Re: FLUXLIST: from allen bukoff

2005-01-07 Thread Bertrand Clavez
Dear Ann, dear fluxlisters, dear Allen,


First I would like to say that I'm terribly sad that you  (Allen) withdraw
from Fluxus and from fluxlist: what you did, what you do, what your are,
makes you a important figure in the fluxus network, and in Fluxus too.
I know that what you express in your open letter is not a short term
decision, so I won't try to convince you not to do it, even if this news
saddens me deeply, and even if I think that you should stay where you deeply
belong.
But your immense deception somewhat leads you to go to far in
your declarations: for example, you close the site you did for Ben Patterson
(the museum of the sub-conscious):
> memorial website, and numerous other webpages promoting the work of many
> > original Fluxus artists.  I doubt that many of you will notice.   I have
> > also walked away from FLUXLIST-the pioneering Fluxus email discussion
group
> > that I co-founded with Dick and Ken Friedman.  FLUXLIST is another
example
> > of what I am talking about.  Most of you could never even bother to
> > subscribe.  By not participating you have missed a great audience and a
> > wonderful chance to discover and encourage many new Fluxus artists and
to
> > learn about their work.
But as far as i know, it's only since a couple of months that Ben owns a
computer, and he's only beginning to get into the internet stuff, so it's
not because he had no interest in Fluxlist, or in what you were doing that
he was not on Fluxlist.
Otherwise, you're speaking of the lack of openness for new artists from the
FLuxus originators. This is a bit unfair at least regarding Ben Vautier who
always added new people to his flux events: even for the 40 years of Fluxus
he organized last year in Nice, many many many other artists were invited,
people from the second or the third "fluxus generation".It is a bit unfair
too for Emmett Williams who curated the exhibition "Fluxus und die FOlgende"
in Wiesbaden in 2002, with no "historical Fluxus" in it, but many young
artists that were working "under the influence of Fluxus".
However, these new artist are not Fluxus, and they don't pretend to be
Fluxus, and better, they don't care being or not Fluxus or anything else:
they feel close to, they get inspired by, they're developping from, but they
don't want, even in their worsts nightmares, to become Fluxus.
Now, why did you want to be Fluxus?
Why do so many people around the world want to be Fluxus, or to be part of
Fluxus?
This is a good question too.
Are labels as important as that? Being an artist in not so easy, not to
speak about being THIS type of artist (and not another type), so what's the
big thing about bein a Fluxus Artist?
Who is defending what position in this situation?

I would add one or two things about the actual practice of Fluxus artists
today, and what they do as art, since the last, say, twenty years. Are they
still doing event scores? Do they still consider concerts as their major
work? Do they still refuse to create objects, as they used to?
No, of course.
Do they exhibit only together, as a group, or are they mingling with anyone,
in collective exhibition, as any individual artist do?
Guess...
Are they so solid as an entity, as a community, that they have all reached
the same achievments, the same fame, the same level in the art market? What
collective position is to be defended, exactely? You're talking about
"expanding fluxus" as if art was a land to conqueer, as if there were any
hegemony to build out of it, but that's not the point at all: in fact Fluxus
artists never wanted to be in such position, the only one who wanted that
was
Maciunas, and he failed and almost lost "his" group after he had proposed to
do "terrorist acts as art" in '64.
What I mean is that they have all followed their own path through the art
world and through their own practice, I would say as they always did -in so
far as they met "by accident" in the sixties- even though they're still able
to create new fluxus pieces. But their fluxus production have always been a
part of their global artistic production, and only a part of it: as Dick
Higins himself pointed, an
artist that would be only making Fluxus pieces, would be a very poor, if not
a very bad, one. That means also that being a FLuxus artist today has very
little sense, because that means that one has to create following a path
that has been left by those who had initiate it, since many years.
Last, I would recall that they never choosed to be called FLuxus or anything
else, the name was given to them, as you perfectly knows, after Wiesbaden:
Fluxus was to be the name of the publication Maciunas was preparing, not the
name of the people that were to be published in!

Now comes something else, as an art historian with a phd on
fluxus, i find myself a bit concerned with what Ann wrote about fluxus,
archive, and the dust of the art history, and this is also close to what
Allen calls the Fluxus Legacy, which is supposed to have been shaped by the
artists dur

Re: FLUXLIST: from allen bukoff

2005-01-07 Thread ArtnAnts

In a message dated 1/7/05 1:44:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



Well, actually the originators of Fluxus have received his letter as he sent it to all that had an email address.

