[Fink-devel] SPAM leakage
Sorry--clicked the wrong radio button during moderation. -- Alexander K. Hansen Associate Research Scientist, Columbia University visiting MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center Levitated Dipole Experiment 175 Albany Street, NW17-219 Cambridge, MA 02139-4213 --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tell us your software development plans! Take this survey and enter to win a one-year sub to SourceForge.net Plus IDC's 2005 look-ahead and a copy of this survey Click here to start! http://www.idcswdc.com/cgi-bin/survey?id=105hix ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] spam
Though, come to think of it, I was wrong about -devel : I'm sure that -users and -beginners have restricted postings, and they don't get spam. Fink-devel is set up for open postings, because it's also the channel to report feedback on unmaintained packages: no need to make users subscribe to the list for that. On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 11:45 PM, Joe Block wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, Jul 12, 2003, at 21:12 US/Eastern, Alexander K. Hansen wrote: The lists only do take postings from subscribers, as far as I can tell (I've been burned before by replying using the wrong account). Hm. I hadn't realized that spammers were subscribing to lists before posting to them, though I suppose I should have realized that it was only a matter of time. jpb - -- Joe Block [EMAIL PROTECTED] The light at the end of the tunnel is the explosives around that little ball of Pu239 - Mike Andrews -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (Darwin) iD8DBQE/ENXSyEXo8W2M9hsRAhA3AJoDY3ss5ki41nM2Uihc5E/hUPsyQQCgnKFt 5EsMvLCrjQhoYmeVC0tbZ1U= =FmUb -END PGP SIGNATURE- Alexander K. Hansen Levitated Dipole Experiment http://www.psfc.mit.edu/LDX --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Parasoft Error proof Web apps, automate testing more. Download eval WebKing and get a free book. www.parasoft.com/bulletproofapps1 ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] spam
I don't think that -beginners is restricted either. I don't subscribe to it, yet I am able to post to it. -- Dave --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Parasoft Error proof Web apps, automate testing more. Download eval WebKing and get a free book. www.parasoft.com/bulletproofapps1 ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] spam
Am Sonntag, 13.07.03 um 16:16 Uhr schrieb David R. Morrison: I don't think that -beginners is restricted either. I don't subscribe to it, yet I am able to post to it. Currently only fink-users is restricted to members-only posts (well and fink-announce / fink-commits are even stronger restricted) Cheers, Max --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Parasoft Error proof Web apps, automate testing more. Download eval WebKing and get a free book. www.parasoft.com/bulletproofapps1 ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] spam
You could make it have restricted postings, and set up an email address that users would send their feedback reports to, that would forward the message to the list. Would that reduce the spam? Or, could you have it moderated for mesages from non-subscribers only? - Nicholas Robbins ___ If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. No use being a damn fool about it. -W.C. Fields ___ On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Alexander Hansen wrote: Though, come to think of it, I was wrong about -devel : I'm sure that -users and -beginners have restricted postings, and they don't get spam. Fink-devel is set up for open postings, because it's also the channel to report feedback on unmaintained packages: no need to make users subscribe to the list for that. --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Parasoft Error proof Web apps, automate testing more. Download eval WebKing and get a free book. www.parasoft.com/bulletproofapps1 ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] spam
I didn't know that--it must have just been -users that I'd been blocked on. On Sunday, July 13, 2003, at 12:20 PM, Max Horn wrote: Am Sonntag, 13.07.03 um 16:16 Uhr schrieb David R. Morrison: I don't think that -beginners is restricted either. I don't subscribe to it, yet I am able to post to it. Currently only fink-users is restricted to members-only posts (well and fink-announce / fink-commits are even stronger restricted) Cheers, Max Alexander K. Hansen Levitated Dipole Experiment http://www.psfc.mit.edu/LDX --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Parasoft Error proof Web apps, automate testing more. Download eval WebKing and get a free book. www.parasoft.com/bulletproofapps1 ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] spam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, Jul 10, 2003, at 05:10 US/Eastern, David wrote: Unfortunately we do not have the resources to moderate the list. This list does become very busy at times and moderating the messages would introduce a huge delay sometimes. I do think that there has been an increase in spam, but I did not see it as significant. It might be, that the spam cumulates now, since we are all busy preparing for the Panther release and it seems unusually quiet on the list. However I have no direct authority to decide this, I am just guessing it will be highly unlikely that we introduce moderation. IMHO moderation also hinders development more than we would benefit form it. How about making the lists only accept postings from members? And to anyone with multiple addresses they post from, if you're a developer you shouldn't find it too hard to subscribe from the other addresses and set them nomail. jpb - -- Joe Block [EMAIL PROTECTED] The difference between theory and practice is larger in practice than in theory. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (Darwin) iD8DBQE/EJoIyEXo8W2M9hsRAqzOAJ9Wtm7G657eLoGQgYiZKrj+iOWS4wCdGHCA pY48Kdtky0t2BoTHoyUrc30= =c7Dw -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Parasoft Error proof Web apps, automate testing more. Download eval WebKing and get a free book. www.parasoft.com/bulletproofapps1 ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
RE: [Fink-devel] spam
The lists only do take postings from subscribers, as far as I can tell (I've been burned before by replying using the wrong account). Alexander K. Hansen Levitated Dipole Experiment http://www.psfc.mit.edu/LDX -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Block Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 7:30 PM To: Fink Developers Subject: Re: [Fink-devel] spam -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 snip How about making the lists only accept postings from members? And to anyone with multiple addresses they post from, if you're a developer you shouldn't find it too hard to subscribe from the other addresses and set them nomail. jpb - -- Joe Block [EMAIL PROTECTED] The difference between theory and practice is larger in practice than in theory. ps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Parasoft Error proof Web apps, automate testing more. Download eval WebKing and get a free book. www.parasoft.com/bulletproofapps1 ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] spam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, Jul 12, 2003, at 21:12 US/Eastern, Alexander K. Hansen wrote: The lists only do take postings from subscribers, as far as I can tell (I've been burned before by replying using the wrong account). Hm. I hadn't realized that spammers were subscribing to lists before posting to them, though I suppose I should have realized that it was only a matter of time. jpb - -- Joe Block [EMAIL PROTECTED] The light at the end of the tunnel is the explosives around that little ball of Pu239 - Mike Andrews -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (Darwin) iD8DBQE/ENXSyEXo8W2M9hsRAhA3AJoDY3ss5ki41nM2Uihc5E/hUPsyQQCgnKFt 5EsMvLCrjQhoYmeVC0tbZ1U= =FmUb -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Parasoft Error proof Web apps, automate testing more. Download eval WebKing and get a free book. www.parasoft.com/bulletproofapps1 ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] spam
i'd like to ask that the list be moderated. i got a digest last week that was PURE spam. nothing from anyone on the list. thanx, JP -- God is dead, now the war shall never end. --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Parasoft Error proof Web apps, automate testing more. Download eval WebKing and get a free book. www.parasoft.com/bulletproofapps ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] spam
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, John Davidorff Pell wrote: i'd like to ask that the list be moderated. i got a digest last week that was PURE spam. nothing from anyone on the list. Yay! Let me just jump on this bandwagon before it even starts to roll, and *really strongly* agree. -- K --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Parasoft Error proof Web apps, automate testing more. Download eval WebKing and get a free book. www.parasoft.com/bulletproofapps ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] spam
On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 10:29 AM, Kaben Nanlohy wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, John Davidorff Pell wrote: i'd like to ask that the list be moderated. i got a digest last week that was PURE spam. nothing from anyone on the list. Yay! Let me just jump on this bandwagon before it even starts to roll, and *really strongly* agree. -- K Unfortunately we do not have the resources to moderate the list. This list does become very busy at times and moderating the messages would introduce a huge delay sometimes. I do think that there has been an increase in spam, but I did not see it as significant. It might be, that the spam cumulates now, since we are all busy preparing for the Panther release and it seems unusually quiet on the list. However I have no direct authority to decide this, I am just guessing it will be highly unlikely that we introduce moderation. IMHO moderation also hinders development more than we would benefit form it. -d -- nee amata wo mitsukete soshite midoto wasrezu domma mi mumega itakutemo soba mi iru mo zutto...zutto...zutto PGP.sig Description: PGP signature
Re: [Fink-devel] Spam on this list...
