Re: [Felvtalk] pregnant positive cat
Well, yes, of course spayed. I was just saying "terminated" because after a
certain point, sometimes a "kitty dnc" of sorts, is necessary. I didn't mean
to imply I thought she should be left intact, by any means.
Sealed with a purr.. =^.,^=
~Kat~
***I'm Kat Parker; I park cats***
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> From: judith cook
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> AllYes, I AM planning to do a spay, if that's what we think is best. ?I have
> heard about cats in heat - really devious little devils, and pains in the
> neck. ?Really want to get this resolved, and hoping that it works out best
> for my kitty. ?Her name is Spice, and she is (no surprise) a tortoiseshell
> with white chest, belly, and paws. ?She really looks a lot like another
> tortie I once had - a little jewel also. ?Thanks so much for your advice and
> interest. ?Will let you know ASAP.Judy
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> On Thursday, January 15, 2015 3:57 AM, Margo
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> Kat??? You're still timely, there will be a meeting with the Vet
> Friday, I believe. I just want to be clear on what I stated, so there is no
> misunderstanding :). I think Kitty should be spayed, not aborted. Leaving her
> intact would be an invitation to a repeat pregnancy, and the stress of heat
> cycles. No matter how careful we are, cats get out, and?a cat in heat is VERY
> resourceful! At least with a spay, it's all over with.All the best,Margo
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: Kat Parker
> Sent: Jan 14, 2015 1:25 PM
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] pregnant FeLV cat
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> PLEASE have the abort the kittens. We have our vets here for the
> ? FCC terminate cats pregnancies up until the time of birth, sometimes. And
> if you have watched many kittens die of FeLV, like I have,you wouldnt wish
> that on them. Not Only born to die,but a terrible death that is
> unnecessary. I realize I am not replying in a timely manner, and I hope
> it is not too late, but please, do the right thing by these kittens.Also,
> in terms of Momma's Stress, no doubt about it, kitten birth, nursing, the
> stress involved,and watching her own kittens die one by one. Please
> terminate this pregnancy.
>
>
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>
> *Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **"I'm Kat
> Parker. I park cats."*
> * "Spay & neuter your neighbors... maybe THAT will fix the problem."*
> *"Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE & HAPPY
> cat!"*
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>> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 03:31:36 + (UTC)
>> From: judith cook
>> To: Margo ,
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>> I don't know how far along. ?Just got this kitty right after Christmas.
>> ?The vet can feel her kittens, though, so I guess it's not just the
>> beginning. ?The vet is trying to get so
Re: [Felvtalk] pregnant positive cat
Hi Kat,
Guess we're all on the same page. When I saw you mention "abort" I
wanted to be clear on my thoughts. I'm curious about the "kitty dnc", could you
explain?
Thanks!
Margo
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>From: Korruptakitty
>Sent: Jan 15, 2015 9:26 PM
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>Well, yes, of course spayed. I was just saying "terminated" because after a
>certain point, sometimes a "kitty dnc" of sorts, is necessary. I didn't mean
>to imply I thought she should be left intact, by any means.
>
>Sealed with a purr.. =^.,^=
>
>~Kat~
>
>
>***I'm Kat Parker; I park cats***
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 01:48:06 + (UTC)
>> From: judith cook
>> To: Margo ,
>>"felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" ,
>>"felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] pregnant FeLV cat
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>> AllYes, I AM planning to do a spay, if that's what we think is best. ?I have
>> heard about cats in heat - really devious little devils, and pains in the
>> neck. ?Really want to get this resolved, and hoping that it works out best
>> for my kitty. ?Her name is Spice, and she is (no surprise) a tortoiseshell
>> with white chest, belly, and paws. ?She really looks a lot like another
>> tortie I once had - a little jewel also. ?Thanks so much for your advice and
>> interest. ?Will let you know ASAP.Judy
>>
>> On Thursday, January 15, 2015 3:57 AM, Margo
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> #yiv6002453355 body{font-family:Geneva, Arial, Helvetica,
>> sans-serif;font-size:9pt;background-color:#ff;color:black;} ?Hi
>> Kat??? You're still timely, there will be a meeting with the Vet
>> Friday, I believe. I just want to be clear on what I stated, so there is no
>> misunderstanding :). I think Kitty should be spayed, not aborted. Leaving
>> her intact would be an invitation to a repeat pregnancy, and the stress of
>> heat cycles. No matter how careful we are, cats get out, and?a cat in heat
>> is VERY resourceful! At least with a spay, it's all over with.All the
>> best,Margo
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kat Parker
>> Sent: Jan 14, 2015 1:25 PM
>> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] pregnant FeLV cat
>>
>> PLEASE have the abort the kittens. We have our vets here for the
>> ? FCC terminate cats pregnancies up until the time of birth, sometimes. And
>> if you have watched many kittens die of FeLV, like I have,you wouldnt wish
>> that on them. Not Only born to die,but a terrible death that is
>> unnecessary. I realize I am not replying in a timely manner, and I hope
>> it is not too late, but please, do the right thing by these kittens.Also,
>> in terms of Momma's Stress, no doubt about it, kitten birth, nursing, the
>> stress involved,and watching her own kittens die one by one. Please
>> terminate this pregnancy.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **"I'm Kat
>> Parker. I park cats."*
>> * "Spay & neuter your neighbors... maybe THAT will fix the problem."*
>> *"Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE & HAPPY
>> cat!"*
>>
>> *http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector
>> *
Re: [Felvtalk] pregnant positive cat
I am getting more confused. A standard spay of a female cat involves removal of both ovaries and both uterine horns. The uterus is not left behind, so there would be no D & C as is done with humans after a miscarriage. The ovaries, uterus, AND kittens inside it would come out during a spay, thus terminating (or aborting) the pregnancy by default. Spaying is not just tying tubes. If she was confirmed positive by IFA test, I personally would schedule this asap, but would ask the vet about what happens at whatever stage of pregnancy she's at, and how would they ensure the kittens would pass peacefully. It's awful to think about, but bringing a litter (how many? 3, 4, 5 or more?) of FeLV+ kittens into the world isn't so great to think about either. How would you place them, would you keep them all? It would be very hard emotionally and financially, I think. Marsha (best wishes, whatever you decide) On 1/15/2015 8:26 PM, Korruptakitty wrote: Well, yes, of course spayed. I was just saying "terminated" because after a certain point, sometimes a "kitty dnc" of sorts, is necessary. I didn't mean to imply I thought she should be left intact, by any means. Sealed with a purr.. =^.,^= ~Kat~ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] pregnant positive cat
That's a tough issue and I can see both sides. The kittens would take a lot of her nutrients during nursing, but I don't know how much that would compromise her immune system. The idea of eliminating a pregnancy during spay appeals to no one, but raising a litter of positive kittens has it's own share of heartbreaks. I'm sure you and your vet will make the right call for sweet Spice. She's lucky to have you caring for her. On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Marsha wrote: > I am getting more confused. A standard spay of a female cat involves > removal of both ovaries and both uterine horns. The uterus is not left > behind, so there would be no D & C as is done with humans after a > miscarriage. The ovaries, uterus, AND kittens inside it would come out > during a spay, thus terminating (or aborting) the pregnancy by default. > Spaying is not just tying tubes. If she was confirmed positive by IFA > test, I personally would schedule this asap, but would ask the vet about > what happens at whatever stage of pregnancy she's at, and how would they > ensure the kittens would pass peacefully. It's awful to think about, but > bringing a litter (how many? 3, 4, 5 or more?) of FeLV+ kittens into the > world isn't so great to think about either. How would you place them, > would you keep them all? It would be very hard emotionally and financially, > I think. > > Marsha > (best wishes, whatever you decide) > > On 1/15/2015 8:26 PM, Korruptakitty wrote: > >> Well, yes, of course spayed. I was just saying "terminated" because >> after a certain point, sometimes a "kitty dnc" of sorts, is necessary. I >> didn't mean to imply I thought she should be left intact, by any means. >> >> Sealed with a purr.. =^.,^= >> >> ~Kat~ >> >> > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
