Re: [Foundation-l] Assume Good Faith and Don't Bite Newbees

2009-12-09 Thread Liam Wyatt 
Practically speaking, how would such a verification system work? Would it be
a specific OTRS queue (similar to the way we get proof that a photo's
copyright release is correct) or would it be an email to Cary at the WMF
(similar to the way we make sure people with specific tools are over a
certain age)? Or, would it be a different thing altogether (e.g. the
verification process is via the local chapter who "vouches" for the GLAM)?

-Liam [[witty lama]]


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On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Geoffrey Plourde wrote:

> The spirit of the one person per account policy was to prevent people from
> disclaiming responsibility by claiming another person did it. I feel that
> allowing accounts for GLAMs would not violate the intent of the policy, but
> suggest that the account be required to verify, maintain a valid email and
> provide the Foundation with the identities of the authorized users.
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Pharos 
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List 
> Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 4:16:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Assume Good Faith and Don't Bite Newbees
>
> I believe that a "verified" account system for GLAMs specifically
> doing encyclopedic work (not for businesses, etc) would not be too
> difficult to work out, and would be well worth any such effort.
>
> Such systems, though nothing is 100%, have worked quite well for many
> other websites.
>
> Thanks,
> Pharos
>
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Gerard Meijssen
>  wrote:
> > Hoi,
> > When they are blocked like it happened with the Tropenmuseum, I will ask
> the
> > person who did this to reconsider... There has to be a reason for a block
> > and these organisations do what they do and they do it very well. The
> notion
> > that a block on sight is always good is  not reasonable.
> > Thanks,
> > GerardM
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/12/5 John Vandenberg 
> >
> >> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Gerard Meijssen
> >>  wrote:
> >> > Hoi,
> >> > I want to give you two different group / company accounts that I think
> >> are
> >> > valuable..
> >> >
> >> > Tropenmuseum... If you do not know about it, read the Tropenmuseum
> >> article
> >> > on Commons
> >> > Calcey - a company from Sri Lanka has adopted the localisation of the
> >> > Sinhala language. We are really grateful for their work.
> >> >
> >> > There are more great examples of companies, groups that make a
> difference
> >> > ... I would like to know more good examples..
> >>
> >> You say that now, but what happens when they are blocked.
> >>
> >> Or maybe they say something that sounds like a legal threat; are they
> >> speaking for the company?
> >>
> >> --
> >> John Vandenberg
> >>
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Re: [Foundation-l] Status of 2009 Fundraiser Survey

2009-12-09 Thread Gregory Kohs 
Still no reply here, nor on the Meta Wikimedia page?  It's Wednesday.
That was Friday.  Perhaps the "official" response is "no comment", or
maybe Rand Montoya is on vacation?

Gregory Kohs

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Gregory Kohs  wrote:
> I am wondering if someone at the WMF (perhaps specifically Rand
> Montoya) could give us an update on the status of the 2009 Fundraiser
> Survey.  I inquired about this at the appropriate Talk page, but over
> two weeks have passed without any reply:
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Fundraising_2009/Survey&diff=1724334&oldid=1585375
>
> Personally, I applied about four or five hours of my time working on
> the sampling design and questionnaire content and construction for
> this effort.  I realize that it is beyond hope that this will have
> fielded before most of this year's fundraising efforts have been
> executed (which is a shame, considering the "hurry up" timeline that
> was in place back in July 2009), but now I wonder -- will this ever be
> fielded?  My impression is that an inordinate amount of time was
> dedicated to translating the survey into at least a handful of world
> languages, which I advised against, being that I knew it was a huge
> challenge to meet translation and proofreading needs before the annual
> fundraiser commenced.
>
> I hope it is realistic to at least field this survey in the Spring of
> 2010, so that its results may be analyzed and contribute to
> modifications (both tactical and strategic) for the 2010 fundraiser.
>
> Gregory Kohs
>

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Re: [Foundation-l] Assume Good Faith and Don't Bite Newbees

2009-12-09 Thread Geoffrey Plourde 
The spirit of the one person per account policy was to prevent people from 
disclaiming responsibility by claiming another person did it. I feel that 
allowing accounts for GLAMs would not violate the intent of the policy, but 
suggest that the account be required to verify, maintain a valid email and 
provide the Foundation with the identities of the authorized users.   





From: Pharos 
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List 
Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 4:16:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Assume Good Faith and Don't Bite Newbees

I believe that a "verified" account system for GLAMs specifically
doing encyclopedic work (not for businesses, etc) would not be too
difficult to work out, and would be well worth any such effort.

Such systems, though nothing is 100%, have worked quite well for many
other websites.

