breed recognition
This message is from: Danielle Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thank you very much for all your help and I do appreciate it. My comment about the breed recognition wasnt meant as a critism but as a suggestion and I hope I didnt offend anyone. As someone else said the booth was always crowded and the volenteers were very helpful. I did see the other fjords in the breed demo which I thought was wonderful and the kids were awesome! When I mentioned that I wished the other fjords were housed in c barn it for my own love of fjords and I just love to see them !! Also after talking to my trainer who went by the both on saturday, I think she told me that Rosa was at the booth that day. Rosa is a very flashy girl and I bet she caused quite a stir! I know that because of all the critism here lately that some people are a bit upset and I would be too but please do not be offended on what I said because that was not my intention at all.. Danielle
Re: Fjord advertising and breed recognition
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vicky, You may have seen my Howdy on the draft page, or one of them. I was asked to put a picture of him, I was riding him, in when they first set up the site. That was seven or eight years ago! He is dead now after some bad vetting, but it would be nice to know he had reached someone about the beauty of the fjord. Jean G Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946-49 $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Fjord advertising and breed recognition
This message is from: Vicki & Tony Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've followed the discussion on advertising with much interest. I've recently become a Fjord owner after searching for the perfect, versatile horse for 2-3 years. I've been involved with horses through my husband's family for twenty years. I've gone to horse shows with friends, and endurance rides with family for years. I have read Western Horseman, Equus, Horse & Rider, Perfect Horse and Horse Journal for many years. My radar did not find the Fjord until relatively recently. About 1-2 years ago, I asked my vet to examine an Appendix Quarter Horse that had a wonderful disposition. I was worried about his feet, and my vet determined that his feet did, in fact, make this lovely horse unsuitable for my needs. My vet suggested that I should be considering a draft horse since I wanted a horse with a calm and steady temperament that could physically handle rugged terrain in the event that we are able to return to Montana where we lived for 5 years. I'll admit that I was unsure of his advice, since I am intimidated by very large horses. But, I surfed the draft and driving horse web sites and that is where I first noticed the Norwegian Fjord. A short horse that is sturdy enough for me!! Then, I began checking out every Fjord site I could find. I had trouble finding an older Fjord close to home that was for sale. I was also weary from many long drives over the past many months to check out horses of other breeds that were never quite what I was expecting to find. Then, on a trip to Montana last year, I noticed a pasture full of Fjords that hadn't been there on my previous visit. After knocking on a few doors and wandering around, I located the owner and asked permission to go into the pasture to see his horses. He cheerfully agreed after warning me that I would be surrounded by some very big dogs all wanting to be petted. He was right. What a treat!!! They all ran up and stopped together right in front of me and looked at me expectantly as if to say "Well??? You're here --- now what???". I enjoyed petting everybody and they all would have stood there all day to be petted I think. They were BIG, and I was worried about the size. But, they were draft types, and I hadn't yet seen a sporthorse type. I could go on and on (sorry!), but I found my handsome, quiet, level-headed guy. He's 14 hh and is quite sporty! Yet way more sturdy than my husband's Arab who used to be the shortest horse on our place! And the best and biggest feet of anybody here! And when Arabs and my Bashkir Curly get nervous, he just looks at them and says "You're not seriously worried about that for real are you??!!" And when he does get startled, it's relatively brief, and he shakes it off easily. The rest of this crew just can't let things go. They worry. So, needless to say, I'm very pleased. And, I do think that more advertising would bring these wonderful Fjords to the attention of more buyers looking for horses with their special and unique qualities. Vicki Johnston Mims, Florida
Re: breed recognition
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/10/03 2:02:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > From: Danielle Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: new member /breed recognition > > > >. As much as I did enjoy seeing > > the mare and baby at the booth I was surprised that the chosen fjord wasnt > > "flashier" such as a stallion or one of the less known colors like the > > gray. dont get me wrong, I thought Rosita is a beautiful mare but showing > > a "flashier type" would have helped to show off the breed . . . > Hello Danielle, First let me say, you were not alone on this thought. Then let me say having 8 fjords of my own, that I'm just glad SOMEONE was willing to take the time to do this. It is sometimes hard to get people to help out at these events, and though I don't know why this horse was chosen to represent the breed, when they have other fjords to choose from, I do APPRECIATE them doing what they did do. Thank you Sue and Richard, and everyone else involved. It is hard this time of year, with winter coming quickly to New England, to have any fjord looking sleek and flashy - IMHO :) I did notice other breeds did represent, in the show barn, the diversity in sizes and colors, and did think it would have been nice to see some of that with our fjords. Againit takes volunteers and if I'm not willing to take the time to do itI guess I shouldn't criticize those that did. I did have another reply to something Carol Rivoire wrote last week about the Gypsy horses. I saw lots of those there at the Equine Affair, and would like to comment that I saw many being riddenand ridden well :) Though I do agree with most of what she said about that breed. :) Aimee Day Garland Me.
