Re: is suspend broken?
On 01/08/2010 06:54 PM, Peter Langfelder wrote: >> >>> HTH, >> >> It did indeed. Thanks! >> >>> Peter >> >> Is this still "broken" in F12? If so, it should be in the release notes >> since its obviously also broken in F11 >> > > Glad I could be of help. BTW, this was also broken in Fedora 10. grumble. (Which my laptop also missed.) This problem definitely needs to be mentioned in the release notes for nomodeset. It breaks functionality. My home server will soon be leapfrogging from F10 to either F12 or F13 (depends on when I actually get around to doing it). My laptop will remain on F11 until after that. > Peter Thanks again Peter! -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is suspend broken?
On 01/08/2010 06:34 PM, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: >> I'm running Fedora 11 on an x86_64 Core 2 Quad Xeon and a Supermicro >> X7DWA-N motherboard. I previously ran Fedora 10. >> >> Suspend mostly works for me, but when I wake back up, I can't make the >> network work. > > I should mention that with the amount of RAM installed in my machine - > 16 GB - suspend isn't really all that useful because of the amount of > time it takes to write the contents of memory to disk when suspending, > and to read it back in when waking up. It takes just about as long as > it would to just do a shutdown and reboot. That would be "hibernate" or "suspend to disk". I was talking about "suspend to RAM". The whole point of "suspend to RAM" is that not much needs to be written to disk during suspend, and not much needs to be done upon resume to continue. Its supposed to be fast already, certainly faster than shutting down and rebooting. > The one situation I'd want to use shutdown instead is if I had a bunch > of windows open that I don't want to lose, and I need to leave the > machine for such a long time that I don't want to use all the > electricity. There is a newer "suspend to both" which is designed to "suspend to RAM" but also sets up "suspend to disk" just in case the machine is off long enough to exhaust the battery and loses the RAM, in which case it can be recovered from disk. > Don Quixote -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is suspend broken?
> > > HTH, > > It did indeed. Thanks! > > > Peter > > Is this still "broken" in F12? If so, it should be in the release notes > since its obviously also broken in F11 > Glad I could be of help. BTW, this was also broken in Fedora 10. Peter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is suspend broken?
> I'm running Fedora 11 on an x86_64 Core 2 Quad Xeon and a Supermicro > X7DWA-N motherboard. I previously ran Fedora 10. > > Suspend mostly works for me, but when I wake back up, I can't make the > network work. I should mention that with the amount of RAM installed in my machine - 16 GB - suspend isn't really all that useful because of the amount of time it takes to write the contents of memory to disk when suspending, and to read it back in when waking up. It takes just about as long as it would to just do a shutdown and reboot. The one situation I'd want to use shutdown instead is if I had a bunch of windows open that I don't want to lose, and I need to leave the machine for such a long time that I don't want to use all the electricity. Don Quixote -- Don Quixote de la Mancha quix...@dulcineatech.com http://www.dulcineatech.com Dulcinea Technologies Corporation: Software of Elegance and Beauty. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is suspend broken?
On 01/08/2010 03:10 PM, Peter Langfelder wrote: > Not sure if this will help, but you can try. I have a Lenovo T60 with > some ATI graphics card and the standard radeon driver. Suspend only > works if the system is booted with a nomodeset option. I don't quite > recall what went wrong when trying suspend on a modesetting kernel, > but it never worked. Bingo! Obvious work-around found! That was it! When I add "nomodeset" to the grub kernel line, it suspends & resumes just fine. Thanks! That saves me from mucking with the suspend configuration (which now doesn't need mucking with)! > BTW, as far as I remember, when suspended, the machine only wakes up > when the laptop lid is opened - pressing keys does not wake it up. Nope, a key-press worked fine for me. > HTH, It did indeed. Thanks! > Peter Is this still "broken" in F12? If so, it should be in the release notes since its obviously also broken in F11 -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is suspend broken?
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > When I bought my laptop, it was shipped with a cubbi-suspend2 kernel and > the fglrx driver and ran under FC6.i386. suspend worked for me on the > shipped configuration. > > When I upgraded to F9.x86_64, I no longer needed the cubbi-suspend2 > kernel (now called tuxonice), and suspend worked really well. I was > still using the fglrx video driver. > > Now that I'm running F11.x86_64, there is no fglrx (or catalyst) driver > for my video, and suspend no longer works for me. There are no errors > listed in my pm-suspend.log, in fact, the last thing in this file claims > that it is "performing suspend". However, my system never powers down > and never enters the suspend mode (with the flashing power LED > indicator). It remains powered on. The only way to get the system back > is to lean on the power button until the system powers down. The power > LED is then off. The only way to power back up is to touch the power > button again, and after which the system goes through a complete cold > start and reboots from scratch. When it is properly suspended, I should > be able to touch "any" key to resume from suspend back to a running system. > > Can anyone please tell me what (obvious thing) I'm missing? > Not sure if this will help, but you can try. I have a Lenovo T60 with some ATI graphics card and the standard radeon driver. Suspend only works if the system is booted with a nomodeset option. I don't quite recall what went wrong when trying suspend on a modesetting kernel, but it never worked. BTW, as far as I remember, when suspended, the machine only wakes up when the laptop lid is opened - pressing keys does not wake it up. HTH, Peter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is suspend broken?
On 01/08/2010 01:53 PM, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > I'm running Fedora 11 on an x86_64 Core 2 Quad Xeon and a Supermicro > X7DWA-N motherboard. I previously ran Fedora 10. > > Suspend mostly works for me, but when I wake back up, I can't make the > network work. I tried restarting networking, ifconfig down and then > up again, but nothing I've tried will make the network come back. Glad to see that you can at least suspend. suspend never completes for me. I can't get there to see if I can resume or not. > I've been assuming it's a kernel bug, but haven't gotten it together > to report it. Does anyone else have this problem? A workaround? I'm in the same boat, I haven't reported any bug yet, but I will have time this weekend to play with it. > Don Quixote -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is suspend broken?
I'm running Fedora 11 on an x86_64 Core 2 Quad Xeon and a Supermicro X7DWA-N motherboard. I previously ran Fedora 10. Suspend mostly works for me, but when I wake back up, I can't make the network work. I tried restarting networking, ifconfig down and then up again, but nothing I've tried will make the network come back. I've been assuming it's a kernel bug, but haven't gotten it together to report it. Does anyone else have this problem? A workaround? Don Quixote -- Don Quixote de la Mancha quix...@dulcineatech.com http://www.dulcineatech.com Dulcinea Technologies Corporation: Software of Elegance and Beauty. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
is suspend broken?
When I bought my laptop, it was shipped with a cubbi-suspend2 kernel and the fglrx driver and ran under FC6.i386. suspend worked for me on the shipped configuration. When I upgraded to F9.x86_64, I no longer needed the cubbi-suspend2 kernel (now called tuxonice), and suspend worked really well. I was still using the fglrx video driver. Now that I'm running F11.x86_64, there is no fglrx (or catalyst) driver for my video, and suspend no longer works for me. There are no errors listed in my pm-suspend.log, in fact, the last thing in this file claims that it is "performing suspend". However, my system never powers down and never enters the suspend mode (with the flashing power LED indicator). It remains powered on. The only way to get the system back is to lean on the power button until the system powers down. The power LED is then off. The only way to power back up is to touch the power button again, and after which the system goes through a complete cold start and reboots from scratch. When it is properly suspended, I should be able to touch "any" key to resume from suspend back to a running system. Can anyone please tell me what (obvious thing) I'm missing? -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines