's a bit less intimidating to the newbie.

You aren't one of those people and you seem to have solved it, so
congratulations!  Well done!
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Re: nouveau KMS + custom modelines

2009-11-18 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 13:44:57 -0500,
  Tony Nelson  wrote:
> On 09-11-18 09:32:38, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>  ...
> > Modeline "1280x1024_70.00"  129.00  1280 1368 1504 1728  1024
> > 1027 1034 1069 -hsync +vsync
>  ...
> 
> Modelines can be made with the cvt or gtf commands.

I think I used cvt to make that one. I also checked what the limits of
the monitor were to find that 75Hz wasn't going to result in an in spec
modeline.

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Re: Urgent Help Needed for Boot Problems After Data Restoration

2009-11-18 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) <
space.time.unive...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you all for your assistance. I have finalized my data backup/cloning
> and restore scripts.
>
> You may refer to the backup and restore scripts at the following links.
>
> My final data backup script:
>
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-November/msg01443.html
>
> My final data restore script:
>
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-November/msg01444.html
>
>
>
How can I automate grub re-install in a data restore script? This is not
possible with an interactive grub prompt/session.

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Fedora 12 ath5k unable accessing to router

2009-11-18 Thread Philipp Böhm

Hello,
after I installed Fedora 12 yesterday I'm not able to connect to my 
NETGEAR-Router with my internal Atheros AR242x wlan-chip. If i use a 
different wlan-stick with another chip it works very well. In Fedora 11 
it works also very well. In Fedora 12 NetworkManager does not show these 
ssid but periodly it shows other networks of my neighbour.


Has anybody the same problem or a fix

Philipp Boehm

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Re: Urgent Help Needed for Boot Problems After Data Restoration

2009-11-18 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
Thank you all for your assistance. I have finalized my data backup/cloning
and restore scripts.

You may refer to the backup and restore scripts at the following links.

My final data backup script:

https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-November/msg01443.html

My final data restore script:

https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-November/msg01444.html

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Re: Simple Harddisk Backup/Cloning and Data Restore Scripts for your Fedora Desktops

2009-11-18 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
*FINAL Restore script as at 19 November 2009 3:52 A.M. SGT*


#!/bin/sh

set -x

###
###
# Script to Restore Xen Host/Dom0 and all DomUs which are using Logical
Volumes as Virtual Hard Disks
###
###

# Written by:

# Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Dip(Mechatronics) BEng(Hons)(Mechanical
Engineering)
# Alma Maters:
# (1) Singapore Polytechnic
# (2) National University of Singapore
# Primary Blog: http://teo-en-ming-aka-zhang-enming.blogspot.com
# Secondary Blog: http://enmingteo.wordpress.com
# Youtube Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/enmingteo
# Xen Tutorials and Video Demos: http://www.xen.org/support/tutorial.html
# Email: space.time.unive...@gmail.com
# MSN: teoenm...@hotmail.com
# Mobile Phone (Starhub Prepaid): +65-8369-2618
# Street: Bedok Reservoir Road
# Country: Singapore

# First written: 13 November 2009 Friday 6:49 P.M. Singapore time
# Last updated: 13 November 2009 Friday 8:25 P.M. Singapore time
# Last updated: 13 November 2009 Friday 8:59 P.M. Singapore time
# Last updated: 13 November 2009 Friday 9:40 P.M. Singapore time
# Last updated: 14 November 2009 Saturday 3:31 A.M. Singapore time
# Last updated: 15 November 2009 Sunday 1:25 A.M. Singapore time
# Last updated: 15 November 2009 Sunday 8:38 A.M. Singapore time
# Last updated: 19 November 2009 Thursday 2:35 A.M. Singapore time
# Last updated: 19 November 2009 Thursday 3:40 A.M. Singapore time

# REFERNCE: "Geek Sheet: Bare-metal backup and recovery", May 7th, 2008,
Jason Perlow
# URL: http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8759

# Usage Instructions:

# Boot up your desktop/server with System Rescue CD version 1.3.2 for
i386/amd64.
# Then execute this restore script. You need to adapt this script to work
for your environment.
# Download System Rescue CD from http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page

