KDE 3.2.1
Is it me? Or does KDE 3.2.1 seem to run much faster then 3.2.0? -- Best regards, Chris ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Top posting
At 03:24 PM 3/19/2004, you wrote: Top-posting may be an opinion, but RFC 1855 makes it _standard_ opinion. Let's get serious for a minute here. Just because someone wrote up an INFORMATIONAL RFC does NOT make it STANDARD. It makes it INFORMATIONAL. Big difference. Go look up RFC 2026 for what it takes to become a standard. I wonder what it would be like if you went to a cocktail party and before you could say anything in a conversation you first had to say everything that everyone else had said. I suppose you could turn it into a drinking game (if you missed some bit you would be forced to take a drink) but it would only be entertaining for a short time. Netiquette guidelines are like C coding styles, subject to great rip roaring debates. My personal pet peeve is 600 lines of included text only to get to the bottom line which adds "This is how I feel about it too." I loved tin(1)'s filter that popped back and said "Hmm, more than 50% included text, perhaps you want to either add more content or delete some of the text." Only to have complete morons who would add 20 lines of "-- filler text to main tin happy --" lines! Can you believe how stupid that is? No, I didn't think so. But its true. And top posting or bottom posting just including all that text is a complete waste on an archive list like this one since anyone who "doesn't get it" need only go to the archive to "figure it out." Instead a thread like this has easily 10x the character count of the actual characters used in new text. Even good text compression can help that much. So you end up with the servers that archive this for posterity (Hi Mom!) overflowing with redundant information. If you could somehow mandate top posting and train people who want to catch up to read from the bottom up on the first message of the thread they read, then you could archive the entire thread and chop off the messages as soon as you got to a line of included text and the archived version would be completely readable from front to back for posterity. But no one seems to have these sorts of "deep thoughts" and what we get is, well whatever someone things is best. And as we can see reading this thread, some think one way and some think another. That's my working definition of "difference of opinion." :-) That's why generally I scan through the text and extract the content. My comment was merely a counterpoint in the harmony of discussion. --Chuck ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Mail readers
in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wrote Bart Silverstrim thusly... > > According to the FAQ, it (f=f) was developed (IIRC) by Qualcomm to Anybody still interested in this, should not miss ... RFC 3676, The Text/Plain Format and DelSp Parameters, Feb 2004 ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3676.txt ... which supersedes RFC 2646. "What does that superseding actually translates to?", i do not know. > not solve any problem in particular. Actually both RFCs do try to. - Parv -- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Sparc Ultra 10 & X
Saludos, FreeBSD gurus! I'm trying to configure X in an old sparc ultra 10. I tried without modifying GENERIC kernel, and I got: Fatal server error: xf86OpenConsole: No console driver found Supported drivers: syscons Check your kernel's console driver configuration and /dev entries Now, in my kernel configuration the only thing that I found about graphics cards is: #device creator # Creator graphics cards #device splash # Splash screen and screen saver But I do not know if I have a "creator" graphics card. I uncommented this lines and recompile again. The result was the same. I found "vga" in man pages. According to this page, you can add: device vga in your kernel configuration, but when I try it says: UltaMan:/usr/src/sys/sparc64/conf# config evs config: Error: device "vga" is unknown config: 1 errors Have you installed (and ran) X in this kind of computers? Does it work? Is there any trick I have to learn? Thanks in advance. Eduardo. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Starting a new thread (was Re: drive / IDE controller questions)
in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wrote Joey Mingrone thusly... > > On March 19, 2004 18:37, Parv wrote: > > in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > wrote Joey Mingrone thusly... > > > > > I've been having problems with my western digital drive > > > > What that has to do w/ the thread discussing wget & proxy > > problem? ... > > People, kindly do not hijack a thread; start a new one. Thanks > > for your cooperation in future. > > Sorry about that. I think I got lazy and just replied to a > message and changed the subject Appreciate the acknowledgment. > instead of typing [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the To: field. > ..didn't realize the messages were threaded on the list. It is not the 'list' where the messages are threaded per se. 'References:' and/or 'In-Reply-To:' headers[0] contained in a message posses the information that allows for threading of messages by a mail reader, mutt in my case. Ergo, just a change in the 'To:' header will not make any difference, unless you also /remove/ the 'References:' and 'In-Reply-To:' headers. That assumes that you want to create a new & separate thread by replying to another message, which is more time consuming than starting a new thread from scratch, no? [0] RFC 2822, 3.6.4 Identification fields... http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/cgi-bin/rfc/rfc2822.html#sec-3.6.4 - Parv -- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: KLD and UID
>What version of FreeBSD are you trying this on? >You might want to look at this thread on hackers@, it's very similar to >what you're trying to do, I think: Yes, I think I found that thread yesterday. I am trying it on the 5.x series and I notice that the proc pointer argument of a syscall has become a thread pointer. That would, of course, explain the horrible crashes. It is just a shame that I discovered that after my assignment was handed in, ah well such is life. Thanks for your help, Simon ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: The clock is running too fast
Hi Dan, The system clock has been running correctly more than 16 hours. > I'm sorry, I don't know what 'ntc' is. Do you mean 'ntp'? You can use ntp > or not ... if your timing hardware is off, ntp will constantly try to slew > the time back to where it should be, which will a) mean your systems > concept of time is very non-linear and b) fill the log with warning > messages. It's actually a good check to see if the timer's good (although > an slmost equally good check is to sit there and look at the clock). Oh sorry for my typing mistake. Yes I meant 'ntp'. It synchronyses the system clock. Even if the PC is not running round the clock. Whenvever you turn on the PC, it checkes the time and corrects it. I have it setup on a Debian PC.; > I forgot to mention that besides changing /etc/sysctl.conf, you have to > reboot. If you don't want to reboot, you will have to do "sysctl > kern.timecounter.hardware=i8254" at a prompt. But I'm not sure if that's a > value that can be set after the system boots. I have to reboot the PC otherwise the system clock will not be adjusted, still running on double speed. > I suggested "i8254" because it's the only device that was supplying good > time values on my system. If you have trouble with that device, you might > also want to try "TSC". $ dmesg.Thetimeclock dmesg.Thetimeclock: not found $ dmesg | grep Timecounter Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 350796390 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec What are their difference in function between i8254/ACPI-safe/TSC B.R. Stephen > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Liu > Sent: March 19, 2004 01:12 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: The clock is running too fast > > > Hi Dan, > > Thanks for your advice. > > > I had a similar problem on one of the machines at work. Here is a memo I > > made to myself to remind me of how to fix the problem in the future: > > > > The "ACPI-safe" Timecounter does not work (it is way, WAY too fast). To > > get around this, add the following line to /etc/sysctl.conf: > > > > kern.timecounter.hardware=i8254 > > Added above line to /etc/sysctl.conf > > $ cat /etc/sysctl.conf > vfs.usermount=1 > kern.timecounter.hardware=i8254 > > Now only 2 lines in this file. > > I have adjusted the clock thereafter and will check it again later > > > There are multiple pieces of hardware capable of supplying timing > > information to the OS. "dmesg | grep Timecounter" should give you a list > > of all such devices. > > > > I think this is an ACPI-related problem, since that is the technology I > > understand the least at the moment. > > $ dmesg | grep Timecounter > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 > Timecounter "TSC" frequency 350797051 Hz quality 800 > Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec > > Shall I run 'ntc' to synchronize the clock. > > B.R. > Stephen > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Liu > > Sent: March 18, 2004 21:47 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: The clock is running too fast > > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > AMD CUP > > FreeBSD 5.2 > > > > The clock on KDE desktop is running on double speed compelling me to > > adjust > > > it > > periodically. Kindly advise how to fix this problem. > > > > TIA > > > > B.R. > > Stephen Liu ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Top posting
On Mar 20, 2004, at 07:24, Tillman Hodgson wrote: On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 05:35:06PM -0500, Al Johnson wrote: I'm with you... Top-posting makes the most sense for me. It comes down to opinion I think My standard response to top-posting: A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is putting a reply at the top of the message frowned upon? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Top-posting may be an opinion, but RFC 1855 makes it _standard_ opinion. Best regards, -T Second sentence of RFC1855 - "This memo does not specify an Internet standard of any kind." So much for that. People who abhor top posting feel very strongly about it. People who don't, usually don't. This falls firmly into my general life philosophy: I generally agree with the opinions of people minding their own business. I generally disagree with the opinions of people minding my business. My strongest opinion on top-posting is that I don't want to see endless threads about it in the lists I'm reading - like this one. KeS ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
sendmail off - no more accounting message to root
that ought to do the trick. many thanks for your help, matthew. --- On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 00:44:07 + Matthew Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 12:39:42AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 06:58:23PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > because i'm only running a desktop and sylpheed has it's own mail > > > transport system, i shut down sendmail. however, since making this > > > change, i've noticed that the root account is no longer receiving the > > > daily accounting digest. > > > > > > i've had a look at the 310.accounting file in periodic, but am not > > > sure what to change to get the accounting back. is sendmail an > > > absolute requirement for this service or is there some other way one > > > of you might now about? > > > > Try looking at /etc/defaults/periodic.conf instead -- it's a lot > > clearer in there how to make the daily/weekly/monthly jobs write their > > output to a log file rather than in an e-mail. > > > > Nb. Don't edit /etc/defaults/periodic.conf -- just create > > /etc/periodic.conf and put in there the settings you wish to override. > > Bah! I'll forget me own head next. I meant to say that if you set the > output to log files like so: > > daily_output="/var/log/daily.log" > weekly_output="/var/log/weekly.log" > monthly_output="/var/log/monthly.log" > > then the default /etc/newsyslog.conf is already setup to cycle those > logfiles neatly. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks > Savill Way > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow > Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: raid-1, Vinum
On Friday, 19 March 2004 at 17:22:17 -0800, Me wrote: > I'm using vinum Raid-1. > I have figured out how to recover from a failed disk. > Does any one know what to do if the disk that has the > vinum configuration/OS fails? All Vinum drives have two copies of the configuration. They would all have to fail before you lose the configuration. > lets say I have a disk with a vinum partition on it and I want to > create a mirror out of it on an entire new system. how do i > accomplish this. Can you be a bit more specific? Are you trying to move data from one system to another? "Vinum partitions" are not the way to look at things: a vinum partition doesn't need to have any Vinum data on it, for example. > I've search quite a bit but most senarios only show how to recover a > failed drive that doesnt contain the OS. I suppose you mean the root file system. There shouldn't be any difference, but that depends on exactly what you want to do. Can you explain in terms of volumes and plexes? Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Note: I discard all HTML mail unseen. Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: DVD R/W in FreeBSD?
Ed Alley wrote: Does FreeBSD support ATA DVD writers the same way that it supports CD writers? I have been to SOS's web page, and have looked at hardware support info, but have found no hint at whether ATA DVD writers are supported under FreeBSD. Yes-- consider using "device atapicam" + the sysutils/dvd+rw-tools port. -- -Chuck ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: drive / IDE controller questions
[Jerry McAllister] >[Joey Mingone] >> [Jerry McAllister] >>> Another early guess might also be overheating problems. I am not sure >>> how you would check other than trying to make it cooler. >> Could be.. although I have almost always had the case open and I have >> two case fans. The CPU temp is usually in the 40s or 50s C (not too bad >> for a 1.6GHz Athlon) and the memory is usually around 25C. ..but maybe >> I'll try pointing a fan at it. The case fans won't help much with the case open. > Actually, I mean the disk overheating. They do that and they get worse > at it as they age too. > Also, some cases are designed to aid in the cooling and so with > the case open, the airflow is either not properly directed or it > doesn't get enough of a Bernouli or hydraulic effect... Of course, > if it is a generic case that is probably not a consideration. Well, my tower box doesn't have any special baffles (yet) but if I operate it with both side panels off and push the CPU hard it will reset, and if I check the CPU heat sink I find it unusually warm. Without the forced circulation from either the exhaust fans above and to the rear or the inlet fan that I have on my disk drives, the CPU fan appears to draw back too much of the warm air it ejects below, hence the trend toward putting a side inlet vent on the machine -- a very bad idea, since it means that you can't place the machine up against another one. (The new BTX spec addresses this, but it looks like it introduces other problems.) I suggest that Joey check the temperature of the drive as he usually runs it, then again after running with the box closed. Mark Terribile __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Top posting
Jerry McAllister wrote: I'm with you... Top-posting makes the most sense for me. No, it is like reading all the answers and then being handed the questions. I know some college students like to function A. Top posters Q. What's the most annoying thing on Usenet? QED Mark ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: which 8-port 10/100 hub is best?
[Greg Lehey] > [W. D.] >> [Gary Kline] >>> I'm upgrading my hub from a 5-port hub and thought I would check >>> with this list ... >> If there is a possibility that you will have some heavy traffic >> at times, the best hub is a switch! You are likely to have >> less bandwidth wasting collisions during high traffic periods. > ... hubs are obsolete. You can find switches for almost nothing nowadays; > don't buy hubs. > ... I've never had problems with cheap switches, so I would tend to > buy by price. About five years ago, when miniature hubs came out, I did have a bad experience with one. When the load neared 100 MBit/sec and stayed that high for half a minute or so, it would reset, taking at least half a minute to start up again. If you really mean to put it under load, be sure you can get a refund. Mark Terribile __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: deleting directories with ??? in name
in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wrote Walter thusly... > I apologize for the late reply. > Parv wrote: > > > # find . \( -inum -o -inum \) -print0 \ > > # | xargs -0 rm -rfv > > > > Thanks, but when I did: > ls -i > and then typed in the inode in the command (saved in an old List > e-mail): > find . -inum -delete > it didn't delete them. Do you think your way would work where > manual command wouldn't? But, they are gone now, so I can't try > it anyway. My _speculation_ is that if '-delete' option did not work from w/in find(1), i doubt that above quoted command chain would cause any difference. I suppose, you also guessed the same. OTOH, the description of -delete option does say... -delete ... It will not attempt to delete a filename with a ``/'' character in its pathname relative to ``.'' for security reasons. ...that is one thing to consider. It would have been fun to experiment w/ the offending directory structure. Next time it happens, send me a sample/small tar'd copy, will you? - Parv -- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Rxvt replacement?
Peter Schuller wrote: Is there any other xterm replacement which is small like rxvt? Or at least smaller than xterm. Grepping around the ports tree i found 'wterm' which is supposedly a fork/branch of rxvt (haven't tried it yet). There's also aterm (also forked off rxvt apparantly). aterm is great- half the footprint or better of XTerm, with working transparency/shading if that's your thing. I _think_ wterm is also an rxvt derivative, so either one should be close in footprint... Scott ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: drive / IDE controller questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On March 19, 2004 18:37, Parv wrote: > in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > wrote Joey Mingrone thusly... > > > I've been having problems with my western digital drive > > (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?DriveID=24) for about a > > year. > > What that has to do w/ the thread discussing wget & proxy problem? > Above message was a *reply* to one of the messages in that thread. > It was quite a rude surprise. > > People, kindly do not hijack a thread; start a new one. Thanks for > your cooperation in future. > > > - Parv Sorry about that. I think I got lazy and just replied to a message and changed the subject instead of typing [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the To: field. ..didn't realize the messages were threaded on the list. joey -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAW5zt0NQPEWppBZsRAsAeAJ9SVB3feilyU3ApA7L3iIHEOFU6fgCffb2l bJK7AOxrjQJIxrFNH13blGc= =6i3f -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: which 8-port 10/100 hub is best?
Sayeth Volpes: I would suggest advoiding hubs, as switches are uber cheap nodays and give better performace... multiple collision zones and traffic is not broadcast to everyone. I am currently using a Zonet ZFS3008... it is cheap and works nicely... had one die on me from over heating thought... this on runs a lot cooler thought. Forget what model the one that died after a year was, but it had the LEDs on top and the power plug on the opasite side the the RJ45 connectors. I have a small nit to pick. There are times when a hub is just the thing. NTOP and ETHEREAL are my favorite examples for this (especially in a small environment, when management won't spend for a managed switch that can mirror/span ports) but there are other reasons as well when you might want a machine to see all of the traffic coming across the wire. Kurt ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
raid-1, Vinum
I'm using vinum Raid-1. I have figured out how to recover from a failed disk. Does any one know what to do if the disk that has the vinum configuration/OS fails? lets say I have a disk with a vinum partition on it and I want to create a mirror out of it on an entire new system. how do i accomplish this. I've search quite a bit but most senarios only show how to recover a failed drive that doesnt contain the OS. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Impact of running pkgdb -fu
Kris Kennaway Sent: March 19, 2004 18:06 > On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 05:56:08PM -0700, Dan MacMillan wrote: > > Kris Kennaway Sent: March 19, 2004 17:46 > > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 05:34:38PM -0700, Dan MacMillan wrote: > > > > > > > > I have a question about the effect of running "pkgdb -fu", > > > > besides making me laugh because of its whimsically profane > > > > command-line options. > > > > > > > > Suppose I have been running "pkgdb -F" as suggested by > > > > portupgrade, and I accidentally delete a stale dependency > > > > that should have been handled in another way. Will > > > > rebuilding the package database with "pkgdb -fu" restore > > > > this dependency to its pristine, correct state? > > > > > > No, the dependency was removed from the installed package. You need > > > to explicitly restore it, e.g. by reinstalling it. > > > > Thanks for your reply ... but now I'm a little confused. The > > dependencies are stored in the packages themselves? Would that be in > > the tarball in the /usr/ports/distfiles directory? Where can I go to > > learn more about this, specifically the anatomy of a binary package > > and the structure of the package database? > > Packages register themselves in /var/db/pkg when installed. Read the > pkg_create and related manpages for more details. Excellent. Thank you for your kind attention. -Dan ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: which 8-port 10/100 hub is best?
On 20 Mar 2004 at 9:01, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Thursday, 18 March 2004 at 22:54:49 -0600, W. D. wrote: > > > > If there is a possibility that you will have some heavy traffic > > at times, the best hub is a switch! You are likely to have > > less bandwidth wasting collisions during high traffic periods. > > I'd put it more forcibly than that: hubs are obsolete. You can find > switches for almost nothing nowadays; don't buy hubs. > > And yes, I haven't checked whether the EFAH08W is a switch or a hub. > But I've never had problems with cheap switches, so I would tend to > buy by price. I have had problems with a cheap TrendNet switch. I no longer recall the details (except that backups that went through it tended to die), but it was in a high-traffic location and the problems were fixed by replacing it with a not-quite-as-cheap D-Link switch. I compared notes with another sysadmin at a different local company and found he'd had a similar experience with the same switch. I have a different model of cheap TrendNet switch in a low-traffic location and have had no trouble with it. YMMV. -- Jerry Dunham M3 Design, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (512) 218-8858 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: which 8-port 10/100 hub is best?
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 19:45:12 -0800 Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > People, > > I'm upgrading my hub from a 5-port hub and thought I would > check with this list to see if the Linksys EFAH08W is still a > good deal. If there is somethng other that would work equally > well on my FreeBSD netwrk, please le me know. (I've had good > luck with Linksys, but have read some negative comments.) I would suggest advoiding hubs, as switches are uber cheap nodays and give better performace... multiple collision zones and traffic is not broadcast to everyone. I am currently using a Zonet ZFS3008... it is cheap and works nicely... had one die on me from over heating thought... this on runs a lot cooler thought. Forget what model the one that died after a year was, but it had the LEDs on top and the power plug on the opasite side the the RJ45 connectors. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
pkgtools.conf strangeness
It seems I can't get portupgrade -arR (or -f) to honor
pkgtools.conf. I've run portsdb -Uu,
I've rebuild mozilla almost a dozen times over the
past few days trying to work this out, google and the
lists gave some pointers, but they don't see to be
working. Everytime I build it, it's using the default
options in the www/mozilla/Makefile and not what's in
pkgtools.conf. Any advice would help out.
FreeBSD fortytwo.zapto.org 4.9-STABLE FreeBSD
4.9-STABLE #0: Thu Mar 4 04:07:58 EST 2004
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FORTYTWO
i386
portupgrade-20040208 FreeBSD ports/packages
administration and management tool
MAKE_ARGS = {
'graphics/gimp-devel' => [
'WITH_PYTHON=1',
'WITHOUT_PRINT=1',
],
'net/gaim' => [
'WITHOUT_GTKSPELL=1',
'WITHOUT_AUDIO=1',
'WITH_GNUTLS=1',
'WITH_NSS=1',
],
'www/firefox' => [
'WITH_OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS=1',
],
'x11-toolkits/open-motif-*' => [
'WITHOUT_OPENMOTIF_DEMOS=1',
],
'multimedia/mplayer' => [
'WITH_OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS=1',
'WITHOUT_RUNTIME_CPUDETECTION=1',
'WITHOUT_MEMCODER=1',
'WITH_GUI=1',
],
'irc/xchat2' => [
'WITH_PYTHON=1',
],
'www/mozilla/' => [
'WITHOUT_MAILNEWS=1',
'WITHOUT_LDAP=1',
'WITHOUT_CHATZILLA=1',
'WITHOUT_COMPOSER=1',
'WITHOUT_CALENDAR=1',
'WITH_OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS=1',
],
'mail/mutt' => [
'WITHOUT_NLS=1',
],
'mail/postfix' => [
'POSTFIX_OPTIONS=SASL2 IPv6TLS DB41',
'BATCH=yes'
],
'net/nicotine' => [
'WITH_VORBIS=1',
],
'www/bluefish' => [
'WITH_AUTO_COMPLETE=1',
],
}
Full pkgtools.conf, make.conf, and pkg_info at
www.geocitites.com/h2g2_jimmiejaz/pkg_info.txt and
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Re: Impact of running pkgdb -fu
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 05:56:08PM -0700, Dan MacMillan wrote: > > Kris Kennaway Sent: March 19, 2004 17:46 > > > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 05:34:38PM -0700, Dan MacMillan wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have a question about the effect of running "pkgdb -fu", > > > besides making me laugh because of its whimsically profane > > > command-line options. > > > > > > Suppose I have been running "pkgdb -F" as suggested by > > > portupgrade, and I accidentally delete a stale dependency > > > that should have been handled in another way. Will > > > rebuilding the package database with "pkgdb -fu" restore > > > this dependency to its pristine, correct state? > > > > No, the dependency was removed from the installed package. You need > > to explicitly restore it, e.g. by reinstalling it. > > > > Thanks for your reply ... but now I'm a little confused. The dependencies > are stored in the packages themselves? Would that be in the tarball in the > /usr/ports/distfiles directory? Where can I go to learn more about this, > specifically the anatomy of a binary package and the structure of the > package database? Packages register themselves in /var/db/pkg when installed. Read the pkg_create and related manpages for more details. Kris pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: CMS on FreeBSD
At 04:39 PM 3/19/2004, Dan Rue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Umm.. I don't know what other people think about this - but I really never run any PHP stuff from ports. It is easier, imo, to just download the tgz and unzip it to the directory you want it in. Yes, exactly. You can download the latest PHP-Nuke sources and have a test installation up very quickly. As far as which cms to use, I'm currently undecided as well. Ditto. After some googling and testing I settled on Geeklog, and it is doing the job for my small-time personal site, but I am not married to it. (geeklog.net) It is probably not robust enough if you need a very flexible, generalized CMS. It's more a weblog/portal with plugins for other stuff like file management. My boss really likes drupal, and forces me to use it :) Check out opensourcecms.com - they showcase dozens of php cms' and let you try them out. If Scott or anyone else draws any conclusions from their own testing, please post! ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm constantly updating it. Greg ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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RE: Impact of running pkgdb -fu
> Kris Kennaway Sent: March 19, 2004 17:46 > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 05:34:38PM -0700, Dan MacMillan wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a question about the effect of running "pkgdb -fu", > > besides making me laugh because of its whimsically profane > > command-line options. > > > > Suppose I have been running "pkgdb -F" as suggested by > > portupgrade, and I accidentally delete a stale dependency > > that should have been handled in another way. Will > > rebuilding the package database with "pkgdb -fu" restore > > this dependency to its pristine, correct state? > > No, the dependency was removed from the installed package. You need > to explicitly restore it, e.g. by reinstalling it. > Thanks for your reply ... but now I'm a little confused. The dependencies are stored in the packages themselves? Would that be in the tarball in the /usr/ports/distfiles directory? Where can I go to learn more about this, specifically the anatomy of a binary package and the structure of the package database? -Dan ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Impact of running pkgdb -fu
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 05:34:38PM -0700, Dan MacMillan wrote: > Hi, > > I have a question about the effect of running "pkgdb -fu", besides making me > laugh because of its whimsically profane command-line options. > > Suppose I have been running "pkgdb -F" as suggested by portupgrade, and I > accidentally delete a stale dependency that should have been handled in > another way. Will rebuilding the package database with "pkgdb -fu" restore > this dependency to its pristine, correct state? No, the dependency was removed from the installed package. You need to explicitly restore it, e.g. by reinstalling it. Kris pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Vinum, replaced disk -- fsck error.
On Saturday, 20 March 2004 at 0:23:11 +, Lewis Thompson wrote: > On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 08:57:38AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> On Friday, 19 March 2004 at 3:03:34 +, Lewis Thompson wrote: >>> In a reply to my original question you stated that ``dd if=ad3 of=ad1 >>> bs=8192 conv=noerror'' ``may or may not work, depending on details you >>> haven't reported.'' Do these detailed errors help at all? >> >> A little. They tell me that the drive is flaky. I'd expect to see >> the error messages in /var/log/messages, though. > > Right. I've just written a full-blown reply to this message but on the > very last thing I did some looking into dd. After some searching I > found somebody that said: > > ``One must specify conv=noerror,sync when copying raw disks with bad > sectors to ensure dd stays synchronized'' > > I'm feeling sheepish now. I've only used conv=noerror. This would > probably explain something (i.e. I can read the config from the disk > because it's synched at the beginning). Possibly. It's also possible that the bad sectors contained crucial data; that's what I had expected. > I'm going to re-dd the disk on Monday (I'm away for the weekend). > I'll tell you how I get on then. I still don't understand why you're using dd. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Note: I discard all HTML mail unseen. Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sendmail off - no more accounting message to root
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 12:39:42AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 06:58:23PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > because i'm only running a desktop and sylpheed has it's own mail transport > > system, i shut down sendmail. however, since making this change, i've > > noticed that the root account is no longer receiving the daily > > accounting digest. > > > > i've had a look at the 310.accounting file in periodic, but am not sure > > what to change to get the accounting back. is sendmail an absolute > > requirement for this service or is there some other way one of you might > > now about? > > Try looking at /etc/defaults/periodic.conf instead -- it's a lot > clearer in there how to make the daily/weekly/monthly jobs write their > output to a log file rather than in an e-mail. > > Nb. Don't edit /etc/defaults/periodic.conf -- just create > /etc/periodic.conf and put in there the settings you wish to override. Bah! I'll forget me own head next. I meant to say that if you set the output to log files like so: daily_output="/var/log/daily.log" weekly_output="/var/log/weekly.log" monthly_output="/var/log/monthly.log" then the default /etc/newsyslog.conf is already setup to cycle those logfiles neatly. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Impact of running pkgdb -fu
Hi, I have a question about the effect of running "pkgdb -fu", besides making me laugh because of its whimsically profane command-line options. Suppose I have been running "pkgdb -F" as suggested by portupgrade, and I accidentally delete a stale dependency that should have been handled in another way. Will rebuilding the package database with "pkgdb -fu" restore this dependency to its pristine, correct state? On a related note ... I recently ran "portupgrade -rRa", as is my wont, and it suggested I run "pkgdb -F". So I did. It reported as stale dependencies packages that were never installed on my system. Is this normal? I haven't seen it before. For example it reported as a stale dependency of one of the kde* packages the x11/nvidia driver. Although I have that driver installed, I downloaded and installed it by hand from the nVidia web site (I didn't know it was available as a port). Hence my question. I accidentally said, "remove this dependency" to "pkgdb -F". After realizing that the dependencies "pkgdb -F" was reporting as stale were actually not installed, I built each of those ports which made "pkgdb -F" stop complaining about them. I also subsequently built the x11/nvidia port, but it's the removal of that first dependency that's keeping me up at night. Hence my question regarding "pkgdb -fu". Does it restore everything to its neat-and-tidy state? Or am I cursed to live out my days with a besmirched (or befouled, your choice) package database? -Dan MacMillan ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: sendmail off - no more accounting message to root
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 06:58:23PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > because i'm only running a desktop and sylpheed has it's own mail transport > system, i shut down sendmail. however, since making this change, i've > noticed that the root account is no longer receiving the daily > accounting digest. > > i've had a look at the 310.accounting file in periodic, but am not sure > what to change to get the accounting back. is sendmail an absolute > requirement for this service or is there some other way one of you might > now about? Try looking at /etc/defaults/periodic.conf instead -- it's a lot clearer in there how to make the daily/weekly/monthly jobs write their output to a log file rather than in an e-mail. Nb. Don't edit /etc/defaults/periodic.conf -- just create /etc/periodic.conf and put in there the settings you wish to override. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Top posting
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 05:24:59PM -0600, Tillman Hodgson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 05:35:06PM -0500, Al Johnson wrote: > My standard response to top-posting: > > A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > Q: Why is putting a reply at the top of the message frowned upon? > A: Top-posting. > Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? .siht ekil I .doog si sihT -lewiz. -- I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now. --Bob Dylan, 1964. -| msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | url:www.lewiz.org |- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Vinum, replaced disk -- fsck error.
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 08:57:38AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Friday, 19 March 2004 at 3:03:34 +, Lewis Thompson wrote: > > In a reply to my original question you stated that ``dd if=ad3 of=ad1 > > bs=8192 conv=noerror'' ``may or may not work, depending on details you > > haven't reported.'' Do these detailed errors help at all? > > A little. They tell me that the drive is flaky. I'd expect to see > the error messages in /var/log/messages, though. Right. I've just written a full-blown reply to this message but on the very last thing I did some looking into dd. After some searching I found somebody that said: ``One must specify conv=noerror,sync when copying raw disks with bad sectors to ensure dd stays synchronized'' I'm feeling sheepish now. I've only used conv=noerror. This would probably explain something (i.e. I can read the config from the disk because it's synched at the beginning). I'm going to re-dd the disk on Monday (I'm away for the weekend). I'll tell you how I get on then. Thanks again for all the help, -lewiz. -- I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now. --Bob Dylan, 1964. -| msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | url:www.lewiz.org |- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
sendmail off - no more accounting message to root
hello all, because i'm only running a desktop and sylpheed has it's own mail transport system, i shut down sendmail. however, since making this change, i've noticed that the root account is no longer receiving the daily accounting digest. i've had a look at the 310.accounting file in periodic, but am not sure what to change to get the accounting back. is sendmail an absolute requirement for this service or is there some other way one of you might now about? hoping to be pointed in the right direction. thanks, epi ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
OT: Quiet SCSI drives?
I'm going to be doing some development work with a few databases in a regulated environment. Needless to say, I need some serious storage for running test versions. But for the reasons I won't bore you with, I'll want them just to run on my workstation. So I need an oomph workstation with a fair amount of storage. I'll build it myself so I can have my choice of components. (I'm looking at dual Opteron!) Here's the thing. I'd prefer SCSI drives for their performance and reliability but I can't stand the noise they tend to generate. Is anyone out there acquainted with a SCSI model that runs fairly quietly? It doesn't have to be the most blazingly fast model out there; I'm willing to sacrifice some performance (though not reliability) for quiet. I do have to work near the thing. Some noise is fine. It's the high-pitched squeal I get from the drives in the server room that kills me. Failing that, does anyone have experiences, positive or negative, with the various drive-noise dampeners on the market? Thanks, J ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
drive / IDE controller questions
[Jerry McAllister writes]
> {Joey Mingrone writes]
>> I've been having problems with my western digital drive ...
>> The problem started out when I would randomly hear the drive restarting. It
>> would make a high pitch sound... (The same sound the drive makes when you
>> power on the system). ... Eventually they would happen over and over ...
>> So now, I'm guessing the problem may lie with the controller on the main
>> board
>Another early guess might also be overheating problems. I am not sure how
>you would check other than trying to make it cooler.
One way to check heating is to take the cover off and put your hand on the
drive. If it's too hot for your comfort, it's probably too hot for the drive's
comfort. You want to let the machine run and then remove the cover and check
it quickly; airflow changes when you take the cover(s) off. If that's the
problem, an extra fan in the right place can work wonders.
Don't exonorate cables too quickly; they can block airflow, especially if they
sag over time, or get pulled about by airflow.
I'm not familiar with the WD utilities; do they do surface scans? If not,
is it possible that there are problems that either the controllers or FreeBSD
cannot handle, and that these are occurring as certain blocks are put into
service? (But that wouldn't explain the failure on two drives?)
Mark Terribile
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Re: Top posting
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 05:35:06PM -0500, Al Johnson wrote: > I'm with you... Top-posting makes the most sense for me. > > It comes down to opinion I think My standard response to top-posting: A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is putting a reply at the top of the message frowned upon? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Top-posting may be an opinion, but RFC 1855 makes it _standard_ opinion. Best regards, -T -- "It's hard to find people in society who can administer UNIX and professionally carry a weapon." - Jim Williams, former FBI Computer Intrusion Squad agent ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Top posting
On Friday, 19 March 2004 at 17:53:09 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: >> >> On Fri, Mar 19, 2004, Charles McManis clacked the keyboard to produce: >>> Perhaps it isn't "logical", if you've read all the email then the quoted >>> thread is just reference anyway. This is the "new stuff". I love being able >>> to read mail in the preview-pane vs "next message" , jump to the bottom, >>> "next message" jump to the bottom. > > Maybe, if you only have one thread to deal with. But in any given > day I am seeing hundreds of messages from scores of threads. Some > precious but out of context tidbit is easily orphaned and becomes > meaningless. Of course, leaving extraneous text behind doesn't help either. This message had 12 lines of relevant text and 70 of irrelevant text (exceptionally, left behind as evidence; there's nothing below of any further interest). This makes people scroll all the way down just to discover there's nothing there. Greg > > jerry > >>> >>> It comes down to opinion I think >>> --Chuck >>> >>> >>> On Friday 19 March 2004 09:46, Louis LeBlanc wrote: On 03/19/04 09:21 AM, Joshua Lokken sat at the `puter and typed: > http://www.google.com/search?q=rfc+top+posting&sourceid=mozilla-search&st > art=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 > > > > Wow, almost every single reply to the list today was top posted. > People, please know (and you must, you have to read them, too) > that posting replies to the top of an email is, well, counter- > intuitive, hard to follow, and goes against the general grain of > RFC 1855. Please, it has been requested from many users of this > list, do not top post replies, but don't stop sending them ;) Yes, it has been requested from many users, and quite a few have flat out refused to follow this logical norm. Others simply follow the precedent set in any given thread, and some few will go so far as to delete the trailing messages and try to herd an already errant thread in the right direction. For my part, my reply behavior depends on the audience. One would think that a company with so many geeks (from developers to SW architects) would tend to do this right, but not so. Bottom line, don't hold your breath. Unfortunately, many mail clients don't show the replied email during reply composition but place it below the response, and most default to replying at the top anyway. Most users just don't bother to correct it when the option is there. I feel your pain dude. Lou >>> >> >> [format broken, see above and then back down to here] >> >> No, it is not logical. If everyone top-posts, the email must be read in >> reverse to recapture thoughts of others or points made. If twleve people >> reply properly and you reply the way your `opinion' tells you too, you >> have broken the path or reading, by forcing people to jump to the bottom >> to refresh the last message and then back to the top to get the latest >> thoughts or info. It is also quite obnoxious to review such top-posters >> threads that are intermixed when looking through the archives. >> >> Finally, as pointed out previously, it does not follow convention. It is >> much like Microsft `enhancing' an industry standard, which actually >> breaks the standard. >> >> -- >> Bob >> >> "Play is the work of children. It's very serious stuff. And if it's >> properly structured in a developmental program, children can blossom." >> -Bob Keeshan aka `Captain Kangaroo' >> ___ >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> > > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- Note: I discard all HTML mail unseen. Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Top posting
[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] RFC 1855 violation, reordered. Mutilated IRL. On Friday, 19 March 2004 at 14:28:24 -0800, Charles McManis wrote: > On Friday 19 March 2004 09:46, Louis LeBlanc wrote: >> On 03/19/04 09:21 AM, Joshua Lokken sat at the `puter and typed: >>> http://www.google.com/search?q=rfc+top+posting&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 >>> >>> Wow, almost every single reply to the list today was top posted. >>> People, please know (and you must, you have to read them, too) >>> that posting replies to the top of an email is, well, counter- >>> intuitive, hard to follow, and goes against the general grain of >>> RFC 1855. Please, it has been requested from many users of this >>> list, do not top post replies, but don't stop sending them ;) >> >> Yes, it has been requested from many users, and quite a few have flat >> out refused to follow this logical norm. > > Perhaps it isn't "logical", if you've read all the email then the > quoted thread is just reference anyway. I suppose it depends on your attention span. There were three paragraphs in this message, and I had to search for the relevant section. If you get 2,500 mail messages a day, you don't need this extra work. If you don't get 2,500 mail messages a day, you still don't need this extra work. In any case, I frequently see messages where the relationship between the original and the reply is tenuous at best. It seems that people who use top-posting often don't go to the trouble to compare the reply to what they are replying to (not surprising, since it's not nearby). The result is that top-posted replies often miss the point. >> Others simply follow the precedent set in any given thread, and >> some few will go so far as to delete the trailing messages and try >> to herd an already errant thread in the right direction. For my >> part, my reply behavior depends on the audience. One would think >> that a company with so many geeks (from developers to SW >> architects) would tend to do this right, but not so. Note that this paragraph is completely irrelevant to your reply (but not to the thread). Why leave it in to muddy the waters? >> Bottom line, don't hold your breath. Unfortunately, many mail clients >> don't show the replied email during reply composition but place it >> below the response, and most default to replying at the top anyway. >> Most users just don't bother to correct it when the option is there. > > This is the "new stuff". I love being able to read mail in the > preview-pane vs "next message" , jump to the bottom, "next message" > jump to the bottom. Sorry, I don't understand this. > It comes down to opinion I think I suppose it comes down to attention to detail and an interest in accurate communication. >> I feel your pain dude. Tell me about it. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Note: I discard all HTML mail unseen. Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: problem with MySon Ethernet Nics
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, GiTi wrote: > On Thursday 18 March 2004 18:09, Olaf Hoyer wrote: > > > Ok, do you have any Information about the chipset used on these? > > > > What is needed, is the dmesg output, at least those lines where the nic > > is probed. > > > > should read something like: > > > > pci2: foo bar > > dmesg print out something like: > > pci2: > > > My Nics is: > SURECOM EP-320X-S 100/10M Ethernet PCI Adapter > > i have tried to rebuilded the kernel and compiled its driver (basing on the > instruction) into kernel several times but I have not succeeded > > It is said that freebsd 5.2 supported MySon Ethernet Nics and ... i am > surprized . Maybe I have missed somthing? > Please help me to solve this problem > Hi! Well, do you mean with "compiled its driver" that they provide some own driver? Ok, in order to be able to help you, we need at least a dmesg with the card, and the _exact_ message, and also a pciconf -lv will be helpful. Because of rebranding of network chips one can never be sure what chip-revision you get with those relabelled products. Please boot a kernel.GENERIC and post that dmesg. HTH Olaf -- Olaf Hoyer[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fuerchterliche Erlebniss geben zu raten, ob der, welcher sie erlebt, nicht etwas Fuerchterliches ist. (Nietzsche, Jenseits von Gut und Boese) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Emachines M6805
