Re: Sony videocam w/ USB
Bill Davidsen wrote: Yes, the "local storage" is a tape drive. And given that the camera has only a dozen hours of use in five years, I have a hard time justifying an upgrade. It's totally adequate for the intended use as an easy to use movie camera for a non-camera person. I'd like to get data out pre split, I can split it if absolutely necessary. :-( OK Bill, You got me interested enough that I went to the SONY WWW site and I found the use manual for your camera: http://www.docs.sony.com/release/DCRTRV260.pdf It mentions that your camera has the following 3 options: A/V out. I'm not sure if this is 1 cable with lots of connectors, or many cables, but supposedly it can play to the standard RCA inputs on your VCR (or to an MPEG encoder video capture card). I own a Happauge PVR-350 and use it to record TV directly from my analog cable input, but this card (and others like it) are also capable of recording from an A/V input or even from an S-Video input. And since it contains an MPEG-2 encoder on the card, the result is an MPEG stream that you can write directly to an .mpg file if you so desire. I've even used a fairly simple script to transcode the .mpg files to a format suitable for burning onto DVDs. If your input is clean (digital quality), so should your capture be as well. You've already mentioned that you don't think you want to do an NTSC capture, so that leaves: i.LNK in/out. The manual states that your i.lnk port is better known as ieee1394 (which is firewire). It also claims that this is a DV port. So, do you have a firewire capture on your computer? dvgrab is supposed to be able to capture firewire input for you. Perhaps a firewire PCI card could help? My laptop has an ieee1394a port, but not everyone does. USB jack. Here the manual states that the USB jack can be used with a program on your application disk. It calls the output a USB stream. This strongly suggests that one of the previously suggested solutions (like kino or dvgrab) might be able to be used to capture the stream directly if the program supports using the USB connection for input. The dvgrab man page doesn't mention any support for capturing from USB (seems silly though as USB and firewire are used similarly in this regard, but the hardware is very different). What you need is some software to read the stream from the USB port (similar to dvgrab) and provide an interface (like /dev/video0) that you can then use to save the stream to disk like my video capture card does. I hope this helps! -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Sony videocam w/ USB
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Bill, Last year my daughter bought me a Sony Handicam DCR-SR42 for Christmas. It has a 30GB hard drive in it, and a USB connection. My laptop recognized it right away and mounted it as a USB hard drive device. I can access the the stored videos (MPGs) (in a simial method to accessing my SONY still camera's JPGs) and access them directly. I even learned how to burn the MPGs to a DVD with a script. Does your videocam not have any local storage on it? For me, the trick was in knowing where to look for the videos after Linux mounted the device /media/disk/mp_root/101pnv01/ holds all of the .mpg files and /media/disk/dcim/101msdcf/ holds all of my .jpg files Yes, the "local storage" is a tape drive. And given that the camera has only a dozen hours of use in five years, I have a hard time justifying an upgrade. It's totally adequate for the intended use as an easy to use movie camera for a non-camera person. I'd like to get data out pre split, I can split it if absolutely necessary. :-( -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Sony videocam w/ USB
Bill, Last year my daughter bought me a Sony Handicam DCR-SR42 for Christmas. It has a 30GB hard drive in it, and a USB connection. My laptop recognized it right away and mounted it as a USB hard drive device. I can access the the stored videos (MPGs) (in a simial method to accessing my SONY still camera's JPGs) and access them directly. I even learned how to burn the MPGs to a DVD with a script. Does your videocam not have any local storage on it? For me, the trick was in knowing where to look for the videos after Linux mounted the device /media/disk/mp_root/101pnv01/ holds all of the .mpg files and /media/disk/dcim/101msdcf/ holds all of my .jpg files -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sony videocam w/ USB
Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 25 August 2008, Bill Davidsen wrote: Mark Haney wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: g wrote: Great site, but doesn't seem to address the problem. Have you tried Kino? It's a KDE app, but it works in GNOME and I"ve successfully used it to pull raw video data from a Sony camcorder via USB. It's slower than the firewire connection on my laptop, but it still works pretty well. Just back in town after a week out of state w/ no net connection (and little cell coverage). I am relaxed but busy, and will try some of this later this week. I would like the importing software to break the various recorded sessions into separate files, all else is easy. Kino, when importing from the camera over firewire, does exactly that when it detects a scene change. It's the "when importing from firewire" that bothers me, I would hope that happens with USB as well, since the camera doesn't do firewire. I'll let you know. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sony videocam w/ USB