 Bertrand



oh


Re: FLUXLIST: from allen bukoff

2005-01-07 Thread Bertrand Clavez



Well, actually the originators of Fluxus have 
received his letter as he sent it to all that had an email address.
Bertrand
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 9:33 
  PM
  Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: from allen 
  bukoff
  wow!!! Since Allan is no longer a member of Fluxlist 
  he won't see this reaction to his letter(isn't that always the way) just like 
  the originators of Fluxus won't see his 
letter.


Re: FLUXLIST: from fluxus to weetabix synchronicity

2005-01-07 Thread ArtnAnts

In a message dated 1/7/05 9:06:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Ann is right. Either hijack the word Or, exchange for it "Weetabix" (Sp? See
archives)--then, if Weetabix becomes well known, we can always write the
history as Fluxus begat weetabix. Thats all for now. Right on and write on
Allen!

speaking of weetabix they just started carrying it in the stores around here. I picked up a box-Im glad to see that it's organic! You can't get interrupted while you eat it though-gets too soggy




Re: FLUXLIST: from allen bukoff

2005-01-07 Thread ArtnAnts
wow!!! Since Allan is no longer a member of Fluxlist he won't see this reaction to his letter(isn't that always the way) just like the originators of Fluxus won't see his letter. I just have one thing to say without getting into all the crap about- should Fluxus exist and how, etc. I say this: Why not subscribe to the Buddhist philosophy of it is perfect because it exists. You know--don't worry be happy kind of stuff.
by Madawg


FLUXLIST: Thank you to Ann Kelfsatd for Fuxus/Practice/Unownea

2005-01-07 Thread David-Baptiste Chirot

Dear Friends &  Fellow Workers:
I have just been rereading the letters of Sacco and Vanzetti--they are part of a project/book working on--on the theme across many examples i am working with, the theme of finding liberty and work to do even in the most limiting (in prison awaiting execution after all!) of circumstances . . .  
it is related to this so beautifully presented and , for myself, so accurate, so vitally aware and alive sentence from among al the wonderful, powerful sentences in Ann Kelfstad's magnificent letter:
"Fluxus isn't mean to be an archive, it's meant to be a practice, and such practices cannot be owned."
YES!!--truly in a crude way to put it: "you can't just talk the talk, you got to walk the walk"--
(would you walk a mile for a Camel?--damn straight i have--)
this empohasis on Fluxus as activity, practice, is to me the core of Fluxus--we may have traces, documents, records of events--yet what was truly Fluxus was the event itself--
the way to honor this is to continue to LIVE it--walking along in the world, for "the world as we see it is passing"--ephemeral--to honor this ever moving, changing Flux--
"the basis of poetry is change in the universe"--Basho--
Baudelaire's definition of modernism: the conjcuntion of the eternal with int the ephermeal--
in this way i find the Maciunus link to Mail Art:  The Eteranl Netwrok--
in Mail Art,  the works, communication/community--is freely given--not owned --
part of why i work with found materials mainly--is just such an honoring of the not owned--to uswe refuse is to refuse the sytsems of ownership--for you are making use of what was thrown away, junk--or broekn gfragements, torn from their ctagories within being objects with names and classifications--now they truly are uncanny sites/sights/cites of recognition--
to recognize and honor and also to thank--what it is all around one--"the common thing anonymously about us" --
this is as Ann notes a contnually ongoing practioce:  "Preliminary work goes on incessantly--evry meeting, every street corner, every encounter is material for poetry"--
the simplest activity opens new wqorlds for activity, practice:
"Cezanne noting that by moving his head an inch to either right or left, there was completely new motif--
this movement is never owned, for it keeps  on moving--at once here--and there-
"The Dadaist is one who enjoys life in all its varity and says it is not only here --but there, there (('da, da')"
"No final glossary, then, can be made of words whose intentions are fugitive"--
I had a dream two days ago--in which i was continually being pursued by a presence, a person perhaps--a presence--and each thing i had was taken away and made a possesion by their presence, omnivourous--it wanted every shred of what i ahd, which was next to nothing--it appeared to be much, as my eyes and being were open and brimming continually with so much--yet fleeing this cntuanly being among sites/sights/cites--andf the presence wanting to posesses even the faculty of my way of seeing-
at one point fleegin and al the while observing, hearing, touching, smelling, tasting--this that is--in the Mt Auburn Cemetery in Cambridge, MA--very lovely parts with flower lined walkways among small trees, tombs, vaults--then--suddenly in a vast delta--rice fields--running swift to the ground--the presence searching futiley for me--to find suddenly that one is free--a kind of guerrilla among this continual beauty and danger-
yet it cannot be owned nor put in the archive, this freddom in the practice--
each i can go anywhere making rubBEings of things found, ormake clay impressions to uselater with spray paint and primitvie as it were printing methods (spray paint on impressions, rub on to paper--), copy art of rubBEings--finding objects and letterings in the street---non of this owned--al around one--free--
also i fel free of being called "Fluxus"--i have neve consdiered myself as that, nor any other name--
to me the actions speak louder than the words, because--in the end, one's own wrods may betray one
yet the activity of the practice, eludes all deinfitions, boundaries, any sort of prisons of being--
as foir names--i am the one called david
 
