Re: sched_pin() versus PCPU_GET

2010-08-08 Thread mdf
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Attilio Rao  wrote:
> 2010/8/4  :
>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:31 PM, John Baldwin  wrote:
>>> On Friday, July 30, 2010 10:08:22 am John Baldwin wrote:
 On Thursday, July 29, 2010 7:39:02 pm m...@freebsd.org wrote:
 > We've seen a few instances at work where witness_warn() in ast()
 > indicates the sched lock is still held, but the place it claims it was
 > held by is in fact sometimes not possible to keep the lock, like:
 >
 >     thread_lock(td);
 >     td->td_flags &= ~TDF_SELECT;
 >     thread_unlock(td);
 >
 > What I was wondering is, even though the assembly I see in objdump -S
 > for witness_warn has the increment of td_pinned before the PCPU_GET:
 >
 > 802db210:   65 48 8b 1c 25 00 00    mov    %gs:0x0,%rbx
 > 802db217:   00 00
 > 802db219:   ff 83 04 01 00 00       incl   0x104(%rbx)
 >      * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread migration.
 >      * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
 >      * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
 >      */
 >     sched_pin();
 >     lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
 > 802db21f:   65 48 8b 04 25 48 00    mov    %gs:0x48,%rax
 > 802db226:   00 00
 >     if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
 > 802db228:   48 85 c0                test   %rax,%rax
 >      * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread migration.
 >      * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
 >      * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
 >      */
 >     sched_pin();
 >     lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
 > 802db22b:   48 89 85 f0 fe ff ff    mov    %rax,-0x110(%rbp)
 > 802db232:   48 89 85 f8 fe ff ff    mov    %rax,-0x108(%rbp)
 >     if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
 > 802db239:   0f 84 ff 00 00 00       je     802db33e
 > 
 > 802db23f:   44 8b 60 50             mov    0x50(%rax),%r12d
 >
 > is it possible for the hardware to do any re-ordering here?
 >
 > The reason I'm suspicious is not just that the code doesn't have a
 > lock leak at the indicated point, but in one instance I can see in the
 > dump that the lock_list local from witness_warn is from the pcpu
 > structure for CPU 0 (and I was warned about sched lock 0), but the
 > thread id in panic_cpu is 2.  So clearly the thread was being migrated
 > right around panic time.
 >
 > This is the amd64 kernel on stable/7.  I'm not sure exactly what kind
 > of hardware; it's a 4-way Intel chip from about 3 or 4 years ago IIRC.
 >
 > So... do we need some kind of barrier in the code for sched_pin() for
 > it to really do what it claims?  Could the hardware have re-ordered
 > the "mov    %gs:0x48,%rax" PCPU_GET to before the sched_pin()
 > increment?

 Hmmm, I think it might be able to because they refer to different 
 locations.

 Note this rule in section 8.2.2 of Volume 3A:

   • Reads may be reordered with older writes to different locations but not
     with older writes to the same location.

 It is certainly true that sparc64 could reorder with RMO.  I believe ia64
 could reorder as well.  Since sched_pin/unpin are frequently used to 
 provide
 this sort of synchronization, we could use memory barriers in pin/unpin
 like so:

 sched_pin()
 {
       td->td_pinned = atomic_load_acq_int(&td->td_pinned) + 1;
 }

 sched_unpin()
 {
       atomic_store_rel_int(&td->td_pinned, td->td_pinned - 1);
 }

 We could also just use atomic_add_acq_int() and atomic_sub_rel_int(), but 
 they
 are slightly more heavyweight, though it would be more clear what is 
 happening
 I think.
>>>
>>> However, to actually get a race you'd have to have an interrupt fire and
>>> migrate you so that the speculative read was from the other CPU.  However, I
>>> don't think the speculative read would be preserved in that case.  The CPU
>>> has to return to a specific PC when it returns from the interrupt and it has
>>> no way of storing the state for what speculative reordering it might be
>>> doing, so presumably it is thrown away?  I suppose it is possible that it
>>> actually retires both instructions (but reordered) and then returns to the 
>>> PC
>>> value after the read of listlocks after the interrupt.  However, in that 
>>> case
>>> the scheduler would not migrate as it would see td_pinned != 0.  To get the
>>> race you have to have the interrupt take effect prior to modifying 
>>> td_pinned,
>>> so I think the processor would have to discard the reordered read of
>>> listlocks so it could safely resume execution at the 'incl' instruction.
>>>
>>> The other nit there on x86 at le

Re: sched_pin() versus PCPU_GET

2010-08-08 Thread Attilio Rao
2010/8/4  :
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:31 PM, John Baldwin  wrote:
>> On Friday, July 30, 2010 10:08:22 am John Baldwin wrote:
>>> On Thursday, July 29, 2010 7:39:02 pm m...@freebsd.org wrote:
>>> > We've seen a few instances at work where witness_warn() in ast()
>>> > indicates the sched lock is still held, but the place it claims it was
>>> > held by is in fact sometimes not possible to keep the lock, like:
>>> >
>>> >     thread_lock(td);
>>> >     td->td_flags &= ~TDF_SELECT;
>>> >     thread_unlock(td);
>>> >
>>> > What I was wondering is, even though the assembly I see in objdump -S
>>> > for witness_warn has the increment of td_pinned before the PCPU_GET:
>>> >
>>> > 802db210:   65 48 8b 1c 25 00 00    mov    %gs:0x0,%rbx
>>> > 802db217:   00 00
>>> > 802db219:   ff 83 04 01 00 00       incl   0x104(%rbx)
>>> >      * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread migration.
>>> >      * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
>>> >      * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
>>> >      */
>>> >     sched_pin();
>>> >     lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
>>> > 802db21f:   65 48 8b 04 25 48 00    mov    %gs:0x48,%rax
>>> > 802db226:   00 00
>>> >     if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
>>> > 802db228:   48 85 c0                test   %rax,%rax
>>> >      * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread migration.
>>> >      * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
>>> >      * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
>>> >      */
>>> >     sched_pin();
>>> >     lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
>>> > 802db22b:   48 89 85 f0 fe ff ff    mov    %rax,-0x110(%rbp)
>>> > 802db232:   48 89 85 f8 fe ff ff    mov    %rax,-0x108(%rbp)
>>> >     if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
>>> > 802db239:   0f 84 ff 00 00 00       je     802db33e
>>> > 
>>> > 802db23f:   44 8b 60 50             mov    0x50(%rax),%r12d
>>> >
>>> > is it possible for the hardware to do any re-ordering here?
>>> >
>>> > The reason I'm suspicious is not just that the code doesn't have a
>>> > lock leak at the indicated point, but in one instance I can see in the
>>> > dump that the lock_list local from witness_warn is from the pcpu
>>> > structure for CPU 0 (and I was warned about sched lock 0), but the
>>> > thread id in panic_cpu is 2.  So clearly the thread was being migrated
>>> > right around panic time.
>>> >
>>> > This is the amd64 kernel on stable/7.  I'm not sure exactly what kind
>>> > of hardware; it's a 4-way Intel chip from about 3 or 4 years ago IIRC.
>>> >
>>> > So... do we need some kind of barrier in the code for sched_pin() for
>>> > it to really do what it claims?  Could the hardware have re-ordered
>>> > the "mov    %gs:0x48,%rax" PCPU_GET to before the sched_pin()
>>> > increment?
>>>
>>> Hmmm, I think it might be able to because they refer to different locations.
>>>
>>> Note this rule in section 8.2.2 of Volume 3A:
>>>
>>>   • Reads may be reordered with older writes to different locations but not
>>>     with older writes to the same location.
>>>
>>> It is certainly true that sparc64 could reorder with RMO.  I believe ia64
>>> could reorder as well.  Since sched_pin/unpin are frequently used to provide
>>> this sort of synchronization, we could use memory barriers in pin/unpin
>>> like so:
>>>
>>> sched_pin()
>>> {
>>>       td->td_pinned = atomic_load_acq_int(&td->td_pinned) + 1;
>>> }
>>>
>>> sched_unpin()
>>> {
>>>       atomic_store_rel_int(&td->td_pinned, td->td_pinned - 1);
>>> }
>>>
>>> We could also just use atomic_add_acq_int() and atomic_sub_rel_int(), but 
>>> they
>>> are slightly more heavyweight, though it would be more clear what is 
>>> happening
>>> I think.
>>
>> However, to actually get a race you'd have to have an interrupt fire and
>> migrate you so that the speculative read was from the other CPU.  However, I
>> don't think the speculative read would be preserved in that case.  The CPU
>> has to return to a specific PC when it returns from the interrupt and it has
>> no way of storing the state for what speculative reordering it might be
>> doing, so presumably it is thrown away?  I suppose it is possible that it
>> actually retires both instructions (but reordered) and then returns to the PC
>> value after the read of listlocks after the interrupt.  However, in that case
>> the scheduler would not migrate as it would see td_pinned != 0.  To get the
>> race you have to have the interrupt take effect prior to modifying td_pinned,
>> so I think the processor would have to discard the reordered read of
>> listlocks so it could safely resume execution at the 'incl' instruction.
>>
>> The other nit there on x86 at least is that the incl instruction is doing
>> both a read and a write and another rule in the section 8.2.2 is this:
>>
>>  • Reads are not reordered with other reads.
>>
>> That wo