Thanks,
Pharos

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Gerard Meijssen
 wrote:
> Hoi,
> When they are blocked like it happened with the Tropenmuseum, I will ask the
> person who did this to reconsider... There has to be a reason for a block
> and these organisations do what they do and they do it very well. The notion
> that a block on sight is always good is  not reasonable.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
>
>
> 2009/12/5 John Vandenberg 
>
>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Gerard Meijssen
>>  wrote:
>> > Hoi,
>> > I want to give you two different group / company accounts that I think
>> are
>> > valuable..
>> >
>> > Tropenmuseum... If you do not know about it, read the Tropenmuseum
>> article
>> > on Commons
>> > Calcey - a company from Sri Lanka has adopted the localisation of the
>> > Sinhala language. We are really grateful for their work.
>> >
>> > There are more great examples of companies, groups that make a difference
>> > ... I would like to know more good examples..
>>
>> You say that now, but what happens when they are blocked.
>>
>> Or maybe they say something that sounds like a legal threat; are they
>> speaking for the company?
>>
>> --
>> John Vandenberg
>>
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Re: [Foundation-l] Assume Good Faith and Don't Bite Newbees

2009-12-09 Thread Pharos 
I believe that a "verified" account system for GLAMs specifically
doing encyclopedic work (not for businesses, etc) would not be too
difficult to work out, and would be well worth any such effort.

Such systems, though nothing is 100%, have worked quite well for many
other websites.

Thanks,
Pharos

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Gerard Meijssen
 wrote:
> Hoi,
> When they are blocked like it happened with the Tropenmuseum, I will ask the
> person who did this to reconsider... There has to be a reason for a block
> and these organisations do what they do and they do it very well. The notion
> that a block on sight is always good is  not reasonable.
> Thanks,
>     GerardM
>
>
>
> 2009/12/5 John Vandenberg 
>
>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Gerard Meijssen
>>  wrote:
>> > Hoi,
>> > I want to give you two different group / company accounts that I think
>> are
>> > valuable..
>> >
>> > Tropenmuseum... If you do not know about it, read the Tropenmuseum
>> article
>> > on Commons
>> > Calcey - a company from Sri Lanka has adopted the localisation of the
>> > Sinhala language. We are really grateful for their work.
>> >
>> > There are more great examples of companies, groups that make a difference
>> > ... I would like to know more good examples..
>>
>> You say that now, but what happens when they are blocked.
>>
>> Or maybe they say something that sounds like a legal threat; are they
>> speaking for the company?
>>
>> --
>> John Vandenberg
>>
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Re: [Foundation-l] Office hours next Friday, December 11

2009-12-09 Thread Cary Bass 
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I hope my inability to send these out without one single mistake is
amply entertaining.  The day is Friday (as indicated in the subject and
the second paragraph), not Thursday (as carelessly left in the first line).

Cary

Cary Bass wrote:
> Hello all!
> 
> Next Thursday's office hours will feature Frank Schulenberg, the
> Wikimedia Foundation's Head of Public Outreach.  If you don't know Frank
> you can learn all about him at
> .
> 
> Office hours on Friday are from 2330 to 0030 UTC (3:30 PM - 4:30 PM PST).
> 
> If you do not have an IRC client, there are two ways you can come chat
> using a web browser:  First is using the Wikizine chat gateway at
> .  Type a
> nickname, select irc.freenode.net from the top menu and
> #wikimedia-office from the following menu, then login to join.
> 
> Also, you can access Freenode by going to http://webchat.freenode.net/,
> typing in the nickname of your choice and choosing wikimedia-office as
> the channel.   You may be prompted to click through a security warning.
> It should be all right.
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> Please feel free to forward (and translate!) this email to any other
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[Foundation-l] Office hours next Friday, December 11

2009-12-09 Thread Cary Bass 
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Hello all!

Next Thursday's office hours will feature Frank Schulenberg, the
Wikimedia Foundation's Head of Public Outreach.  If you don't know Frank
you can learn all about him at
.

Office hours on Friday are from 2330 to 0030 UTC (3:30 PM - 4:30 PM PST).

If you do not have an IRC client, there are two ways you can come chat
using a web browser:  First is using the Wikizine chat gateway at
.  Type a
nickname, select irc.freenode.net from the top menu and
#wikimedia-office from the following menu, then login to join.

Also, you can access Freenode by going to http://webchat.freenode.net/,
typing in the nickname of your choice and choosing wikimedia-office as
the channel.   You may be prompted to click through a security warning.
It should be all right.

Please feel free to forward (and translate!) this email to any other
relevant email lists you happen to be on.

- --
Cary Bass
Volunteer Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation

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