Re: [Finale] Plea for help TAN

2002-05-21 Thread Harold Steinhardt

The 6/9 chord was very common for this style of music.  I believe this 
to be Db69.

Harold


On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, at 08:36 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:

> At 8:34 PM -0400 5/21/02, David H. Bailey wrote:
>> Looks to me more like a Bbm7add4 in first inversion.
>>
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> Dear David,
>
> It may look like that to you; I don't dispute that.  But to musicians 
> who are conversant with mid to late 20th Century American popular music 
> and jazz conventions, this is unquestionably recognized as a 69 chord.
>
> Calling it something else (for the community described above) is less 
> descriptive.
>
> Chuck
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Re: [Finale] Plea for help TAN

2002-05-21 Thread Doug Auwarter

on 5/21/02 7:34 PM, David H. Bailey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Looks to me more like a Bbm7add4 in first inversion.
OK, let's see. Db root/bass. In addition to the root, we need a 3rd: F
(check), a fifth: Ab (check), a sixth: Bb (check), and a ninth: Eb (check).
Voila! A Db 6/9! Or wait a minute! Maybe it's an Eb9sus in 3rd inversion...
:-)
Doug

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Re: [Finale] Plea for help TAN

2002-05-21 Thread Chuck Israels

At 8:34 PM -0400 5/21/02, David H. Bailey wrote:
>Looks to me more like a Bbm7add4 in first inversion.
>

Dear David,

It may look like that to you; I don't dispute that.  But to musicians 
who are conversant with mid to late 20th Century American popular 
music and jazz conventions, this is unquestionably recognized as a 69 
chord.

Calling it something else (for the community described above) is less 
descriptive.

Chuck





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Re: [Finale] Plea for help TAN

2002-05-21 Thread David H. Bailey

Looks to me more like a Bbm7add4 in first inversion.



Doug Auwarter wrote:

>>- Original Message -
>>From: Tobias Giesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 7:59 PM
>>Subject: RE: [Finale] Plea for help TAN
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The trombone chord at the beginning of Pennsylvania
6-5000 ...

>>>I think it's Eb, F, Ab, Bb over a Db in the bass.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Tobias
>>>
> 
> A perfect example of the previously debated 6/9 chord.
> Doug
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Re: [Finale] Plea for help TAN

2002-05-21 Thread Doug Auwarter

> - Original Message -
> From: Tobias Giesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 7:59 PM
> Subject: RE: [Finale] Plea for help TAN
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> 
>>> The trombone chord at the beginning of Pennsylvania
>>> 6-5000 ...
>> 
>> I think it's Eb, F, Ab, Bb over a Db in the bass.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Tobias

A perfect example of the previously debated 6/9 chord.
Doug

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Re: [Finale] Plea for help TAN

2002-05-21 Thread helgesen

I've always used the basic added 6th chord, close scored. Works well. Keith
in OZ
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> > The trombone chord at the beginning of Pennsylvania
> > 6-5000 ...
>
> I think it's Eb, F, Ab, Bb over a Db in the bass.
>
> Cheers,
> Tobias
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[Finale] Numbering pickup measures (was Dumb question)

2002-05-21 Thread David Larrick

I can usually see the need for standards and consistency, but in the 
case of measure numbers, I favor practicality.  I agree with David 
Bailey that the details don't much matter as long as the score and 
all of the parts agree.

Please note that sometimes a pickup occurs in the middle of a piece, 
perhaps at a meter change.  Some composers are careful to weave this 
pickup into the prevailing meter, but others are not -- and 
especially in work for the stage, it can be important not to imply a 
gratuitous, measured pause with make-up rests.  Sometimes a stray 
pickup measure can result.  Should that (partial) measure have a 
number?  I vote yes, so I can refer to it directly, i.e. I find it a 
little clearer to refer to "measure 348" than to "the pickup to 
measure 349".  (As Abel Korzeniowski notes, in either case it's 
critical that all extracted parts contain the correct, explicit rests 
in the pickup measure.)

And my usual policy of laziness dictates that I stick to Finale's 
default behavior unless there's a compelling reason not to.

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RE: [Finale] Dumb question

2002-05-21 Thread Michael Withers


Sound advice - I've wasted lots of rehearsal time forgetting *that* one!


--- On Mon 05/20, Wiz-of-Oz  wrote:
> When you start numbering from the first full measure 
> (which seems the most logical, a pickup is just an upbeat to a full
> measure after all, isn't it?)
> just make double sure that you didn't forget to input apropriate rests in
> all silent voices of the pickup,
> so that every extracted part would clearly show an upbeat to the first
> measure.
> You do not really want the Horns to see 11 measure rest at the beggining,
> instead of a pickup + 10m rest.
> 
> best regards,
> Abel Korzeniowski 
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RE: [Finale] Plea for help TAN

2002-05-21 Thread Tobias Giesen

> The trombone chord at the beginning of Pennsylvania 
> 6-5000 ...

I think it's Eb, F, Ab, Bb over a Db in the bass.

Cheers,
Tobias

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