moving & preserving links between chapters in a book

[Ron and Mary Jo Teplitz]

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> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 09:09:34 -0400
> From: "James Dyson" 
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> Hi all. I'm using Framemaker 8 and we just discovered a problem caused
> when we move our books  to different network locations. If we move  
> from
> point A to point B, the book's links to chapters (i.e. index) and the
> links to different places within the same chapter work just fine. What
> doesn't work is the links from one chapter to another. Is there a
> solution? There very well may be a better way to do this, but  
> here's how
> we move our books: We do a "save as" command for each chapter to  
> the new
> location. We then create a book from scratch in that location (and
> update the book). I'm stumped.
>
>
>
> James Dyson
>
> Technical Writer
>
> KVH Industries, Inc.
>
> 50 Enterprise Center | Middletown, RI 02842
>
> Direct Tel: +1.401.845.2416
>
> Tel: +1.401.847.3327 | Fax: +1.401.849.0045
>
> jdyson at kvh.com
>
> http://www.kvh.com <http://www.kvh.com/>
>
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James,
If you move a file with Save As, it retains the path to external  
files that existed when you did the save.
If you move files to a new location with Windows Explorer, Finder, or  
some other file manager tool,
retaining relative paths between linked files, links will survive and  
will point to the new location.
Ron

Re: moving & preserving links between chapters in a book

[Ron and Mary Jo Teplitz]

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> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 09:09:34 -0400
> From: "James Dyson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: moving & preserving links between chapters in a book
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> Hi all. I'm using Framemaker 8 and we just discovered a problem caused
> when we move our books  to different network locations. If we move  
> from
> point A to point B, the book's links to chapters (i.e. index) and the
> links to different places within the same chapter work just fine. What
> doesn't work is the links from one chapter to another. Is there a
> solution? There very well may be a better way to do this, but  
> here's how
> we move our books: We do a "save as" command for each chapter to  
> the new
> location. We then create a book from scratch in that location (and
> update the book). I'm stumped.
>
>
>
> James Dyson
>
> Technical Writer
>
> KVH Industries, Inc.
>
> 50 Enterprise Center | Middletown, RI 02842
>
> Direct Tel: +1.401.845.2416
>
> Tel: +1.401.847.3327 | Fax: +1.401.849.0045
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> http://www.kvh.com <http://www.kvh.com/>
>
> The information contained in this electronic mail transmission is  
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> entity to which it is directed and may contain information that is  
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>

James,
If you move a file with Save As, it retains the path to external  
files that existed when you did the save.
If you move files to a new location with Windows Explorer, Finder, or  
some other file manager tool,
retaining relative paths between linked files, links will survive and  
will point to the new location.
Ron




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moving & preserving links between chapters in a book

[O'Laoghaire Micheal]

You can also copy/paste the book and all its files (including graphics
in sub-folders) - using file manager, e.g. Windows Explorer.
The files should then keep all their relative links to each other
intact. Links, text insets etc. to outside files (e.g. common files such
as copyright pages, logos etc.) will probably need to be re-established
as their paths are relative.

If you open a file in FrameMaker and 'Save As" it to another location,
the xrefs in the new file will be pointing back to their original
targets. As long as the original target files (and the relevant xref
target markers) remain, Frame will not complain and your books will
appear to build fine. You may not discover the error(s) until, say, you
build a PDF from the book and click on some of the supposedly-internal
links, then find that they are broken. 
Also if you use WebWorks to build help for the book, it will complain
about these external links.

At that stage, it may not be an easy task to re-point the links to their
correct targets (especially if  you discover the problem near deadline
time!)

HTH,
Micheal O'Laoghaire
Comverse Inc.
Cambridge, MA.
Tel: (617) 273-5414

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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 9:23 AM
To: James Dyson
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: moving & preserving links between chapters in a book

I saved one of my chapters that included a cross-reference to a
different chapter as a MIF. Examination showed that cross-chapter
references includes the absolute path to the linked file. If the
directory structure isn't exactly the same in both places, the link
won't work.