e
 
i have been thinking again of some of Fluxu's relations with Eastern Thought-
>From: Ann Klefstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com
>To: "FLUXLIST@scribble.com" 
>Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: from allen bukoff
>Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 09:52:14 -0600
>
>Allen is right. Fluxus has devolved into the sad spectacle of those who
>originally disdained canonicity desperately trying to ensure the presence of
>their own work in the canon. It's a bit pathetic.
>
>Fluxus, the original entity, has become a collection of objects and texts of
>interest only to academics, such as Hannah Higgins, bless her good
>intentions, whose new PhD will only sift another layer of dust over the
>legacy that she's preserving. Shows of Fluxus artifacts, like the one at the
>Walker Art Center a couple of

FLUXLIST: Tinnitus

2005-01-07 Thread John M. Bennett







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ecneitnes flowed your bootleg shunt erutrot glowed your wallet dash sucof
blazed your tinnitus






John M. Bennett







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FLUXLIST: Re:letter

2005-01-07 Thread Carol Starr
hi allen, 

having read your letter i can only say 
why  are you killing fluxus too? by shutting down all the web sites and
going away from fluxlist you help perpetuate the fluxus is dead situation.

i can see you might be tired of moderating the list but to totally kill
the wole thing seems like throwing out the baby with the bath water.

what do you care about that small group when you know and so stated that
fluxus has and does continue. like you i was stuck by everything fluxus
when i joined the list in 96. my thinking and work about fluxus really
doesn't have anything to do with what official fluxus thinks. i love
doing it and the way i now think about what art is. no group governs
that for any of us.

whatever you do i have enjoyed virtually knowing you and participating
in klonike was a blast.

very bests, carol
xx



Re: FLUXLIST: from allen bukoff

2005-01-07 Thread Carol Starr
hi alen i saw it on fluxlist so it is going through. bests, c xx