On Monday 25 August 2008, Bill Davidsen wrote: >Mark Haney wrote: >> Bill Davidsen wrote: >>> g wrote: >>> >>> >>> Great site, but doesn't seem to address the problem. >> >> Have you tried Kino? It's a KDE app, but it works in GNOME and I"ve >> successfully used it to pull raw video data from a Sony camcorder via >> USB. It's slower than the firewire connection on my laptop, but it >> still works pretty well. > >Just back in town after a week out of state w/ no net connection (and >little cell coverage). I am relaxed but busy, and will try some of this >later this week. I would like the importing software to break the >various recorded sessions into separate files, all else is easy. > Kino, when importing from the camera over firewire, does exactly that when it detects a scene change. >I'll let you know. > >-- >Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from >the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) MSDOS didn't get as bad as it is overnight -- it took over ten years of careful development. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sony videocam w/ USB
Mark Haney wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: g wrote: Great site, but doesn't seem to address the problem. Have you tried Kino? It's a KDE app, but it works in GNOME and I"ve successfully used it to pull raw video data from a Sony camcorder via USB. It's slower than the firewire connection on my laptop, but it still works pretty well. Just back in town after a week out of state w/ no net connection (and little cell coverage). I am relaxed but busy, and will try some of this later this week. I would like the importing software to break the various recorded sessions into separate files, all else is easy. I'll let you know. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sony videocam w/ USB
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bill Davidsen wrote: > The site you provide is awesome, and I have all manner of uses for the > software, but it's really not related to controlling a DV camera in > playback mode through a USB connection, AFAIK. If the connection were > Firewire there is a plethora of available software, but it isn't. for coffin to have come up with 'dcraw' and it have ability to do what it does, i would think that it could also be used with a 'usb' connection instead of, 'firewire'. i may be wrong. but if i had need, i would definitely contact him before i gave up on it. kino is another possibility, as mark henry stated. choice is yours. > Great site, but doesn't seem to address the problem. was 'usb' available at time he wrote 'dcraw'? - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIpF86+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAlmsAJ966tzBFLrnFhH4caJymTKNrc5bowCgy+Gy cd7EPbe5pWUGqMY08agDsGs= =n4vq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sony videocam w/ USB
Bill Davidsen wrote: g wrote: Great site, but doesn't seem to address the problem. Have you tried Kino? It's a KDE app, but it works in GNOME and I"ve successfully used it to pull raw video data from a Sony camcorder via USB. It's slower than the firewire connection on my laptop, but it still works pretty well. -- Libenter homines id quod volunt credunt -- Caius Julius Caesar Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sony videocam w/ USB
g wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bill Davidsen wrote: Any thoughts on getting data out of this without huge loss of picture quality? have you considered 'dcraw'? http://www.cybercom.net/~dcoffin/dcraw/ The site you provide is awesome, and I have all manner of uses for the software, but it's really not related to controlling a DV camera in playback mode through a USB connection, AFAIK. If the connection were Firewire there is a plethora of available software, but it isn't. I think I can connect using NTSC video capture, but that's not what I want at all. Great site, but doesn't seem to address the problem. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sony videocam w/ USB
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bill Davidsen wrote: > Any thoughts on getting data out of this without huge loss > of picture quality? have you considered 'dcraw'? http://www.cybercom.net/~dcoffin/dcraw/ - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIol0F+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAu4tAKCRnGdEcryvIuzc0VNi6W8pvQ0EQgCgxSs0 EZO0tKceSJFh4H2hBUe39GY= =sYVH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Sony videocam w/ USB
I have a video camera, TRV-260, which works nicely and has the Sony IR low light capability. It also has USB rather than Firewire for connectivity. Any thoughts on getting data out of this without huge loss of picture quality? -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list