You can either recreate all the cross-chapter links or you can use
Bruce Foster's Archiver plugin. It will bundle all the files
(including graphics) in a book and save it wherever you want, and it
updates the links in the process. Well worth the $25.

http://home.comcast.net/~bruce.foster/index.html

HTH

Lin

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:09 AM, James Dyson  wrote:
> Hi all. I'm using Framemaker 8 and we just discovered a problem caused
> when we move our books  to different network locations. If we move
from
> point A to point B, the book's links to chapters (i.e. index) and the
> links to different places within the same chapter work just fine. What
> doesn't work is the links from one chapter to another. Is there a
> solution? There very well may be a better way to do this, but here's
how
> we move our books: We do a "save as" command for each chapter to the
new
> location. We then create a book from scratch in that location (and
> update the book). I'm stumped.
>
>
>
> James Dyson
>
> Technical Writer
>
> KVH Industries, Inc.
>
> 50 Enterprise Center | Middletown, RI 02842
>
> Direct Tel: +1.401.845.2416
>
> Tel: +1.401.847.3327 | Fax: +1.401.849.0045
>
> jdyson at kvh.com
>
> http://www.kvh.com <http://www.kvh.com/>
>
> The information contained in this electronic mail transmission is
intended by KVH Industries for the use of the named individual or entity
to which it is directed and may contain information that is confidential
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RE: moving & preserving links between chapters in a book

[O'Laoghaire Micheal]

You can also copy/paste the book and all its files (including graphics
in sub-folders) - using file manager, e.g. Windows Explorer.
The files should then keep all their relative links to each other
intact. Links, text insets etc. to outside files (e.g. common files such
as copyright pages, logos etc.) will probably need to be re-established
as their paths are relative.

If you open a file in FrameMaker and 'Save As" it to another location,
the xrefs in the new file will be pointing back to their original
targets. As long as the original target files (and the relevant xref
target markers) remain, Frame will not complain and your books will
appear to build fine. You may not discover the error(s) until, say, you
build a PDF from the book and click on some of the supposedly-internal
links, then find that they are broken. 
Also if you use WebWorks to build help for the book, it will complain
about these external links.

At that stage, it may not be an easy task to re-point the links to their
correct targets (especially if  you discover the problem near deadline
time!)

HTH,
Micheal O'Laoghaire
Comverse Inc.
Cambridge, MA.
Tel: (617) 273-5414

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 9:23 AM
To: James Dyson
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: moving & preserving links between chapters in a book

I saved one of my chapters that included a cross-reference to a
different chapter as a MIF. Examination showed that cross-chapter
references includes the absolute path to the linked file. If the
directory structure isn't exactly the same in both places, the link
won't work.

You can either recreate all the cross-chapter links or you can use
Bruce Foster's Archiver plugin. It will bundle all the files
(including graphics) in a book and save it wherever you want, and it
updates the links in the process. Well worth the $25.

http://home.comcast.net/~bruce.foster/index.html

HTH

Lin

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:09 AM, James Dyson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all. I'm using Framemaker 8 and we just discovered a problem caused
> when we move our books  to different network locations. If we move
from
> point A to point B, the book's links to chapters (i.e. index) and the
> links to different places within the same chapter work just fine. What
> doesn't work is the links from one chapter to another. Is there a
> solution? There very well may be a better way to do this, but here's
how
> we move our books: We do a "save as" command for each chapter to the
new
> location. We then create a book from scratch in that location (and
> update the book). I'm stumped.
>
>
>
> James Dyson
>
> Technical Writer
>
> KVH Industries, Inc.
>
> 50 Enterprise Center | Middletown, RI 02842
>
> Direct Tel: +1.401.845.2416
>
> Tel: +1.401.847.3327 | Fax: +1.401.849.0045
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> http://www.kvh.com <http://www.kvh.com/>
>
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moving & preserving links between chapters in a book

[Lin Sims]

I saved one of my chapters that included a cross-reference to a
different chapter as a MIF. Examination showed that cross-chapter
references includes the absolute path to the linked file. If the
directory structure isn't exactly the same in both places, the link
won't work.