Hello, I was wondering if there are any patches or plans to include support for the emachines m6805 with the mobile amd76 processor? I have tried installing via cd, but can't get passed boot, however I was able to install gentoo. Thankyou for your time. Dustin -- +++ NEU bei GMX und erstmalig in Deutschland: TÜV-geprüfter Virenschutz +++ 100% Virenerkennung nach Wildlist. Infos: http://www.gmx.net/virenschutz ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Top posting
On Friday 19 March 2004 04:28 pm, Charles McManis wrote: > Perhaps it isn't "logical", if you've read all the email then the quoted > thread is just reference anyway. This is the "new stuff". I love being able > to read mail in the preview-pane vs "next message" , jump to the bottom, > "next message" jump to the bottom. > > It comes down to opinion I think > --Chuck You top poster, you > On Friday 19 March 2004 09:46, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > > On 03/19/04 09:21 AM, Joshua Lokken sat at the `puter and typed: > > > http://www.google.com/search?q=rfc+top+posting&sourceid=mozilla-search&; > > >st art=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 > > > > > > > > > > > > Wow, almost every single reply to the list today was top posted. > > > People, please know (and you must, you have to read them, too) > > > that posting replies to the top of an email is, well, counter- > > > intuitive, hard to follow, and goes against the general grain of > > > RFC 1855. Please, it has been requested from many users of this > > > list, do not top post replies, but don't stop sending them ;) > > > > Yes, it has been requested from many users, and quite a few have flat > > out refused to follow this logical norm. Others simply follow the > > precedent set in any given thread, and some few will go so far as to > > delete the trailing messages and try to herd an already errant thread > > in the right direction. For my part, my reply behavior depends on the > > audience. One would think that a company with so many geeks (from > > developers to SW architects) would tend to do this right, but not so. > > > > Bottom line, don't hold your breath. Unfortunately, many mail clients > > don't show the replied email during reply composition but place it > > below the response, and most default to replying at the top anyway. > > Most users just don't bother to correct it when the option is there. > > > > I feel your pain dude. > > > > Lou > > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- Best regards, Chris ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Top posting
> > On Fri, Mar 19, 2004, Charles McManis clacked the keyboard to produce: > > Perhaps it isn't "logical", if you've read all the email then the quoted > > thread is just reference anyway. This is the "new stuff". I love being able > > to read mail in the preview-pane vs "next message" , jump to the bottom, > > "next message" jump to the bottom. Maybe, if you only have one thread to deal with. But in any given day I am seeing hundreds of messages from scores of threads. Some precious but out of context tidbit is easily orphaned and becomes meaningless. jerry > > > > It comes down to opinion I think > > --Chuck > > > > > > On Friday 19 March 2004 09:46, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > > > On 03/19/04 09:21 AM, Joshua Lokken sat at the `puter and typed: > > > > http://www.google.com/search?q=rfc+top+posting&sourceid=mozilla-search&st > > > >art=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wow, almost every single reply to the list today was top posted. > > > > People, please know (and you must, you have to read them, too) > > > > that posting replies to the top of an email is, well, counter- > > > > intuitive, hard to follow, and goes against the general grain of > > > > RFC 1855. Please, it has been requested from many users of this > > > > list, do not top post replies, but don't stop sending them ;) > > > > > > Yes, it has been requested from many users, and quite a few have flat > > > out refused to follow this logical norm. Others simply follow the > > > precedent set in any given thread, and some few will go so far as to > > > delete the trailing messages and try to herd an already errant thread > > > in the right direction. For my part, my reply behavior depends on the > > > audience. One would think that a company with so many geeks (from > > > developers to SW architects) would tend to do this right, but not so. > > > > > > Bottom line, don't hold your breath. Unfortunately, many mail clients > > > don't show the replied email during reply composition but place it > > > below the response, and most default to replying at the top anyway. > > > Most users just don't bother to correct it when the option is there. > > > > > > I feel your pain dude. > > > > > > Lou > > > > [format broken, see above and then back down to here] > > No, it is not logical. If everyone top-posts, the email must be read in > reverse to recapture thoughts of others or points made. If twleve people > reply properly and you reply the way your `opinion' tells you too, you > have broken the path or reading, by forcing people to jump to the bottom > to refresh the last message and then back to the top to get the latest > thoughts or info. It is also quite obnoxious to review such top-posters > threads that are intermixed when looking through the archives. > > Finally, as pointed out previously, it does not follow convention. It is > much like Microsft `enhancing' an industry standard, which actually > breaks the standard. > > -- > Bob > > "Play is the work of children. It's very serious stuff. And if it's > properly structured in a developmental program, children can blossom." > -Bob Keeshan aka `Captain Kangaroo' > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Top posting
> > I'm with you... Top-posting makes the most sense for me. No, it is like reading all the answers and then being handed the questions. I know some college students like to function that way, but... Top posting doesn't fit in to a naturally conversational style. I occasionally top post when me response is a general comment and not specific to any part of the question, but mostly responses in where they make the most sense (hopefully). jerry > I was born to top-post. > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 02:28:24PM -0800, Charles McManis wrote: > > Perhaps it isn't "logical", if you've read all the email then the quoted > > thread is just reference anyway. This is the "new stuff". I love being able > > to read mail in the preview-pane vs "next message" , jump to the bottom, > > "next message" jump to the bottom. > > > > It comes down to opinion I think > > --Chuck > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Top posting
* Bob Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-19 14:33]: > > > > It comes down to opinion I think > > --Chuck > > > > > > On Friday 19 March 2004 09:46, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > > > On 03/19/04 09:21 AM, Joshua Lokken sat at the `puter and typed: > > > > > > > > RFC 1855. Please, it has been requested from many users of this > > > > list, do not top post replies, but don't stop sending them ;) > > > > > > > > > I feel your pain dude. > > > > > > Lou > > > > [format broken, see above and then back down to here] > > No, it is not logical. If everyone top-posts, the email must be read in > reverse to recapture thoughts of others or points made. If twleve people > reply properly and you reply the way your `opinion' tells you too, you > have broken the path or reading, by forcing people to jump to the bottom > to refresh the last message and then back to the top to get the latest > thoughts or info. It is also quite obnoxious to review such top-posters > threads that are intermixed when looking through the archives. > > Finally, as pointed out previously, it does not follow convention. It is > much like Microsft `enhancing' an industry standard, which actually > breaks the standard. > > -- > Bob Indeed. Chuck, I'm not saying I'm going to stop reading your posts because you don't want to follow convention/etiquette, but it appears that the community at large does not feel the way you do. -- Joshua In the strict scientific sense we all feed on death -- even vegetarians. -- Spock, "Wolf in the Fold", stardate 3615.4 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: drive / IDE controller questions
in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wrote Joey Mingrone thusly... > > I've been having problems with my western digital drive > (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?DriveID=24) for about a year. What that has to do w/ the thread discussing wget & proxy problem? Above message was a *reply* to one of the messages in that thread. It was quite a rude surprise. People, kindly do not hijack a thread; start a new one. Thanks for your cooperation in future. - Parv -- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Top posting
I'm with you... Top-posting makes the most sense for me. I was born to top-post. On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 02:28:24PM -0800, Charles McManis wrote: > Perhaps it isn't "logical", if you've read all the email then the quoted > thread is just reference anyway. This is the "new stuff". I love being able > to read mail in the preview-pane vs "next message" , jump to the bottom, > "next message" jump to the bottom. > > It comes down to opinion I think > --Chuck ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: which 8-port 10/100 hub is best?
On Thursday, 18 March 2004 at 22:54:49 -0600, W. D. wrote: > At 21:45 3/18/2004, Gary Kline, wrote: >> >> People, >> >> I'm upgrading my hub from a 5-port hub and thought I would check >> with this list to see if the Linksys EFAH08W is still a good >> deal. If there is somethng other that would work equally well >> on my FreeBSD netwrk, please le me know. (I've had good luck >> with Linksys, but have read some negative comments.) > > If there is a possibility that you will have some heavy traffic > at times, the best hub is a switch! You are likely to have > less bandwidth wasting collisions during high traffic periods. I'd put it more forcibly than that: hubs are obsolete. You can find switches for almost nothing nowadays; don't buy hubs. And yes, I haven't checked whether the EFAH08W is a switch or a hub. But I've never had problems with cheap switches, so I would tend to buy by price. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Note: I discard all HTML mail unseen. Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Top posting
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004, Charles McManis clacked the keyboard to produce: > Perhaps it isn't "logical", if you've read all the email then the quoted > thread is just reference anyway. This is the "new stuff". I love being able > to read mail in the preview-pane vs "next message" , jump to the bottom, > "next message" jump to the bottom. > > It comes down to opinion I think > --Chuck > > > On Friday 19 March 2004 09:46, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > > On 03/19/04 09:21 AM, Joshua Lokken sat at the `puter and typed: > > > http://www.google.com/search?q=rfc+top+posting&sourceid=mozilla-search&st > > >art=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 > > > > > > > > > > > > Wow, almost every single reply to the list today was top posted. > > > People, please know (and you must, you have to read them, too) > > > that posting replies to the top of an email is, well, counter- > > > intuitive, hard to follow, and goes against the general grain of > > > RFC 1855. Please, it has been requested from many users of this > > > list, do not top post replies, but don't stop sending them ;) > > > > Yes, it has been requested from many users, and quite a few have flat > > out refused to follow this logical norm. Others simply follow the > > precedent set in any given thread, and some few will go so far as to > > delete the trailing messages and try to herd an already errant thread > > in the right direction. For my part, my reply behavior depends on the > > audience. One would think that a company with so many geeks (from > > developers to SW architects) would tend to do this right, but not so. > > > > Bottom line, don't hold your breath. Unfortunately, many mail clients > > don't show the replied email during reply composition but place it > > below the response, and most default to replying at the top anyway. > > Most users just don't bother to correct it when the option is there. > > > > I feel your pain dude. > > > > Lou > [format broken, see above and then back down to here] No, it is not logical. If everyone top-posts, the email must be read in reverse to recapture thoughts of others or points made. If twleve people reply properly and you reply the way your `opinion' tells you too, you have broken the path or reading, by forcing people to jump to the bottom to refresh the last message and then back to the top to get the latest thoughts or info. It is also quite obnoxious to review such top-posters threads that are intermixed when looking through the archives. Finally, as pointed out previously, it does not follow convention. It is much like Microsft `enhancing' an industry standard, which actually breaks the standard. -- Bob "Play is the work of children. It's very serious stuff. And if it's properly structured in a developmental program, children can blossom." -Bob Keeshan aka `Captain Kangaroo' ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Vinum, replaced disk -- fsck error.
On Friday, 19 March 2004 at 3:03:34 +, Lewis Thompson wrote: > On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 01:26:02PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> On Tuesday, 16 March 2004 at 17:25:26 +, Lewis Thompson wrote: >>> I can't think of anything else. Originally I ran dd without the >>> conv=noerror and it stopped at around 25GB (the disk is a 100GB). The >>> destination disk is 123GB but to my knowledge that is acceptable for dd. >>> >>> During the process a number (maybe eight to ten) I/O errors were >>> reported. >> >> But not to me. > > I've included more detailed errors neared to the end of this email :) > >> I was really thinking of "What to do if you have problems with Vinum" >> at http://www.vinumvm.org/vinum/how-to-debug.html. > > Okay, I did actually do my best to follow this but maybe got > sidetracked. I'm just going to bullet point these now so I don't miss > any of them out. > > * Problems: ``dd'' cloned disk ``does not work'' (i.e. gstat shows no > activity on the cloned disk during reading of files). What command did you enter? What happened on the command line? > Also see previous emails. You can't really expect me to go digging for them. > * Changes to system: Originally vinum ran on 4.9-STABLE. This worked > but had periodic ``disk crashes'' (i.e. vinum states disk as offline). > I don't think this is the problem as the same behaviour happens with > 5.2.1-p1 using the original dodgy disk (only GEOM removes it instead > of vinum). It looks like part of the problem to me. It seems that you have a flaky disk. Is that correct? > * Vinum list (excuse lack of wrapping). On the contrary, it shouldn't be wrapped. I don't see anything in this list that hasn't started. Is it correct that volume "data" only has one plex? > * /var/log/messages extract. I originally started vinum a long while > before, I included this entry too (excuse wrapping): > > Mar 17 23:33:57 amnesia kernel: vinum: loaded > Mar 17 23:34:00 amnesia kernel: vinum: reading configuration from /dev/ad1s1h > Mar 17 23:34:00 amnesia kernel: vinum: updating configuration from /dev/ad2s1h > Mar 17 23:34:00 amnesia kernel: vinum: updating configuration from /dev/ad3s1h > Mar 19 02:49:26 amnesia kernel: WARNING: /mnt/data was not properly dismounted > Mar 19 02:52:15 amnesia kernel: vinum: null rqg > > This seems a little odd to me -- previously I had not had a null rqg > error. This is certainly an interesting one. > I think maybe I didn't test it enough. Since these are mostly avi > files I can tell if they are broken on not by seeing if they have an > index -- last time they all played but many without indexes. > Nothing has changed since then; maybe I wasn't being thorough > enough? I'm wondering if the problem isn't at least partially due to the flaky disk. The "null rqg" message indicates that a request couldn't be mapped. I'd really need a dump from this point, if the problem is repeatable. Let me know and I'll send you a patch. >>> During the process a number (maybe eight to ten) I/O errors were >>> reported. > > These were dd errors. I didn't write these down at the time (silly of > me) and I'm not sure they even go into any log files. However, I have > found the exact error messages I got (although the offsets are wrong). > If required I will re-run dd and provide the full errors. > > The messages were: > > dd: reading `/dev/ad3': Input/output error Hmm. Why are you running against /dev/ad3? Why are you using dd at all? In any case, I would expect error messages in /var/log/messages at this point. > In a reply to my original question you stated that ``dd if=ad3 of=ad1 > bs=8192 conv=noerror'' ``may or may not work, depending on details you > haven't reported.'' Do these detailed errors help at all? A little. They tell me that the drive is flaky. I'd expect to see the error messages in /var/log/messages, though. > I just read a thread[1] about dd that makes me wonder whether it > would have been. The only reference I see there is to the current thread. At least it gave me the background. > I think that's everything. I'm just going to include some other stuff > from earlier emails that has been chopped earlier. Maybe it has some > relevance: > > = fsck_ufs /dev/vinum/data gives the following message: > = ** /dev/vinum/data > = cannot alloc 4316869296 bytes for inphead Yes, this is almost certainly due to incorrect copying. Probably the conv=noerror is to blame for that. I suspect that, unless you can read the sections of the volume that appear to be causing the fsck problems, you may be out of luck. About the only thing you could try is to mount the volume read-only without fsck, and then copy what data you can elsewhere. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Note: I discard all HTML mail unseen. Fi
Re: Top posting
Perhaps it isn't "logical", if you've read all the email then the quoted thread is just reference anyway. This is the "new stuff". I love being able to read mail in the preview-pane vs "next message" , jump to the bottom, "next message" jump to the bottom. It comes down to opinion I think --Chuck On Friday 19 March 2004 09:46, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > On 03/19/04 09:21 AM, Joshua Lokken sat at the `puter and typed: > > http://www.google.com/search?q=rfc+top+posting&sourceid=mozilla-search&st > >art=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 > > > > > > > > Wow, almost every single reply to the list today was top posted. > > People, please know (and you must, you have to read them, too) > > that posting replies to the top of an email is, well, counter- > > intuitive, hard to follow, and goes against the general grain of > > RFC 1855. Please, it has been requested from many users of this > > list, do not top post replies, but don't stop sending them ;) > > Yes, it has been requested from many users, and quite a few have flat > out refused to follow this logical norm. Others simply follow the > precedent set in any given thread, and some few will go so far as to > delete the trailing messages and try to herd an already errant thread > in the right direction. For my part, my reply behavior depends on the > audience. One would think that a company with so many geeks (from > developers to SW architects) would tend to do this right, but not so. > > Bottom line, don't hold your breath. Unfortunately, many mail clients > don't show the replied email during reply composition but place it > below the response, and most default to replying at the top anyway. > Most users just don't bother to correct it when the option is there. > > I feel your pain dude. > > Lou ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: CMS on FreeBSD