# No. of QC Checks Performed on this restore script: 1

###
# Declare Variables
###

HARDDISK=/dev/sda
SOURCE=/mnt/hitachi/Xen-VGA-Passthrough-FINAL-Update-2-2009-11-15-02-img

###
###
# Restoring Xen Host/Dom0
###
###

# Restore the Master Boot Record
dd if=$SOURCE/f11-xen-dom0-sda.mbr of=$HARDDISK bs=512 count=1

# Restore the Partition Geometry
sfdisk --force --no-reread $HARDDISK <
$SOURCE/f11-xen-dom0-partition-geometry-sda.sfdisk

# Re-create the LVM2 PV containing the host operating system/dom0
#pvcreate --uuid ??? /dev/sda2
pvcreate -f /dev/sda2

# Re-create the LVM2 PV containing all the virtual machines
#pvcreate --uuid ??? /dev/sda3
pvcreate -f /dev/sda3

# Restore the LVM2 metadata for the volume group containing the host
operating system/dom0
vgcfgrestore --file $SOURCE/vg_fedora11_host-vgcfg.lvm2.metadata
vg_fedora11_host

# Restore the LVM2 metadata for the volume group containing all the virtual
machines
vgcfgrestore --file $SOURCE/virtualmachines-vgcfg.lvm2.metadata
virtualmachines

# Activate all the volume groups
vgchange -ay

# Restore all filesystems for the host operating system/dom0
fsarchiver restfs -v $SOURCE/f11-xen-dom0-filesystems.fsa
id=0,dest=/dev/sda1 \
id=1,dest=/dev/vg_fedora11_host/lv_home \
id=2,dest=/dev/vg_fedora11_host/lv_root \
id=3,dest=/dev/vg_fedora11_host/lv_var

# Re-create the swap partition
mkswap /dev/vg_fedora11_host/lv_swap

###
###
# Restoring Xen-based Virtual Machines/DomUs/Guest Operating Systems/VMs
###
###

### NOTE: Check for swap partitions in each virtual machine and do a mkswap.

# VM 1: Fedora 11 x86_64 PV domU (MPICH2 Virtual Supercomputer Center)

Re: Simple Harddisk Backup/Cloning and Data Restore Scripts for your Fedora Desktops

2009-11-18 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) <
space.time.unive...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
>  wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
>>>  wrote:

 Restore script:

 
 ---snipped---
 


>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I have tested my self-written harddisk backup/cloning script by
>>> performing a backup of my Western Digital 500 GB SATA harddisk to my 160
GB
>>> Hitachi harddisk.
>>>
>>> The backup operation is successful except for 3 virtual machines. The
>>> backup of these 3 virtual machines fail because partimage does not
support
>>> ext4 filesystems. I have performed a backup of these 3 VMs *again* using
the
>>> following modified script to handle ext4 filesystems by using
fsarchiver:
>>>
>>> 
>>> ---snipped---
>>> 
>>>
>>> The duration of harddisk cloning has been shortened from 7 hours to 4.5
>>> hours. The filesize of the backup image set has been reduced from 300 GB
to
>>> 126 GB, which is a substantial reduction of more than 50%.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Latest Backup Script as at 15 November 2009 9:13 A.M. SGT:
>>
>> 
>> ---snipped---
>> 
>>
>
>
>
> Latest Restore Script as at 15 November 2009 Sunday 9:17 A.M. SGT:
>
> 
> 
>
>

Hi All,

I have tested both the backup and restore scripts by doing an actual backup
and restore operation on my computer.

For your convenience, I have attached the final backup and restore scripts
in this email.