Alan Bowman wrote:
> 
> Allen Bukoff has asked me to forward this to all.  I request that you all
>  read it and give it just consideration.
>  Allen, in my opinion, has had more to offer on the 'Fluxus' front than
>  many  in recent years. Wether the "F" word matters or not is one thing,
> Allen
> and  Fluxus Midwest has/have provided a valuable source of fluxus art
>  amusement  over the years, and before it goes...
>  CHECK OUT http://fluxus.org  and it's related sites.
> 
>  ab
> 
> MESSAGE FOLLOWS
> 
> Many are called, but none are now chosen.
> 
> An open letter to 1st and 2nd generation Fluxus
> 
> AYO
> 
> Eric Andersen
> 
> Henry Flynt
> 
> Ken Friedman
> 
> Geoff Hendricks
> 
> Alison Knowles
> 
> Larry Miller
> 
> Yoko Ono
> 
> Nam June Paik
> 
> Ben Patterson
> 
> Carolee Schneemann
> 
> Ben Vautier
> 
> Lamonte Young
> 
> Emmet Williams
> 
> -other names to be added to this list, as I distribute it.
> 
> 6 January 2005
> 
> Dear Fluxus,
> 
> I was very fond of Emily Harvey. I miss her a lot.  I am sorry I will not be
> there to help you honor and remember Emily Harvey tonight.
> 
> Emily Harvey's passing marks a passing for me, too.   I am walking away from
> Fluxus.  It is, unfortunately, unnecessary to announce my departure:  most
> of you don't even know me.  You probably didn't even realize that I am a
> part of Fluxus and that I operate and host a number of websites that have
> promoted Fluxus for the last nine years.  And none of you have ever
> acknowledged that I am, in fact, an active Fluxus artist who has pioneered
> new little directions and forged new sensibilities in Fluxus for more than
> 20 years now.  That is why I am leaving.
> 
> Twenty years ago I fell in love with Fluxus and the monumental creative
> revolutions you all initiated more than 40 years ago.  You changed and
> expanded what creativity and knowing means.  You changed Western culture.
> You changed the world.   You ripped a new hole in the universe.  And you did
> it with simple little ideas, games, objects, performances, and concepts.  I
> will always admire your astonishing accomplishments.  What you did was so
> big that no historian, writer, collector, or curator has ever gotten their
> arms around it satisfactorily.
> 
> But an equally astonishing thing has been going on in Fluxus for the last
> twenty years.  You have been letting Fluxus die.
> 
> At one time you welcomed people to Fluxus. You recruited people to Fluxus.
> I know you have always been a contentious lot, but there was a time when the
> Fluxus door was open, you invited people in, and you made it grow.  You
> embraced a "second wave" of Fluxus artists-e.g., Ken Friedman, Larry Miller.
> You encouraged new Fluxus work and new Fluxus projects. But as far as I can
> tell, this pretty much stopped 20 or more years ago (Friedman's Young Fluxus
> show in 1982 is the last time any of you sponsored a show of "new" Fluxus
> artists).  What happened to you?
> 
> Letting Fluxus die is a terrific and unnecessary shame and I place most of
> the blame on you (the people to whom this letter is addressed).  I blame you
> individually and I blame you collectively.  You have served Fluxus poorly
> during these last 20 years and you are letting Fluxus die.  It didn't have
> to be this way.  For the last 20 years, an increasing number of mostly
> young, bright, and talented people have been showing up and knocking on the
> Fluxus club house door . and almost all of you have either been too deaf or
> self-centered to hear them, or worse, you have continued to wring your hands
> over whether anyone should or could open the door (the issue of who has the
> "authority" to welcome and declare new Fluxus artists has been a convenient
> excuse).  All you really had to do was open the door and show a little
> kindness.  Why has that been so hard for all of you to do?
> 
> During the last 20 years many different people have been "called" to Fluxus.
> I am one of those people.  We learned about Fluxus in one way or another and
> were struck by lightning, had an epiphany.and generally felt we had found a
> place where we really belonged.  We had hoped to find a home in Fluxus.  And
> many of just started doing and being Fluxus in our own way.much like all of
> the original Fluxus folks had their own individual understanding and gifts
> for Fluxus activities.  And one way or another as we have gotten stronger in
> our own Fluxus work, we have stepped forward and tried to share this work
> with you.  Needing to find some acknowledgement and encouragement from the
> people who launched this Fluxus ship. We approached you with respect.  We
> approached you as Fluxus authorities.   We knocked on the door and you did
> not answer. The most that some of you have been able to do for a whole new
> generation of Fluxus artists is hand us some tedious book on Fluxus so we
> could "study up," or you smiled patronizingly a

Re: FLUXLIST: from allen bukoff

2005-01-07 Thread suse
Ann is right. Either hijack the word Or, exchange for it "Weetabix" (Sp? See
archives)--then, if Weetabix becomes well known, we can always write the
history as Fluxus begat weetabix. Thats all for now. Right on and write on
Allen!
- Original Message - 
From: "Ann Klefstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: from allen bukoff


