Re: [flexbackup-help] Determining Tape Drive Size

2005-04-07 Thread Charlie Brady

On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Dan wrote:

> Problem:
> 
> The system does not provide effectively for incremental backups, and in 
> any case that would require sensible tape management.  I want a full 
> nightly backup on a new tape each night.  However, the data set is too 
> large for the tape, and restoring can be complex.

I don't know how much it will help, but you could take a look at spantape 
- might not be too hard to fit underneath flexbackup:

http://freshmeat.net/projects/spantape/

spantape is a replacement for dd that features the ability to sequentially 
span a stream of bytes across multiple SCSI tapes. It supports both fixed 
and variable block sizes and assures the correct order of tapes during 
data recovery.

Author:

Sebastian Zagrodzki

--
Charlie



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Re: [flexbackup-help] Determining Tape Drive Size

2005-04-07 Thread Simon Matter
> I am writing some [minimal] oss software, after 5 years of just using it.
>
> Background:
>
> Simplified "unmanaged" distributions like e-smith / SME server
> (www.contribs.org) are not supposed to require a full-time admin.
>
> Once setup by someone competent, they require nil maintenance unless
> something breaks.
>
> I am unsatisfied with the backup solutions available.  Hard drives are
> now large, but large tape drives are expensive, especially for the s in
> SME.
>
> I like the DDS2 tape drives that are almost free and plentiful around
> here, as are tapes used once only.
>
>
> Problem:
>
> The system does not provide effectively for incremental backups, and in
> any case that would require sensible tape management.  I want a full
> nightly backup on a new tape each night.  However, the data set is too
> large for the tape, and restoring can be complex.
>
> Solution:
>
> 1) Get flexbackup to prompt for the next tape via email.  I couldn't
> figure this out, and in a full backup every 24 hours you may find a tape
> drive which is permanently in use.
>
> 2) Split the backup into five flexbackup sets, named by the days of the
> week.  Call flexbackup with date +%A as the set name.  Define the sets,
> each small enough to fit on a certain part of the drive.  Automate this
> using bash scripts and du, and a script to detect when the sets are too
> large to fit on the tape
>
> Question:
>
>How can I determine the capacity of a tape in a generic fashion?  I
> want this to run on any e-smith machine.

I think it's almost impossible to determine the capacity of a tape without
disabling hardware compression, which is on by default.
Just yesterday I've built an rpm package of a tool I discovered which may
be exactly what you want. It's called SpanTape and is available here

http://sokrates.mimuw.edu.pl/~sebek/spantape/

and the rpm is here
http://www.invoca.ch/pub/packages/spantape/

It works like dd but outputs to SCSI tapes and lets you span the output to
multiple tapes. I didn't use it yet but it sounds very useful.

Regards,
Simon



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[flexbackup-help] Determining Tape Drive Size

2005-04-07 Thread Dan
I am writing some [minimal] oss software, after 5 years of just using it.
Background:
Simplified "unmanaged" distributions like e-smith / SME server 
(www.contribs.org) are not supposed to require a full-time admin.

Once setup by someone competent, they require nil maintenance unless 
something breaks.

I am unsatisfied with the backup solutions available.  Hard drives are 
now large, but large tape drives are expensive, especially for the s in SME.

I like the DDS2 tape drives that are almost free and plentiful around 
here, as are tapes used once only.

Problem:
The system does not provide effectively for incremental backups, and in 
any case that would require sensible tape management.  I want a full 
nightly backup on a new tape each night.  However, the data set is too 
large for the tape, and restoring can be complex.

Solution:
1) Get flexbackup to prompt for the next tape via email.  I couldn't 
figure this out, and in a full backup every 24 hours you may find a tape 
drive which is permanently in use.

2) Split the backup into five flexbackup sets, named by the days of the 
week.  Call flexbackup with date +%A as the set name.  Define the sets, 
each small enough to fit on a certain part of the drive.  Automate this 
using bash scripts and du, and a script to detect when the sets are too 
large to fit on the tape

Question:
  How can I determine the capacity of a tape in a generic fashion?  I 
want this to run on any e-smith machine.


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