Re: Fit or fitted
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 21:54:42 + From: Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.com Hm... Bastard? How so? Because the Norman French tended to rape and pillage the native Saxons, rather than marry them in church. David *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys Limited, which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com. Invensys Limited is owned by the Schneider-Electric Group. You may contact Invensys Limited on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Fit or fitted?
Bastard in this sense: The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary. [James Nicoll, in rec.arts.sf-lovers, 1990. Mr Nicoll is a Canadian freelance games and science-fiction reviewer.] -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim Pann Sent: May-30-14 5:55 PM To: Helen Borrie; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Fit or fitted? Hm... Bastard? How so? Tim From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Helen Borrie [hele...@iinet.net.au] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 2:47 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Fit or fitted? At 12:28 p.m. 30/05/2014, Writer wrote: It's not a verb in this case; it's a predicate adjective. Nadine From: Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com To: Stephen O'Brien sobr...@innovmetric.com; Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.com) framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:42:49 AM Subject: Re: Fit or fitted? Per Betty Azar, in American English, the present, simple past, and past tense of the verb to fit are all fit. Actually, it's not. The example from the OP used fit as a transitive verb and fitted was applied as the past participle. A pedagogue would rule this usage illegal but English, the bastard language of the world, grows this way. Usage of fit as a transitive verb has become widespread in my lifetime, although I'd have got the red crayon if I used it in a high school composition. Things get muddy when we try to use fit in the passive voice, which is the usage in question here. Intransitive verbs can't be used in passive voice so what do we do? We can try to borrow the past historic of the intransitive verb, which is fit or we can pursue the formation of a participle by regularising it. The members iof the Olympic team were fit for their new uniforms doesn't work. The members of the Olympic team were fitted for their new uniforms seems to. My call would be that the regularising rule applies here. If the OP MUST use passive voice (dubious tech writing practice at best) then make fitted the participle, rather than awkwardly stealing the past historic from the transitive verb. It fits better (sic: intransitive!) with other forward formations that are already in use. Helen ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as tp...@telecomsys.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tpann%40telecomsys.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jeff.coatsworth%40jonasclub.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Fit or fitted?
On 2014-May-29 8:28 PM, Writer wrote: It's not a verb in this case; it's a predicate adjective. Nadine Exactly. No one sells fit sheets :-) s. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Fit or fitted?
At 12:28 p.m. 30/05/2014, Writer wrote: It's not a verb in this case; it's a predicate adjective. Nadine From: Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com To: Stephen O'Brien sobr...@innovmetric.com; Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.com) framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:42:49 AM Subject: Re: Fit or fitted? Per Betty Azar, in American English, the present, simple past, and past tense of the verb to fit are all fit. Actually, it's not. The example from the OP used fit as a transitive verb and fitted was applied as the past participle. A pedagogue would rule this usage illegal but English, the bastard language of the world, grows this way. Usage of fit as a transitive verb has become widespread in my lifetime, although I'd have got the red crayon if I used it in a high school composition. Things get muddy when we try to use fit in the passive voice, which is the usage in question here. Intransitive verbs can't be used in passive voice so what do we do? We can try to borrow the past historic of the intransitive verb, which is fit or we can pursue the formation of a participle by regularising it. The members iof the Olympic team were fit for their new uniforms doesn't work. The members of the Olympic team were fitted for their new uniforms seems to. My call would be that the regularising rule applies here. If the OP MUST use passive voice (dubious tech writing practice at best) then make fitted the participle, rather than awkwardly stealing the past historic from the transitive verb. It fits better (sic: intransitive!) with other forward formations that are already in use. Helen ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Fit or fitted?
It's passive voice. On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Writer generic...@yahoo.ca wrote: It's not a verb in this case; it's a predicate adjective. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Fit or fitted?
In The bed has fitted sheets, fitted is an adjective. In The sheets are fitted to the bed, it's passive voice. On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 8:38 AM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: On 2014-May-29 8:28 PM, Writer wrote: It's not a verb in this case; it's a predicate adjective. Nadine Exactly. No one sells fit sheets :-) ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Fit or fitted?