Re: sched_pin() versus PCPU_GET

2010-08-06 Thread Attilio Rao
2010/8/5 John Baldwin :
> On Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:59:37 am m...@freebsd.org wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:55 AM, John Baldwin  wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, August 04, 2010 12:20:31 pm m...@freebsd.org wrote:
>> >> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:26 PM, John Baldwin  wrote:
>> >> > On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 9:46:16 pm m...@freebsd.org wrote:
>> >> >> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:31 PM, John Baldwin  wrote:
>> >> >> > On Friday, July 30, 2010 10:08:22 am John Baldwin wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Thursday, July 29, 2010 7:39:02 pm m...@freebsd.org wrote:
>> >> >> >> > We've seen a few instances at work where witness_warn() in ast()
>> >> >> >> > indicates the sched lock is still held, but the place it claims
> it was
>> >> >> >> > held by is in fact sometimes not possible to keep the lock, like:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >     thread_lock(td);
>> >> >> >> >     td->td_flags &= ~TDF_SELECT;
>> >> >> >> >     thread_unlock(td);
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > What I was wondering is, even though the assembly I see in
> objdump -S
>> >> >> >> > for witness_warn has the increment of td_pinned before the
> PCPU_GET:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > 802db210:   65 48 8b 1c 25 00 00    mov    %gs:0x0,%rbx
>> >> >> >> > 802db217:   00 00
>> >> >> >> > 802db219:   ff 83 04 01 00 00       incl   0x104(%rbx)
>> >> >> >> >      * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread
> migration.
>> >> >> >> >      * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks
> ownership,
>> >> >> >> >      * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
>> >> >> >> >      */
>> >> >> >> >     sched_pin();
>> >> >> >> >     lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
>> >> >> >> > 802db21f:   65 48 8b 04 25 48 00    mov    %gs:0x48,%rax
>> >> >> >> > 802db226:   00 00
>> >> >> >> >     if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
>> >> >> >> > 802db228:   48 85 c0                test   %rax,%rax
>> >> >> >> >      * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread
> migration.
>> >> >> >> >      * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks
> ownership,
>> >> >> >> >      * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
>> >> >> >> >      */
>> >> >> >> >     sched_pin();
>> >> >> >> >     lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
>> >> >> >> > 802db22b:   48 89 85 f0 fe ff ff    mov
>  %rax,-0x110(%rbp)
>> >> >> >> > 802db232:   48 89 85 f8 fe ff ff    mov
>  %rax,-0x108(%rbp)
>> >> >> >> >     if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
>> >> >> >> > 802db239:   0f 84 ff 00 00 00       je
> 802db33e
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > 802db23f:   44 8b 60 50             mov    0x50(%rax),
> %r12d
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > is it possible for the hardware to do any re-ordering here?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > The reason I'm suspicious is not just that the code doesn't have
> a
>> >> >> >> > lock leak at the indicated point, but in one instance I can see
> in the
>> >> >> >> > dump that the lock_list local from witness_warn is from the pcpu
>> >> >> >> > structure for CPU 0 (and I was warned about sched lock 0), but
> the
>> >> >> >> > thread id in panic_cpu is 2.  So clearly the thread was being
> migrated
>> >> >> >> > right around panic time.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > This is the amd64 kernel on stable/7.  I'm not sure exactly what
> kind
>> >> >> >> > of hardware; it's a 4-way Intel chip from about 3 or 4 years ago
> IIRC.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > So... do we need some kind of barrier in the code for sched_pin()
> for
>> >> >> >> > it to really do what it claims?  Could the hardware have re-
> ordered
>> >> >> >> > the "mov    %gs:0x48,%rax" PCPU_GET to before the sched_pin()
>> >> >> >> > increment?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Hmmm, I think it might be able to because they refer to different
> locations.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Note this rule in section 8.2.2 of Volume 3A:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>   • Reads may be reordered with older writes to different locations
> but not
>> >> >> >>     with older writes to the same location.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> It is certainly true that sparc64 could reorder with RMO.  I
> believe ia64
>> >> >> >> could reorder as well.  Since sched_pin/unpin are frequently used
> to provide
>> >> >> >> this sort of synchronization, we could use memory barriers in
> pin/unpin
>> >> >> >> like so:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> sched_pin()
>> >> >> >> {
>> >> >> >>       td->td_pinned = atomic_load_acq_int(&td->td_pinned) + 1;
>> >> >> >> }
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> sched_unpin()
>> >> >> >> {
>> >> >> >>       atomic_store_rel_int(&td->td_pinned, td->td_pinned - 1);
>> >> >> >> }
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> We could also just use atomic_add_acq_int() and
> atomic_sub_rel_int(), but they
>> >> >> >> are slightly more heavyweight, though it would be more clear what
> is happening
>> >> >> >> I think.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > However, to actually get a race you'd have to have an interrupt fire
> and
>> >> >> > migrate you so that t

Re: sched_pin() versus PCPU_GET

2010-08-05 Thread mdf
>> (gdb) p panic_cpu
>> $9 = 2
>> (gdb) p dumptid
>> $12 = 100751
>> (gdb) p cpuhead.slh_first->pc_allcpu.sle_next->pc_curthread->td_tid
>> $14 = 100751
>>
>> (gdb) p *cpuhead.slh_first->pc_allcpu.sle_next
>> $6 = {
>>   pc_curthread = 0xff00716d6960,
>>   pc_cpuid = 2,
>>   pc_spinlocks = 0x80803198,
>>
>> (gdb) p lock_list
>> $2 = (struct lock_list_entry *) 0x80803fb0
>>
>> (gdb) p *cpuhead.slh_first->pc_allcpu.sle_next->pc_allcpu.sle_next-
>>pc_allcpu.sle_next
>> $8 = {
>>   pc_curthread = 0xff0005479960,
>>   pc_cpuid = 0,
>>   pc_spinlocks = 0x80803fb0,
>>
>> I.e. we're dumping on CPU 2, but the lock_list pointer that was saved
>> in the dump matches that of CPU 0.
>
> Can you print out the tid's for the two curthreads?  It's not impossible that
> the thread migrated after calling panic.  In fact we force threads to CPU 0
> during shutdown.

dumptid matches the pc_curthread for CPU 2 and is printed above.

The lock_list local variable matches the PCPU for CPU 0, which has tid:

(gdb) p 
cpuhead.slh_first->pc_allcpu.sle_next->pc_allcpu.sle_next->pc_allcpu.sle_next->pc_curthread->td_tid
$2 = 15

(gdb) p 
cpuhead.slh_first->pc_allcpu.sle_next->pc_allcpu.sle_next->pc_allcpu.sle_next->pc_curthread->td_proc->p_comm
$3 = "idle: cpu0\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000"

Note that lock_list->ll_count is now 0, but of course wasn't when we
panic'd.  Also, the panic message showed "exclusive spin mutex sched
lock 0 (sched lock) r = 0 (0x806cf640) locked @
/build/mnt/src/sys/kern/sys_generic.c:826"; i.e. the lock was for CPU
0 as well.  If we truly were returning to user space with that lock
held it would still be held and we'd still be on CPU 0.