Re: Breed Recognition - Promotion
This message is from: "Arthur Rivoire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - > From: Danielle Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: new member /breed recognition > >. As much as I did enjoy seeing > the mare and baby at the booth I was surprised that the chosen fjord wasnt > "flashier" such as a stallion or one of the less known colors like the > gray. dont get me wrong, I thought Rosita is a beautiful mare but showing > a "flashier type" would have helped to show off the breed . . . ~ Danielle's post was interesting, and I suggest the Promotion Committee, or PEP committee think about it. (what does PEP mean anyway? - Promotion, Education & . . . ? ) As Danielle said, Rosita is a beautiful mare, but she's 23 years old, and she's had a huge number of foals -- If we want to promote Fjords as competition horses, then we should be showcasing competition horses. --- Young Fjords of the highest quality, and in the peak of condition. - The "Knock Your Socks Off" kind of Fjord. Perhaps the PEP committee could have guidlines for Fjord groups doing the bigger equine events -- These expos are Trade Fairs. The purpose is to introduce and sell equine products. And when trying to sell a product, your samples have to be eye-catching, and represent the best you have to offer. This is all part and parcel of BREED PROMOTION. We need more of it, but there has to be a focus on what we want to promote. -- That question could be open to a lot of discussion, but for now, in order to get moving, perhaps everyone would agree that the Fjord should be presented and promoted as a QUALITY HORSE. -- And if there's any question about what that is and what it looks like, just thumb through any of the well-known magazines. Study what other breeds are doing. -- They're showing gleaming, trained, fit horses with a lot of presence! - These are the images and the breeds we're competing against. Can we compete? Kind Regards, Carol Rivoire . .
Re: new member /breed recognition
This message is from: "Warren Stockwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> HERE HERE !!! Should have the judges card pulled!!! Children should be educated not persecuted. Roberta - Original Message - From: "Skeels, Mark A (MED)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 2:30 PM Subject: RE: new member /breed recognition > This message is from: "Skeels, Mark A (MED)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I'm sorry,I don't usually talk up much, but as far as I'm concerned any > Judge that made a remark like that should be immediately, automatically, > disqualified from the event and a new non-biased Judge should be found, > ASAP, hold the show, even if they are a novice judge, better than a > biased one. I don't have much tolerance for bigots or bigotry. > Especially when they belittle young children. > > Or bigoted instructors either, get another one. That's why Parelli is > good, get your work book and go through the training yourself step by > step and don't have to deal with anyone until show time, then show your > horse to the best of your ability and have fun. > > Just my 2 cents. > Mark Skeels > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Danielle > Campbell > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 1:07 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: new member /breed recognition > > > This message is from: Danielle Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > One a different vent has anyone else have to deal with ignorant people > or > worse judges asking if its true that fjords are lazy and stubborn. at a > show one of the kids was asked this by a judge and the poor girl tried > to > defend her pony while the judge laughed! When asked this question by a > snobby instructor I replied laughing! Lazy!! > > Danielle > mother to > > Emma (5 months, daughter) > Gwen (2 year old fjord) > Rosie(mini shetland,sweet old girl who's gwen's best friend) > Sebastain and Rexi(the cats)
RE: new member /breed recognition
This message is from: "Skeels, Mark A (MED)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm sorry,I don't usually talk up much, but as far as I'm concerned any Judge that made a remark like that should be immediately, automatically, disqualified from the event and a new non-biased Judge should be found, ASAP, hold the show, even if they are a novice judge, better than a biased one. I don't have much tolerance for bigots or bigotry. Especially when they belittle young children. Or bigoted instructors either, get another one. That's why Parelli is good, get your work book and go through the training yourself step by step and don't have to deal with anyone until show time, then show your horse to the best of your ability and have fun. Just my 2 cents. Mark Skeels -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Danielle Campbell Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 1:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: new member /breed recognition This message is from: Danielle Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> One a different vent has anyone else have to deal with ignorant people or worse judges asking if its true that fjords are lazy and stubborn. at a show one of the kids was asked this by a judge and the poor girl tried to defend her pony while the judge laughed! When asked this question by a snobby instructor I replied laughing! Lazy!! Danielle mother to Emma (5 months, daughter) Gwen (2 year old fjord) Rosie(mini shetland,sweet old girl who's gwen's best friend) Sebastain and Rexi(the cats)
new member /breed recognition
This message is from: Danielle Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi,My name is Danielle and I am new to the digest, I own a 2 and 1/2 year old red dun Fjord named CNFF Gwendolyn. Her dam is MRF Telka and her sire is Stav Gutten. in regards to breed reconginition in Massachusetts it is beginning to more normal to see a fjord at a show but I still get excited. I also was recently at the equine affaire, and was surprised with all the people I met at the breed demo that owned fjords. I was surprised that there werent any fjord in the breed barn. As much as I did enjoy seeing the mare and baby at the booth I was surprised that the chosen fjord wasnt "flashier" such as a stallion or one of the less known colors like the gray. dont get me wrong, I thought Rosita is a beautiful mare but showing a "flashier type" would have helped to show off the breed because almost everyone who has seen a fjord has seen a brown dun. Show something more Rare and eye catching... One a different vent has anyone else have to deal with ignorant people or worse judges asking if its true that fjords are lazy and stubborn. at a show one of the kids was asked this by a judge and the poor girl tried to defend her pony while the judge laughed! When asked this question by a snobby instructor I replied laughing! Lazy!! I wish! Gwen has so much energy that I sometime dont know what to do with it! As for stubborn, she's as stubborn as any 2 year old but really wants to learn.. thanks for such wonderful answers to all the questions i was afraid to ask Danielle mother to Emma (5 months, daughter) Gwen (2 year old fjord) Rosie(mini shetland,sweet old girl who's gwen's best friend) Sebastain and Rexi(the cats)