Hm... Bastard? How so? Tim From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Helen Borrie [hele...@iinet.net.au] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 2:47 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Fit or fitted? At 12:28 p.m. 30/05/2014, Writer wrote: It's not a verb in this case; it's a predicate adjective. Nadine From: Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com To: Stephen O'Brien sobr...@innovmetric.com; Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.com) framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:42:49 AM Subject: Re: Fit or fitted? Per Betty Azar, in American English, the present, simple past, and past tense of the verb to fit are all fit. Actually, it's not. The example from the OP used fit as a transitive verb and fitted was applied as the past participle. A pedagogue would rule this usage illegal but English, the bastard language of the world, grows this way. Usage of fit as a transitive verb has become widespread in my lifetime, although I'd have got the red crayon if I used it in a high school composition. Things get muddy when we try to use fit in the passive voice, which is the usage in question here. Intransitive verbs can't be used in passive voice so what do we do? We can try to borrow the past historic of the intransitive verb, which is fit or we can pursue the formation of a participle by regularising it. The members iof the Olympic team were fit for their new uniforms doesn't work. The members of the Olympic team were fitted for their new uniforms seems to. My call would be that the regularising rule applies here. If the OP MUST use passive voice (dubious tech writing practice at best) then make fitted the participle, rather than awkwardly stealing the past historic from the transitive verb. It fits better (sic: intransitive!) with other forward formations that are already in use. Helen ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as tp...@telecomsys.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tpann%40telecomsys.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Fit or fitted?
The Chicago Manual of Style prefers fitted in this case: This verb is undergoing a shift. It has traditionally been conjugated fit–fitted–fitted, but today fit–fit–fit is prevalent in American English {when she tried on the dress, it fit quite well}. In the passive voice, however, fitted is still normal {the horse was fitted with a new harness}. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Fit or fitted?
Per Betty Azar, in American English, the present, simple past, and past tense of the verb to fit are all fit. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Fit or fitted?
It's not a verb in this case; it's a predicate adjective. Nadine From: Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com To: Stephen O'Brien sobr...@innovmetric.com; Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.com) framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:42:49 AM Subject: Re: Fit or fitted? Per Betty Azar, in American English, the present, simple past, and past tense of the verb to fit are all fit. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Fit or fitted?
Hi, We cannot undecided : Typically, curves are fit/fitted to the surface. Any help is appreciated. Stephen O'BRIEN Coordonnateur à la documentation et rédacteur technique senior | Documentation Coordinator and Senior Technical Writer InnovMetric Logiciels | Software sobr...@innovmetric.commailto:sobr...@innovmetric.com T (1) 418.688.2061 F (1) 418.688.3001 [cid:image001.gif@01CF7A84.1730A750]http://www.innovmetric.com/ AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALITÉ/CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: Ce message peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels appartenant exclusivement à InnovMetric Logiciels inc. ou à ses filiales. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire indiqué dans ce message (ou responsable de livrer ce message à la personne indiquée ou prévue) ou si vous pensez que ce message vous a été adressé par erreur, vous ne pouvez pas utiliser ou reproduire ce message, ni le livrer à quelqu'un d'autre. Dans ce cas, veuillez le retourner à l'expéditeur et le détruire. Proprietary confidential information belonging to InnovMetric Software Inc. and its affiliates may be contained in this message. If you are not a recipient indicated or intended in this message (or responsible for delivering this message to such a person), or you think for any reason that this message may have been addressed to you by mistake, you may not use or copy this message, or deliver it to anyone else. In which case, notify the sender and destroy the e-mail. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Fit or fitted?
fit From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stephen O'Brien Sent: May-28-14 2:50 PM To: Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.com) Subject: Fit or fitted? Hi, We cannot undecided : Typically, curves are fit/fitted to the surface. Any help is appreciated. Stephen O'BRIEN Coordonnateur à la documentation et rédacteur technique senior | Documentation Coordinator and Senior Technical Writer InnovMetric Logiciels | Software sobr...@innovmetric.commailto:sobr...@innovmetric.com T (1) 418.688.2061 F (1) 418.688.3001 [cid:image001.gif@01CF7A85.7F1BA170]http://www.innovmetric.com/ AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALITÉ/CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: Ce message peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels appartenant exclusivement à InnovMetric Logiciels inc. ou à ses filiales. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire indiqué dans ce message (ou responsable de livrer ce message à la personne indiquée ou prévue) ou si vous pensez que ce message vous a été adressé par erreur, vous ne pouvez pas utiliser ou reproduire ce message, ni le livrer à quelqu'un d'autre. Dans ce cas, veuillez le retourner à l'expéditeur et le détruire. Proprietary confidential information belonging to InnovMetric Software Inc. and its affiliates may be contained in this message. If you are not a recipient indicated or intended in this message (or responsible for delivering this message to such a person), or you think for any reason that this message may have been addressed to you by mistake, you may not use or copy this message, or deliver it to anyone else. In which case, notify the sender and destroy the e-mail. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Fit or fitted?
