What Causes Table Data To Run Off Page?

2007-06-07 Thread Kenneth C. Benson
From: "Angela Akridge" 

> I have a strange behavior with my Frame 7.2 (Unstructured) tables. One
row,
> in the table has a page worth of data in one column. This data runs off
the
> page. The table eventually continues onto the next page, but the missing
> data (the data that ran off the page) doesn't continue. I've never seen
this
> behavior. I changed the table properties (orphans, start, etc), but that
> doesn't fix the problem. Any idea what the cause is?


Frame won't split rows (like Word). So if you have a row that starts at the
top of the page the only place for it to go is off the page.

You're going to have to either widen the column (so that the row fits in the
page) or manually split the row.

Kenneth Benson
Pegasus Type, Inc.
www.pegtype.com




What Causes Table Data To Run Off Page?

2007-06-07 Thread Ridder, Fred
This is FrameMaker behaving as it is designed. A single table
row never, EVER, breaks across more than one page. 
If you have more content than what fits on one page, you 
must manually break the row into two rows that will fit. And 
you must manually adjust that row break if the page break 
moves due to text re-flow.   

The same thing is true of vertical straddles, BTW. If a straddled 
cell is too tall to fit on a single page, some of the non-straddled
cells will disappear off the bottom of the page. 

I wish it weren't so, but this is the way it has always been.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Angela Akridge
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 6:13 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: What Causes Table Data To Run Off Page?

I have a strange behavior with my Frame 7.2 (Unstructured) tables. One
row,
in the table has a page worth of data in one column. This data runs off
the
page. The table eventually continues onto the next page, but the missing
data (the data that ran off the page) doesn't continue. I've never seen
this
behavior. I changed the table properties (orphans, start, etc), but that
doesn't fix the problem. Any idea what the cause is?

Thank you,

Angela



What Causes Table Data To Run Off Page?

2007-06-07 Thread Combs, Richard
Angela Akridge wrote: 

> I have a strange behavior with my Frame 7.2 (Unstructured) 
> tables. One row, in the table has a page worth of data in one 
> column. This data runs off the page. The table eventually 
> continues onto the next page, but the missing data (the data 
> that ran off the page) doesn't continue. I've never seen this 
> behavior. I changed the table properties (orphans, start, 
> etc), but that doesn't fix the problem. Any idea what the cause is?

You've never seen this because you've never had a row that won't fit on
a page. FM doesn't allow a table row to span pages -- never has. 

If you can't reduce the contents of the oversized cell to something more
reasonable, you'll have to fake it. Add a new row below the problem row.
Cut part of the oversized cell's contents and paste it into the
corresponding cell of the new row. Then use Custom Ruling and Shading
settings to hide ruling lines between the two rows so they look like
one. 

HTH!

Richard 


--
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Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
--







Re: What Causes Table Data To Run Off Page?

2007-06-07 Thread Angela Akridge

Okay! The row/column has way to much data to begin with. I've inherited a
command reference guide, and it's loaded with long tables. Gosh, MSWord
handles my tables perfectly. Hmmm. Never thought I'd like any aspect of MS
Word over Frame.

Angela

On 6/7/07, Ridder, Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


This is FrameMaker behaving as it is designed. A single table
row never, EVER, breaks across more than one page.
If you have more content than what fits on one page, you
must manually break the row into two rows that will fit. And
you must manually adjust that row break if the page break
moves due to text re-flow.

The same thing is true of vertical straddles, BTW. If a straddled
cell is too tall to fit on a single page, some of the non-straddled
cells will disappear off the bottom of the page.

I wish it weren't so, but this is the way it has always been.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 6:13 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: What Causes Table Data To Run Off Page?

I have a strange behavior with my Frame 7.2 (Unstructured) tables. One
row,
in the table has a page worth of data in one column. This data runs off
the
page. The table eventually continues onto the next page, but the missing
data (the data that ran off the page) doesn't continue. I've never seen
this
behavior. I changed the table properties (orphans, start, etc), but that
doesn't fix the problem. Any idea what the cause is?

Thank you,

Angela





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What Causes Table Data To Run Off Page?

2007-06-07 Thread Angela Akridge
Okay! The row/column has way to much data to begin with. I've inherited a
command reference guide, and it's loaded with long tables. Gosh, MSWord
handles my tables perfectly. Hmmm. Never thought I'd like any aspect of MS
Word over Frame.

