Re: [Frameworks] experiments in cinema
Bernard,I don't know you, but you've just written one of my favorite love letters. I especially liked: "I could afford to be annoyed."Yours in cinema,Bill Basquin-Original Message- From: Bernard Roddy Sent: Apr 22, 2013 6:12 PM To: "frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com" Subject: [Frameworks] experiments in cinema Bryan, that was amazing. If it appeared at one time that the meaning of a film screening were being lost, Experiments in Cinema is correcting the impression. I don't understand how there could be so many people in a cinema theater, night after night, in the middle of the week as well as on Saturday, and for experimental work - new work! No classics of the avant-garde here. On Sunday at noon? For work devoted to "collaborations with the earth"? In Albuquerque? What is going on! It has been a very long time since I waited in anticipation for a screening like I did last week - again and again. It's not the academic careers sustained by such a program, or the educational value of such an experience to people in town: I keep thinking about what it must've been like early on, sitting up there in the front row during the screenings of particularly demanding works, at a time when film . . even video . . the whole theatrical experience, really, has seemed an anachronism. Sitting up there, then, after listing the sponsors. And how could such an event draw such sponsorship? I don't understand. I don't need to understand. The work in video from Turkey that Ekrem Serder showed renewed my interest in abstraction. Again and again a film was shown with an optical sound track, an experiment, really. I didn't even see it all. I could afford to be annoyed. I could afford to walk out of a show early. I could afford to be an asshole.Bernie Bill Basquin San Francisco, CA 415.317.7611 www.BillBasquin.com www.sfseedswap.org ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] experiments in cinema
Bryan, that was amazing. If it appeared at one time that the meaning of a film screening were being lost, Experiments in Cinema is correcting the impression. I don't understand how there could be so many people in a cinema theater, night after night, in the middle of the week as well as on Saturday, and for experimental work - new work! No classics of the avant-garde here. On Sunday at noon? For work devoted to "collaborations with the earth"? In Albuquerque? What is going on! It has been a very long time since I waited in anticipation for a screening like I did last week - again and again. It's not the academic careers sustained by such a program, or the educational value of such an experience to people in town: I keep thinking about what it must've been like early on, sitting up there in the front row during the screenings of particularly demanding works, at a time when film . . even video . . the whole theatrical experience, really, has seemed an anachronism. Sitting up there, then, after listing the sponsors. And how could such an event draw such sponsorship? I don't understand. I don't need to understand. The work in video from Turkey that Ekrem Serder showed renewed my interest in abstraction. Again and again a film was shown with an optical sound track, an experiment, really. I didn't even see it all. I could afford to be annoyed. I could afford to walk out of a show early. I could afford to be an asshole. Bernie ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Question For Gene Youngblood
Mr Youngblood-
Will that be a new version of Expanded Cinema? We need EC back in print now
more than ever. It is a mindbender of a book.
Thanks.
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Gene Youngblood wrote:
> Doug,
> Among other things, *Expanded Cinema* was about the moving image becoming
> electronic and therefore no longer medium-specific, and some implications
> of that. As far as I know, Ed didn’t begin working with video until 1972,
> when he made *Scape-Mates *at* *the Experimental Television Center at *WNET.
> Scape-Mates *was a pioneering work, however, as it was among the first,
> if not the very first, “film” in which photographed human beings interacted
> with an entirely synthetic electronic environment. If Ed had made it three
> years earlier it most certainly would have been in *Expanded Cinema*.
>
> I’m currently building a website that will have everything I ever wrote
> (including the review of *Relativity* in the *Los Angeles Herald-Examiner*)
> *–* except the 150 articles I wrote for the *Los Angeles Free Press,*which
> I’m collecting in a book. They include the original articles that
> became *Expanded Cinema.* As an added perk, there’s a lot of psychedelic
> graphics from the pages of the *Free Press* that appear for the first
> time in book form, including the amazing surrealism of Chick Strand’s
> husband Martin Muller (“Neon Park”). He’s known for his album covers, but
> these are full-page ads he did for KPPC Radio in the sixties. I’m
> reproducing them as much in memory of Chick as of Marty.