> Allen is right. Fluxus has devolved into the sad spectacle of those who
> originally disdained canonicity desperately trying to ensure the presence
of
> their own work in the canon. It's a bit pathetic.
>
> Fluxus, the original entity, has become a collection of objects and texts
of
> interest only to academics, such as Hannah Higgins, bless her good
> intentions, whose new PhD will only sift another layer of dust over the
> legacy that she's preserving. Shows of Fluxus artifacts, like the one at
the
> Walker Art Center a couple of years ago, are an incredible yawn, heaps of
> paper in vitrines.  They are evidence of the end of the thing.
>
> Fluxus isn't meant to be an archive, it's meant to be a practice, and such
> practices cannot be owned. The current discourse around the idea of
> copyright that has been sparked by the internet illuminates this as well.
> There is a potential in the net for great and radical changes in the
notion
> of the creative practice and its relation to the individual and to the
> culture at large. This potential is intimately related to the
possibilities
> that Fluxus opened.
>
> So why, then, do later practicitioners want a relation to the name Fluxus?
> Why don't we simply call it something else, Flewage, whatever? Because the
> practice known as Fluxus is a legitimate component in what is happening,
and
> it's weird and cumbersome to be forced to ignore it, a kind of
> falsification.
>
>  Plus, to stop using the word is to acknowledge that a group of people who
> once pursued the practice own the word and its attributes, even own the
> practice. It's sort of like being disowned by one's parents. If my father
> insisted that the name "Klefstad" was his, and that all the
characteristics
> that it implied stopped with him, because he owned the word and its
> attributes, and said, "Find your own name," that would be analogous to the
> sad and paranoid behavior of the Fluxus artists I've witnessed, from the
> Anderson/Friedman feud to the notion that the term "Fluxus" was reserved
for
> the chosen few, even if that meant that the practice was doomed.
>
> I think we should just hijack the word.
>
> Ann Klefstad
>
> On 1/7/05 9:27 AM, "Alan Bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Allen Bukoff has asked me to forward this to all.  I request that you
all
> > read it and give it just consideration.
> > Allen, in my opinion, has had more to offer on the 'Fluxus' front than
> > many  in recent years. Wether the "F" word matters or not is one thing,
> > Allen
> > and  Fluxus Midwest has/have provided a valuable source of fluxus art
> > amusement  over the years, and before it goes...
> > CHECK OUT http://fluxus.org  and it's related sites.
> >
> > ab
> >
> > MESSAGE FOLLOWS
> >
> >
> >
> > Many are called, but none are now chosen.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > An open letter to 1st and 2nd generation Fluxus
> >
> >
> >
> > AYO
> >
> > Eric Andersen
> >
> > Henry Flynt
> >
> > Ken Friedman
> >
> > Geoff Hendricks
> >
> > Alison Knowles
> >
> > Larry Miller
> >
> > Yoko Ono
> >
> > Nam June Paik
> >
> > Ben Patterson
> >
> > Carolee Schneemann
> >
> > Ben Vautier
> >
> > Lamonte Young
> >
> > Emmet Williams
> >
> > -other names to be added to this list, as I distribute it.
> >
> >
> >
> > 6 January 2005
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Fluxus,
> >
> >
> >
> > I was very fond of Emily Harvey. I miss her a lot.  I am sorry I will
not be
> > there to help you honor and remember Emily Harvey tonight.
> >
> >
> >
> > Emily Harvey's passing marks a passing for me, too.   I am walking away
from
> > Fluxus.  It is, unfortunately, unnecessary to announce my departure:
most
> > of you don't even know me.  You probably didn't even realize that I am a
> > part of Fluxus and that I operate and host a number of websites that
have
> > promoted Fluxus for the last nine years.  And none of you have ever
> > acknowledged that I am, in fact, an active Fluxus artist who has
pioneered
> > new little directions and forged new sensibilities in Fluxus for more
than
> > 20 years now.  That is why I am leaving.
> >
> >
> >
> > Twenty years ago I fell in love with Fluxus and the monumental creative
> > revolutions you all initiated more than 40 years ago.  You changed and
> > expanded what creativity and knowing means.  You changed Western
culture.
> > You changed the world.   You ripped a new hole in the universe.  And you
did
> > it with simple little ideas, games, objects, performances, and concepts.
I
> > will always admire your astonishing accomplishments.  What you did was
so
> > big that no historian, writer, collector, or curator has ever

Re: FLUXLIST: from allen bukoff

2005-01-07 Thread Ann Klefstad
Allen is right. Fluxus has devolved into the sad spectacle of those who
originally disdained canonicity desperately trying to ensure the presence of
their own work in the canon. It's a bit pathetic.