On Monday, Jun 9, 2003, at 20:32 US/Eastern, Neil Tiffin wrote: I agree with Chris. I use the beta Eudora with Bayesian filering and it works great. 20 to 40 junk mails per day correctly identified with only 3 to 5 per week that get missed and none (so far) incorrectly identified as junk. I have not seen one junk mail actually in the fink list. It seems that as soon as we start talking about spam we get 4 spam mails to the list ;-) What a coincidence Kyle Moffett -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GCM/CS/IT/U d- s++:- a16 C$ UB/L/X/*(+)$ P+++()$ L+++(++) E W++(+) N+++(++) o? K? w---(-) O? M++ V? PS+() PE+(-) Y+ PGP? t+(+++) 5 X R? tv-(--) b(++) DI+ D+ G e-$ h! !r-- !y? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: eBay Great deals on office technology -- on eBay now! Click here: http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Spam on this list...
Yo folks, sadly we are getting more and more spam on this list. I have to wonder if we after all should make it moderated like fink-users, too (that essentially means that only members can post to the list; non-member will have to be approved by the list admin). I am not exactly fond of the idea, but until SF.net puts their spam filters in place (they are working on it, but I have no clue when they will be available), that's the best thing I can do about the spam. What do people think? Can we still accept the spam level we have, or is it too much? It's not that I am eager to do this, but I'd like to at least know what people think. Cheers, Max --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com. ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Spam on this list...
Hi Max. I think it is tolerable for now. Can we encourage SF to hurry up a bit with the spam filters? It would be better to wait for them, if we can... -- Dave --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com. ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Spam on this list...
If my vote counts, mark it down as an emphatic no. Making things more cumbersome for humans is not a good way to deal with spam. I use SpamAssassin on my mailserver and the *only* Fink spam I've ever seen is when someone on the list has hit reply-all on a spam message. Pressure on SF.net is a much better solution. Chris On Monday, June 9, 2003, at 05:25 PM, Max Horn wrote: Yo folks, sadly we are getting more and more spam on this list. I have to wonder if we after all should make it moderated like fink-users, too (that essentially means that only members can post to the list; non-member will have to be approved by the list admin). I am not exactly fond of the idea, but until SF.net puts their spam filters in place (they are working on it, but I have no clue when they will be available), that's the best thing I can do about the spam. What do people think? Can we still accept the spam level we have, or is it too much? It's not that I am eager to do this, but I'd like to at least know what people think. Cheers, Max --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com. ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Spam on this list...
I agree with Chris. I use the beta Eudora with Bayesian filering and it works great. 20 to 40 junk mails per day correctly identified with only 3 to 5 per week that get missed and none (so far) incorrectly identified as junk. I have not seen one junk mail actually in the fink list. Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 6:20 PM -0500 6/9/03, Chris Dolan wrote: If my vote counts, mark it down as an emphatic no. Making things more cumbersome for humans is not a good way to deal with spam. I use SpamAssassin on my mailserver and the *only* Fink spam I've ever seen is when someone on the list has hit reply-all on a spam message. Pressure on SF.net is a much better solution. Chris On Monday, June 9, 2003, at 05:25 PM, Max Horn wrote: Yo folks, sadly we are getting more and more spam on this list. I have to wonder if we after all should make it moderated like fink-users, too (that essentially means that only members can post to the list; non-member will have to be approved by the list admin). I am not exactly fond of the idea, but until SF.net puts their spam filters in place (they are working on it, but I have no clue when they will be available), that's the best thing I can do about the spam. What do people think? Can we still accept the spam level we have, or is it too much? It's not that I am eager to do this, but I'd like to at least know what people think. Cheers, Max --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com. ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
