Re: 5.0-RUSH: -current install testers wanted!
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I want as many people as possible to beat up on sysinstall as much as they can. And I want them to do it RSN: 5.0-R is only 9 days away. Please try to be creative in the choices you make in sysinstall, we don't need 20 people all testing ftp-passive, we need to get all the media options tested, IPv4 and IPv6, all the different distributions, scripted installs, on different hardware configs and so. If you find problems, please try to see if you reproduce them, if you can, try to see if you can isolate them to some particular menu choice or set of circumstances. Please report your findings with send-pr. Ad-Hoc testing is unlikely to find problems; if you are expecting a certain class of problems, it's best to treat them, up front. There are a number of systems right now with broken INT 0x12 implementations which will not boot at all right now (they panic almost immediately). I think you are going to end up with a lot of bug reports not related to the problems you are trying to prevent/address. 8-(. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: 5.0-RUSH: -current install testers wanted!
* De: Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Data: 2002-10-21 ] [ Subjecte: 5.0-RUSH: -current install testers wanted! ] I want as many people as possible to beat up on sysinstall as much as they can. I've been fighting to find a way to install -CURRENT pure on my workstation using the 4.7 CD I just got in the mail, to no avail, because of the bin-base thing. But with the 4.7 installer, bouncing around in the FTP and networking screens, having done the restart sysinstall thing once, I managed to get a SIG11, though I couldn't reproduce it with debugging on. Anyone with a good idea on how to bootstrap a _clean_ 5.0 install to a box with only a CDROM drive, and 4.7 CD, with broken PXE firmware, and an IDE disk which can be thrashed, by all means tell me... I'd imagine that I could just use the mfsroot and kernel, but there's no way for me to disable atkbd/atkbdc that _I_ know of, in the post-userconfig world, and my keyboard is broken at the mountroot prompt, as the atkbdc detected based on my usb keyboard makes neither interface work, as both are exposed to the kernel. I've never had to install CURRENT on here without the ability to burn a bootable CD, and use userconfig... Yes, it was that long ago that I did my initial install. Thoughts? Yes, I could build my own kernel and fake it, but I can't do that in a real, user environment, and I'd love to have some idea of what might be possible... Damned Korean legacy-free box :/ Thanks, juli. -- Juli Mallett [EMAIL PROTECTED] | FreeBSD: The Power To Serve Will break world for fulltime employment. | finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.FreeBSD.org/~jmallett/ | Support my FreeBSD hacking! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: 5.0-RUSH: -current install testers wanted!
Juli Mallett wrote: Anyone with a good idea on how to bootstrap a _clean_ 5.0 install to a box with only a CDROM drive, and 4.7 CD, with broken PXE firmware, and an IDE disk which can be thrashed, by all means tell me... I'd imagine that I could just use the mfsroot and kernel, but there's no way for me to disable atkbd/atkbdc that _I_ know of, in the post-userconfig world, and my keyboard is broken at the mountroot prompt, as the atkbdc detected based on my usb keyboard makes neither interface work, as both are exposed to the kernel. I've never had to install CURRENT on here without the ability to burn a bootable CD, and use userconfig... Yes, it was that long ago that I did my initial install. Thoughts? Find another box where it has already been successfully installed, and an ISO image has been built from sources. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: 5.0-RUSH: -current install testers wanted!
* De: Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Data: 2002-10-22 ] [ Subjecte: Re: 5.0-RUSH: -current install testers wanted! ] Juli Mallett wrote: Anyone with a good idea on how to bootstrap a _clean_ 5.0 install to a box with only a CDROM drive, and 4.7 CD, with broken PXE firmware, and an IDE disk which can be thrashed, by all means tell me... I'd imagine that I could just use the mfsroot and kernel, but there's no way for me to disable atkbd/atkbdc that _I_ know of, in the post-userconfig world, and my keyboard is broken at the mountroot prompt, as the atkbdc detected based on my usb keyboard makes neither interface work, as both are exposed to the kernel. I've never had to install CURRENT on here without the ability to burn a bootable CD, and use userconfig... Yes, it was that long ago that I did my initial install. Thoughts? Find another box where it has already been successfully installed, and an ISO image has been built from sources. I don't have a CD burner. I have no ability to burn a CD at all. -- Juli Mallett [EMAIL PROTECTED] | FreeBSD: The Power To Serve Will break world for fulltime employment. | finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.FreeBSD.org/~jmallett/ | Support my FreeBSD hacking! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: 5.0-RUSH: -current install testers wanted!