Fluxus, the original entity, has become a collection of objects and texts of
interest only to academics, such as Hannah Higgins, bless her good
intentions, whose new PhD will only sift another layer of dust over the
legacy that she's preserving. Shows of Fluxus artifacts, like the one at the
Walker Art Center a couple of years ago, are an incredible yawn, heaps of
paper in vitrines.  They are evidence of the end of the thing.

Fluxus isn't meant to be an archive, it's meant to be a practice, and such
practices cannot be owned. The current discourse around the idea of
copyright that has been sparked by the internet illuminates this as well.
There is a potential in the net for great and radical changes in the notion
of the creative practice and its relation to the individual and to the
culture at large. This potential is intimately related to the possibilities
that Fluxus opened.

So why, then, do later practicitioners want a relation to the name Fluxus?
Why don't we simply call it something else, Flewage, whatever? Because the
practice known as Fluxus is a legitimate component in what is happening, and
it's weird and cumbersome to be forced to ignore it, a kind of
falsification. 

 Plus, to stop using the word is to acknowledge that a group of people who
once pursued the practice own the word and its attributes, even own the
practice. It's sort of like being disowned by one's parents. If my father
insisted that the name "Klefstad" was his, and that all the characteristics
that it implied stopped with him, because he owned the word and its
attributes, and said, "Find your own name," that would be analogous to the
sad and paranoid behavior of the Fluxus artists I've witnessed, from the
Anderson/Friedman feud to the notion that the term "Fluxus" was reserved for
the chosen few, even if that meant that the practice was doomed.

I think we should just hijack the word.

Ann Klefstad

On 1/7/05 9:27 AM, "Alan Bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Allen Bukoff has asked me to forward this to all.  I request that you all
> read it and give it just consideration.
> Allen, in my opinion, has had more to offer on the 'Fluxus' front than
> many  in recent years. Wether the "F" word matters or not is one thing,
> Allen
> and  Fluxus Midwest has/have provided a valuable source of fluxus art
> amusement  over the years, and before it goes...
> CHECK OUT http://fluxus.org  and it's related sites.
> 
> ab
> 
> MESSAGE FOLLOWS
> 
> 
> 
> Many are called, but none are now chosen.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> An open letter to 1st and 2nd generation Fluxus
> 
> 
> 
> AYO
> 
> Eric Andersen
> 
> Henry Flynt
> 
> Ken Friedman
> 
> Geoff Hendricks
> 
> Alison Knowles
> 
> Larry Miller
> 
> Yoko Ono
> 
> Nam June Paik
> 
> Ben Patterson
> 
> Carolee Schneemann
> 
> Ben Vautier
> 
> Lamonte Young
> 
> Emmet Williams
> 
> -other names to be added to this list, as I distribute it.
> 
> 
> 
> 6 January 2005
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Fluxus,
> 
> 
> 
> I was very fond of Emily Harvey. I miss her a lot.  I am sorry I will not be
> there to help you honor and remember Emily Harvey tonight.
> 
> 
> 
> Emily Harvey's passing marks a passing for me, too.   I am walking away from
> Fluxus.  It is, unfortunately, unnecessary to announce my departure:  most
> of you don't even know me.  You probably didn't even realize that I am a
> part of Fluxus and that I operate and host a number of websites that have
> promoted Fluxus for the last nine years.  And none of you have ever
> acknowledged that I am, in fact, an active Fluxus artist who has pioneered
> new little directions and forged new sensibilities in Fluxus for more than
> 20 years now.  That is why I am leaving.
> 
> 
> 
> Twenty years ago I fell in love with Fluxus and the monumental creative
> revolutions you all initiated more than 40 years ago.  You changed and
> expanded what creativity and knowing means.  You changed Western culture.
> You changed the world.   You ripped a new hole in the universe.  And you did
> it with simple little ideas, games, objects, performances, and concepts.  I
> will always admire your astonishing accomplishments.  What you did was so
> big that no historian, writer, collector, or curator has ever gotten their
> arms around it satisfactorily.
> 
> 
> 
> But an equally astonishing thing has been going on in Fluxus for the last
> twenty years.  You have been letting Fluxus die.
> 
> 
> 
> At one time you welcomed people to Fluxus. You recruited people to Fluxus.
> I know you have always been a contentious lot, but there was a time when the
> Fluxus door was open, you invited people in, and you made it grow.  You
> embraced a "second wave" of Fluxus artists-e.g., Ken Friedman, Larry Miller.
> You encouraged new Fluxus work and new Fluxus projects. But as far as I can
> tell, this pret

FLUXLIST: FAO Sol!!!

