Re: [Finale] OT: current German spelling

2012-09-20 Thread SN jef chippewa

>So it might be wrong, but if German engravers do 
>it you can't fault the rest of us for doing it 
>too. ;-)

mä




:-)


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Re: [Finale] Hearing incoming audio

2012-09-20 Thread Dick Hauser

On Sep 19, 2012, at 12:42 AM, Richard Huggins  wrote:
>  I poked all over the MIDI/Audio stuff---theMAc's and Finale's---but never 
> solved it. What do I do? 
> 

I haven't done this, but I'll bet you could use garage band.

Dick H
OlyWa




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Re: [Finale] OT: current German spelling

2012-09-20 Thread David H. Bailey
On 9/20/2012 4:57 PM, SN jef chippewa wrote:
>
>> "Mässig" is just fine.
>
> it is actually wrong, unless you are using swiss german rules
>
>> More often than not, it'll appear that way in print.
>
> you would never find it that way in a german edition
>
[snip]

I have to take issue with the "never find" -- in a Schott edition, with 
the copyright bearing the the company name of "B. Schott's Sohne, 
Mainz", of the Hindemith Trumpet Sonata, in the score it is spelled 
"Mäßig" but in the solo part it's spelled "Mässig."  I've seen the word 
most of the time engraved "Mässig."

So it might be wrong, but if German engravers do it you can't fault the 
rest of us for doing it too. ;-)

-- 
David H. Bailey
dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
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Re: [Finale] OT: current German spelling

2012-09-20 Thread SN jef chippewa

>"Mässig" is just fine.

it is actually wrong, unless you are using swiss german rules

>More often than not, it'll appear that way in print.

you would never find it that way in a german edition

why not just spell it correctly and help counter 
the horrendous massacre of foreign words used in 
spoken and written english?


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Re: [Finale] OT: current German spelling

2012-09-20 Thread Steven Larsen
"Mässig" is just fine. More often than not, it'll appear that way in print.
But you should introduce them to 'der Eszett' so that, if they do run into
it they don't think it's a 'b'. 

Steve Larsen

-Original Message-
From: Ryan [mailto:ry.squa...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:44 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: [Finale] OT: current German spelling

I know there have been some changes in German spelling conventions recently,
but I'm not certain of the specifics.
Is "Mäßig" still correct? Is "Mässig" incorrect?
I'm trying to introduce some German terms to my younger students, but I'd
rather not introduce a new letter like "ß" if I don't need to.
Thanks!



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Re: [Finale] ligature in custom music font not working in F2012

2012-09-20 Thread SN jef chippewa

>exactly what do you mean by ligatures?

i was talking about building a custom font that 
included ligatures so that when i type 2 specific 
characters together, a third in fact shows, which 
is an alternate (and preferred) version of the 
combination of the two.  check this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typographic_ligature

(by the way, the street signs in the "German ß" 
section is right around the corner from me :-) 
... it's amazing that even in this tiny photo you 
get the impression of how grey and ugly berlin is)

>Do you actually mean beaming, as it seems above?

sort of, but within a text string.  i wanted to 
be able to type my character for a flagged 16th 
(for example) twice in a row and have the 
programme know that i want a beamed two-16th note 
figure and produce it, rather than having to 
create either a beam start and end character or a 
single glypohs containing the entire beamed 
figure.

there are many reasons for me wanting this, that 
include managing an accessible mapping of glyphs 
that is complemented by the ligatures 
(inaccessible to the ordinary user as characters 
themselves, but showing when appropriate), and 
having greater control over the positioning of 
ties and dots for design consistency.

>Ligatures have a very specific meaning historically...

yes, but i said:

>>i am designing a font (open type) containing 
>>characters for durations and to be used for 
>>tempo indications and time sigs and am trying 
>>to get ligatures to work.  for example, when i 
>>type 2 flagged sixteenth notes directly after 
>>one another, 2 beamed 16ths result.


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[Finale] Hearing incoming audio

2012-09-20 Thread Richard Huggins
FINMAC 2012

After (cough, sputter) years of using Finale, I am just now getting into the 
Add Audio Track feature. I am singing into a Roland VP-7, which is a vocal 
designer. It makes you into a choir or adds back-up singers or…lots o' stuff. 
The output is going into the mic jack on my Mac. And it DOES record, I just 
can't hear it as it does. If I plug my headphones into the Roland, I can hear 
the Roland's output but not Finale's. (I am not going thru a mixer.) I poked 
all over the MIDI/Audio stuff---theMAc's and Finale's---but never solved it. 
What do I do? 