Cheers,
matthew
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Re: sched_pin() versus PCPU_GET

2010-08-05 Thread John Baldwin
On Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:59:37 am m...@freebsd.org wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:55 AM, John Baldwin  wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 04, 2010 12:20:31 pm m...@freebsd.org wrote:
> >> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:26 PM, John Baldwin  wrote:
> >> > On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 9:46:16 pm m...@freebsd.org wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:31 PM, John Baldwin  wrote:
> >> >> > On Friday, July 30, 2010 10:08:22 am John Baldwin wrote:
> >> >> >> On Thursday, July 29, 2010 7:39:02 pm m...@freebsd.org wrote:
> >> >> >> > We've seen a few instances at work where witness_warn() in ast()
> >> >> >> > indicates the sched lock is still held, but the place it claims 
it was
> >> >> >> > held by is in fact sometimes not possible to keep the lock, like:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > thread_lock(td);
> >> >> >> > td->td_flags &= ~TDF_SELECT;
> >> >> >> > thread_unlock(td);
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > What I was wondering is, even though the assembly I see in 
objdump -S
> >> >> >> > for witness_warn has the increment of td_pinned before the 
PCPU_GET:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > 802db210:   65 48 8b 1c 25 00 00mov%gs:0x0,%rbx
> >> >> >> > 802db217:   00 00
> >> >> >> > 802db219:   ff 83 04 01 00 00   incl   0x104(%rbx)
> >> >> >> >  * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread 
migration.
> >> >> >> >  * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks 
ownership,
> >> >> >> >  * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
> >> >> >> >  */
> >> >> >> > sched_pin();
> >> >> >> > lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
> >> >> >> > 802db21f:   65 48 8b 04 25 48 00mov%gs:0x48,%rax
> >> >> >> > 802db226:   00 00
> >> >> >> > if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
> >> >> >> > 802db228:   48 85 c0test   %rax,%rax
> >> >> >> >  * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread 
migration.
> >> >> >> >  * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks 
ownership,
> >> >> >> >  * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
> >> >> >> >  */
> >> >> >> > sched_pin();
> >> >> >> > lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
> >> >> >> > 802db22b:   48 89 85 f0 fe ff ffmov   
 %rax,-0x110(%rbp)
> >> >> >> > 802db232:   48 89 85 f8 fe ff ffmov   
 %rax,-0x108(%rbp)
> >> >> >> > if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
> >> >> >> > 802db239:   0f 84 ff 00 00 00   je 
802db33e
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > 802db23f:   44 8b 60 50 mov0x50(%rax),
%r12d
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > is it possible for the hardware to do any re-ordering here?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The reason I'm suspicious is not just that the code doesn't have 
a
> >> >> >> > lock leak at the indicated point, but in one instance I can see 
in the
> >> >> >> > dump that the lock_list local from witness_warn is from the pcpu
> >> >> >> > structure for CPU 0 (and I was warned about sched lock 0), but 
the
> >> >> >> > thread id in panic_cpu is 2.  So clearly the thread was being 
migrated
> >> >> >> > right around panic time.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > This is the amd64 kernel on stable/7.  I'm not sure exactly what 
kind
> >> >> >> > of hardware; it's a 4-way Intel chip from about 3 or 4 years ago 
IIRC.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > So... do we need some kind of barrier in the code for sched_pin() 
for
> >> >> >> > it to really do what it claims?  Could the hardware have re-
ordered
> >> >> >> > the "mov%gs:0x48,%rax" PCPU_GET to before the sched_pin()
> >> >> >> > increment?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hmmm, I think it might be able to because they refer to different 
locations.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Note this rule in section 8.2.2 of Volume 3A:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>   • Reads may be reordered with older writes to different locations 
but not
> >> >> >> with older writes to the same location.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It is certainly true that sparc64 could reorder with RMO.  I 
believe ia64
> >> >> >> could reorder as well.  Since sched_pin/unpin are frequently used 
to provide
> >> >> >> this sort of synchronization, we could use memory barriers in 
pin/unpin
> >> >> >> like so:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> sched_pin()
> >> >> >> {
> >> >> >>   td->td_pinned = atomic_load_acq_int(&td->td_pinned) + 1;
> >> >> >> }
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> sched_unpin()
> >> >> >> {
> >> >> >>   atomic_store_rel_int(&td->td_pinned, td->td_pinned - 1);
> >> >> >> }
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> We could also just use atomic_add_acq_int() and 
atomic_sub_rel_int(), but they
> >> >> >> are slightly more heavyweight, though it would be more clear what 
is happening
> >> >> >> I think.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > However, to actually get a race you'd have to have an interrupt fire 
and
> >> >> > migrate you so that the speculative read was from the other CPU. 
 However, I
> >> >> > don't think the speculative read would be preserved in that case. 
 T

Re: sched_pin() versus PCPU_GET

2010-08-05 Thread John Baldwin
On Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:01:22 pm m...@freebsd.org wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:20 AM,   wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:26 PM, John Baldwin  wrote:
> >> Actually, I would beg to differ in that case.  If PCPU_GET(spinlocks)
> >> returns non-NULL, then it means that you hold a spin lock,
> >
> > ll_count is 0 for the "correct" pc_spinlocks and non-zero for the
> > "wrong" one, though.  So I think it can be non-NULL but the current
> > thread/CPU doesn't hold a spinlock.
> >
> > I don't believe we have any code in the NMI handler.  I'm on vacation
> > today so I'll check tomorrow.
> 
> I checked and ipi_nmi_handler() doesn't appear to have any local
> changes.  I assume that's where I should look?

The tricky bits are all in the assembly rather than in C, probably in 
exception.S.  However, if %gs were corrupt I would not expect it to point to 
another CPU's data, but garbage from userland.

-- 
John Baldwin
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Re: sched_pin() versus PCPU_GET

2010-08-05 Thread Kostik Belousov
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 09:01:22AM -0700, m...@freebsd.org wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:20 AM,   wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:26 PM, John Baldwin  wrote:
> >> Actually, I would beg to differ in that case.  If PCPU_GET(spinlocks)
> >> returns non-NULL, then it means that you hold a spin lock,
> >
> > ll_count is 0 for the "correct" pc_spinlocks and non-zero for the
> > "wrong" one, though.  So I think it can be non-NULL but the current
> > thread/CPU doesn't hold a spinlock.
> >
> > I don't believe we have any code in the NMI handler.  I'm on vacation
> > today so I'll check tomorrow.
> 
> I checked and ipi_nmi_handler() doesn't appear to have any local
> changes.  I assume that's where I should look?

I think that, in case you do not use hwpmc, you could add "iretq"
as the first instruction of the nmi handler in exception.S and see
whether the issue is reproducable.


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Re: sched_pin() versus PCPU_GET

2010-08-05 Thread mdf
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:20 AM,   wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:26 PM, John Baldwin  wrote:
>> Actually, I would beg to differ in that case.  If PCPU_GET(spinlocks)
>> returns non-NULL, then it means that you hold a spin lock,
>
> ll_count is 0 for the "correct" pc_spinlocks and non-zero for the
> "wrong" one, though.  So I think it can be non-NULL but the current
> thread/CPU doesn't hold a spinlock.
>
> I don't believe we have any code in the NMI handler.  I'm on vacation
> today so I'll check tomorrow.

I checked and ipi_nmi_handler() doesn't appear to have any local
changes.  I assume that's where I should look?

Thanks,
matthew
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Re: sched_pin() versus PCPU_GET

