filmscanners: Superia, CM et al
Hi folks - I have two questions. One is I'm having a very hard time scanning Superia 400, and there's no setting for it in Vuescan. Colors are coming out all wrong even on the scan, and it's very hard to even know where to start fixing. What Vuescan settings can I tweak? in some cases I've done quite a lot of work in PSP7 or PElements and gotten things pretty good looking, and then when I print it . . . oy vey. I have one of these new Epson 820s - is anything established yet about how good they are at color reproduction? Which leads me to my next question - what is the next step in getting into CM? I understand there are some programs for it? So far all I've done is the gamma calibration offered by Photoshop Elements, but I think this is pretty rudimentary. I realize I probably need to learn a lot more about "colorspaces" that I'm working in, but for now I'm trying to do everything in sRGB. What are my next steps towards getting really good control over my camera to print workflow? Ken Durling Photo.net portfolio: http://www.photo.net/shared/community-member?user_id=402251
Re: filmscanners: Superia, CM et al
Ken Durling wrote: > Hi folks - > > I have two questions. One is I'm having a very hard time scanning > Superia 400, and there's no setting for it in Vuescan. Colors are > coming out all wrong even on the scan, and it's very hard to even know > where to start fixing. What Vuescan settings can I tweak? There are two types listed for Fuji which are 400 asa NHG and SHR. Have you tried either of these? rob
Re: filmscanners: Superia, CM et al
Read the "Advanced Workflow Suggestions" section of the help file and lock in a test exposure. It worked for me on Superia 800.. Working in sRGB is fine, but you might look into profiling your monitor with Colorvision's Spyder with Photocal, and into printer profiles using either software such as Colorvision's ProfilerPRO, Monaco's EZ-Color, or WiziWYG. For the basics of Color Management, try these out: <http://www.creativepro.com/story/feature/13605.html> <http://www.creativepro.com/story/feature/13036.html> <http://www.creativepro.com/story/feature/2440.html> <http://www.computer-darkroom.co.uk/> (see especially the Essay Configuring Photoshop 6 & Colour Management) <http://www.digitaldog.net/> <http://www.colorremedies.com/> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~binaryfx/PSTV_links.html Hope this helps Maris Lidaka Maris - Original Message - From: "Ken Durling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 12:12 AM Subject: filmscanners: Superia, CM et al | Hi folks - | | I have two questions. One is I'm having a very hard time scanning | Superia 400, and there's no setting for it in Vuescan. Colors are | coming out all wrong even on the scan, and it's very hard to even know | where to start fixing. What Vuescan settings can I tweak? | | in some cases I've done quite a lot of work in PSP7 or PElements and | gotten things pretty good looking, and then when I print it . . . oy | vey. I have one of these new Epson 820s - is anything established | yet about how good they are at color reproduction? | | Which leads me to my next question - what is the next step in getting | into CM? I understand there are some programs for it? So far all | I've done is the gamma calibration offered by Photoshop Elements, but | I think this is pretty rudimentary. I realize I probably need to | learn a lot more about "colorspaces" that I'm working in, but for now | I'm trying to do everything in sRGB. | | What are my next steps towards getting really good control over my | camera to print workflow? | | | | Ken Durling | | | | Photo.net portfolio: | | http://www.photo.net/shared/community-member?user_id=402251 |
Re: filmscanners: Superia, CM et al
On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 23:59:45 +1100, you wrote: > > >Ken Durling wrote: > >> Hi folks - >> >> I have two questions. One is I'm having a very hard time scanning >> Superia 400, and there's no setting for it in Vuescan. Colors are >> coming out all wrong even on the scan, and it's very hard to even know >> where to start fixing. What Vuescan settings can I tweak? > >There are two types listed for Fuji which are 400 asa NHG and SHR. Have >you tried either of these? > >rob > Tried NHG, and it was way off. Haven't tried SHG, and I don't know why not! Will do and report. Ken
Re: filmscanners: Superia, CM et al
Ken Durling wrote: >I have two questions. One is I'm having a very hard time scanning >Superia 400, and there's no setting for it in Vuescan. General consensus is to use Reala 100 (Japan), I believe. That choice gives me the most accurate colour with Superia. >Which leads me to my next question - what is the next step in getting into CM? I would forget about CM until you have achieved a satisfactory workflow through to your printed output, with colour that you think is pretty good. Then maybe CM can gild the lily? Colin Maddock
Re: filmscanners: Superia, CM et al
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:38:56 +1300, you wrote: >Ken Durling wrote: >>I have two questions. One is I'm having a very hard time scanning >>Superia 400, and there's no setting for it in Vuescan. > >General consensus is to use Reala 100 (Japan), I believe. That choice gives me the >most accurate colour with Superia. > > >>Which leads me to my next question - what is the next step in getting >into CM? > >I would forget about CM until you have achieved a satisfactory workflow through to >your printed output, with colour that you think is pretty good. Then maybe CM can >gild the lily? > Colin - Well, with the exception of a few films, I think I *am* fairly satisfied with my workflow, which is why I think I'm ready to get a little more precise. I'm just getting small variations between my monitor and printer - small but significant, like in skintones. I realize I'm probably opening a can of worms, though, and we all know that the only way to get them back in the can is to use a bigger can! Ken Durling Photo.net portfolio: http://www.photo.net/shared/community-member?user_id=402251
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>>Ken Durling wrote: >Tried NHG, and it was way off. Haven't tried SHG, and I don't know >why not! Will do and report. I don't know if you've tried this, but have a go at "Generic Colour Negative" and "Neutral" instead of "White Balance". Rob Rob Geraghty [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wordweb.com
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:35:41 +1000, you wrote: >>>Ken Durling wrote: >>Tried NHG, and it was way off. Haven't tried SHG, and I don't know >>why not! Will do and report. > >I don't know if you've tried this, but have a go at "Generic Colour Negative" >and "Neutral" instead of "White Balance". > >Rob Thanks Rob - trying that now. Ken
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Folks - Your suggestions are helping. "Generic" and "Neutral" color balance are getting me closer to at least the right hues, although the saturation is still way off. Tweaking the brightness levels of the reds and blues in the scan are helping too. I think it's to the point where I can probably photoshop it, although I've never had anything be this far off since I got the scanner! Wow. So thanks. Ken
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"Ken Durling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Your suggestions are helping. "Generic" and "Neutral" color balance > are getting me closer to at least the right hues, although the > saturation is still way off. Saturation is always low with Vuescan in my experience, but it's easily fixed in an editor. Glad you could get a bit closer! Rob