2005-01-07 Thread Alan Bowman
sol, i can't get email through to you!
i have two email addresses for you at keele, which is the correct one?
i appear to have been blacklisted ;)
Remote MTA delta.kis.keele.ac.uk: SMTP diagnostic: 550-Blocked - see 
http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?212.216.176.142\r\n550 mail from 
212.216.176.142 rejected: administrative prohibition (host is blacklisted)
hmmm
sorry for posting this via the list everybody but i have a letter from allen 
bukoff for you all and i can't get that to go to fluxlist!!

bah! rats and phooey!
a

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FLUXLIST: from allen bukoff

2005-01-07 Thread Alan Bowman
Allen Bukoff has asked me to forward this to all.  I request that you all
read it and give it just consideration.
Allen, in my opinion, has had more to offer on the 'Fluxus' front than
many  in recent years. Wether the "F" word matters or not is one thing, 
Allen
and  Fluxus Midwest has/have provided a valuable source of fluxus art
amusement  over the years, and before it goes...
CHECK OUT http://fluxus.org  and it's related sites.

ab
MESSAGE FOLLOWS

Many are called, but none are now chosen.


An open letter to 1st and 2nd generation Fluxus

AYO
Eric Andersen
Henry Flynt
Ken Friedman
Geoff Hendricks
Alison Knowles
Larry Miller
Yoko Ono
Nam June Paik
Ben Patterson
Carolee Schneemann
Ben Vautier
Lamonte Young
Emmet Williams
-other names to be added to this list, as I distribute it.

6 January 2005

Dear Fluxus,

I was very fond of Emily Harvey. I miss her a lot.  I am sorry I will not be
there to help you honor and remember Emily Harvey tonight.

Emily Harvey's passing marks a passing for me, too.   I am walking away from
Fluxus.  It is, unfortunately, unnecessary to announce my departure:  most
of you don't even know me.  You probably didn't even realize that I am a
part of Fluxus and that I operate and host a number of websites that have
promoted Fluxus for the last nine years.  And none of you have ever
acknowledged that I am, in fact, an active Fluxus artist who has pioneered
new little directions and forged new sensibilities in Fluxus for more than
20 years now.  That is why I am leaving.

Twenty years ago I fell in love with Fluxus and the monumental creative
revolutions you all initiated more than 40 years ago.  You changed and
expanded what creativity and knowing means.  You changed Western culture.
You changed the world.   You ripped a new hole in the universe.  And you did
it with simple little ideas, games, objects, performances, and concepts.  I
will always admire your astonishing accomplishments.  What you did was so
big that no historian, writer, collector, or curator has ever gotten their
arms around it satisfactorily.

But an equally astonishing thing has been going on in Fluxus for the last
twenty years.  You have been letting Fluxus die.

At one time you welcomed people to Fluxus. You recruited people to Fluxus.
I know you have always been a contentious lot, but there was a time when the
Fluxus door was open, you invited people in, and you made it grow.  You
embraced a "second wave" of Fluxus artists-e.g., Ken Friedman, Larry Miller.
You encouraged new Fluxus work and new Fluxus projects. But as far as I can
tell, this pretty much stopped 20 or more years ago (Friedman's Young Fluxus
show in 1982 is the last time any of you sponsored a show of "new" Fluxus
artists).  What happened to you?

Letting Fluxus die is a terrific and unnecessary shame and I place most of
the blame on you (the people to whom this letter is addressed).  I blame you
individually and I blame you collectively.  You have served Fluxus poorly
during these last 20 years and you are letting Fluxus die.  It didn't have
to be this way.  For the last 20 years, an increasing number of mostly
young, bright, and talented people have been showing up and knocking on the
Fluxus club house door . and almost all of you have either been too deaf or
self-centered to hear them, or worse, you have continued to wring your hands
over whether anyone should or could open the door (the issue of who has the
"authority" to welcome and declare new Fluxus artists has been a convenient
excuse).  All you really had to do was open the door and show a little
kindness.  Why has that been so hard for all of you to do?