2010-08-05 Thread mdf
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:55 AM, John Baldwin  wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 04, 2010 12:20:31 pm m...@freebsd.org wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:26 PM, John Baldwin  wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 9:46:16 pm m...@freebsd.org wrote:
>> >> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:31 PM, John Baldwin  wrote:
>> >> > On Friday, July 30, 2010 10:08:22 am John Baldwin wrote:
>> >> >> On Thursday, July 29, 2010 7:39:02 pm m...@freebsd.org wrote:
>> >> >> > We've seen a few instances at work where witness_warn() in ast()
>> >> >> > indicates the sched lock is still held, but the place it claims it 
>> >> >> > was
>> >> >> > held by is in fact sometimes not possible to keep the lock, like:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >     thread_lock(td);
>> >> >> >     td->td_flags &= ~TDF_SELECT;
>> >> >> >     thread_unlock(td);
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > What I was wondering is, even though the assembly I see in objdump -S
>> >> >> > for witness_warn has the increment of td_pinned before the PCPU_GET:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 802db210:   65 48 8b 1c 25 00 00    mov    %gs:0x0,%rbx
>> >> >> > 802db217:   00 00
>> >> >> > 802db219:   ff 83 04 01 00 00       incl   0x104(%rbx)
>> >> >> >      * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread 
>> >> >> > migration.
>> >> >> >      * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
>> >> >> >      * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
>> >> >> >      */
>> >> >> >     sched_pin();
>> >> >> >     lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
>> >> >> > 802db21f:   65 48 8b 04 25 48 00    mov    %gs:0x48,%rax
>> >> >> > 802db226:   00 00
>> >> >> >     if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
>> >> >> > 802db228:   48 85 c0                test   %rax,%rax
>> >> >> >      * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread 
>> >> >> > migration.
>> >> >> >      * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
>> >> >> >      * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
>> >> >> >      */
>> >> >> >     sched_pin();
>> >> >> >     lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
>> >> >> > 802db22b:   48 89 85 f0 fe ff ff    mov    %rax,-0x110(%rbp)
>> >> >> > 802db232:   48 89 85 f8 fe ff ff    mov    %rax,-0x108(%rbp)
>> >> >> >     if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
>> >> >> > 802db239:   0f 84 ff 00 00 00       je     802db33e
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > 802db23f:   44 8b 60 50             mov    0x50(%rax),%r12d
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > is it possible for the hardware to do any re-ordering here?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The reason I'm suspicious is not just that the code doesn't have a
>> >> >> > lock leak at the indicated point, but in one instance I can see in 
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > dump that the lock_list local from witness_warn is from the pcpu
>> >> >> > structure for CPU 0 (and I was warned about sched lock 0), but the
>> >> >> > thread id in panic_cpu is 2.  So clearly the thread was being 
>> >> >> > migrated
>> >> >> > right around panic time.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > This is the amd64 kernel on stable/7.  I'm not sure exactly what kind
>> >> >> > of hardware; it's a 4-way Intel chip from about 3 or 4 years ago 
>> >> >> > IIRC.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So... do we need some kind of barrier in the code for sched_pin() for
>> >> >> > it to really do what it claims?  Could the hardware have re-ordered
>> >> >> > the "mov    %gs:0x48,%rax" PCPU_GET to before the sched_pin()
>> >> >> > increment?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hmmm, I think it might be able to because they refer to different 
>> >> >> locations.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Note this rule in section 8.2.2 of Volume 3A:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>   • Reads may be reordered with older writes to different locations 
>> >> >> but not
>> >> >>     with older writes to the same location.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It is certainly true that sparc64 could reorder with RMO.  I believe 
>> >> >> ia64
>> >> >> could reorder as well.  Since sched_pin/unpin are frequently used to 
>> >> >> provide
>> >> >> this sort of synchronization, we could use memory barriers in pin/unpin
>> >> >> like so:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> sched_pin()
>> >> >> {
>> >> >>       td->td_pinned = atomic_load_acq_int(&td->td_pinned) + 1;
>> >> >> }
>> >> >>
>> >> >> sched_unpin()
>> >> >> {
>> >> >>       atomic_store_rel_int(&td->td_pinned, td->td_pinned - 1);
>> >> >> }
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We could also just use atomic_add_acq_int() and atomic_sub_rel_int(), 
>> >> >> but they
>> >> >> are slightly more heavyweight, though it would be more clear what is 
>> >> >> happening
>> >> >> I think.
>> >> >
>> >> > However, to actually get a race you'd have to have an interrupt fire and
>> >> > migrate you so that the speculative read was from the other CPU.  
>> >> > However, I
>> >> > don't think the speculative read would be preserved in that case.  The 
>> >> > CPU
>> >> > has to return to a specific PC when it returns from the interrupt and 
>> >> > it has
>> >> > no way of stori

Re: sched_pin() versus PCPU_GET

2010-08-04 Thread John Baldwin
On Wednesday, August 04, 2010 12:20:31 pm m...@freebsd.org wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:26 PM, John Baldwin  wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 9:46:16 pm m...@freebsd.org wrote:
> >> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:31 PM, John Baldwin  wrote:
> >> > On Friday, July 30, 2010 10:08:22 am John Baldwin wrote:
> >> >> On Thursday, July 29, 2010 7:39:02 pm m...@freebsd.org wrote:
> >> >> > We've seen a few instances at work where witness_warn() in ast()
> >> >> > indicates the sched lock is still held, but the place it claims it was
> >> >> > held by is in fact sometimes not possible to keep the lock, like:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > thread_lock(td);
> >> >> > td->td_flags &= ~TDF_SELECT;
> >> >> > thread_unlock(td);
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What I was wondering is, even though the assembly I see in objdump -S
> >> >> > for witness_warn has the increment of td_pinned before the PCPU_GET:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 802db210:   65 48 8b 1c 25 00 00mov%gs:0x0,%rbx
> >> >> > 802db217:   00 00
> >> >> > 802db219:   ff 83 04 01 00 00   incl   0x104(%rbx)
> >> >> >  * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread 
> >> >> > migration.
> >> >> >  * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
> >> >> >  * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
> >> >> >  */
> >> >> > sched_pin();
> >> >> > lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
> >> >> > 802db21f:   65 48 8b 04 25 48 00mov%gs:0x48,%rax
> >> >> > 802db226:   00 00
> >> >> > if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
> >> >> > 802db228:   48 85 c0test   %rax,%rax
> >> >> >  * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread 
> >> >> > migration.
> >> >> >  * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
> >> >> >  * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
> >> >> >  */
> >> >> > sched_pin();
> >> >> > lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
> >> >> > 802db22b:   48 89 85 f0 fe ff ffmov%rax,-0x110(%rbp)
> >> >> > 802db232:   48 89 85 f8 fe ff ffmov%rax,-0x108(%rbp)
> >> >> > if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
> >> >> > 802db239:   0f 84 ff 00 00 00   je 802db33e
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 802db23f:   44 8b 60 50 mov0x50(%rax),%r12d
> >> >> >
> >> >> > is it possible for the hardware to do any re-ordering here?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The reason I'm suspicious is not just that the code doesn't have a
> >> >> > lock leak at the indicated point, but in one instance I can see in the
> >> >> > dump that the lock_list local from witness_warn is from the pcpu
> >> >> > structure for CPU 0 (and I was warned about sched lock 0), but the
> >> >> > thread id in panic_cpu is 2.  So clearly the thread was being migrated
> >> >> > right around panic time.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This is the amd64 kernel on stable/7.  I'm not sure exactly what kind
> >> >> > of hardware; it's a 4-way Intel chip from about 3 or 4 years ago IIRC.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So... do we need some kind of barrier in the code for sched_pin() for
> >> >> > it to really do what it claims?  Could the hardware have re-ordered
> >> >> > the "mov%gs:0x48,%rax" PCPU_GET to before the sched_pin()
> >> >> > increment?
> >> >>
> >> >> Hmmm, I think it might be able to because they refer to different 
> >> >> locations.
> >> >>
> >> >> Note this rule in section 8.2.2 of Volume 3A:
> >> >>
> >> >>   • Reads may be reordered with older writes to different locations but 
> >> >> not
> >> >> with older writes to the same location.
> >> >>
> >> >> It is certainly true that sparc64 could reorder with RMO.  I believe 
> >> >> ia64
> >> >> could reorder as well.  Since sched_pin/unpin are frequently used to 
> >> >> provide
> >> >> this sort of synchronization, we could use memory barriers in pin/unpin
> >> >> like so:
> >> >>
> >> >> sched_pin()
> >> >> {
> >> >>   td->td_pinned = atomic_load_acq_int(&td->td_pinned) + 1;
> >> >> }
> >> >>
> >> >> sched_unpin()
> >> >> {
> >> >>   atomic_store_rel_int(&td->td_pinned, td->td_pinned - 1);
> >> >> }
> >> >>
> >> >> We could also just use atomic_add_acq_int() and atomic_sub_rel_int(), 
> >> >> but they
> >> >> are slightly more heavyweight, though it would be more clear what is 
> >> >> happening
> >> >> I think.
> >> >
> >> > However, to actually get a race you'd have to have an interrupt fire and
> >> > migrate you so that the speculative read was from the other CPU.  
> >> > However, I
> >> > don't think the speculative read would be preserved in that case.  The 
> >> > CPU
> >> > has to return to a specific PC when it returns from the interrupt and it 
> >> > has
> >> > no way of storing the state for what speculative reordering it might be
> >> > doing, so presumably it is thrown away?  I suppose it is possible that it
> >> > actually retires both instructions (but reordered) and then 

