RE: FM > PDF bloat

2005-12-05 Thread Grant Hogarth
Title: RE: FM > PDF bloat






Hmmm...
2 thoughts:

1) If you have the GIMP or PhotoShop, you could open the graphic and see waht might be going on.

2) A quick workaround would be to open the image full-screen in irfanview (or anyother app that will let you get a full screen display), and then do a screen capture of the displayed image.  There will be a little of the "Photocopy effect", but not enough for 99% of your audience to notice. It doesn't solve the mystery, but it would let you move along from where you are stuck.

Grant


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From: Rene S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Mon 12/5/2005 4:17 PM
To: Grant Hogarth; framers@lists.FrameUsers.com
Subject: RE: FM > PDF bloat

RE: FM > PDF bloatGood thinking, Grant. A different graphic doesn't cause
the problem. It's just THIS graphic, and it's this graphic in multiple
formats.

Rene

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Try this proof test -- try putting in a *different* graphic and seeing what
that does to the file size.
It may not be the graphic, but the anchored frame that is the problem.

Grant





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RE: FM > PDF bloat

2005-12-05 Thread Rene S.
Title: RE: FM > PDF bloat



Good 
thinking, Grant. A different graphic doesn't cause the problem. It's just THIS 
graphic, and it's this graphic in multiple formats. 
 
Rene
 
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bloat
Try this proof test -- try putting in a *different* graphic and 
seeing what that does to the file size.It may not be the graphic, but the 
anchored frame that is the 
problem.Grant
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RE: FM > PDF bloat

2005-12-05 Thread Grant Hogarth
Title: RE: FM > PDF bloat






Try this proof test -- try putting in a *different* graphic and seeing what that does to the file size.
It may not be the graphic, but the anchored frame that is the problem.

Grant







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RE: FM > PDF bloat

2005-12-02 Thread Joe Malin



Could it be that both of the problems are due to multiple 
facets? You may have your FM set to create FrameImage facets whenever you copy 
in a graphic. That may generate two copies of the 
graphic.
 
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  From: 
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Rene S.Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 4:55 PMTo: 
  framers@lists.FrameUsers.comSubject: RE: FM > PDF 
  bloat
  
  I am 
  having a similar problem. I have a 618kb JPG that has to be copied into the 
  doc (can't be ref'd - long story, unusual case), and it balloons the FM file 
  from 299 kb to 25,669kb when I insert that meager 618kb JPG!  Any 
  suggestions anyone?
   
  Thanks,
  Rene 
  Stephenson
   
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of 
  Baruch BrodersenSent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 4:25 
  AMTo: framers@lists.FrameUsers.comSubject: FM > PDF 
  bloat
  
  I have a Frame file that contains both imports of PDFs of Illustrator graphics and 
  Illustrator files. One of these 
  graphics in particular causes tremendous bloat.
  
  That 
  AI (Illustrator) file weighs in at 
  1.9 MB. The PDF of the same file is a svelte 101 KB. If I import either the Illustrator file or the 
  PDF'd Illustrator file and Save As PDF 
  (standard job option at a measly 600 dpi or 
  even at 1200 dpi) the file balloons out to 11 MB.
  
  If I produce a postscript file (from Frame) of the one page containing the graphic, the results are the 
  same. The postscript file is 1.3 MB, which in turn distills into a 12 MB PDF. Bizarre.
  Any ideas on what 
  to do?
  
  Vital statistics: Frame 7.0p579, WinXP Pro SP2, 
  TimeSavers 3.6, Nav Asst. 2.3.2, Forms 
  Asst 1.7.
  B a 
  r u c h   B r o d e r s e 
  nT e c h n i t e x t   D 
  o c u m e n t a t i o n7 0 2   
  2 8 9   4 1 0 
  6
   
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RE: FM > PDF bloat

2005-12-02 Thread Nagai, Paul



Are you 
embedding all fonts? Is Arial Unicode MS one of them? Are you calling a 
character that is getting substituted with one from Arial Unicode MS (and 
subsequently embedding it)?
 
That font is 
in the neighborhood of 24MB.

  -Original Message-From: 
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of 
  Rene S.Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 4:55 PMTo: 
  framers@lists.FrameUsers.comSubject: RE: FM > PDF 
  bloat
  I am 
  having a similar problem. I have a 618kb JPG that has to be copied into the 
  doc (can't be ref'd - long story, unusual case), and it balloons the FM file 
  from 299 kb to 25,669kb when I insert that meager 618kb JPG!  Any 
  suggestions anyone?
   
  Thanks,
  Rene 
  Stephenson
   
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of 
  Baruch BrodersenSent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 4:25 
  AMTo: framers@lists.FrameUsers.comSubject: FM > PDF 
  bloat
  
  I have a Frame file that contains both imports of PDFs of Illustrator graphics and 
  Illustrator files. One of these 
  graphics in particular causes tremendous bloat.
  
  That 
  AI (Illustrator) file weighs in at 
  1.9 MB. The PDF of the same file is a svelte 101 KB. If I import either the Illustrator file or the 
  PDF'd Illustrator file and Save As PDF 
  (standard job option at a measly 600 dpi or 
  even at 1200 dpi) the file balloons out to 11 MB.
  
  If I produce a postscript file (from Frame) of the one page containing the graphic, the results are the 
  same. The postscript file is 1.3 MB, which in turn distills into a 12 MB PDF. Bizarre.
  Any ideas on what 
  to do?
  
  Vital statistics: Frame 7.0p579, WinXP Pro SP2, 
  TimeSavers 3.6, Nav Asst. 2.3.2, Forms 
  Asst 1.7.
  B a 
  r u c h   B r o d e r s e 
  nT e c h n i t e x t   D 
  o c u m e n t a t i o n7 0 2   
  2 8 9   4 1 0 
  6
   
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RE: FM > PDF bloat

2005-12-02 Thread Rene S.



I am 
having a similar problem. I have a 618kb JPG that has to be copied into the doc 
(can't be ref'd - long story, unusual case), and it balloons the FM file from 
299 kb to 25,669kb when I insert that meager 618kb JPG!  Any suggestions 
anyone?
 
Thanks,
Rene 
Stephenson
 
-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of 
Baruch BrodersenSent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 4:25 
AMTo: framers@lists.FrameUsers.comSubject: FM > PDF 
bloat

I have a Frame file that contains both imports of PDFs of Illustrator graphics and 
Illustrator files. One of these 
graphics in particular causes tremendous bloat.

That 
AI (Illustrator) file weighs in at 
1.9 MB. The PDF of the same file is a svelte 101 KB. If I import either the Illustrator file or the 
PDF'd Illustrator file and Save As PDF 
(standard job option at a measly 600 dpi or even 
at 1200 dpi) the file balloons out to 11 MB.

If I produce a postscript file (from Frame) of the one page containing the graphic, the results are the 
same. The postscript file is 1.3 MB, which in turn distills into a 12 MB PDF. Bizarre.
Any ideas on what to 
do?

Vital statistics: Frame 7.0p579, WinXP Pro SP2, 
TimeSavers 3.6, Nav Asst. 2.3.2, Forms 
Asst 1.7.
B a r 
u c h   B r o d e r s e nT 
e c h n i t e x t   D o c u m e 
n t a t i o n7 0 2   2 8 
9   4 1 0 
6
 
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