* De: Soeren Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Data: 2002-10-22 ] [ Subjecte: Re: 5.0-RUSH: -current install testers wanted! ] It seems Juli Mallett wrote: Find another box where it has already been successfully installed, and an ISO image has been built from sources. I don't have a CD burner. I have no ability to burn a CD at all. Where do you live ? I'm sure we can find someone with a CD burner near you willing to make a copy and snailmail it to you... (Consider this a beg for anyone close enough for it to be cost effective to send me a 5.0-CURRENT snapshot CD, on which I can somehow disable the atkbdc/atkbd stuff at bootup, or which has them out of the kernel...) Juli Mallett 11145 W 76th Terrace Shawnee, KS 66214 United States Thanks for the idea :) juli. -- Juli Mallett [EMAIL PROTECTED] | FreeBSD: The Power To Serve Will break world for fulltime employment. | finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.FreeBSD.org/~jmallett/ | Support my FreeBSD hacking! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: 5.0-RUSH: -current install testers wanted!
Juli Mallett wrote: Find another box where it has already been successfully installed, and an ISO image has been built from sources. I don't have a CD burner. I have no ability to burn a CD at all. You don't burn a CD from the other box, you install from it. Though FreeBSD doesn't technically support it, because they do not make the sysinstall image easily available, you can upgrade via a CDROM FS image via NFS, without even needing a local CDROM installed on the machine being upgraded. To do this, copy over /stand/sysinstall to /tmp/sysinstall (it is crunched, therefore av[0] needs to be sysinstall), mount the image via NFS, run the sysinstall in /tmp, and select local file system for the media from which you will be upgrading. You must manullay run disklabel to change the boot code, after the upgrade, and prior to the reboot (the upgrade code in sysinstall makes assumptions about the boot media when it comes to the boot code installation, and those assumptions are often invalis, as in this case). If you are using SSH, you will potentially need to add the ssh line to the pam.conf file, or you will need physical console access to get back into the machine after you reboot with the new OS. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: 5.0-RUSH: -current install testers wanted!
* De: Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Data: 2002-10-22 ] [ Subjecte: Re: 5.0-RUSH: -current install testers wanted! ] Juli Mallett wrote: Find another box where it has already been successfully installed, and an ISO image has been built from sources. I don't have a CD burner. I have no ability to burn a CD at all. You don't burn a CD from the other box, you install from it. Though FreeBSD doesn't technically support it, because they do not make the sysinstall image easily available, you can upgrade via a CDROM FS image via NFS, without even needing a local CDROM installed on the machine being upgraded. To do this, copy over /stand/sysinstall to /tmp/sysinstall (it is crunched, therefore av[0] needs to be sysinstall), mount the image via NFS, run the sysinstall in /tmp, and select local file system for the media from which you will be upgrading. You must manullay run disklabel to change the boot code, after the upgrade, and prior to the reboot (the upgrade code in sysinstall makes assumptions about the boot media when it comes to the boot code installation, and those assumptions are often invalis, as in this case). If you are using SSH, you will potentially need to add the ssh line to the pam.conf file, or you will need physical console access to get back into the machine after you reboot with the new OS. If I wanted to do this, I could, but it would not give me a clean 5.0 install, and it is also not that simple at this time, as (afaict) kern.disks is required by sysinstall, which 4.x doesn't support... And even then, I'd have to blow away everything except /tmp first, which is a hell of a lot of fun, especially when it (often) doesn't work... -- Juli Mallett [EMAIL PROTECTED] | FreeBSD: The Power To Serve Will break world for fulltime employment. | finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.FreeBSD.org/~jmallett/ | Support my FreeBSD hacking! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: 5.0-RUSH: -current install testers wanted!
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 08:33:53AM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: If you don't have the machine-power to run make release yourself, I hope the japanese snapshot server is producing good snapshots, if that fails, I would appreciate if somebody will produce and put up good releases and/or ISO images somewhere. snapshots.jp.freebsd.org hasn't completed a make release since September 17th by the looks of things. Ceri -- you can't see when light's so strong you can't see when light is gone To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: 5.0-RUSH: -current install testers wanted!