Re: sched_pin() versus PCPU_GET

2010-08-04 Thread mdf
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:26 PM, John Baldwin  wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 9:46:16 pm m...@freebsd.org wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:31 PM, John Baldwin  wrote:
>> > On Friday, July 30, 2010 10:08:22 am John Baldwin wrote:
>> >> On Thursday, July 29, 2010 7:39:02 pm m...@freebsd.org wrote:
>> >> > We've seen a few instances at work where witness_warn() in ast()
>> >> > indicates the sched lock is still held, but the place it claims it was
>> >> > held by is in fact sometimes not possible to keep the lock, like:
>> >> >
>> >> >     thread_lock(td);
>> >> >     td->td_flags &= ~TDF_SELECT;
>> >> >     thread_unlock(td);
>> >> >
>> >> > What I was wondering is, even though the assembly I see in objdump -S
>> >> > for witness_warn has the increment of td_pinned before the PCPU_GET:
>> >> >
>> >> > 802db210:   65 48 8b 1c 25 00 00    mov    %gs:0x0,%rbx
>> >> > 802db217:   00 00
>> >> > 802db219:   ff 83 04 01 00 00       incl   0x104(%rbx)
>> >> >      * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread migration.
>> >> >      * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
>> >> >      * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
>> >> >      */
>> >> >     sched_pin();
>> >> >     lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
>> >> > 802db21f:   65 48 8b 04 25 48 00    mov    %gs:0x48,%rax
>> >> > 802db226:   00 00
>> >> >     if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
>> >> > 802db228:   48 85 c0                test   %rax,%rax
>> >> >      * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread migration.
>> >> >      * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
>> >> >      * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
>> >> >      */
>> >> >     sched_pin();
>> >> >     lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
>> >> > 802db22b:   48 89 85 f0 fe ff ff    mov    %rax,-0x110(%rbp)
>> >> > 802db232:   48 89 85 f8 fe ff ff    mov    %rax,-0x108(%rbp)
>> >> >     if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
>> >> > 802db239:   0f 84 ff 00 00 00       je     802db33e
>> >> > 
>> >> > 802db23f:   44 8b 60 50             mov    0x50(%rax),%r12d
>> >> >
>> >> > is it possible for the hardware to do any re-ordering here?
>> >> >
>> >> > The reason I'm suspicious is not just that the code doesn't have a
>> >> > lock leak at the indicated point, but in one instance I can see in the
>> >> > dump that the lock_list local from witness_warn is from the pcpu
>> >> > structure for CPU 0 (and I was warned about sched lock 0), but the
>> >> > thread id in panic_cpu is 2.  So clearly the thread was being migrated
>> >> > right around panic time.
>> >> >
>> >> > This is the amd64 kernel on stable/7.  I'm not sure exactly what kind
>> >> > of hardware; it's a 4-way Intel chip from about 3 or 4 years ago IIRC.
>> >> >
>> >> > So... do we need some kind of barrier in the code for sched_pin() for
>> >> > it to really do what it claims?  Could the hardware have re-ordered
>> >> > the "mov    %gs:0x48,%rax" PCPU_GET to before the sched_pin()
>> >> > increment?
>> >>
>> >> Hmmm, I think it might be able to because they refer to different 
>> >> locations.
>> >>
>> >> Note this rule in section 8.2.2 of Volume 3A:
>> >>
>> >>   • Reads may be reordered with older writes to different locations but 
>> >> not
>> >>     with older writes to the same location.
>> >>
>> >> It is certainly true that sparc64 could reorder with RMO.  I believe ia64
>> >> could reorder as well.  Since sched_pin/unpin are frequently used to 
>> >> provide
>> >> this sort of synchronization, we could use memory barriers in pin/unpin
>> >> like so:
>> >>
>> >> sched_pin()
>> >> {
>> >>       td->td_pinned = atomic_load_acq_int(&td->td_pinned) + 1;
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >> sched_unpin()
>> >> {
>> >>       atomic_store_rel_int(&td->td_pinned, td->td_pinned - 1);
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >> We could also just use atomic_add_acq_int() and atomic_sub_rel_int(), but 
>> >> they
>> >> are slightly more heavyweight, though it would be more clear what is 
>> >> happening
>> >> I think.
>> >
>> > However, to actually get a race you'd have to have an interrupt fire and
>> > migrate you so that the speculative read was from the other CPU.  However, 
>> > I
>> > don't think the speculative read would be preserved in that case.  The CPU
>> > has to return to a specific PC when it returns from the interrupt and it 
>> > has
>> > no way of storing the state for what speculative reordering it might be
>> > doing, so presumably it is thrown away?  I suppose it is possible that it
>> > actually retires both instructions (but reordered) and then returns to the 
>> > PC
>> > value after the read of listlocks after the interrupt.  However, in that 
>> > case
>> > the scheduler would not migrate as it would see td_pinned != 0.  To get the
>> > race you have to have the interrupt take effect prior to modifying 
>> > td_pinned,
>> > so I think the 

Re: sched_pin() versus PCPU_GET

2010-08-04 Thread John Baldwin
On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 9:46:16 pm m...@freebsd.org wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:31 PM, John Baldwin  wrote:
> > On Friday, July 30, 2010 10:08:22 am John Baldwin wrote:
> >> On Thursday, July 29, 2010 7:39:02 pm m...@freebsd.org wrote:
> >> > We've seen a few instances at work where witness_warn() in ast()
> >> > indicates the sched lock is still held, but the place it claims it was
> >> > held by is in fact sometimes not possible to keep the lock, like:
> >> >
> >> > thread_lock(td);
> >> > td->td_flags &= ~TDF_SELECT;
> >> > thread_unlock(td);
> >> >
> >> > What I was wondering is, even though the assembly I see in objdump -S
> >> > for witness_warn has the increment of td_pinned before the PCPU_GET:
> >> >
> >> > 802db210:   65 48 8b 1c 25 00 00mov%gs:0x0,%rbx
> >> > 802db217:   00 00
> >> > 802db219:   ff 83 04 01 00 00   incl   0x104(%rbx)
> >> >  * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread migration.
> >> >  * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
> >> >  * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
> >> >  */
> >> > sched_pin();
> >> > lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
> >> > 802db21f:   65 48 8b 04 25 48 00mov%gs:0x48,%rax
> >> > 802db226:   00 00
> >> > if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
> >> > 802db228:   48 85 c0test   %rax,%rax
> >> >  * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread migration.
> >> >  * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
> >> >  * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
> >> >  */
> >> > sched_pin();
> >> > lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
> >> > 802db22b:   48 89 85 f0 fe ff ffmov%rax,-0x110(%rbp)
> >> > 802db232:   48 89 85 f8 fe ff ffmov%rax,-0x108(%rbp)
> >> > if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
> >> > 802db239:   0f 84 ff 00 00 00   je 802db33e
> >> > 
> >> > 802db23f:   44 8b 60 50 mov0x50(%rax),%r12d
> >> >
> >> > is it possible for the hardware to do any re-ordering here?
> >> >
> >> > The reason I'm suspicious is not just that the code doesn't have a
> >> > lock leak at the indicated point, but in one instance I can see in the
> >> > dump that the lock_list local from witness_warn is from the pcpu
> >> > structure for CPU 0 (and I was warned about sched lock 0), but the
> >> > thread id in panic_cpu is 2.  So clearly the thread was being migrated
> >> > right around panic time.
> >> >
> >> > This is the amd64 kernel on stable/7.  I'm not sure exactly what kind
> >> > of hardware; it's a 4-way Intel chip from about 3 or 4 years ago IIRC.
> >> >
> >> > So... do we need some kind of barrier in the code for sched_pin() for
> >> > it to really do what it claims?  Could the hardware have re-ordered
> >> > the "mov%gs:0x48,%rax" PCPU_GET to before the sched_pin()
> >> > increment?
> >>
> >> Hmmm, I think it might be able to because they refer to different 
> >> locations.
> >>
> >> Note this rule in section 8.2.2 of Volume 3A:
> >>
> >>   • Reads may be reordered with older writes to different locations but not
> >> with older writes to the same location.
> >>
> >> It is certainly true that sparc64 could reorder with RMO.  I believe ia64
> >> could reorder as well.  Since sched_pin/unpin are frequently used to 
> >> provide
> >> this sort of synchronization, we could use memory barriers in pin/unpin
> >> like so:
> >>
> >> sched_pin()
> >> {
> >>   td->td_pinned = atomic_load_acq_int(&td->td_pinned) + 1;
> >> }
> >>
> >> sched_unpin()
> >> {
> >>   atomic_store_rel_int(&td->td_pinned, td->td_pinned - 1);
> >> }
> >>
> >> We could also just use atomic_add_acq_int() and atomic_sub_rel_int(), but 
> >> they
> >> are slightly more heavyweight, though it would be more clear what is 
> >> happening
> >> I think.
> >
> > However, to actually get a race you'd have to have an interrupt fire and
> > migrate you so that the speculative read was from the other CPU.  However, I
> > don't think the speculative read would be preserved in that case.  The CPU
> > has to return to a specific PC when it returns from the interrupt and it has
> > no way of storing the state for what speculative reordering it might be
> > doing, so presumably it is thrown away?  I suppose it is possible that it
> > actually retires both instructions (but reordered) and then returns to the 
> > PC
> > value after the read of listlocks after the interrupt.  However, in that 
> > case
> > the scheduler would not migrate as it would see td_pinned != 0.  To get the
> > race you have to have the interrupt take effect prior to modifying 
> > td_pinned,
> > so I think the processor would have to discard the reordered read of
> > listlocks so it could safely resume execution at the 'incl' instruction.
> >
> > The other nit there on x86 at least 