*FINAL Backup script as at 19 November 2009 3:39 A.M. SGT

*
#!/bin/sh

set -x

###
###
# Script to Backup/Clone Xen Host/Dom0 and all DomUs which are using Logical
Volumes as Virtual Hard Disks
###
###

# Written by:

# Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Dip(Mechatronics) BEng(Hons)(Mechanical
Engineering)
# Alma Maters:
# (1) Singapore Polytechnic
# (2) National University of Singapore
# Primary Blog: http://teo-en-ming-aka-zhang-enming.blogspot.com
# Secondary Blog: http://enmingteo.wordpress.com
# Youtube Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/enmingteo
# Xen Tutorials and Video Demos: http://www.xen.org/support/tutorial.html
# Email: space.time.unive...@gmail.com
# MSN: teoenm...@hotmail.com
# Mobile Phone (Starhub Prepaid): +65-8369-2618
# Street: Bedok Reservoir Road
# Country: Singapore

# First written: 13 November 2009 Friday 12:38 A.M. Singapore time
# Last updated: 13 November 2009 Friday 12:38 A.M. Singapore time
# Last updated: 13 November 2009 Friday 1:20 P.M. Singapore time
# Last updated: 13 November 2009 Friday 5:23 P.M. Singapore time
# Last updated: 14 November 2009 Saturday 3:19 A.M. Singapore time
# Last updated: 15 November 2009 Sunday 1:33 A.M. Singapore time
# Last updated: 15 November 2009 Sunday 8:06 A.M. Singapore time

# REFERNCE: "Geek Sheet: Bare-metal backup and recovery", May 7th, 2008,
Jason Perlow
# URL: http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8759

# Usage Instructions:

# Boot up your desktop/server with System Rescue CD version 1.3.2 for
i386/amd64.
# Then execute this backup script. You need to adapt this script to work for
your environment.
# Download System Rescue CD from http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page

# FAQ
# Q: Why do I want to write this cloning script when there are many open
source cloning software available?
# A: I am previously using Clonezilla. It is a very good cloning software.
However, it could not detect all the
#virtual machines in my LVM2 logical volumes and had to fall back on
using dd to image all my domUs,
#which resulted in an enormous 300 GB (!) backup image set and an
extremely lengthy cloning process of
#7 hours. Clonezilla is very good for LVs which only contain
filesystems, but not for LVs which contain
#virtual machines with MBR, partition geometries and full fledged
operating systems. It is very diffcult
#to image nested logical volumes, i.e. logical volumes within logical
volumes. And the PV within a LV is
#the barrier. So it is not Clonezilla's fault. Anybody who knows how to
activate all the logical volumes
#of all the volume groups within LVM2 physical volumes inside a logical
volume hosting a virtual machine,
#please share your knowledge with me. Thank you very much.

# No. of QC Checks Performed on this backup script: 1

###
# Declare Variables
#

Re: Urgent Help Needed for Boot Problems After Data Restoration

2009-11-18 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Rick Stevens  wrote:
> On 11/18/2009 10:33 AM, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> After restoring data from a backup image set for a 500GB harddisk to a
>> 1000 GB harddisk, I am unable to boot up my F11 OS. I have already
>> restored *both* the MBR backup and the dump output from sfdisk.
>>
>> What else is missing? I am stuck at a blinking cursor at the top left
>> corner of the screen. GRUB is not loading and I am unable to select
>> any kernel to boot.
>>
>> Using System Rescue CD, I am able to activate all the logical volumes
>> and all the volume groups that were restored. I am also able to mount
>> all the logical volumes and access the restored filesystems.
>>
>> So I think the filesystems are restored properly. So I think it is the
>> problem with MBR, sfdisk dump output restoration, or GRUB. Is there a
>> problem with restoring data of a 500 GB harddisk to a 1 TB harddisk?
>
> Well, let's see...the geometry between the two disks are going to be
> different so the partition table's going to be screwed up.  That may
> cause an issue with grub.  It's always dangerous to use block-level
> backups and restores when the drives are of different sizes or geometries.
>
> I'd recommend you boot off the DVD in rescue mode, then use fdisk and
> the other tools to verify that the partition tables are in good shape.
> You should also probably fsck each filesystem just to make sure.  Once
> all that's done, you may have to rebuild the grub environment:
>
>        chroot /mnt/sysimage
>        grub-install /dev/sda   (or whichever disk it is)
>        exit           (gets out of the chroot)
>        exit           (gets out of the rescue boot)
>
> Pop the DVD out and try to boot again.  That may fix it.
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Hi,

If I want to use grub-install, I have to mount the partitions on the
restore harddisk and then chroot into the mount?

Because earlier I have used the interactive grub prompt method without
mounting filesystems on the restore harddisk and chrooting.