Last week I replace a broken mainboard with a dual-Athlon one (Tyan Tiger s2466n-4m) and decided to upgrade that box from 4-stable to -current by installing the 0917-jpsnap via the floppies and passive ftp. I hit several sysinstall-problems some of which my already be fixed: - The hd I install -current onto previously had 4-stable on it, I deleted slice one (was the only one) and created a new one and selected the standard MBR. I decided to give UFS2 a try and created the filesystems with '-O 2 -U' (there was some problem toggling Softupdates und just adding '-O 2' to the newfs-options). But after rebooting the 4-stable (!) bootloader came claiming it wasn't able to load /kernel, a `ls` at the bootloader-prompt showed the contents of the former root-fs, even the former contents of some of the sub- direcroties , e.g. /etc could be displayed. - After a `dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 count=16` (booted with another hd containing 4-stable) I repeated the above procedure and ended up with the -current bootloader yelling No UFS several times. For now I ended up having the root-fs UFS1 and var, usr and tmp UFS2. This problem seems to be on the todo-list. - During the 6-7 sysinstall-runs (it hung and crashed unreproduceable 4-5 times) I always had the problem that after configuring the nic with a ipv4-adress it took some random time between ~15 seconds up to several minutes to look up the hostname of the jpsnap-server. This definitely wasn't a network- or dns-problem, another box connected via the same line and using the same nameserver didn't have problems looking up the hostname. I ran tcpdump on the other box and the reason for this seems to be sysinstall doing ipv6 neigbhourhood-detection and ping6 the ipv6-address of the jpsnap- server also the interface wasn't configured for ipv6. I also saw some stuff that I don't know of what it is: fe80::2e0:81ff:fe22:d7cf ff02::2:f8c7:7880: HBH icmp6: multicast listener report max resp delay: 0 addr: ff02::2:f8c7:7880 [hlim 1] - The 3 or 4 times I got to the point to set the root password the prompt to enter it popped up in ttyv1 and not in tty0 like the rest of sysinstall. I wasn't actually able to set one but sysinstall returned to the post-install-configuration-menue when hitting ctrl-c in ttyv0. Some problems I have with the installed -current: - The bios of the board offers ACPI-support and as I thought FreeBSD's support of this is advanced enough I decided to turn it but it turned out to not be SMP-safe. I can't remeber a panic while running an UP-kernel for the short time to update to latest -current and build a SMP-kernel. When both ACPI- (via kld) and SMP-support are enabled the box is fscking unstable, I get about 3 lock-order-reversal- and locking-against-myself-panics per hour and occasionally spontaneous reboots. After turing of ACPI-support in the bios the ACPI-kld no longer gets loaded and the box runs stable for 3 days (no more panics or spontaneous reboots), still with the same kernel built of sources as of Oct 17. The mainboard has 2 pci-bridges, they and all devices behind them successfully get probed when running with ACPI enabled so this doesn't sound like the problem described in the todo-list. acpiconf doesn't work except for `acpiconf -s 1` (after an `acpiconf -e`), `acpiconf -s 1` turns off the output of the gfx- card for the fraction of second (once also the hd sounded as it would spin-down) and as soon it returns 2 resume-messages get displayed. Doing this causes a panic (pagefaults iirc) in about 1 of 5 times. - After the tons of panics I got the background fsck always cleaned up an alarming number of files and directories on the UFS2- filesystems, much more than I've ever seen after a panic of a 4-stable box. As I got most panics while extracting tarballs or building ports this could be ok but once also file I successfully downloaded some 30-60 seconds before a panic got deleted during the fsck-run, imho this shouldn't happen. Last but not least it would be fine if sysinstall would also support ATAPI-floppies (/dev/afd0) for mounting the fixit-floppy. I didn't check recently but I think support for mounting the live-cdrom in SCSI-cdroms is also broken, last time I tried it also wasn't possible to install from a SCSI-cdrom as sysinstall didn't detect /dev/cd0c. Hrm, the minor looks wrong in devices.c, could this be the reason ? static struct _devname { DeviceType type; char *name; char *description; int major, minor, delta, max; } device_names[] = { { DEVICE_TYPE_CDROM,cd%dc,SCSI CDROM drive, 15, 2, 8, 4 but: ls -la /dev/cd0c crw-r- 1 root operator 15, 0 Oct 22 19:02 /dev/cd0c At least the minor matches for acd0c. Marius To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: 5.0-RUSH: -current install testers wanted!
