Re: HEADS UP Re: cvs commit: src/crypto/openssh/pam_ssh pam_ssh.c src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb freebsd-uthread.c src/include mpool.h src/lib/libc/net name6.c src/lib/libc_r/uthread pthread_private.h uthread_file.c src/lib/libncp ncpl_rcfile.c src/lib/libstand if_ether.h ...

2000-05-26 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Smith writes:
 I objected to a recent commit hiding the fact that this is
 "(elm)-field.sle_next".  Anyway, curelm must be a pointer to a struct.
 Not just any struct; the struct must contain a "field" declared using
 SLIST_ENTRY().
 
 It could be an union or class as well...

It would not be very useful if it were a union; the class issue is valid 
(although you could trivially use a struct contained within a class and a 
parent reference) but definitely not a good enough argument to support 
the massive breakage this otherwise entails.

I have yet to see any signs of "massive breakage".

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Re: HEADS UP Re: cvs commit: src/crypto/openssh/pam_ssh pam_ssh.c src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb freebsd-uthread.c src/include mpool.h src/lib/libc/net name6.c src/lib/libc_r/uthread pthread_private.h uthread_file.c src/lib/libncp ncpl_rcfile.c src/lib/libstand if_ether.h ...

2000-05-26 Thread Jake Burkholder

 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Smith writes:
  I objected to a recent commit hiding the fact that this is
  "(elm)-field.sle_next".  Anyway, curelm must be a pointer to a struct.
  Not just any struct; the struct must contain a "field" declared using
  SLIST_ENTRY().
  
  It could be an union or class as well...
 
 It would not be very useful if it were a union; the class issue is valid 
 (although you could trivially use a struct contained within a class and a 
 parent reference) but definitely not a good enough argument to support 
 the massive breakage this otherwise entails.
 
 I have yet to see any signs of "massive breakage".

Please just let it rest.

I don't think Mike's comments are out of line; this was massive
breakage regardless of wether world built or not.



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Re: HEADS UP Re: cvs commit: src/crypto/openssh/pam_ssh pam_ssh.c src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb freebsd-uthread.c src/include mpool.h src/lib/libc/net name6.c src/lib/libc_r/uthread pthread_private.h uthread_file.c src/lib/libncp ncpl_rcfile.c src/lib/libstand if_ether.h ...

2000-05-26 Thread Mike Smith

 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Smith writes:
  I objected to a recent commit hiding the fact that this is
  "(elm)-field.sle_next".  Anyway, curelm must be a pointer to a struct.
  Not just any struct; the struct must contain a "field" declared using
  SLIST_ENTRY().
  
  It could be an union or class as well...
 
 It would not be very useful if it were a union; the class issue is valid 
 (although you could trivially use a struct contained within a class and a 
 parent reference) but definitely not a good enough argument to support 
 the massive breakage this otherwise entails.
 
 I have yet to see any signs of "massive breakage".

Try "source-level incompatibility with everyone else that uses these 
interfaces" (eg. all the other BSDs, OS/X, AIX, etc.)

The queue macros are a stable, widely-used API.  If you're going to 
change their calling conventions, simple commonsense behooves you to 
rename them as well.

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Re: HEADS UP Re: cvs commit: src/crypto/openssh/pam_ssh pam_ssh.c src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb freebsd-uthread.c src/include mpool.h src/lib/libc/net name6.c src/lib/libc_r/uthread pthread_private.h uthread_file.c src/lib/libncp ncpl_rcfile.c src/lib/libstand if_ether.h ...

2000-05-26 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Daniel C. Sobral" writes:
: Last I knew, the only difference between "class" and "struct" was
: whether the default was "public:" or "private:". Of course, C++ has
: changed quite a bit since then, but...

Yes.  That's true in C++ today (well, in gcc 2.95) as well.  Many
things have changed since the bad old days of cfront 1.2, not all of
them for the better.

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Re: HEADS UP Re: cvs commit: src/crypto/openssh/pam_ssh pam_ssh.c src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb freebsd-uthread.c src/include mpool.h src/lib/libc/net name6.c src/lib/libc_r/uthread pthread_private.h uthread_file.c src/lib/libncp ncpl_rcfile.c src/lib/libstand if_ether.h ...

2000-05-25 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bruce Evans
 writes:
On Wed, 24 May 2000, Garrett Wollman wrote:

 On Tue, 23 May 2000 20:27:10 -0700, Jake Burkholder [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
  I've just built a fresh world here; if you use the cvs-crypto from
  internat, it may be broken.  I submitted a patch to Mark Murray which
  should fix it, here it is again just in case:
 
 I still think (and am going on record) that this is a REALLY, REALLY
 BAD idea.