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Re: Urgent Help Needed for Boot Problems After Data Restoration

2009-11-18 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:09 AM, M A Young  wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:
>
>> After restoring data from a backup image set for a 500GB harddisk to a
>> 1000 GB harddisk, I am unable to boot up my F11 OS. I have already
>> restored *both* the MBR backup and the dump output from sfdisk.
>
> It isn't that simple. The MBR tells the OS where to find the next boot
> information on the disk and that will most likely have moved so it won't
> find it.
>
>> What else is missing? I am stuck at a blinking cursor at the top left
>> corner of the screen. GRUB is not loading and I am unable to select
>> any kernel to boot.
>>
>> Using System Rescue CD, I am able to activate all the logical volumes
>> and all the volume groups that were restored. I am also able to mount
>> all the logical volumes and access the restored filesystems.
>
> You need to boot off the rescue disk and reactivate grub from there -
> something like chroot into the disk image and then run grub-install, though
> I forget the exat details.
>
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Thank you!

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Re: Urgent Help Needed for Boot Problems After Data Restoration

2009-11-18 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:59 AM, Mikkel  wrote:
> Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> After restoring data from a backup image set for a 500GB harddisk to a
>> 1000 GB harddisk, I am unable to boot up my F11 OS. I have already
>> restored *both* the MBR backup and the dump output from sfdisk.
>>
>> What else is missing? I am stuck at a blinking cursor at the top left
>> corner of the screen. GRUB is not loading and I am unable to select
>> any kernel to boot.
>>
>> Using System Rescue CD, I am able to activate all the logical volumes
>> and all the volume groups that were restored. I am also able to mount
>> all the logical volumes and access the restored filesystems.
>>
>> So I think the filesystems are restored properly. So I think it is the
>> problem with MBR, sfdisk dump output restoration, or GRUB. Is there a
>> problem with restoring data of a 500 GB harddisk to a 1 TB harddisk?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
> You will need to re-install Grub. Because Grub uses the BIOS to
> access the drive, and because the first stage loader is rather dumb,
> (Not enough space for a smart loader) it needs to know the physical
> location of stage 1.5. The procedure for re-installing Grub is well
> covered, so I will not post it again.
>
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Thank you very much! I have solved the problem. Reinstalling GRUB works.

I ran the following commands on my restore harddisk using System Rescue Live CD:

# grub

grub> root (hd0,0)
grub> setup (hd0)
grub> quit

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Re: F12 work around for out of space on /boot for preupgrade?

2009-11-18 Thread jarmo
On keskiviikko 18 marraskuu 2009 19:02:29 Steven Stern wrote:
> On 11/18/2009 10:52 AM, jarmo wrote:
> > On keskiviikko 18 marraskuu 2009 18:15:43 Linuxguy123 
wrote:
> >> I am wondering if running gparted from a live disk would allow
> >
> > you to
> >
> >> resize /boot without losing any data.
> >>
> >> Please keep us informed... I have exactly 187 MB free after
> >
> > cleaning up
> >
> >> and that is supposedly how much it needs.   How much free
> >
> > space do you
> >
> >> have ?  (df -h)
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >
> > I tried with sysresc-cd and gparted complained, that LVM is not 
yet
> > supported. So I need 8M more space.
> 
> I'm bailing out of preupgrade. I've deleted all the preupgrade files.
> I've got the DVD and am going to perform an upgrade from that.
> 
> Next time I do a clean install, I'm not going to use LVM.
> 

Anyway, tune2fs -r 0 /dev/sda1, in my case was enough
to get sysrem preupgraded. Went smoothly throug, except kernel
panic at start. fortunately I had compiled vanilla-kernel, what with 
got system running. Ques have to run grub-install to get fc12 kernel
running.

Jarmo

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Re: Saving Flash

2009-11-18 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:11 AM, Howard Eisenberger  wrote:
> On 2009-11-17, Bill Davidsen wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2009-11-14 at 20:52 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> However these methods don't always work.
 The day you succeed in saving a flv file at the CBC, the BBC or any
 other place where the file does not readily appear in /tmp, you tell
 me. All the steps. I'll be glad to double-check.
>>>
>>> Since I don't live in the UK or Canada, and hence cannot get access to
>>> these streams, the question is moot.
>>>
>> Clue: proxy
>
> I live in Canada and can't even play the videos at cbc.ca/video/

Nothing works from this address for me either. You've got to go to the
program's site and click the screen that presents the video.