Angela

On 6/7/07, Ridder, Fred  wrote:
>
> This is FrameMaker behaving as it is designed. A single table
> row never, EVER, breaks across more than one page.
> If you have more content than what fits on one page, you
> must manually break the row into two rows that will fit. And
> you must manually adjust that row break if the page break
> moves due to text re-flow.
>
> The same thing is true of vertical straddles, BTW. If a straddled
> cell is too tall to fit on a single page, some of the non-straddled
> cells will disappear off the bottom of the page.
>
> I wish it weren't so, but this is the way it has always been.
>
> My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
> Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
> Intel
> Parsippany, NJ
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
> Behalf Of Angela Akridge
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 6:13 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: What Causes Table Data To Run Off Page?
>
> I have a strange behavior with my Frame 7.2 (Unstructured) tables. One
> row,
> in the table has a page worth of data in one column. This data runs off
> the
> page. The table eventually continues onto the next page, but the missing
> data (the data that ran off the page) doesn't continue. I've never seen
> this
> behavior. I changed the table properties (orphans, start, etc), but that
> doesn't fix the problem. Any idea what the cause is?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Angela
>



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Re: What Causes Table Data To Run Off Page?

2007-06-07 Thread Kenneth C. Benson
From: "Angela Akridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I have a strange behavior with my Frame 7.2 (Unstructured) tables. One
row,
> in the table has a page worth of data in one column. This data runs off
the
> page. The table eventually continues onto the next page, but the missing
> data (the data that ran off the page) doesn't continue. I've never seen
this
> behavior. I changed the table properties (orphans, start, etc), but that
> doesn't fix the problem. Any idea what the cause is?


Frame won't split rows (like Word). So if you have a row that starts at the
top of the page the only place for it to go is off the page.

You're going to have to either widen the column (so that the row fits in the
page) or manually split the row.

Kenneth Benson
Pegasus Type, Inc.
www.pegtype.com

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RE: What Causes Table Data To Run Off Page?

2007-06-07 Thread Ridder, Fred
This is FrameMaker behaving as it is designed. A single table
row never, EVER, breaks across more than one page. 
If you have more content than what fits on one page, you 
must manually break the row into two rows that will fit. And 
you must manually adjust that row break if the page break 
moves due to text re-flow.   

The same thing is true of vertical straddles, BTW. If a straddled 
cell is too tall to fit on a single page, some of the non-straddled
cells will disappear off the bottom of the page. 

I wish it weren't so, but this is the way it has always been.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Angela Akridge
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 6:13 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: What Causes Table Data To Run Off Page?

I have a strange behavior with my Frame 7.2 (Unstructured) tables. One
row,
in the table has a page worth of data in one column. This data runs off
the
page. The table eventually continues onto the next page, but the missing
data (the data that ran off the page) doesn't continue. I've never seen
this
behavior. I changed the table properties (orphans, start, etc), but that
doesn't fix the problem. Any idea what the cause is?

Thank you,

Angela
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RE: What Causes Table Data To Run Off Page?

2007-06-07 Thread Combs, Richard
Angela Akridge wrote: 
 
> I have a strange behavior with my Frame 7.2 (Unstructured) 
> tables. One row, in the table has a page worth of data in one 
> column. This data runs off the page. The table eventually 
> continues onto the next page, but the missing data (the data 
> that ran off the page) doesn't continue. I've never seen this 
> behavior. I changed the table properties (orphans, start, 
> etc), but that doesn't fix the problem. Any idea what the cause is?

You've never seen this because you've never had a row that won't fit on
a page. FM doesn't allow a table row to span pages -- never has. 

If you can't reduce the contents of the oversized cell to something more
reasonable, you'll have to fake it. Add a new row below the problem row.
Cut part of the oversized cell's contents and paste it into the
corresponding cell of the new row. Then use Custom Ruling and Shading
settings to hide ruling lines between the two rows so they look like
one. 

HTH!

Richard 


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Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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303-223-5111
--
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303-777-0436
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What Causes Table Data To Run Off Page?

2007-06-07 Thread Angela Akridge

I have a strange behavior with my Frame 7.2 (Unstructured) tables. One row,
in the table has a page worth of data in one column. This data runs off the
page. The table eventually continues onto the next page, but the missing
data (the data that ran off the page) doesn't continue. I've never seen this
behavior. I changed the table properties (orphans, start, etc), but that
doesn't fix the problem. Any idea what the cause is?

Thank you,

Angela
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What Causes Table Data To Run Off Page?

2007-06-07 Thread Angela Akridge
I have a strange behavior with my Frame 7.2 (Unstructured) tables. One row,
in the table has a page worth of data in one column. This data runs off the
page. The table eventually continues onto the next page, but the missing
data (the data that ran off the page) doesn't continue. I've never seen this
behavior. I changed the table properties (orphans, start, etc), but that
doesn't fix the problem. Any idea what the cause is?

Thank you,

Angela