--On mardi 22 octobre 2002 10:08 +0100 Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 08:33:53AM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: If you don't have the machine-power to run make release yourself, I hope the japanese snapshot server is producing good snapshots, if that fails, I would appreciate if somebody will produce and put up good releases and/or ISO images somewhere. snapshots.jp.freebsd.org hasn't completed a make release since September 17th by the looks of things. I was willing to install a fresh -current, I'm trying to make release from a -stable box, but I don't believe it will end well. Could someone make release from a recent -current so that many of us could install it ? -- Mathieu Arnold To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
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On Tue Oct 22, 2002 at 08:33:53AM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: [...] And I want them to do it RSN: 5.0-R is only 9 days away. [...] 9 days??? There won't be another DP? A. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: 5.0-RUSH: -current install testers wanted!
If memory serves me right, The Anarcat wrote: On Tue Oct 22, 2002 at 08:33:53AM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: [...] And I want them to do it RSN: 5.0-R is only 9 days away. [...] 9 days??? There won't be another DP? Um, not exactly. The current release date isn't until 20 November (subject to change, but that's the official word until RE says otherwise). That being said, the more testing we can get with sysinstall and fresh installations, the better. Urk. We really need to update some of the dates on the 5.0 release schedule. I'll push this during the RE telecon this week, if we don't get to it sooner. Bruce. PS. We're still trying to do DP2. Any other snapshots we release after DP2 are more likely to be release-candidate-style snapshots. msg37548/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 5.0-RUSH: -current install testers wanted!
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 01:07:50PM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: If memory serves me right, The Anarcat wrote: On Tue Oct 22, 2002 at 08:33:53AM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: And I want them to do it RSN: 5.0-R is only 9 days away. 9 days??? There won't be another DP? Um, not exactly. The current release date isn't until 20 November (subject to change, but that's the official word until RE says otherwise). That being said, the more testing we can get with sysinstall and fresh installations, the better. Urk. We really need to update some of the dates on the 5.0 release schedule. I'll push this during the RE telecon this week, if we don't get to it sooner. I've noticed many commits on cvs-all include an Approved by: re line, but I haven't seen an official code slush/freeze announcement. Is RE going to request a code freeze around 10 Nov.? -- Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
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If memory serves me right, Steve Kargl wrote: I've noticed many commits on cvs-all include an Approved by: re line, but I haven't seen an official code slush/freeze announcement. Feature freeze started 16 October. New feature commits (as opposed to bugfix or doc commits) should have RE approval. Is RE going to request a code freeze around 10 Nov.? Clearly we're not adhering to the last published code-freeze date; according to that, we would have been in code-freeze for two days already. The more src-oriented members of RE are probably in a better position than I am to say when code-freeze is going to start. Bruce. msg37552/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 5.0-RUSH: -current install testers wanted!
Is sysinstall still supposed to copy the contents of the mfsroot- image to /stand ? This at least results in two copies of sysinstall, one in /stand and the other one in /usr/sbin. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: 5.0-RUSH: -current install testers wanted!
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] .de writes: Is sysinstall still supposed to copy the contents of the mfsroot- image to /stand ? This at least results in two copies of sysinstall, one in /stand and the other one in /usr/sbin. That is intentional -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: 5.0-RUSH: -current install testers wanted!
For what it's worth; I'm also using a dual-Athlon that gets spontaneous reboots once in a while and seems like it could possibly have to do with ACPI activating while the system is trying to cool itself down. Do you have any more hints here on where the problem may lie so I can attempt to track it down? -- Brian Fundakowski Feldman \'[ FreeBSD ]''\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ The Power to Serve! \ Opinions expressed are my own. \,,\ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
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On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 10:39:32PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: That is intentional Is it ok then that the sysinstall in /stand of the 0917-JPSNAP immediately dumps core with signal 10 when run on a 1017 -current ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] .de writes: On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 10:39:32PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: That is intentional Is it ok then that the sysinstall in /stand of the 0917-JPSNAP immediately dumps core with signal 10 when run on a 1017 -current ? Current developments considered: that's probably to be expected. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: 5.0-RUSH: -current install testers wanted!
