Re: [Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11

2003-01-09 Thread Alexander Hansen
That's exactly the situation:  /etc/X11 is an actual directory rather
than a symlink.

On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 17:49, Justin Hallett wrote:
 nah, it's prolly just /etc/X11 and just not symlinked
 
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 One more quick question -- why was /usr/X11R6/etc gone? Is this related 
 to threaded/non-threaded issue? If so, how?
 
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[Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11

2003-01-08 Thread Kow K
Boy, it's hard to catch up with the most recent information since 
yesterday ...

With SDK and User packages, system-xfree86-4.2-3 installed, I'm testing 
how well the new X11 works.

I'm having odd things:

1.	/usr/X11R6/etc disappeared
2.	Fonts of KDE apps get jaggy
3.	KDE 3.1 apps (Konqueror, Konsole) can't be used. They sure launch,
	but as soon as I touch their menus, they quit. (and I get
	Xquartz.crash.log from Console)

Is anybody else suffering this?

I changed window mangers, to no avail.


Thanks,

Kow



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Re: [Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11

2003-01-08 Thread Justin Hallett
before installing the apple versions of X11 did you have xfree86-threaded
by chance?

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1. /usr/X11R6/etc disappeared
2. Fonts of KDE apps get jaggy
3. KDE 3.1 apps (Konqueror, Konsole) can't be used. They sure launch,
   but as soon as I touch their menus, they quit. (and I get
   Xquartz.crash.log from Console)

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Re: [Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11

2003-01-08 Thread Kow K

On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 02:17 PM, Justin Hallett wrote:


before installing the apple versions of X11 did you have 
xfree86-threaded
by chance?

Exactly. I was using threaded version of XDarwin (base and rootless). 
Is that related to this issue?

Kow


[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

1.	/usr/X11R6/etc disappeared
2.	Fonts of KDE apps get jaggy
3.	KDE 3.1 apps (Konqueror, Konsole) can't be used. They sure launch,
	but as soon as I touch their menus, they quit. (and I get
	Xquartz.crash.log from Console)


-=[JFH]  Justin F. Hallett Systems Analyst
-=[JFH]  Rendek Communications Inc.
-=[JFH]  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: [Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11

2003-01-08 Thread Justin Hallett
yes, apples is not thread safe and your kde is compiled against a thread
safe lib, one of the reasons i changed back.

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Exactly. I was using threaded version of XDarwin (base and rootless). 
Is that related to this issue?

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Re: [Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11

2003-01-08 Thread Justin Hallett
or recompile kde against apples libs.

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Oh yeah, that makes sense. So, I need to reinstall unthreaded version 
of XDarwin and KDE, right?

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Re: [Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11

2003-01-08 Thread Kow K

On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 02:29 PM, Justin Hallett wrote:


yes, apples is not thread safe and your kde is compiled against a 
thread
safe lib, one of the reasons i changed back.

Oh yeah, that makes sense. So, I need to reinstall unthreaded version 
of XDarwin and KDE, right?

Kow



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Re: [Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11

2003-01-08 Thread Kow K
One more quick question -- why was /usr/X11R6/etc gone? Is this related 
to threaded/non-threaded issue? If so, how?

Thanks,
Kow

On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 02:33 PM, Justin Hallett wrote:

or recompile kde against apples libs.

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Oh yeah, that makes sense. So, I need to reinstall unthreaded version
of XDarwin and KDE, right?


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Re: [Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11

2003-01-08 Thread Justin Hallett
nah, it's prolly just /etc/X11 and just not symlinked

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One more quick question -- why was /usr/X11R6/etc gone? Is this related 
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Re: [Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11

2003-01-08 Thread Josh Kuperman
Which leads to one unanswered question.

If you had threaded apps installed, the force remove of the threaded
xfree86 left a lot of dependent stuff unusable because it was
compiled against the threaded libraries etc. How does one tell what
needs to be redone?

On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 03:33:21PM -0700, Justin Hallett wrote:
 or recompile kde against apples libs.
 
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 Oh yeah, that makes sense. So, I need to reinstall unthreaded version 
 of XDarwin and KDE, right?
 
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Re: [Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11

2003-01-08 Thread Justin Hallett
trail and error that is why system-xfree86 does not replace -threaded.

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If you had threaded apps installed, the force remove of the threaded
xfree86 left a lot of dependent stuff unusable because it was
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needs to be redone?

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Re: [Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11

2003-01-08 Thread Kow K

On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 03:00 PM, Josh Kuperman wrote:


Which leads to one unanswered question.

If you had threaded apps installed, the force remove of the threaded
xfree86 left a lot of dependent stuff unusable because it was
compiled against the threaded libraries etc. How does one tell what
needs to be redone?


Oh your issue was this one! I couldn't follow the thread you started, 
cuz the list has been too hot since yesterday.

Seems like this one is tough ...

Kow



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Re: [Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11

2003-01-08 Thread Justin Hallett
the best thing is for system-xfree86 to check if it's replacing
xfree86-threaded and if get a list from fink of things that depends on x11
then test all those pkgs for the presence of the thread safe symbols using
nm, then offer to continue and recompile them all or to cancel and
continue with xfree86-threaded, but I'm not gonne make that sort of script
:P  I'm just gonna stay with the -threaded version my self.

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 Which leads to one unanswered question.

 If you had threaded apps installed, the force remove of the threaded
 xfree86 left a lot of dependent stuff unusable because it was
 compiled against the threaded libraries etc. How does one tell what
 needs to be redone?

Oh your issue was this one! I couldn't follow the thread you started, 
cuz the list has been too hot since yesterday.

Seems like this one is tough ...

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