When you call to complain, they suggest that you "clean your cache".
Whereas the BBC's technicians developed Dirac, the CBC drones buy
turnkey solutions and can only read the manual even if the entry has
no relation to the problem.

Write to Hubert Lacroix to complain. He's presently asking the CRTC
for yet more money to hire some more drones.  hubert.lacroix (chez)
radio.canada.ca

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Re: F12 work around for out of space on /boot for preupgrade?

2009-11-18 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:02:29AM -0600, Steven Stern wrote:
> On 11/18/2009 10:52 AM, jarmo wrote:
> > On keskiviikko 18 marraskuu 2009 18:15:43 Linuxguy123 wrote:
> > 
> >> I am wondering if running gparted from a live disk would allow 
> > you to
> >> resize /boot without losing any data.
> >>
> >> Please keep us informed... I have exactly 187 MB free after 
> > cleaning up
> >> and that is supposedly how much it needs.   How much free 
> > space do you
> >> have ?  (df -h)
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> > I tried with sysresc-cd and gparted complained, that LVM is not yet
> > supported. So I need 8M more space.
> > 
> 
> I'm bailing out of preupgrade. I've deleted all the preupgrade files.
> I've got the DVD and am going to perform an upgrade from that.
> 
> Next time I do a clean install, I'm not going to use LVM.

The fact that LVM isn't supported in a certain environment using
gparted is probably not a good argument against using it globally.
LVM solves a lot more problems than it causes, take it from someone
who held out for a long while himself. :-)

There are ways to move LVM partitions around to make more space for,
and then resize, an existing physical /boot partition... but none of
them are pretty.  (Resizing other partitions dynamically?  Now *that*
is easy with LVM, something you can't say otherwise.)

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Re: Saving Flash

2009-11-18 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Tim  wrote:

> Best advice:  Don't ask *us* about this, contact your bank, or credit
> card supplier, and see what they advise and can offer you.

Rest assured that my bank will think that dealing with their card is
safe. It's when problems arise that they're not so sure anymore :)

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Re: Urgent Help Needed for Boot Problems After Data Restoration

2009-11-18 Thread M A Young

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:


After restoring data from a backup image set for a 500GB harddisk to a
1000 GB harddisk, I am unable to boot up my F11 OS. I have already
restored *both* the MBR backup and the dump output from sfdisk.


It isn't that simple. The MBR tells the OS where to find the next boot 
information on the disk and that will most likely have moved so it won't 
find it.



What else is missing? I am stuck at a blinking cursor at the top left
corner of the screen. GRUB is not loading and I am unable to select
any kernel to boot.

Using System Rescue CD, I am able to activate all the logical volumes
and all the volume groups that were restored. I am also able to mount
all the logical volumes and access the restored filesystems.


You need to boot off the rescue disk and reactivate grub from there - 
something like chroot into the disk image and then run grub-install, 
though I forget the exat details.


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Minor problem with sudo in F12

2009-11-18 Thread Joachim Backes
When entering sudo , there is always a little pause of 
about 1 sec, before  is executed. I never had this 
behaviour in F11.


How to prevent from this ? Is this a configurable parameter in /etc/sudoers?

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Re: Urgent Help Needed for Boot Problems After Data Restoration

2009-11-18 Thread Rick Stevens

On 11/18/2009 10:33 AM, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:

Hi All,

After restoring data from a backup image set for a 500GB harddisk to a
1000 GB harddisk, I am unable to boot up my F11 OS. I have already
restored *both* the MBR backup and the dump output from sfdisk.

What else is missing? I am stuck at a blinking cursor at the top left
corner of the screen. GRUB is not loading and I am unable to select
any kernel to boot.

Using System Rescue CD, I am able to activate all the logical volumes
and all the volume groups that were restored. I am also able to mount
all the logical volumes and access the restored filesystems.

