RE: upload timeout errors

2001-09-26 Thread Airhart, Chad M. 

We have tried uploads with Foxwatch logged in monitoring processor and RAM
usage and we have tried it with API shutdown and traffic minimized as much
as possible.  Occassionally we may get one or two stations to upload but
never a complete upload.  We have 5 CP40 pairs (4 A's and 1 B), an AB
Station and two Modbus modules.  We have upgraded our RAM on our host AW to
256 MB and our hard drives to 9 GB based on Foxboro's recommendations, all
to no avail.  I assume Foxboro is still working on the problem.  We haven't
really heard from them since the hard drive upgrade a few weeks ago.

Chad Airhart
Senior Instrument, Electrical & Control Systems Engineer
Equistar Chemicals, LP.
Victoria, TX
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> -Original Message-
> From: Johnson, Alex (Foxboro) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:06 AM
> To:   Foxboro DCS Mail List
> Subject:  RE: upload timeout errors
> 
> To be honest, I'm not sure. 
> 
> I know it varies with the Control Station type (CP-10/30/40/60, CmP-15/30,
> AW-I, microI/A, etc)
> 
> If I was dealing with this issue, I would compare the performance across
> the
> stations while uploading and see if I could determine that.
> 
> I also suspect that it is linked to the amount of broadcast traffic in the
> plant. This is harder to analyze without FoxWatch, but it should be
> examined.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Alex Johnson
> 10707 Haddington
> Houston, TX 77043
> 713.722.2859 (office)
> 713.722.2700 (switchboard)
> 713.932.0222 (fax)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> 
> 
>   -Original Message-
>   From:   Sascha Wildner [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   Sent:   Tuesday, September 25, 2001 9:26 AM
>   To: Foxboro DCS Mail List
>   Subject:AW: upload timeout errors
> 
>   Where's the critical range?
> 
>   Regards,
>   Sascha
> 
> 
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> Johnson,
>   Alex (Foxboro)
>   Gesendet: Montag, 24. September 2001 20:34
>   An: Foxboro DCS Mail List
>   Betreff: RE: upload timeout errors
> 
> 
>   It's always a good thing to check you system load before and during
> an
>   upload. Look at the idle time and the free RAM.
> 
> 
>   Regards,
> 
> 
>   Alex Johnson
>   10707 Haddington
>   Houston, TX 77043
>   713.722.2859 (office)
>   713.722.2700 (switchboard)
>   713.932.0222 (fax)
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
>   -Original Message-
>   From:   Navarro, Douglas [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   Sent:   Monday, September 24, 2001 10:44 AM
>   To: Foxboro
>   Subject:upload timeout errors
> 
>   List members,
> 
>   We have been experiencing some problems with our I/A system
> when we
>   try to upload
>from the CPs. These are the type of error message we get
> 
>   Object Mgr omread() timeout
>   Error on parameter FKCP02_ECB:FK2B05.BADRNG
>   --- UPLOAD ABORTED --- at compound/block FKCP02_ECB:FK2B05
> 
>   Object Mgr omread() timeout
>   Error on parameter SATEL1_STA:STATION.AUTCKP
>   --- UPLOAD ABORTED --- at compound/block SATEL1_STA:STATION
> 
>   This error occurs almost all the time and with any parameter
> of any
>   variable.
>   I would appreciate if anybody has any insight into this kind
> of
>   problem.
> 
>   Regards,
> 
>   Douglas Navarro
>   PDVSA
>   Tel. 58-269-2406955
>   Fax 58-269-2405240
>   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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RE: upload timeout errors

2001-09-25 Thread Johnson, Alex (Foxboro) 

To be honest, I'm not sure. 

I know it varies with the Control Station type (CP-10/30/40/60, CmP-15/30,
AW-I, microI/A, etc)

If I was dealing with this issue, I would compare the performance across the
stations while uploading and see if I could determine that.

I also suspect that it is linked to the amount of broadcast traffic in the
plant. This is harder to analyze without FoxWatch, but it should be
examined.


Regards,


Alex Johnson
10707 Haddington
Houston, TX 77043
713.722.2859 (office)
713.722.2700 (switchboard)
713.932.0222 (fax)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 


-Original Message-
From:   Sascha Wildner [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, September 25, 2001 9:26 AM
To: Foxboro DCS Mail List
Subject:AW: upload timeout errors

Where's the critical range?

Regards,
Sascha


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von
Johnson,
Alex (Foxboro)
Gesendet: Montag, 24. September 2001 20:34
An: Foxboro DCS Mail List
        Betreff: RE: upload timeout errors


It's always a good thing to check you system load before and during
an
upload. Look at the idle time and the free RAM.


Regards,


Alex Johnson
10707 Haddington
Houston, TX 77043
713.722.2859 (office)
713.722.2700 (switchboard)
713.932.0222 (fax)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


-Original Message-
From:   Navarro, Douglas [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, September 24, 2001 10:44 AM
To: Foxboro
Subject:upload timeout errors

List members,

We have been experiencing some problems with our I/A system
when we
try to upload
 from the CPs. These are the type of error message we get

Object Mgr omread() timeout
Error on parameter FKCP02_ECB:FK2B05.BADRNG
--- UPLOAD ABORTED --- at compound/block FKCP02_ECB:FK2B05

Object Mgr omread() timeout
Error on parameter SATEL1_STA:STATION.AUTCKP
--- UPLOAD ABORTED --- at compound/block SATEL1_STA:STATION

This error occurs almost all the time and with any parameter
of any
variable.
I would appreciate if anybody has any insight into this kind
of
problem.