Especially since most of the queue macros require the type to be a struct
to work.  E.g.:

#defineSLIST_REMOVE(head, elm, type, field) do {   \
 a supposedly general type
   if (SLIST_FIRST((head)) == (elm)) { \
   SLIST_REMOVE_HEAD((head), field);   \
   }   \
   else {  \
   type *curelm = SLIST_FIRST((head)); \
   while (SLIST_NEXT(curelm, field) != (elm))  \
  ^

I objected to a recent commit hiding the fact that this is
"(elm)-field.sle_next".  Anyway, curelm must be a pointer to a struct.
Not just any struct; the struct must contain a "field" declared using
SLIST_ENTRY().

It could be an union or class as well...

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Re: HEADS UP Re: cvs commit: src/crypto/openssh/pam_ssh pam_ssh.c src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb freebsd-uthread.c src/include mpool.h src/lib/libc/net name6.c src/lib/libc_r/uthread pthread_private.h uthread_file.c src/lib/libncp ncpl_rcfile.c src/lib/libstand if_ether.h ...

2000-05-25 Thread Mike Smith

 I objected to a recent commit hiding the fact that this is
 "(elm)-field.sle_next".  Anyway, curelm must be a pointer to a struct.
 Not just any struct; the struct must contain a "field" declared using
 SLIST_ENTRY().
 
 It could be an union or class as well...

It would not be very useful if it were a union; the class issue is valid 
(although you could trivially use a struct contained within a class and a 
parent reference) but definitely not a good enough argument to support 
the massive breakage this otherwise entails.

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Re: HEADS UP Re: cvs commit: src/crypto/openssh/pam_ssh pam_ssh.c src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb freebsd-uthread.c src/include mpool.h src/lib/libc/net name6.c src/lib/libc_r/uthread pthread_private.h uthread_file.c src/lib/libncp ncpl_rcfile.c src/lib/libstand if_ether.h ...

2000-05-25 Thread Garrett Wollman

On Thu, 25 May 2000 23:33:31 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 It could be an union or class as well...

No, it couldn't be a union.  Or rather, it could, but a linked-list
which does not carry any data is somewhat less than useful.  If you're
programming in C++, there are much more appropriate ways to construct
abstract data types.

-GAWollman



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Re: HEADS UP Re: cvs commit: src/crypto/openssh/pam_ssh pam_ssh.c src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb freebsd-uthread.c src/include mpool.h src/lib/libc/net name6.c src/lib/libc_r/uthread pthread_private.h uthread_file.c src/lib/libncp ncpl_rcfile.c src/lib/libstand if_ether.h ...

2000-05-24 Thread Garrett Wollman

On Tue, 23 May 2000 20:27:10 -0700, Jake Burkholder [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 I've just built a fresh world here; if you use the cvs-crypto from
 internat, it may be broken.  I submitted a patch to Mark Murray which
 should fix it, here it is again just in case:

I still think (and am going on record) that this is a REALLY, REALLY
BAD idea.

-GAWollman



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Re: HEADS UP Re: cvs commit: src/crypto/openssh/pam_ssh pam_ssh.c src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb freebsd-uthread.c src/include mpool.h src/lib/libc/net name6.c src/lib/libc_r/uthread pthread_private.h uthread_file.c src/lib/libncp ncpl_rcfile.c src/lib/libstand if_ether.h ...

2000-05-24 Thread Julian Elischer

Garrett Wollman wrote:
 
 On Tue, 23 May 2000 20:27:10 -0700, Jake Burkholder [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
  I've just built a fresh world here; if you use the cvs-crypto from
  internat, it may be broken.  I submitted a patch to Mark Murray which
  should fix it, here it is again just in case:
 
 I still think (and am going on record) that this is a REALLY, REALLY
 BAD idea.

I'm not crazy about it either..

breaks compatibility with the original source of the queue macros.

What are the advantages?

 
 -GAWollman
 
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Re: HEADS UP Re: cvs commit: src/crypto/openssh/pam_ssh pam_ssh.c src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb freebsd-uthread.c src/include mpool.h src/lib/libc/net name6.c src/lib/libc_r/uthread pthread_private.h uthread_file.c src/lib/libncp ncpl_rcfile.c src/lib/libstand if_ether.h ...

2000-05-24 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jake Burkholder writes:
: Some drivers use headers from the installed system during the kernel build,
: and a make world, or at least make includes, is necessary before a new kernel
: can be built.
: 
: LINT is affected by this.

Which drivers?  Those drivers are, by definition, broken.  The should
absolutely ***NOT*** supposed depend on what's on the system.

Warner


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