So I think the filesystems are restored properly. So I think it is the
problem with MBR, sfdisk dump output restoration, or GRUB. Is there a
problem with restoring data of a 500 GB harddisk to a 1 TB harddisk?


Well, let's see...the geometry between the two disks are going to be
different so the partition table's going to be screwed up.  That may
cause an issue with grub.  It's always dangerous to use block-level
backups and restores when the drives are of different sizes or geometries.

I'd recommend you boot off the DVD in rescue mode, then use fdisk and
the other tools to verify that the partition tables are in good shape.
You should also probably fsck each filesystem just to make sure.  Once
all that's done, you may have to rebuild the grub environment:

chroot /mnt/sysimage
grub-install /dev/sda   (or whichever disk it is)
exit   (gets out of the chroot)
exit   (gets out of the rescue boot)

Pop the DVD out and try to boot again.  That may fix it.
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Re: Urgent Help Needed for Boot Problems After Data Restoration

2009-11-18 Thread Mikkel
Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> After restoring data from a backup image set for a 500GB harddisk to a
> 1000 GB harddisk, I am unable to boot up my F11 OS. I have already
> restored *both* the MBR backup and the dump output from sfdisk.
> 
> What else is missing? I am stuck at a blinking cursor at the top left
> corner of the screen. GRUB is not loading and I am unable to select
> any kernel to boot.
> 
> Using System Rescue CD, I am able to activate all the logical volumes
> and all the volume groups that were restored. I am also able to mount
> all the logical volumes and access the restored filesystems.
> 
> So I think the filesystems are restored properly. So I think it is the
> problem with MBR, sfdisk dump output restoration, or GRUB. Is there a
> problem with restoring data of a 500 GB harddisk to a 1 TB harddisk?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
You will need to re-install Grub. Because Grub uses the BIOS to
access the drive, and because the first stage loader is rather dumb,
(Not enough space for a smart loader) it needs to know the physical
location of stage 1.5. The procedure for re-installing Grub is well
covered, so I will not post it again.

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Re: sound recorder

2009-11-18 Thread N James Bridge
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 23:53 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 11/18/2009 11:49 PM, N James Bridge wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Well, I have got it, but not quite as you said. The command
> > gnome-sound-recorder (as root) just gave "Command not found" - nothing
> > about installing anything. So I did a yum install, which worked fine.
> 
> You need to have PackageKit-command-not-found plugin installed for what
> I showed to work.
OK - I just did the standard installation. Have to add that.
> 
> > Why does gnome-media-apps not appear in the Add/Remove Software choices?
> > It certainly used to.
> 
> gnome-media-apps is a new package this release IIRC.  I search for it
> and got it. What did you search for?
I can find it too when I search by name, but it doesn't show up in the
"multimedia" group, which is where I looked ( just scrolled down the
list).
> 
> Rahul


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Re: F12 work around for out of space on /boot for preupgrade?

2009-11-18 Thread Tony Nelson
On 09-11-18 11:15:43, Linuxguy123 wrote:
 ...
> I am wondering if running gparted from a live disk would allow you to
> resize /boot without losing any data.

Not if he uses LVM, unless there have been big changes in the last day 
or two, in a program where the feature has been discussed and promised 
for many years.  If gparted had the fairly trivial ability to move and 
resize a partition it doesn't understand it would be useful.

I use a ping / pong disk setup, so I'll just nuke the LVM partition, 
resize /boot, make a new LVM, and copy my data over and make a dump as 
usual.

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Re: nouveau KMS + custom modelines

2009-11-18 Thread Tony Nelson
On 09-11-18 09:32:38, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 ...
>   Modeline "1280x1024_70.00"  129.00  1280 1368 1504 1728  1024
> 1027 1034 1069 -hsync +vsync
 ...

Modelines can be made with the cvt or gtf commands.