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] .de writes: Is sysinstall still supposed to copy the contents of the mfsroot- image to /stand ? This at least results in two copies of sysinstall, one in /stand and the other one in /usr/sbin. That is intentional Yes. It would be a good idea to make the sysinstall available as a binary image on the CDROM, as well, to permit it to be used for network mounted upgrades of things like lots of CDROM-less boxes in racks, too, which would make it 3 places. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
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On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 04:40:12PM -0400, Brian F. Feldman wrote: For what it's worth; I'm also using a dual-Athlon that gets spontaneous reboots once in a while and seems like it could possibly have to do with ACPI activating while the system is trying to cool itself down. Do you have any more hints here on where the problem may lie so I can attempt to track it down? Nope, sorry, just happens... Thinking a bit about it I think so far they only happened when the box was fairly idle so maybe it occures when ACPI is trying to throttle down the system. Like I wrote I disabled ACPI for now as it seems to cause the frequent locking-related panics I saw. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: 5.0-RUSH: -current install testers wanted!
* De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Data: 2002-10-22 ] [ Subjecte: Re: 5.0-RUSH: -current install testers wanted! ] On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 10:39:32PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: That is intentional Is it ok then that the sysinstall in /stand of the 0917-JPSNAP immediately dumps core with signal 10 when run on a 1017 -current ? You're really supposed to run /usr/sbin/sysinstall. This breaks my finger memory, but is the new world order. -- Juli Mallett [EMAIL PROTECTED] | FreeBSD: The Power To Serve Will break world for fulltime employment. | finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.FreeBSD.org/~jmallett/ | Support my FreeBSD hacking! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
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Wow, spooky, I used to live at: 8716 W 70th Terr Shawnee Mission, KS 66204 Of course, that was back in the early 70's ;). Anyway, I might be able to get you a copy if you want 1. I have a spare 5.0-DP somewhere at one of my customers in Lenexa, or I could make a newer version. Unfortunately, I cannot get to my broadband connection until Thursday because I am staying with my wife at the hospital. If noone else sends you one, I will try to make one for you and mail it then. - brian On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Juli Mallett wrote: * De: Soeren Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Data: 2002-10-22 ] [ Subjecte: Re: 5.0-RUSH: -current install testers wanted! ] It seems Juli Mallett wrote: Find another box where it has already been successfully installed, and an ISO image has been built from sources. I don't have a CD burner. I have no ability to burn a CD at all. Where do you live ? I'm sure we can find someone with a CD burner near you willing to make a copy and snailmail it to you... (Consider this a beg for anyone close enough for it to be cost effective to send me a 5.0-CURRENT snapshot CD, on which I can somehow disable the atkbdc/atkbd stuff at bootup, or which has them out of the kernel...) Juli Mallett 11145 W 76th Terrace Shawnee, KS 66214 United States Thanks for the idea :) juli. -- Juli Mallett [EMAIL PROTECTED] | FreeBSD: The Power To Serve Will break world for fulltime employment. | finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.FreeBSD.org/~jmallett/ | Support my FreeBSD hacking! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message +---+--+ He rides a cycle of mighty days, and \ Wm Brian and Lori McCane represents the last great schizm among\ McCane Consulting the gods. Evil though he obviously is, \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] he is a mighty figure, this father of \ http://freenews.maxbaud.net/ my spirit, and I respect him as the sons \ http://www.sellit-here.com/ of old did the fathers of their bodies. \ http://recall.maxbaud.net/ Roger Zelazny - Lord of Light\ http://www.mccons.net/ +---+--+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
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* De: Wm Brian McCane [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Data: 2002-10-22 ] [ Subjecte: Re: 5.0-RUSH: -current install testers wanted! ] Wow, spooky, I used to live at: 8716 W 70th Terr Shawnee Mission, KS 66204 Of course, that was back in the early 70's ;). Anyway, I might be able to get you a copy if you want 1. I have a spare 5.0-DP somewhere at one of my customers in Lenexa, or I could make a newer version. Unfortunately, I cannot get to my broadband connection until Thursday because I am staying with my wife at the hospital. If noone else sends you one, I will try to make one for you and mail it then. Someone's already offered to burn me one (petef@) CD of any ISO, so I'm working to get a 'make release' done locally with the appropriate conf options. Thanks much though, any BSD Users Groups in this area? :) juli. -- Juli Mallett [EMAIL PROTECTED] | FreeBSD: The Power To Serve Will break world for fulltime employment. | finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.FreeBSD.org/~jmallett/ | Support my FreeBSD hacking! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
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Well, I'll send it to you or anyone else if you can provide me with the link of what you want. Only thing I ask is that an official Mesa 4.0.4 FSBD port makes it into the 5.0 release as well as the next 4.x release. ;o) All I ask! -K _ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message