You can either recreate all the cross-chapter links or you can use
Bruce Foster's Archiver plugin. It will bundle all the files
(including graphics) in a book and save it wherever you want, and it
updates the links in the process. Well worth the $25.

http://home.comcast.net/~bruce.foster/index.html

HTH

Lin

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:09 AM, James Dyson  wrote:
> Hi all. I'm using Framemaker 8 and we just discovered a problem caused
> when we move our books  to different network locations. If we move from
> point A to point B, the book's links to chapters (i.e. index) and the
> links to different places within the same chapter work just fine. What
> doesn't work is the links from one chapter to another. Is there a
> solution? There very well may be a better way to do this, but here's how
> we move our books: We do a "save as" command for each chapter to the new
> location. We then create a book from scratch in that location (and
> update the book). I'm stumped.
>
>
>
> James Dyson
>
> Technical Writer
>
> KVH Industries, Inc.
>
> 50 Enterprise Center | Middletown, RI 02842
>
> Direct Tel: +1.401.845.2416
>
> Tel: +1.401.847.3327 | Fax: +1.401.849.0045
>
> jdyson at kvh.com
>
> http://www.kvh.com 
>
> The information contained in this electronic mail transmission is intended by 
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moving & preserving links between chapters in a book

[James Dyson]

Hi all. I'm using Framemaker 8 and we just discovered a problem caused
when we move our books  to different network locations. If we move from
point A to point B, the book's links to chapters (i.e. index) and the
links to different places within the same chapter work just fine. What
doesn't work is the links from one chapter to another. Is there a
solution? There very well may be a better way to do this, but here's how
we move our books: We do a "save as" command for each chapter to the new
location. We then create a book from scratch in that location (and
update the book). I'm stumped.



James Dyson

Technical Writer

KVH Industries, Inc.

50 Enterprise Center | Middletown, RI 02842

Direct Tel: +1.401.845.2416

Tel: +1.401.847.3327 | Fax: +1.401.849.0045

jdyson at kvh.com

http://www.kvh.com 

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Re: moving & preserving links between chapters in a book

[Lin Sims]

I saved one of my chapters that included a cross-reference to a
different chapter as a MIF. Examination showed that cross-chapter
references includes the absolute path to the linked file. If the
directory structure isn't exactly the same in both places, the link
won't work.

You can either recreate all the cross-chapter links or you can use
Bruce Foster's Archiver plugin. It will bundle all the files
(including graphics) in a book and save it wherever you want, and it
updates the links in the process. Well worth the $25.

http://home.comcast.net/~bruce.foster/index.html

HTH

Lin

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:09 AM, James Dyson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all. I'm using Framemaker 8 and we just discovered a problem caused
> when we move our books  to different network locations. If we move from
> point A to point B, the book's links to chapters (i.e. index) and the
> links to different places within the same chapter work just fine. What
> doesn't work is the links from one chapter to another. Is there a
> solution? There very well may be a better way to do this, but here's how
> we move our books: We do a "save as" command for each chapter to the new
> location. We then create a book from scratch in that location (and
> update the book). I'm stumped.
>
>
>
> James Dyson
>
> Technical Writer
>
> KVH Industries, Inc.
>
> 50 Enterprise Center | Middletown, RI 02842
>
> Direct Tel: +1.401.845.2416
>
> Tel: +1.401.847.3327 | Fax: +1.401.849.0045
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> http://www.kvh.com 
>
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moving & preserving links between chapters in a book

[James Dyson]

Hi all. I'm using Framemaker 8 and we just discovered a problem caused
when we move our books  to different network locations. If we move from
point A to point B, the book's links to chapters (i.e. index) and the
links to different places within the same chapter work just fine. What
doesn't work is the links from one chapter to another. Is there a
solution? There very well may be a better way to do this, but here's how
we move our books: We do a "save as" command for each chapter to the new
location. We then create a book from scratch in that location (and
update the book). I'm stumped.

 

James Dyson

Technical Writer

KVH Industries, Inc.

50 Enterprise Center | Middletown, RI 02842

Direct Tel: +1.401.845.2416

Tel: +1.401.847.3327 | Fax: +1.401.849.0045

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.kvh.com 
 
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