>
> The website should be ready this fall, and the *Free Press* book will be
> published next year. Also this fall I’m starting a blog called “Secession
> From the Broadcast,” which is about my work in radical media theory. The
> website is the past, the blog is the future. Its subtitle is “Leave the
> Culture Without Leaving the Country.” Thanks for your interest...
> **
> *From:* Doug Chaffin("Douglas Graves")
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 21, 2013 4:21 PM
> *To:* FrameWorks
> *Subject:* [Frameworks] Question For Gene Youngblood
>
> I'm a big fan of your Expanded Cinema book. thank you very much for
> writing it. but i'm curious as to why you did not include anything about Ed
> Emshwiller?
>
> And i was wondering if you could please put up online your review of
> "Relativity" ?
>
> Best,
> *Doug Graves*
>
>
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Re: [Frameworks] CAPTURE STREAMING VIDEO
Hi Gene, Though this isn't software, I use (and instruct students to use) keepvid.comas its pretty fast and reliable. Also here is a helpful article on other non-software options. file2hd works quite well but has download limits. http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/capture-streaming-video-website-5-tools/ On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Gene Youngblood wrote: > Can someone recommend Snapz-like software for PC that captures streaming > video? > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] CAPTURE STREAMING VIDEO
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Re: [Frameworks] Looping Super 8
Looping Super 8mm is a tricky one. Main issue is maintaining the installation once it's in play. Making prints of Super 8 is a finicky business especially in colour now that we've lost Ektachrome 100D. When the print degrades, it's either accept the scratches or strike a new print off a monitor (which depending on your set-up will have varying degree of success.) Elmo designed a looper that can handle 400ft of S8, it's a wonderful piece of kit but will only work on Elmo's GS1200 or ST1200 series of projectors. It's worm-geared for perfect balance of tension on the platter. Making a simple loop will get the job done, but is limited to the space in the gallery and will attract a lot more dust. This can be suspended from the ceiling, a transport rig, or even the arms of the projector itself if the loop is small enough. There is also the concern of tension. I've run 16mm all over a room, and with a solid projector the torque will pull the film accordingly, however, i found with super 8 there is a point where there is too much weight in the hanging film for the projector to advance without consequences. For multi-channel loops, you will require more than one projector unless your intension is to just have the films spliced from head to tail. If you wish them to be in sync, you will need to modify each projector with a new motor interlocked with each other unit through a motor control. (*not as much fun as it sounds). I wouldn't worry too much about overheating if you are using Quartz bulbs. The old blue/black top bulbs is a different story (*500w+!). If you have the resources to optically print to 16mm, this format is much easier to deal with regarding loops. Labs can strike you as many prints as you need; projectors are decently available, and there are places that are around that already support this kind of gallery work. Hope this helps! Karl. Technical Coordinator - Liaison of Independent Filmmakers of Toronto ( www.lift.ca) On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Imogen Pring wrote: > Hi there, > > I was wondering if anyone could help me or advise me on how to show Super > 8 film. I want to show my films with a Super 8 projector so it is in the > correct format, but I also want to have my films on a loop. Does anyone > know how to loop films easily? I was told that I could loop the film over > spools hanging from the ceiling. > > I would potentially have more than one film being shown through one > projector - is it possible to loop several films? I am currently using a > Eumig projector and my main concern is that it may overheat? > > Any advice would be great! > > Thank you, and best wishes, > Imogen > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > -- -- Karl Reinsalu e.mail: kreins...@gmail.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Looping Super 8
Hi there, I was wondering if anyone could help me or advise me on how to show Super 8 film. I want to show my films with a Super 8 projector so it is in the correct format, but I also want to have my films on a loop. Does anyone know how to loop films easily? I was told that I could loop the film over spools hanging from the ceiling. I would potentially have more than one film being shown through one projector - is it possible to loop several films? I am currently using a Eumig projector and my main concern is that it may overheat? Any advice would be great! Thank you, and best wishes,Imogen ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