Re: sched_pin() versus PCPU_GET

2010-08-03 Thread mdf
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:31 PM, John Baldwin  wrote:
> On Friday, July 30, 2010 10:08:22 am John Baldwin wrote:
>> On Thursday, July 29, 2010 7:39:02 pm m...@freebsd.org wrote:
>> > We've seen a few instances at work where witness_warn() in ast()
>> > indicates the sched lock is still held, but the place it claims it was
>> > held by is in fact sometimes not possible to keep the lock, like:
>> >
>> >     thread_lock(td);
>> >     td->td_flags &= ~TDF_SELECT;
>> >     thread_unlock(td);
>> >
>> > What I was wondering is, even though the assembly I see in objdump -S
>> > for witness_warn has the increment of td_pinned before the PCPU_GET:
>> >
>> > 802db210:   65 48 8b 1c 25 00 00    mov    %gs:0x0,%rbx
>> > 802db217:   00 00
>> > 802db219:   ff 83 04 01 00 00       incl   0x104(%rbx)
>> >      * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread migration.
>> >      * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
>> >      * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
>> >      */
>> >     sched_pin();
>> >     lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
>> > 802db21f:   65 48 8b 04 25 48 00    mov    %gs:0x48,%rax
>> > 802db226:   00 00
>> >     if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
>> > 802db228:   48 85 c0                test   %rax,%rax
>> >      * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread migration.
>> >      * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
>> >      * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
>> >      */
>> >     sched_pin();
>> >     lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
>> > 802db22b:   48 89 85 f0 fe ff ff    mov    %rax,-0x110(%rbp)
>> > 802db232:   48 89 85 f8 fe ff ff    mov    %rax,-0x108(%rbp)
>> >     if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
>> > 802db239:   0f 84 ff 00 00 00       je     802db33e
>> > 
>> > 802db23f:   44 8b 60 50             mov    0x50(%rax),%r12d
>> >
>> > is it possible for the hardware to do any re-ordering here?
>> >
>> > The reason I'm suspicious is not just that the code doesn't have a
>> > lock leak at the indicated point, but in one instance I can see in the
>> > dump that the lock_list local from witness_warn is from the pcpu
>> > structure for CPU 0 (and I was warned about sched lock 0), but the
>> > thread id in panic_cpu is 2.  So clearly the thread was being migrated
>> > right around panic time.
>> >
>> > This is the amd64 kernel on stable/7.  I'm not sure exactly what kind
>> > of hardware; it's a 4-way Intel chip from about 3 or 4 years ago IIRC.
>> >
>> > So... do we need some kind of barrier in the code for sched_pin() for
>> > it to really do what it claims?  Could the hardware have re-ordered
>> > the "mov    %gs:0x48,%rax" PCPU_GET to before the sched_pin()
>> > increment?
>>
>> Hmmm, I think it might be able to because they refer to different locations.
>>
>> Note this rule in section 8.2.2 of Volume 3A:
>>
>>   • Reads may be reordered with older writes to different locations but not
>>     with older writes to the same location.
>>
>> It is certainly true that sparc64 could reorder with RMO.  I believe ia64
>> could reorder as well.  Since sched_pin/unpin are frequently used to provide
>> this sort of synchronization, we could use memory barriers in pin/unpin
>> like so:
>>
>> sched_pin()
>> {
>>       td->td_pinned = atomic_load_acq_int(&td->td_pinned) + 1;
>> }
>>
>> sched_unpin()
>> {
>>       atomic_store_rel_int(&td->td_pinned, td->td_pinned - 1);
>> }
>>
>> We could also just use atomic_add_acq_int() and atomic_sub_rel_int(), but 
>> they
>> are slightly more heavyweight, though it would be more clear what is 
>> happening
>> I think.
>
> However, to actually get a race you'd have to have an interrupt fire and
> migrate you so that the speculative read was from the other CPU.  However, I
> don't think the speculative read would be preserved in that case.  The CPU
> has to return to a specific PC when it returns from the interrupt and it has
> no way of storing the state for what speculative reordering it might be
> doing, so presumably it is thrown away?  I suppose it is possible that it
> actually retires both instructions (but reordered) and then returns to the PC
> value after the read of listlocks after the interrupt.  However, in that case
> the scheduler would not migrate as it would see td_pinned != 0.  To get the
> race you have to have the interrupt take effect prior to modifying td_pinned,
> so I think the processor would have to discard the reordered read of
> listlocks so it could safely resume execution at the 'incl' instruction.
>
> The other nit there on x86 at least is that the incl instruction is doing
> both a read and a write and another rule in the section 8.2.2 is this:
>
>  • Reads are not reordered with other reads.
>
> That would seem to prevent the read of listlocks from passing the read of
> td_pinned in the incl instruction on x86.

I won

Re: sched_pin() versus PCPU_GET

2010-07-30 Thread John Baldwin
On Friday, July 30, 2010 10:08:22 am John Baldwin wrote:
> On Thursday, July 29, 2010 7:39:02 pm m...@freebsd.org wrote:
> > We've seen a few instances at work where witness_warn() in ast()
> > indicates the sched lock is still held, but the place it claims it was
> > held by is in fact sometimes not possible to keep the lock, like:
> > 
> > thread_lock(td);
> > td->td_flags &= ~TDF_SELECT;
> > thread_unlock(td);
> > 
> > What I was wondering is, even though the assembly I see in objdump -S
> > for witness_warn has the increment of td_pinned before the PCPU_GET:
> > 
> > 802db210:   65 48 8b 1c 25 00 00mov%gs:0x0,%rbx
> > 802db217:   00 00
> > 802db219:   ff 83 04 01 00 00   incl   0x104(%rbx)
> >  * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread migration.
> >  * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
> >  * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
> >  */
> > sched_pin();
> > lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
> > 802db21f:   65 48 8b 04 25 48 00mov%gs:0x48,%rax
> > 802db226:   00 00
> > if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
> > 802db228:   48 85 c0test   %rax,%rax
> >  * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread migration.
> >  * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
> >  * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
> >  */
> > sched_pin();
> > lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
> > 802db22b:   48 89 85 f0 fe ff ffmov%rax,-0x110(%rbp)
> > 802db232:   48 89 85 f8 fe ff ffmov%rax,-0x108(%rbp)
> > if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
> > 802db239:   0f 84 ff 00 00 00   je 802db33e
> > 
> > 802db23f:   44 8b 60 50 mov0x50(%rax),%r12d
> > 
> > is it possible for the hardware to do any re-ordering here?
> > 
> > The reason I'm suspicious is not just that the code doesn't have a
> > lock leak at the indicated point, but in one instance I can see in the
> > dump that the lock_list local from witness_warn is from the pcpu
> > structure for CPU 0 (and I was warned about sched lock 0), but the
> > thread id in panic_cpu is 2.  So clearly the thread was being migrated
> > right around panic time.
> > 
> > This is the amd64 kernel on stable/7.  I'm not sure exactly what kind
> > of hardware; it's a 4-way Intel chip from about 3 or 4 years ago IIRC.
> > 
> > So... do we need some kind of barrier in the code for sched_pin() for
> > it to really do what it claims?  Could the hardware have re-ordered
> > the "mov%gs:0x48,%rax" PCPU_GET to before the sched_pin()
> > increment?
> 
> Hmmm, I think it might be able to because they refer to different locations.
> 
> Note this rule in section 8.2.2 of Volume 3A:
> 
>   • Reads may be reordered with older writes to different locations but not
> with older writes to the same location.
> 
> It is certainly true that sparc64 could reorder with RMO.  I believe ia64 
> could reorder as well.  Since sched_pin/unpin are frequently used to provide 
> this sort of synchronization, we could use memory barriers in pin/unpin
> like so:
> 
> sched_pin()
> {
>   td->td_pinned = atomic_load_acq_int(&td->td_pinned) + 1;
> }
> 
> sched_unpin()
> {
>   atomic_store_rel_int(&td->td_pinned, td->td_pinned - 1);
> }
> 
> We could also just use atomic_add_acq_int() and atomic_sub_rel_int(), but 
> they 
> are slightly more heavyweight, though it would be more clear what is 
> happening 
> I think.

