Re: [Frameworks] Kodak black leader discontinued (remaining options)

[Ed Inman]

If the idea is to be opaque wouldn't virtually any undeveloped Super 8, 16mm or 35mm film right out of the box substitute as black leader?  You could also take black & white film, expose it to light, and develop it to a solid black negative. I'm not sure how the cost of these options would compare to the discontinued leader, but in relatively short lengths the cost shouldn't likely be prohibitive. --Ed
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Re: [Frameworks] Kodak black leader discontinued (remaining options)

[40 Frames]

Some of you may have been following the black leader discussion on AMIA-L,
but if not...

Urbanski does carry black leader for film prints, and Urbanski seems to
have a lot in stock.

Janice at Cinema Arts can supply black leader for cutting camera negative
to print.

Reto Kromer in Switzerland has a supply of black leaders (camera neg,
prints), and has also indicated
that ORWO will/may do special runs of black leader, though I don't know the
details, you'll have to contact
ORWO NA (Brooklyn) or ORWO (Germany) directly for more details.

There may be other options, so if you know of them, post to FW and/or
AMIA-L.


--Alain





On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:38 PM, 40 Frames  wrote:

>
> I suppose this is old news by now, but discontinued in March...
>
> http://motion.kodak.com/motion/uploadedFiles/PCN030214_Q.pdf
>
> 6-mil Kodak Opaque Black Acetate Leaders... in all formats.
>
> I am aware that the magnetic film Kodak carries is made by Pyral, however
> I am surprised to see 16mm magnetic film
> stay in the catalogue longer than all formats of black leader.
>
> I haven't looked around much yet, but I suppose ORWO still carries black
> leader... who else?
>
>
> Alain
>
>
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>
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Re: [Frameworks] Kodak black leader discontinued

[Dominic Angerame]

Thanks for this information. I am finishing up several b/w films (probably
my last b/w, just too impossible to work with anymore). I guess we will
have to settle for watching colorized films thru rose colored glasses.

Dominic


On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 7:27 AM,  wrote:

> According to a british neg cutter on the cinematography forum, ORWO hs
> also stopped production of their black leader.
>
> One suggestion to conserve stock for neg cutting was to use only a foot of
> real black leader on each end, slug in between, giving the lab enough time
> to close the lamp for that section.
>
> best
> Chris
>
> > I suppose this is old news by now, but discontinued in March...
> >
> > http://motion.kodak.com/motion/uploadedFiles/PCN030214_Q.pdf
> >
> > 6-mil Kodak Opaque Black Acetate Leaders... in all formats.
> >
> > I am aware that the magnetic film Kodak carries is made by Pyral, however
> > I
> > am surprised to see 16mm magnetic film
> > stay in the catalogue longer than all formats of black leader.
> >
> > I haven't looked around much yet, but I suppose ORWO still carries black
> > leader... who else?
> >
> >
> > Alain
> >
> >
> > --
> > 40 FRAMES
> > Alain LeTourneau
> > Pam Minty
> >
> > 40 FRAMES
> > 5232 North Williams Avenue
> > Portland, Oregon 97217
> > USA
> >
> > +1 503 231 6548
> > www.40frames.org
> > www.16mmdirectory.org
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Re: [Frameworks] Kodak black leader discontinued

[director]

According to a british neg cutter on the cinematography forum, ORWO hs
also stopped production of their black leader.

One suggestion to conserve stock for neg cutting was to use only a foot of
real black leader on each end, slug in between, giving the lab enough time
to close the lamp for that section.

best
Chris

> I suppose this is old news by now, but discontinued in March...
>
> http://motion.kodak.com/motion/uploadedFiles/PCN030214_Q.pdf
>
> 6-mil Kodak Opaque Black Acetate Leaders... in all formats.
>
> I am aware that the magnetic film Kodak carries is made by Pyral, however
> I
> am surprised to see 16mm magnetic film
> stay in the catalogue longer than all formats of black leader.
>
> I haven't looked around much yet, but I suppose ORWO still carries black
> leader... who else?
>
>
> Alain
>
>
> --
> 40 FRAMES
> Alain LeTourneau
> Pam Minty
>
> 40 FRAMES
> 5232 North Williams Avenue
> Portland, Oregon 97217
> USA
>
> +1 503 231 6548
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Re: [Frameworks] Kodak black leader discontinued

[Scott Dorsey]

Note that the urbanski leader is long perf!
--scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Kodak black leader discontinued

[Caryn Cline]

Check out Urbanski film  in Chicago.  I
bought black leader from them in February: they list







* - 16mm Opaque Black Leader Acetate (actual processed film) -Special
Price. Per 100foot. Great for ends of films, extending fade outs, "scratch"
experimental film making...no light shines through.. $18 (1/2 lb)- 16mm
Opaque Black Leader Acetate (actual processed film)-Special Price. Per
1000foot. $140 (4 lb)Best,CC*


On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 12:38 AM, 40 Frames  wrote:

>
> I suppose this is old news by now, but discontinued in March...
>
> http://motion.kodak.com/motion/uploadedFiles/PCN030214_Q.pdf
>
> 6-mil Kodak Opaque Black Acetate Leaders... in all formats.
>
> I am aware that the magnetic film Kodak carries is made by Pyral, however
> I am surprised to see 16mm magnetic film
> stay in the catalogue longer than all formats of black leader.
>
> I haven't looked around much yet, but I suppose ORWO still carries black
> leader... who else?
>
>
> Alain
>
>
> --
> 40 FRAMES
> Alain LeTourneau
> Pam Minty
>
> 40 FRAMES
> 5232 North Williams Avenue
> Portland, Oregon 97217
> USA
>
> +1 503 231 6548
> www.40frames.org
> www.16mmdirectory.org
> www.emptyquarterfilm.org
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Kodak black leader discontinued

[bridgi...@gmail.com]

http://www.cutfilm.com 
Hi Alain! 
This site was recommended by my direct animation group. I believe he carries 
black leader.

Bridgid

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> On Apr 24, 2014, at 9:38 PM, 40 Frames  wrote:
> 
> 
> I suppose this is old news by now, but discontinued in March...
> 
> http://motion.kodak.com/motion/uploadedFiles/PCN030214_Q.pdf
> 
> 6-mil Kodak Opaque Black Acetate Leaders... in all formats. 
> 
> I am aware that the magnetic film Kodak carries is made by Pyral, however I 
> am surprised to see 16mm magnetic film
> stay in the catalogue longer than all formats of black leader. 
> 
> I haven't looked around much yet, but I suppose ORWO still carries black 
> leader... who else? 
> 
> 
> Alain
> 
> 
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> 
> 40 FRAMES
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> Portland, Oregon 97217
> USA
> 
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[Frameworks] Kodak black leader discontinued

[40 Frames]

I suppose this is old news by now, but discontinued in March...

http://motion.kodak.com/motion/uploadedFiles/PCN030214_Q.pdf

6-mil Kodak Opaque Black Acetate Leaders... in all formats.

I am aware that the magnetic film Kodak carries is made by Pyral, however I
am surprised to see 16mm magnetic film
stay in the catalogue longer than all formats of black leader.

I haven't looked around much yet, but I suppose ORWO still carries black
leader... who else?


Alain


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