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Re: internet (without LAN) monthly traffic statistics

2009-11-18 Thread Tony Nelson
On 09-11-18 09:32:54, Ryan Lynch wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 09:27, Dj YB  wrote:
> > iptraf is really complicated and require too many changes,
> > vnstat doesn't support the separation using single interface...
> > any help on this matter will be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Cacti is good at this, and I think MRTG can do it, too. But neither 
> of those is simple to set up. I'd give them a try, though, you might 
> do OK.
> 
> Depending on exactly what numbers you need, NTop is also a
> possibility. It's dead easy to set up, and it's capable of breaking
> out separate interfaces. The level of detail will be enormous, but
> it's actually (IMHO) much easier/faster to get running than either
> Cacti or MRTG.
> 
> If you're good with any scripting languages, you might want to
> consider just polling the kernel's interface counters, yourself, via 
> a regular 'cron' job. That might not be an option, though, depending 
> on your skill level.

If the problem is sorting out which traffic went through the pay 
connection, perhaps IPTables could be used.  Just an idea...

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Re: Postfix 'access denied' error

2009-11-18 Thread Greg Woods
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 19:19 +0100, Luc MAIGNAN wrote:
> I'm note sure. My configuration works with all clients except the Lotus 
> Notes' ones

That is going to be hard for anyone else to debug for you. You will need
to look in the logs for more information: /var/log/maillog is the usual
place for Postfix.

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Urgent Help Needed for Boot Problems After Data Restoration

2009-11-18 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
Hi All,

After restoring data from a backup image set for a 500GB harddisk to a
1000 GB harddisk, I am unable to boot up my F11 OS. I have already
restored *both* the MBR backup and the dump output from sfdisk.

What else is missing? I am stuck at a blinking cursor at the top left
corner of the screen. GRUB is not loading and I am unable to select
any kernel to boot.

Using System Rescue CD, I am able to activate all the logical volumes
and all the volume groups that were restored. I am also able to mount
all the logical volumes and access the restored filesystems.

So I think the filesystems are restored properly. So I think it is the
problem with MBR, sfdisk dump output restoration, or GRUB. Is there a
problem with restoring data of a 500 GB harddisk to a 1 TB harddisk?

Thank you.

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Re: sound recorder

2009-11-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/18/2009 11:49 PM, N James Bridge wrote:

> 
> Well, I have got it, but not quite as you said. The command
> gnome-sound-recorder (as root) just gave "Command not found" - nothing
> about installing anything. So I did a yum install, which worked fine.

You need to have PackageKit-command-not-found plugin installed for what
I showed to work.

> Why does gnome-media-apps not appear in the Add/Remove Software choices?
> It certainly used to.

gnome-media-apps is a new package this release IIRC.  I search for it
and got it. What did you search for?

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Re: sound recorder

2009-11-18 Thread N James Bridge
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 22:21 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 11/18/2009 10:19 PM, N James Bridge wrote:
> > Where has sound recorder gone? Seems a bit daft just to get to the point
> > that one can easily select input from line-input and then remove the
> > recorder program that uses it! Of course there are others, but recorder
> > was very quick to use and just save an audio file.
> 
> # gnome-sound-recorder
> Command not found. Install package 'gnome-media-apps' to provide command
> 'gnome-sound-recorder'? [N/y]
>  * Installing packages..
> 
>  * Getting information..
>  * Resolving dependencies..
>  * Waiting for authentication..
>  * Resolving dependencies..
>  * Downloading packages..
>  * Checking signatures..
>  * Testing changes..
>  * Installing packages..
>  * Scanning applications..
> 
> Installed.
> 
> Rahul
> 

Well, I have got it, but not quite as you said. The command
gnome-sound-recorder (as root) just gave "Command not found" - nothing
about installing anything. So I did a yum install, which worked fine.

Why does gnome-media-apps not appear in the Add/Remove Software choices?
It certainly used to.


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Re: Postfix 'access denied' error

2009-11-18 Thread Luc MAIGNAN
I'm note sure. My configuration works with all clients except the Lotus 
Notes' ones


Le 18/11/09 19:15, Greg Woods a écrit :

On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 18:45 +0100, Luc MAIGNAN wrote:
   

Hi,

I have setup a postfix server under a F11-x64.
All seem to be good, but when a user send a mail using 'Lotus Notes'
postfix says '554 5.7.1 client host rejected : access denied'
 

Sounds like you need to set your "mynetworks" parameter properly to
allow your clients to relay through your server.

http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html#relay_from

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Re: Postfix 'access denied' error

2009-11-18 Thread Greg Woods
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 18:45 +0100, Luc MAIGNAN wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have setup a postfix server under a F11-x64.
> All seem to be good, but when a user send a mail using 'Lotus Notes' 
> postfix says '554 5.7.1 client host rejected : access denied'

Sounds like you need to set your "mynetworks" parameter properly to
allow your clients to relay through your server. 

http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html#relay_from

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Re: Silent mounting of disks? Unwanted.