Regards,

Douglas Navarro
PDVSA
Tel. 58-269-2406955
Fax 58-269-2405240
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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RE: upload timeout errors

2001-09-24 Thread Bruley, Peter 

Gentlemen:

I have seen this many times. I believe this happens when CP's are
too loaded. Usually happens on older equipment (ie/ CP10's) but I have seen
it on newer processors that are over worked. (ie/ you are seeing OM & BPC
overruns).

Here are two things to try:

1)  Upload 1 compound at a time (either from within ICC or by creating
an ICC driver-task script).
2)  Wait for the process to be shutdown (CP's are less worked and
network traffic is lower) Not only will you get your upload but this
actually has an added bonus as the operator settable parameters are in a
state where the plant has been "shut-down properly". Thus if you ever have
to do a loadall to the CP the settable parameters are in a quiescent state
and you don't have valves/dampers/etc jumping to some "normal operating
position"

Peace

Peter

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From:  Airhart, Chad M.
Sent:  Monday, September 24, 2001 1:55 PM
To:  'Foxboro DCS Mail List'
Subject:  RE: upload timeout errors

We have had this same problem for over 2 years now.  Various field
service
people and TAC have looked at it and been unable to determine the
root of
the problem.  We have upgraded our RAM, upgraded our hard drives all
to no
avail.  So far Foxboro has been little to no help in resolving the
problem.
It has been extremely frustrating.

Chad Airhart
Senior Instrument, Electrical & Control Systems Engineer
Equistar Chemicals, LP.
Victoria, TX
Wk. (361) 572-2568
Pgr. (361) 270-2214 alpha messaging at  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fx. (361) 572-2541

> -Original Message-
> From: Navarro, Douglas [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 10:44 AM
> To:   Foxboro
> Subject:  upload timeout errors
> 
> List members,
> 
> We have been experiencing some problems with our I/A system when
we try to
> upload
>  from the CPs. These are the type of error message we get
> 
> Object Mgr omread() timeout
> Error on parameter FKCP02_ECB:FK2B05.BADRNG
> --- UPLOAD ABORTED --- at compound/block FKCP02_ECB:FK2B05
> 
> Object Mgr omread() timeout
> Error on parameter SATEL1_STA:STATION.AUTCKP
> --- UPLOAD ABORTED --- at compound/block SATEL1_STA:STATION
> 
> This error occurs almost all the time and with any parameter of
any
> variable.
> I would appreciate if anybody has any insight into this kind of
problem.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Douglas Navarro
> PDVSA
> Tel. 58-269-2406955
> Fax 58-269-2405240
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
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RE: upload timeout errors

2001-09-24 Thread Airhart, Chad M. 

We have had this same problem for over 2 years now.  Various field service
people and TAC have looked at it and been unable to determine the root of
the problem.  We have upgraded our RAM, upgraded our hard drives all to no
avail.  So far Foxboro has been little to no help in resolving the problem.
It has been extremely frustrating.

Chad Airhart
Senior Instrument, Electrical & Control Systems Engineer
Equistar Chemicals, LP.
Victoria, TX
Wk. (361) 572-2568
Pgr. (361) 270-2214 alpha messaging at  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fx. (361) 572-2541

> -Original Message-
> From: Navarro, Douglas [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 10:44 AM
> To:   Foxboro
> Subject:  upload timeout errors
> 
> List members,
> 
> We have been experiencing some problems with our I/A system when we try to
> upload
>  from the CPs. These are the type of error message we get
> 
> Object Mgr omread() timeout
> Error on parameter FKCP02_ECB:FK2B05.BADRNG
> --- UPLOAD ABORTED --- at compound/block FKCP02_ECB:FK2B05
> 
> Object Mgr omread() timeout
> Error on parameter SATEL1_STA:STATION.AUTCKP
> --- UPLOAD ABORTED --- at compound/block SATEL1_STA:STATION
> 
> This error occurs almost all the time and with any parameter of any
> variable.
> I would appreciate if anybody has any insight into this kind of problem.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Douglas Navarro
> PDVSA
> Tel. 58-269-2406955
> Fax 58-269-2405240
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
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RE: upload timeout errors

2001-09-24 Thread Johnson, Alex (Foxboro) 

It's always a good thing to check you system load before and during an
upload. Look at the idle time and the free RAM.


Regards,


Alex Johnson
10707 Haddington
Houston, TX 77043
713.722.2859 (office)
713.722.2700 (switchboard)
713.932.0222 (fax)
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-Original Message-
From:   Navarro, Douglas [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, September 24, 2001 10:44 AM
To: Foxboro
Subject:upload timeout errors

List members,

We have been experiencing some problems with our I/A system when we
try to upload
 from the CPs. These are the type of error message we get

Object Mgr omread() timeout
Error on parameter FKCP02_ECB:FK2B05.BADRNG
--- UPLOAD ABORTED --- at compound/block FKCP02_ECB:FK2B05

Object Mgr omread() timeout
Error on parameter SATEL1_STA:STATION.AUTCKP
--- UPLOAD ABORTED --- at compound/block SATEL1_STA:STATION

This error occurs almost all the time and with any parameter of any
variable.
I would appreciate if anybody has any insight into this kind of
problem.

Regards,

Douglas Navarro
PDVSA
Tel. 58-269-2406955
Fax 58-269-2405240
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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