Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability
> i think you owe it to others who > adopt from this shelter and the shelter itself to tell them > about this. maybe they don't realize that they should > test all cat coming to them and maybe they are staffed by Hello, I spoke to the volunteers of the shelter about my cat, but the situation has gotten worse. They says they informed me he was not tested and I remember clearly they did not. So, we are on opposite sides. However, they now do test their cats, even if I think that those tests cannot be accurate 100% due to the living situation in a shelter, where many cats are together and diseases can be spreaded easily. The situation in my home is: Trudi, FIV- FeLV+, with dermatitis and stomatitis. She seem better than before, but not ok. She has a check-up scheduled for next saturday. Ginny, negative for both. Babette, negative for both and under vaccination just now (she got the first shot and on saturday she will receive the second one). I hope everything is well. Miro, FIV and FeLV+, under this last two weeks has developed a serious illnes that can be something of the liver or FIP! This was the final stroke, for me. I'm very very sad. The vets suspect FIP or another disease and we sent a sample of its abdominal liquid for a PCR. Does anyone have info about FIP? I have read a lot and discovered that it's very difficult to diagnose, so maybe he has another disease and it's better to treat him for them. I know that FIP has no cure. Stefania ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] R: Hello- new to the list.
Hello, I also had my cat, Trudi, diagnosed with FeLV only recently, and she is almost 9. She was not tested as kitten, but she was alway vaccinated. I too don't know if she were positive as a kitten or what. Stefania __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Trudi (was: PCR test reliability)
I have some good news: my two little ones, Ginny and Babette, are negatives and well. Ginny has been vaccinated two times already (she is two y.o.) and Babette is only 6 months and we have to wait after she recover from her operation to vaccine her. My dear Trudi is now taking: - Baytril for any infection - Orozyme for stomatitis - Ribes pet (vitamin E) My vet also gave me Retopix (Aldemidrol) spot on to control dermatitis, but when i put it on Trudi, she starts licking herself and her hair away and to me it seems worse. I don't understand! In these days, after taking Baytril, it seemed a bit better. In the places where she had lesions now she has crusts. But with this drops she becomes obsessed and bite and licks herself. Do you have any experience of something similar? Stefania Passa a Yahoo! Mail. La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, antispam e messenger integrato. http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I's so sorry for your losses! It's a pain, I can understand it very well. Hugs, Stefania Passa a Yahoo! Mail. La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, antispam e messenger integrato. http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability
> Hi Stefania! Beautiful pictures of Trudi, Natale and > Babette. I just love Babette's ID card! I hope Trude > is well now. :-) Natale is actually Christmas! :-)) My cats are Trudi, Miro, Ginny and Babette. I also have a visiting cat who I call Gigio, but you cannot touch him. About thyroid: I will ask the vet, tomorrow, when I'll go there. I noticed that today Trudi's hair is smoother (yesterday I used a wet tissue to clean her, without any shamppo, only water), but she keeps on licking herself on the chest and forearms. It happens more in the evening. About the mouth: she is better. The new vet to whom I took her, gave me Orozyme. I used it yesterday, but the nose and mouth seemed better also before it. I also gave her Baytril yesterday and today. I don't understand if the fact that she has a positive ELISA plus a positive PCR test indicates that she is in the viremic phase, i.e. she has just catched the FeLV. This could be consistent with the new cat coming here, even is she has been tested negative at ehe age of 4 moths (2 moths ago). She maybe wasn't negative and since she was living in a shelter... Tomorrow I will have her re-tested together with Ginny and I'll have the total situation. Stef Passa a Yahoo! Mail. La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, antispam e messenger integrato. http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] R: PCR test reliability
> One of my cats, Misty, who is FELV negative went through a > period of obsessive licking where she literally took hair off and had > bald spots. Vet thought it might be nerves--she's a bit of a > "nervous nelly" and is absolutely obsessed with food. Let me go back > >through my notes to see what we did but whatever it was, it worked and >she > sort of stopped Thanks. It could be also something like that, because Trudi has never been to the vet as much as in these days and she's nervous, in fact. Stef Passa a Yahoo! Mail. La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, antispam e messenger integrato. http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] R: PCR test reliability
> Did he do blood work for thyroid problems? They had her blood tested and I have all values, such as iron, proteins, cholesterol etc... Is there anything more specific for thyroid? Stef Passa a Yahoo! Mail. La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, antispam e messenger integrato. http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] R: PCR test reliability
CHRIS: > Does the vet tell you what he thinks caused the dermatitis? No, the vet says that it could be amoxicillin but it could also be something FeLV related or even fleas. We tried to eliminate amoxicillin and fleas, first. The cat, however, keeps on licking herself bald. She does that on her chest, near the two forearms. I agree with you about the transmission :-) DEBBIE: >>I don't mean to intrude here, but what type of gel did you get for the >>stomatitis I cannot tell just now because I left the recipe at the pharmacy (they had to order the gel) and will go there in the afternoon to take the gel. DIANE: >>Your cats are very cute! Thanks! I also agree with you on vets. It's very difficult, as for human, to find a doctor who keeps up to date. Today Trudi's nose is a bit better. I hope interferon did something. Stef Passa a Yahoo! Mail. La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, antispam e messenger integrato. http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] R: PCR test reliability
Please, can anyone help me? My cat has dermatitis and she keeps on taking away her hair. I don't know what to think! My vet says we have to wait but the cat gets worse. Stefania ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability
Hi Chris, thank-you very much for sharing your story. The problem here is that in these days I read very much on FeLV and FIV and I agree with you. My cats have always been together (except for Trudi, who is a lone wolf), they play, groom each other and they eat together even if they have one bowl each :-) They go out and I live in the country, so there are surely many stray cats and many owners who don't bother to test their cats! What am I supposed to do? I don't want to keep them inside because it's like a prison for them. On friday I will test the last two of them and I strongly hope they're negative, so I will continue to vaccine them and hope. My vet scared me a lot saying that FIV is very transmissible and the virus is strong and cats can catch it by grooming each other. Since I knew that it's not so, I tried to ask once again to this vet, but she keeps on saying that FIV spreads very well. I'm really surprised to hear so... I so decided to take Trudi to another vet and she immediately recognized stomatitis in her mouth (which the first one denied) and nose. She simply gave me a gel for her mouth. About the dermatitis: it can be for amoxicillin but we don't know. We decided to use, first, something against fleas and then wait and see. If the situation does not change, we will try with a local gel. Has anyone had experience with dermatitis? For Trudi it's the first time, and that's why I think it was the amoxicillin. If you want to see picture of my 4 babies, I have a blog. It's written in "cattish" so you cannot understand, but you can see pictures. It's www.trumiro.com Hi all! Stef Passa a Yahoo! Mail. La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, antispam e messenger integrato. http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability
Hi, > Give them suppotive cats good food and lots of love. Yes, I already use good food of quality and in fact I have this infected cat since 2007 and he's living very well. I hope my older too will regain energy and be well again, even if I know that their destiny will be to develop something serious. >I do not blame my shelter as it was animal control and his fate was death My shelter claims to give away only tested cats, but this was not the case and now... they're even blaming me for causing a possible infection to the last kitten I've adopted!!! This is a pain, because it was their fault and now they're attacking me. I'm really sad for this, because I never complained with them about giving care to the cats they gave me in a poor health condition. I have 4 cats and two of them are "mine": the older one (Trudi) comes from a friend of mine who had a queen with kitten, the other one (Ginny) was found by me on the road, and kept. These two are healthy and have never been to the vet, except for the vaccination. The other two (Miro and Babette) come from the same shelter and both developed rhinitis and had problems with their eyes etc. In these two months, since I took the 4th cat, I've been almost 20 times to the vet!!! And it's going on... But I think we will survive, eventually! :-) Stef Passa a Yahoo! Mail. La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, antispam e messenger integrato. http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability
> I am certainly not diagnosing your cat. In humans a smooth > tongue is a symptom of anemia. Anemia is common in FELV cats. Are her > gums pale? I had severe anemia and my tongue was very sore as well. >Could be > why she is not grooming it hurts. > Thank-you Sally and all! I don't think she has anemia, because her blood test gave good results: she only has a higher level of cholesterol, but the other things are ok. Today I will go to another vet at 11.00 and I will explain everything to her in order to understand what is happening. Yesterday I had another shock: my other cat (I have 4 cats) who comes from a shelter and was before a stray cat, is positive both with FIV and FeLV. When I took him from the shelter they did not have him tested and did not say anything. He has a chronic rhinitis because he was ill as a kitten, but he copes well, eats, etc... I did not test him when I took him because I was ignorant and I thought that FeLV could be transmitted with prolonged contact or fight and sexual intercourse. Since he was neutered and was a quiet cat, I wasn't worried. Now, with my older cat being diagnosed wiht FeLV, I'm proceeding to test all other cats, and this is the surprise: HE is ill, so the most probable thing is that this cat came to my house and brought FeLV with him, because my older cat has always lived with me and been strong and in excellent health and have never had contacts with other cats because of her very strange behaviour (a sort of "Mr. Monk"!). The shelter is responsible for this, and now I'm very worried for the other two cats. Even though they are vaccinated against FeLV, I know that the vaccine cannot guarantee 100% coverage (is coverage the right word?) against the virus. If my older cat, who is always by herself and does not even go where the other cats go, has been infected, I cannot imagine what happened with the other two, who are close friends with this poor cat and are always together grooming theirselves and playing. I'm really sad and disillusioned. I learned, however, that cats can live many years even if they're positive, so ... let's hope. Thank you all, I will write the news later. This list is a blessing. Stefania Passa a Yahoo! Mail. La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, antispam e messenger integrato. http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability
> Check with another vet. A specialist testing the Royal > Princess Kitty Katt (not FeLV+ but diagnosing cancer) about > killed her with some medsof course he said it wasn't > the drugs but she straightened up under the care of her > regular vet. For over a week I thought she was dying. She > could barely move. If your gut tells you one thing and the > vet says another check it out. I can't answer your > other questions but I am sure someone on the panel can. The > amount of knowledge and experience here is amazing. Thanks a lot. I'm very anxious with my cat because she has NEVER been ill in all her life and now she has everything?!?!? I cannot understand, really. I cannot accept that she is Felv+ and has never never had any slight problem in NINE years of age! She has never taken any medication, except for one injection of Baytrill two years ago, because she had ache in her throat. How can she be Felv+ and have other problems? If you read my first message I described her current problem: saliva production + strange tongue (it seems smooth and not as a cat tongue has to be) + red and watery nose (but not as in a cold!, it's the nose itself that is wet). Stefania Passa a Yahoo! Mail. La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, antispam e messenger integrato. http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability
Hi, > Make sure there is no thyroid problem. Hair loose is a > common sign of that. Could it be that she is allergic to amoxicillin or to the anesthetic? She developed this dermatitis two day after we stopped amoxicillin and the day after she was sedated to take a blood test. Can this change the results of PCR? I'm really upset and my vet thinks that the dermatitis has not been caused by the medication, but I cannot agree with that. Stefania Passa a Yahoo! Mail. La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, antispam e messenger integrato. http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