2009-11-18 Thread Andy Campbell

> 
> So, how did those 6 partitions get mounted?  Inquiring minds want to
> know.  I didn't do it, and I'm the only operator here.
> 

This may not be true for F10, but on F11 it would be worth checking 
Authorizations, on F11 its System->Preferences->Authorizations.

Look for disks -> Mount a system-internal device

If its enabled for your account, or Active console, then they get 
automatically mounted.

One workaround I found is to explicitly include the filesystem in /etc/
fstab.  But add the option noauto this stops it getting mount e.g.

  ... ext3noauto,defaults 0 0 ...

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Re: F12 work around for out of space on /boot for preupgrade?

2009-11-18 Thread M A Young

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, Steven Stern wrote:


There is an upgrade directory on /boot.  Can I move the upgrade
directory to another partition and link them?  That is, will this work?

  cd /boot
  mv upgrade /tmp/upgrade
  ln -s /tmp/upgrade upgrade


You can move some of the files in that directory, most notably the 
install.img file, but it has to be onto a non-LVM filesystem (LVM seems 
only to be started up after this file is loaded) and you have to edit 
/boot/grub/grub.conf to tell the system where to find it or tell it during 
the boot (it will ask you for the partition and path to the file within 
the partition if it doesn't find it).


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Postfix 'access denied' error

2009-11-18 Thread Luc MAIGNAN

Hi,

I have setup a postfix server under a F11-x64.
All seem to be good, but when a user send a mail using 'Lotus Notes' 
postfix says '554 5.7.1 client host rejected : access denied'


Has anybody an idea ?

Any help would be appreciated
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Re: how to start with simple SDL programming?

2009-11-18 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 5:27 AM, Robert P. J. Day  wrote:
>  having never done any SDL programming before (so be gentle), what
> would i need to do to get started in terms of loading framebuffer
> support for my first program?

SDL is pretty easy stuff, really. Someone with relatively little
programming experience can get basic blitting and sound to work with
just a few lines of code, mostly copy/pasted from examples.

I got started years ago with the book Programming Linux Games by John
R. Hall. This book was easy to follow with clear, incremental
examples. Later I picked up Focus On SDL by Earnest Pazera at the fire
sale when CompUSA closed shop. I'm not sure that I ever got around to
reading it.

But I don't even think you need to buy a book. Online tutorials and
code examples abound. Just google "sdl programming tutorial" and dive
in.

If what you mean by "loading frambuffer support" is actually using
hardware acceleration then that's a bit more complicated. I
half-heartedly attempted to use hardware a few years ago with no
success on my machine. But I've written several windowed and
full-screen programs that didn't suffer noticeably from the lack of
hardware acceleration.

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Re: (no subject)

2009-11-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 16:39 +, Phil Sharrock wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a problem logging out of Fedora 8.0

F8 hasn't been supported for over a year now.

> The logout window will not appear when the logout icon is clicked on.

Which desktop? Gnome? KDE? Other?

> I have to reboot or shutdown using poweroff.

Kill the desktop manager, e.g. (as root) "pkill kdm" or "pkill gdm" as
appropriate. Or do "init 3; init 5".

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Re: Is 200M on /boot enough for F12 *installation* (not upgrade)?

2009-11-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 08:18 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > 
> > I have 190MB in /boot and upgraded with no problems. I used the DVD
> > though. I seem to remember the larger partition requirement is when you
> > do a network upgrade.
> > 
> 
> The DVD != preupgrade. The issue[1] with not enough space on /boot is
> solely with preupgrade.
> 
> [1] https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/270

That's what I was trying to say. Thanks for clearing it up.

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Flashgot and Fedora 12

2009-11-18 Thread Mike Martin
Anyone getting problems with this?

I am not getting any errors but no flashgot icon is appearing on a
clean install of F12

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