However, to actually get a race you'd have to have an interrupt fire and
migrate you so that the speculative read was from the other CPU.  However, I
don't think the speculative read would be preserved in that case.  The CPU
has to return to a specific PC when it returns from the interrupt and it has
no way of storing the state for what speculative reordering it might be
doing, so presumably it is thrown away?  I suppose it is possible that it
actually retires both instructions (but reordered) and then returns to the PC
value after the read of listlocks after the interrupt.  However, in that case
the scheduler would not migrate as it would see td_pinned != 0.  To get the
race you have to have the interrupt take effect prior to modifying td_pinned,
so I think the processor would have to discard the reordered read of
listlocks so it could safely resume execution at the 'incl' instruction.

The other nit there on x86 at least is that the incl instruction is doing
both a read and a write and another rule in the section 8.2.2 is this:

  • Reads are not reordered with other reads.

That would seem to prevent the read of listlocks from passing the read of
td_pinned in the incl instruction on x86.

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Re: sched_pin() versus PCPU_GET

2010-07-30 Thread John Baldwin
On Thursday, July 29, 2010 7:39:02 pm m...@freebsd.org wrote:
> We've seen a few instances at work where witness_warn() in ast()
> indicates the sched lock is still held, but the place it claims it was
> held by is in fact sometimes not possible to keep the lock, like:
> 
>   thread_lock(td);
>   td->td_flags &= ~TDF_SELECT;
>   thread_unlock(td);
> 
> What I was wondering is, even though the assembly I see in objdump -S
> for witness_warn has the increment of td_pinned before the PCPU_GET:
> 
> 802db210: 65 48 8b 1c 25 00 00mov%gs:0x0,%rbx
> 802db217: 00 00
> 802db219: ff 83 04 01 00 00   incl   0x104(%rbx)
>* Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread migration.
>* Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
>* the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
>*/
>   sched_pin();
>   lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
> 802db21f: 65 48 8b 04 25 48 00mov%gs:0x48,%rax
> 802db226: 00 00
>   if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
> 802db228: 48 85 c0test   %rax,%rax
>* Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread migration.
>* Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
>* the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
>*/
>   sched_pin();
>   lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
> 802db22b: 48 89 85 f0 fe ff ffmov%rax,-0x110(%rbp)
> 802db232: 48 89 85 f8 fe ff ffmov%rax,-0x108(%rbp)
>   if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
> 802db239: 0f 84 ff 00 00 00   je 802db33e
> 
> 802db23f: 44 8b 60 50 mov0x50(%rax),%r12d
> 
> is it possible for the hardware to do any re-ordering here?
> 
> The reason I'm suspicious is not just that the code doesn't have a
> lock leak at the indicated point, but in one instance I can see in the
> dump that the lock_list local from witness_warn is from the pcpu
> structure for CPU 0 (and I was warned about sched lock 0), but the
> thread id in panic_cpu is 2.  So clearly the thread was being migrated
> right around panic time.
> 
> This is the amd64 kernel on stable/7.  I'm not sure exactly what kind
> of hardware; it's a 4-way Intel chip from about 3 or 4 years ago IIRC.
> 
> So... do we need some kind of barrier in the code for sched_pin() for
> it to really do what it claims?  Could the hardware have re-ordered
> the "mov%gs:0x48,%rax" PCPU_GET to before the sched_pin()
> increment?

Hmmm, I think it might be able to because they refer to different locations.

Note this rule in section 8.2.2 of Volume 3A:

  • Reads may be reordered with older writes to different locations but not
with older writes to the same location.

It is certainly true that sparc64 could reorder with RMO.  I believe ia64 
could reorder as well.  Since sched_pin/unpin are frequently used to provide 
this sort of synchronization, we could use memory barriers in pin/unpin
like so:

sched_pin()
{
td->td_pinned = atomic_load_acq_int(&td->td_pinned) + 1;
}

sched_unpin()
{
atomic_store_rel_int(&td->td_pinned, td->td_pinned - 1);
}

We could also just use atomic_add_acq_int() and atomic_sub_rel_int(), but they 
are slightly more heavyweight, though it would be more clear what is happening 
I think.

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Re: sched_pin() versus PCPU_GET

2010-07-30 Thread mdf
2010/7/30 Kostik Belousov :
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 04:57:25PM -0700, m...@freebsd.org wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 4:39 PM,   wrote:
>> > We've seen a few instances at work where witness_warn() in ast()
>> > indicates the sched lock is still held, but the place it claims it was
>> > held by is in fact sometimes not possible to keep the lock, like:
>> >
>> >        thread_lock(td);
>> >        td->td_flags &= ~TDF_SELECT;
>> >        thread_unlock(td);
>> >
>> > What I was wondering is, even though the assembly I see in objdump -S
>> > for witness_warn has the increment of td_pinned before the PCPU_GET:
>> >
>> > 802db210:       65 48 8b 1c 25 00 00    mov    %gs:0x0,%rbx
>> > 802db217:       00 00
>> > 802db219:       ff 83 04 01 00 00       incl   0x104(%rbx)
>> >         * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread migration.
>> >         * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
>> >         * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
>> >         */
>> >        sched_pin();
>> >        lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
>> > 802db21f:       65 48 8b 04 25 48 00    mov    %gs:0x48,%rax
>> > 802db226:       00 00
>> >        if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
>> > 802db228:       48 85 c0                test   %rax,%rax
>> >         * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread migration.
>> >         * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
>> >         * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
>> >         */
>> >        sched_pin();
>> >        lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
>> > 802db22b:       48 89 85 f0 fe ff ff    mov    %rax,-0x110(%rbp)
>> > 802db232:       48 89 85 f8 fe ff ff    mov    %rax,-0x108(%rbp)
>> >        if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
>> > 802db239:       0f 84 ff 00 00 00       je     802db33e
>> > 
>> > 802db23f:       44 8b 60 50             mov    0x50(%rax),%r12d
>> >
>> > is it possible for the hardware to do any re-ordering here?
>> >
>> > The reason I'm suspicious is not just that the code doesn't have a
>> > lock leak at the indicated point, but in one instance I can see in the
>> > dump that the lock_list local from witness_warn is from the pcpu
>> > structure for CPU 0 (and I was warned about sched lock 0), but the
>> > thread id in panic_cpu is 2.  So clearly the thread was being migrated
>> > right around panic time.
>> >
>> > This is the amd64 kernel on stable/7.  I'm not sure exactly what kind
>> > of hardware; it's a 4-way Intel chip from about 3 or 4 years ago IIRC.
>> >
>> > So... do we need some kind of barrier in the code for sched_pin() for
>> > it to really do what it claims?  Could the hardware have re-ordered
>> > the "mov    %gs:0x48,%rax" PCPU_GET to before the sched_pin()
>> > increment?
>>
>> So after some research, the answer I'm getting is "maybe".  What I'm
>> concerned about is whether the h/w reordered the read of PCPU_GET in
>> front of the previous store to increment td_pinned.  While not an
>> ultimate authority,
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_ordering#In_SMP_microprocessor_systems
>> implies that stores can be reordered after loads for both Intel and
>> amd64 chips, which would I believe account for the behavior seen here.
>
> Am I right that you suggest that in the sequence
>        mov     %gs:0x0,%rbx      [1]
>        incl    0x104(%rbx)       [2]
>        mov     %gs:0x48,%rax     [3]
> interrupt and preemption happen between points [2] and [3] ?
> And the %rax value after the thread was put back onto the (different) new
> CPU and executed [3] was still from the old cpu' pcpu area ?

Right, but I'm also asking if it's possible the hardware executed the
instructions as:

        mov     %gs:0x0,%rbx      [1]
        mov     %gs:0x48,%rax     [3]
        incl    0x104(%rbx)       [2]

On PowerPC this is definitely possible and I'd use an isync to prevent
the re-ordering.  I haven't been able to confirm that Intel/AMD
present such a strict ordering that no barrier is needed.

It's admittedly a very tight window, and we've only seen it twice, but
I have no other way to explain the symptom.  Unfortunately in the dump
gdb shows both %rax and %gs as 0, so I can't confirm that they had a
value I'd expect from another CPU.  The only thing I do have is
panic_cpu being different than the CPU at the time of
PCPU_GET(spinlock), but of course there's definitely a window there.

> I do not believe this is possible. CPU is always self-consistent. Context
> switch from the thread can only occur on the return from interrupt
> handler, in critical_exit() or such. This code is executing on the
> same processor, and thus should already see the effect of [2], that
> would prevent context switch.