Merriam-Webster seems to accept fitted. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fitted Nadine From: Stephen O'Brien sobr...@innovmetric.com To: Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.com) framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 2:50:01 PM Subject: Fit or fitted? Hi, We cannot undecided : Typically, curves are fit/fitted to the surface. Any help is appreciated. Stephen O'BRIEN Coordonnateur à la documentation et rédacteur technique senior | Documentation Coordinator and Senior Technical Writer InnovMetric Logiciels | Software sobr...@innovmetric.com T (1) 418.688.2061 F (1) 418.688.3001 AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALITÉ/CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: Ce message peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels appartenant exclusivement à InnovMetric Logiciels inc. ou à ses filiales. Si vous n’êtes pas le destinataire indiqué dans ce message (ou responsable de livrer ce message à la personne indiquée ou prévue) ou si vous pensez que ce message vous a été adressé par erreur, vous ne pouvez pas utiliser ou reproduire ce message, ni le livrer à quelqu’un d’autre. Dans ce cas, veuillez le retourner à l’expéditeur et le détruire. Proprietary confidential information belonging to InnovMetric Software Inc. and its affiliates may be contained in this message. If you are not a recipient indicated or intended in this message (or responsible for delivering this message to such a person), or you think for any reason that this message may have been addressed to you by mistake, you may not use or copy this message, or deliver it to anyone else. In which case, notify the sender and destroy the e-mail. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Fit or fitted?
Hi, Yes, and this is the standard answer from the group as well. Thanks for the many answers! Stephen O'BRIEN Coordonnateur à la documentation et rédacteur technique senior | Documentation Coordinator and Senior Technical Writer InnovMetric Logiciels | Software T (1) 418.688.2061 De : Doris Evans-McCarthy [mailto:doris.evans-mccar...@riverbed.com] Envoyé : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:12 PM À : Writer; Stephen O'Brien; Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.com) Objet : RE: Fit or fitted? Yes, “fit” is generally American usage. “Fitted” is used globally. D From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:06 PM To: Stephen O'Brien; Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com) Subject: Re: Fit or fitted? Merriam-Webster seems to accept fitted. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fitted Nadine From: Stephen O'Brien sobr...@innovmetric.commailto:sobr...@innovmetric.com To: Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com) framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 2:50:01 PM Subject: Fit or fitted? Hi, We cannot undecided : Typically, curves are fit/fitted to the surface. Any help is appreciated. Stephen O'BRIEN Coordonnateur à la documentation et rédacteur technique senior | Documentation Coordinator and Senior Technical Writer InnovMetric Logiciels | Software sobr...@innovmetric.commailto:sobr...@innovmetric.com T (1) 418.688.2061 F (1) 418.688.3001 [cid:image001.gif@01CF7A88.3499A860]http://www.innovmetric.com/ AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALITÉ/CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: Ce message peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels appartenant exclusivement à InnovMetric Logiciels inc. ou à ses filiales. Si vous n’êtes pas le destinataire indiqué dans ce message (ou responsable de livrer ce message à la personne indiquée ou prévue) ou si vous pensez que ce message vous a été adressé par erreur, vous ne pouvez pas utiliser ou reproduire ce message, ni le livrer à quelqu’un d’autre. Dans ce cas, veuillez le retourner à l’expéditeur et le détruire. Proprietary confidential information belonging to InnovMetric Software Inc. and its affiliates may be contained in this message. If you are not a recipient indicated or intended in this message (or responsible for delivering this message to such a person), or you think for any reason that this message may have been addressed to you by mistake, you may not use or copy this message, or deliver it to anyone else. In which case, notify the sender and destroy the e-mail. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as generic...@yahoo.ca.mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com.mailto:listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Fit or fitted?
I would go with fitted. Here's the definition: shaped for a precise fit Jaime From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stephen O'Brien Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 2:50 PM To: Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.com) Subject: Fit or fitted? Hi, We cannot undecided : Typically, curves are fit/fitted to the surface. Any help is appreciated. Stephen O'BRIEN Coordonnateur à la documentation et rédacteur technique senior | Documentation Coordinator and Senior Technical Writer InnovMetric Logiciels | Software sobr...@innovmetric.commailto:sobr...@innovmetric.com T (1) 418.688.2061 F (1) 418.688.3001 [cid:image001.gif@01CF7A85.2EEB5F10]http://www.innovmetric.com/ AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALITÉ/CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: Ce message peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels appartenant exclusivement à InnovMetric Logiciels inc. ou à ses filiales. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire indiqué dans ce message (ou responsable de livrer ce message à la personne indiquée ou prévue) ou si vous pensez que ce message vous a été adressé par erreur, vous ne pouvez pas utiliser ou reproduire ce message, ni le livrer à quelqu'un d'autre. Dans ce cas, veuillez le retourner à l'expéditeur et le détruire. Proprietary confidential information belonging to InnovMetric Software Inc. and its affiliates may be contained in this message. If you are not a recipient indicated or intended in this message (or responsible for delivering this message to such a person), or you think for any reason that this message may have been addressed to you by mistake, you may not use or copy this message, or deliver it to anyone else. In which case, notify the sender and destroy the e-mail. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.