During the last 20 years many different people have been "called" to Fluxus.
I am one of those people.  We learned about Fluxus in one way or another and
were struck by lightning, had an epiphany.and generally felt we had found a
place where we really belonged.  We had hoped to find a home in Fluxus.  And
many of just started doing and being Fluxus in our own way.much like all of
the original Fluxus folks had their own individual understanding and gifts
for Fluxus activities.  And one way or another as we have gotten stronger in
our own Fluxus work, we have stepped forward and tried to share this work
with you.  Needing to find some acknowledgement and encouragement from the
people who launched this Fluxus ship. We approached you with respect.  We
approached you as Fluxus authorities.   We knocked on the door and you did
not answer. The most that some of you have been able to do for a whole new
generation of Fluxus artists is hand us some tedious book on Fluxus so we
could "study up," or you smiled patronizingly and encouraged us to attend
your next exhibition.  You didn't even seem to consider that any of these
new folks could take you and Fluxus some place new and exciting where it
hadn't been before.  And frankly, some of these new Fluxus folks have been
doing more interesting work and more truly Fluxus work than many of you have
bee

FLUXLIST: Tesolc, Humming

2005-01-07 Thread John M. Bennett







Stesolc




mote jerk shirt doubled hciwdnas cash lunk shirt clawing xawseeb knob
steam shirt spelling ytsim nub slack shirt calling rehcnic sang spurt
shirt mewling kcitsyoj hog dump shirt shining paehgnul rash gleam shirt
sprawling sreppohs gum ham shirt dimming stesolc








Humming


log tellub sorta yppolf bundle rat remaerts sorta legduc slacks dram
retsim sorta dotnaf scum sput tibbar sorta ynaeb rafter tub derongi sorta
reklaw hash jumbo rehtid sorta cilorf dander tarb tempo atros copy strohs
flub rekconk sorta trance redluohs bap ratcen sorta toss elgnihs cane
teggun sorta clot nikpan flog reppid sorta towel gnimmuh






John M. Bennett







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Re: FLUXLIST: FFFO Scores

2005-01-07 Thread Allan Revich
FFFO,

I have been to the site as suggested. You are quite right. There is
something there that makes it all worthwhile.

AlllanR
- Original Message - 
From: "Alan Bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 9:05 AM
Subject: FLUXLIST: FFFO Scores


> Dear All,
>
> The Freeformfreakout Organisation is somewhat bemused to announce the
> arrival of yet another page of junk by Bowman.
> By surfing on over to
> http://art.supereva.it/alanfffo.superdada/scores/scores.html you'll find a
> pile of pebbles and neon widgets behind which you'll find 23 (yes!
> t-w-e-n-t-y-t-h-r-e-e!) scores which were found lying around FFFO HQ.
> Some are old, some are newish and others are quite probably somewhere else
> on the site!  You never know, there might even be something there that
makes
> it all worthwhile
>
> Go on, have a look around  (please!)
>
> Yours
>
> Anna Wombal
> FFFO 'Look What We Found Under The Sideboard' Division
>
>
>
>
> visit the
> FREEFORMFREAKOUT ORGANISATION
> online!
> http://freeformfreakoutorganisation.net
>
>
>
>




FLUXLIST: FFFO Scores

2005-01-07 Thread Alan Bowman
Dear All,
The Freeformfreakout Organisation is somewhat bemused to announce the 
arrival of yet another page of junk by Bowman.
By surfing on over to 
http://art.supereva.it/alanfffo.superdada/scores/scores.html you'll find a 
pile of pebbles and neon widgets behind which you'll find 23 (yes! 
t-w-e-n-t-y-t-h-r-e-e!) scores which were found lying around FFFO HQ.
Some are old, some are newish and others are quite probably somewhere else 
on the site!  You never know, there might even be something there that makes 
it all worthwhile

Go on, have a look around  (please!)
Yours
Anna Wombal
FFFO 'Look What We Found Under The Sideboard' Division

visit the
FREEFORMFREAKOUT ORGANISATION
online!
http://freeformfreakoutorganisation.net



Re: FLUXLIST: HNY!! II Dad

2005-01-07 Thread JJ
Keys go to buZ blurR in arkansas to help him fill up
Rust Never Rusts with misc keys...


--- suse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> what about the keys?...
> 
> ***
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writ:
> > > >can I borrow some money? just wondering...
> From: "Alan Bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > ask your mother!
>  
> 
> 
> 




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