Right, but if the hardware allowed reads to pass writes, then %rax
would have an incorrect value which would be saved at interrupt time,
and

Re: sched_pin() versus PCPU_GET

2010-07-30 Thread Kostik Belousov
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 04:57:25PM -0700, m...@freebsd.org wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 4:39 PM,   wrote:
> > We've seen a few instances at work where witness_warn() in ast()
> > indicates the sched lock is still held, but the place it claims it was
> > held by is in fact sometimes not possible to keep the lock, like:
> >
> >        thread_lock(td);
> >        td->td_flags &= ~TDF_SELECT;
> >        thread_unlock(td);
> >
> > What I was wondering is, even though the assembly I see in objdump -S
> > for witness_warn has the increment of td_pinned before the PCPU_GET:
> >
> > 802db210:       65 48 8b 1c 25 00 00    mov    %gs:0x0,%rbx
> > 802db217:       00 00
> > 802db219:       ff 83 04 01 00 00       incl   0x104(%rbx)
> >         * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread migration.
> >         * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
> >         * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
> >         */
> >        sched_pin();
> >        lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
> > 802db21f:       65 48 8b 04 25 48 00    mov    %gs:0x48,%rax
> > 802db226:       00 00
> >        if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
> > 802db228:       48 85 c0                test   %rax,%rax
> >         * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread migration.
> >         * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
> >         * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
> >         */
> >        sched_pin();
> >        lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
> > 802db22b:       48 89 85 f0 fe ff ff    mov    %rax,-0x110(%rbp)
> > 802db232:       48 89 85 f8 fe ff ff    mov    %rax,-0x108(%rbp)
> >        if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
> > 802db239:       0f 84 ff 00 00 00       je     802db33e
> > 
> > 802db23f:       44 8b 60 50             mov    0x50(%rax),%r12d
> >
> > is it possible for the hardware to do any re-ordering here?
> >
> > The reason I'm suspicious is not just that the code doesn't have a
> > lock leak at the indicated point, but in one instance I can see in the
> > dump that the lock_list local from witness_warn is from the pcpu
> > structure for CPU 0 (and I was warned about sched lock 0), but the
> > thread id in panic_cpu is 2.  So clearly the thread was being migrated
> > right around panic time.
> >
> > This is the amd64 kernel on stable/7.  I'm not sure exactly what kind
> > of hardware; it's a 4-way Intel chip from about 3 or 4 years ago IIRC.
> >
> > So... do we need some kind of barrier in the code for sched_pin() for
> > it to really do what it claims?  Could the hardware have re-ordered
> > the "mov    %gs:0x48,%rax" PCPU_GET to before the sched_pin()
> > increment?
> 
> So after some research, the answer I'm getting is "maybe".  What I'm
> concerned about is whether the h/w reordered the read of PCPU_GET in
> front of the previous store to increment td_pinned.  While not an
> ultimate authority,
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_ordering#In_SMP_microprocessor_systems
> implies that stores can be reordered after loads for both Intel and
> amd64 chips, which would I believe account for the behavior seen here.
> 

Am I right that you suggest that in the sequence
mov %gs:0x0,%rbx  [1]
incl0x104(%rbx)   [2]
mov %gs:0x48,%rax [3]
interrupt and preemption happen between points [2] and [3] ?
And the %rax value after the thread was put back onto the (different) new
CPU and executed [3] was still from the old cpu' pcpu area ?

I do not believe this is possible. CPU is always self-consistent. Context
switch from the thread can only occur on the return from interrupt
handler, in critical_exit() or such. This code is executing on the
same processor, and thus should already see the effect of [2], that
would prevent context switch.

If interrupt happens between [1] and [2], then context saving code
should still see the consistent view of the register file state,
regardless of the processor issuing speculative read of
*%gs:0x48. Return from the interrupt is the serialization point due to
iret, causing read in [3] to be reissued.



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Re: sched_pin() versus PCPU_GET

2010-07-29 Thread mdf
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 4:39 PM,   wrote:
> We've seen a few instances at work where witness_warn() in ast()
> indicates the sched lock is still held, but the place it claims it was
> held by is in fact sometimes not possible to keep the lock, like:
>
>        thread_lock(td);
>        td->td_flags &= ~TDF_SELECT;
>        thread_unlock(td);
>
> What I was wondering is, even though the assembly I see in objdump -S
> for witness_warn has the increment of td_pinned before the PCPU_GET:
>
> 802db210:       65 48 8b 1c 25 00 00    mov    %gs:0x0,%rbx
> 802db217:       00 00
> 802db219:       ff 83 04 01 00 00       incl   0x104(%rbx)
>         * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread migration.
>         * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
>         * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
>         */
>        sched_pin();
>        lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
> 802db21f:       65 48 8b 04 25 48 00    mov    %gs:0x48,%rax
> 802db226:       00 00
>        if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
> 802db228:       48 85 c0                test   %rax,%rax
>         * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread migration.
>         * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
>         * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
>         */
>        sched_pin();
>        lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
> 802db22b:       48 89 85 f0 fe ff ff    mov    %rax,-0x110(%rbp)
> 802db232:       48 89 85 f8 fe ff ff    mov    %rax,-0x108(%rbp)
>        if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
> 802db239:       0f 84 ff 00 00 00       je     802db33e
> 
> 802db23f:       44 8b 60 50             mov    0x50(%rax),%r12d
>
> is it possible for the hardware to do any re-ordering here?
>
> The reason I'm suspicious is not just that the code doesn't have a
> lock leak at the indicated point, but in one instance I can see in the
> dump that the lock_list local from witness_warn is from the pcpu
> structure for CPU 0 (and I was warned about sched lock 0), but the
> thread id in panic_cpu is 2.  So clearly the thread was being migrated
> right around panic time.
>
> This is the amd64 kernel on stable/7.  I'm not sure exactly what kind
> of hardware; it's a 4-way Intel chip from about 3 or 4 years ago IIRC.
>
> So... do we need some kind of barrier in the code for sched_pin() for
> it to really do what it claims?  Could the hardware have re-ordered
> the "mov    %gs:0x48,%rax" PCPU_GET to before the sched_pin()
> increment?

So after some research, the answer I'm getting is "maybe".  What I'm
concerned about is whether the h/w reordered the read of PCPU_GET in
front of the previous store to increment td_pinned.  While not an
ultimate authority,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_ordering#In_SMP_microprocessor_systems
implies that stores can be reordered after loads for both Intel and
amd64 chips, which would I believe account for the behavior seen here.

Thanks,
matthew
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sched_pin() versus PCPU_GET

2010-07-29 Thread mdf
We've seen a few instances at work where witness_warn() in ast()
indicates the sched lock is still held, but the place it claims it was
held by is in fact sometimes not possible to keep the lock, like:

thread_lock(td);
td->td_flags &= ~TDF_SELECT;
thread_unlock(td);

What I was wondering is, even though the assembly I see in objdump -S
for witness_warn has the increment of td_pinned before the PCPU_GET:

802db210:   65 48 8b 1c 25 00 00mov%gs:0x0,%rbx
802db217:   00 00
802db219:   ff 83 04 01 00 00   incl   0x104(%rbx)
 * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread migration.
 * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
 * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
 */
sched_pin();
lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
802db21f:   65 48 8b 04 25 48 00mov%gs:0x48,%rax
802db226:   00 00
if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
802db228:   48 85 c0test   %rax,%rax
 * Pin the thread in order to avoid problems with thread migration.
 * Once that all verifies are passed about spinlocks ownership,
 * the thread is in a safe path and it can be unpinned.
 */
sched_pin();
lock_list = PCPU_GET(spinlocks);
802db22b:   48 89 85 f0 fe ff ffmov%rax,-0x110(%rbp)
802db232:   48 89 85 f8 fe ff ffmov%rax,-0x108(%rbp)
if (lock_list != NULL && lock_list->ll_count != 0) {
802db239:   0f 84 ff 00 00 00   je 802db33e

802db23f:   44 8b 60 50 mov0x50(%rax),%r12d

is it possible for the hardware to do any re-ordering here?

The reason I'm suspicious is not just that the code doesn't have a
lock leak at the indicated point, but in one instance I can see in the
dump that the lock_list local from witness_warn is from the pcpu
structure for CPU 0 (and I was warned about sched lock 0), but the
thread id in panic_cpu is 2.  So clearly the thread was being migrated
right around panic time.

This is the amd64 kernel on stable/7.  I'm not sure exactly what kind
of hardware; it's a 4-way Intel chip from about 3 or 4 years ago IIRC.

So... do we need some kind of barrier in the code for sched_pin() for
it to really do what it claims?  Could the hardware have re-ordered
the "mov%gs:0x48,%rax" PCPU_GET to before the sched_pin()
increment?

Thanks,
matthew
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