Richard
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Re: [Finale] ligature in custom music font not working in F2012

2012-09-20 Thread John Howell
>On 19 September 2012 06:23, SN jef chippewa
>wrote:
>
>>
>>  i am designing a font (open type) containing characters for durations
>>  and to be used for tempo indications and time sigs and am trying to
>>  get ligatures to work.  for example, when i type 2 flagged sixteenth
>>  notes directly after one another, 2 beamed 16ths result.


Jef, please forgive my lack of understanding, but 
exactly what do you mean by ligatures?  Do you 
actually mean beaming, as it seems above?

Ligatures have a very specific meaning 
historically, originating in the earliest 
attempts at a non-letter notation in the 9th and 
10th centuries, growing into a system of neumes, 
and incorporated into Guido's 11th century chant 
notation, and simply refer to more than one note 
combined into a single graphic form--something 
for which today we would simply use a slur.  And 
THOSE ligatures lasted well into the 15th and 
16th centuries, and in fact are still used in 
Gregorian chant notation.  Franco of Cologne 
assigned them specific note values in the 
mid-13th century and they are easily sightread 
after learning his few simple rules.

John


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Re: [Finale] erratic cautionary accidental plugin

2012-09-20 Thread Chuck Israels
Perfect!  Jari to the rescue again. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2012, at 1:36 AM, Jari Williamsson 
 wrote:

> On 2012-09-20 02:31, Chuck Israels wrote:
>> The most annoying is that accidentals that
>> appeared correctly in the file now have parentheses
>> applied to them necessitating a meticulous process
>> of removing them - a process that is only slightly
>> less harrowing than proof reading the file and entering
>> the cautionary accidentals by hand.  Incidentally, my
>> plugin is set to show no parentheses even on the
>> cautionary accidentals.
> 
> I don't use the Cautionary Accidentals plug-in myself, but if you want 
> to remove all the parentheses from your accidentals, you can do that 
> easily in the JW Change (Beta). Accidentals->Parentheses->Hide and apply 
> on the whole document.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Jari Williamsson
> 
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Re: [Finale] ligature in custom music font not working in F2012

2012-09-20 Thread SN jef chippewa

dammit that isn't the answer i wanted :-)

thanks, andrew.

>Even if Finale now has Unicode support, this doesn't mean that 
>ligatures should work. Automatic ligatures would require a certain 
>level of *OpenType* support. Looks like you'd have to encode them 
>and then access them directly.

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Re: [Finale] erratic cautionary accidental plugin

2012-09-20 Thread Jari Williamsson
On 2012-09-20 02:31, Chuck Israels wrote:
>The most annoying is that accidentals that
> appeared correctly in the file now have parentheses
> applied to them necessitating a meticulous process
> of removing them - a process that is only slightly
> less harrowing than proof reading the file and entering
> the cautionary accidentals by hand.  Incidentally, my
> plugin is set to show no parentheses even on the
> cautionary accidentals.

I don't use the Cautionary Accidentals plug-in myself, but if you want 
to remove all the parentheses from your accidentals, you can do that 
easily in the JW Change (Beta). Accidentals->Parentheses->Hide and apply 
on the whole document.


Best regards,

Jari Williamsson


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Re: [Finale] ligature in custom music font not working in F2012

2012-09-20 Thread Andrew Moschou
Even if Finale now has Unicode support, this doesn't mean that ligatures
should work. Automatic ligatures would require a certain level of
*OpenType* support. Looks like you'd have to encode them and then access
them directly.


On 19 September 2012 06:23, SN jef chippewa
wrote:

>
> i am designing a font (open type) containing characters for durations
> and to be used for tempo indications and time sigs and am trying to
> get ligatures to work.  for example, when i type 2 flagged sixteenth
> notes directly after one another, 2 beamed 16ths result.
>
> as i understand, this should in fact work, since finale now has
> unicode support?  the ligature i created works in the font design
> programme but not in finale or in iWork's pages.  in both i can type
> the actual character the ligature is placed in and it appears
> correctly, but it doesn't automatically show, as it should.
>
> has anyone worked with ligatures in finale successfully?
>
> (PS i know other fonts exist, but the only one that is decent enough
> to be useful for me is bach, but i find it has limitations and i
> don't like the look of it :-).  anyways, i need straight flags and
> the look of it has to be consistent with my other custom fonts)
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