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 01:53:04PM -0500, Scott I. Remick wrote: > I'm thinking about setting up a FreeBSD-based CMS/intranet and wanted to > know what other people were doing. you should at least read through some of the material on zope. its well maintained in the ports collection -- take a look at the zope cmf and plone material > I'm also concerned about Plone using its own webserver. I feel very good > using Apache as I've a lot of experience with it, and I like the idea of > delegating components to groups with that strength. I also don't know > Python, but could try and learn if Plone was worth it. most people run zope/cmf/plone in back of apache with mod_proxy and rewrite.. > > What are other people doing for CMS on FreeBSD? Just how different is Plone > from the *Nukes? Are there fundamental differences I need to understand? > Can I do everything I want to with Plone without having to become a Python > expert, code my own modules, etc? don't know anything about Nukes but Plone is very good. -- David Bear phone: 480-965-8257 fax:480-965-9189 College of Public Programs/ASU Wilson Hall 232 Tempe, AZ 85287-0803 "Beware the IP portfolio, everyone will be suspect of trespassing" ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: CMS on FreeBSD
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 03:25:17PM -0500, Scott I. Remick wrote: > Drupal looks really nice. Do you have any thoughts on Drupal vs. Mambo? I've used both, but neither very much. I can only tell you that my boss went from Mambo to Drupal - I guess he found it easier to hack on. That's the thing - if you can find one you really like, and learn the internals, you can use it for many differnet things. It's so nice to be able to throw up a fully functional website in an evening. > Hmmm it occurred to me that one module/component I'd really be interested > in is some sort of organized (hierarchy) knowledgebase that is also > searchable. This sounds like a wiki.. http://c2.com/cgi/wiki http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/ Enjoy! dan ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Pango/freetype
Sorry if this has been discussed before (I'd be surprised if it hasn't). I'm trying to build pango on my system (up-to-date 5.2.1), but it's choking (see below)... I see on archived mailing lists, people are discussing Freetype and Pango, and how _something_ isn't working, but I see no solutions for a fix. Is there a fix for this? "make" output in pango port: gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/pango/work/pango-1.2.5/pango/opentype' /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=compile cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -DPANGO_ENABLE_ENGINE -DSYSCONFDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/etc\" -DLIBDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/ ib\" -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DG_DISABLE_CAST_CHECKS -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/in lude -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../.. -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2 0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -O -pipe -march=pentiumpro -Wall -c pango-ot-info.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -DPANGO_ENABLE_ENGINE -DSYSCONFDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/etc\" -DLIBDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/lib\" -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DG_DIS BLE_CAST_CHECKS -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 - /usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../.. -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/us /local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -O -pipe -march=pentiumpro -Wall -c pango-ot-info.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/pango-ot-info.o pango-ot-info.c:25:31: freetype/ftmodapi.h: No such file or directory gmake[3]: *** [pango-ot-info.lo] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/pango/work/pango-1.2.5/pango/opentype' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/pango/work/pango-1.2.5/pango' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/pango/work/pango-1.2.5' gmake: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/pango. -- -bch ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
DVD R/W in FreeBSD?
Does FreeBSD support ATA DVD writers the same way that it supports CD writers? I have been to SOS's web page, and have looked at hardware support info, but have found no hint at whether ATA DVD writers are supported under FreeBSD. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Ed Alley ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: CMS on FreeBSD
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 14:05:45 -0600, Dan Rue wrote: > > Umm.. I don't know what other people think about this - but I really > never run any PHP stuff from ports. It is easier, imo, to just download > the tgz and unzip it to the directory you want it in. Since there's no > compiling, usually very little setup, it's just _easier_ and gives you > more control if you just do it yourself. Of course, the cruddy thing > about that is updating. > > Therefore, the reason why I think the cms' in ports are old is because > most people don't port install them - it's just not worth it. Ahh, I see. That would explain a lot, then. Makes sense. > As far as which cms to use, I'm currently undecided as well. My boss > really likes drupal, and forces me to use it :) Drupal looks really nice. Do you have any thoughts on Drupal vs. Mambo? > Check out > opensourcecms.com - they showcase dozens of php cms' and let you try > them out. Beat ya to it... I already stumbled across it just a short while ago and am currently playing around. :) Hmmm it occurred to me that one module/component I'd really be interested in is some sort of organized (hierarchy) knowledgebase that is also searchable. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Zope
I ran ./start -u root and that is the only way it works. If I use any other user it gives permission denied errors in the browser (when accessing on port 8080 and 8080/manage) or the following output on the command line (when accessing the normal website on port 80 which apache is rewriting for): -- 2004-03-19T15:11:37 ERROR(200) DirectoryView Error during prepareContents: Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 198, in getContents File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 215, in prepareContents File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 47, in _filtered_listdir OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/lib/python/Products/CMFDefault/skins/Images' -- 2004-03-19T15:11:37 ERROR(200) DirectoryView Error during prepareContents: Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 198, in getContents File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 215, in prepareContents File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 47, in _filtered_listdir OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/lib/python/Products/CMFDefault/skins/control' -- 2004-03-19T15:11:37 ERROR(200) DirectoryView Error during prepareContents: Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 198, in getContents File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 215, in prepareContents File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 47, in _filtered_listdir OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/lib/python/Products/CMFDefault/skins/generic' -- 2004-03-19T15:11:37 ERROR(200) DirectoryView Error during prepareContents: Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 198, in getContents File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 215, in prepareContents File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 47, in _filtered_listdir OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/lib/python/Products/CMFDefault/skins/content' -- 2004-03-19T15:11:37 ERROR(200) DirectoryView Error during prepareContents: Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 198, in getContents File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 215, in prepareContents File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 47, in _filtered_listdir OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/lib/python/Products/CMFCalendar/skins/calendar' -- 2004-03-19T15:11:37 ERROR(200) DirectoryView Error during prepareContents: Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 198, in getContents File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 215, in prepareContents File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 47, in _filtered_listdir OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/lib/python/Products/CMFTopic/skins/topic' -- 2004-03-19T15:11:37 ERROR(200) DirectoryView Error during prepareContents: Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 198, in getContents File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 215, in prepareContents File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 47, in _filtered_listdir OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/lib/python/Products/CMFDefault/skins/zpt_control' -- 2004-03-19T15:11:37 ERROR(200) DirectoryView Error during prepareContents: Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 198, in getContents File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 215, in prepareContents File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 47, in _filtered_listdir OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/lib/python/Products/CMFDefault/skins/zpt_generic' -- 2004-03-19T15:11:37 ERROR(200) DirectoryView Error during prepareContents: Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 198, in getContents File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 215, in prepareContents File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/DirectoryView.py, line 47, in _fi
Re: drive / IDE controller questions
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > Another early guess might also be overheating problems. I am not sure how > > you would check other than trying to make it cooler. > > > > jerry > > > > > > Could be.. although I have almost always had the case open and I have two case > fans. The CPU temp is usually in the 40s or 50s C (not too bad for a 1.6GHz > Athlon) and the memory is usually around 25C. ..but maybe I'll try pointing > a fan at it. Actually, I mean the disk overheating. They do that and they get worse at it as they age too. Also, some cases are designed to aid in the cooling and so with the case open, the airflow is either not properly directed or it doesn't get enough of a Bernouli or hydraulic effect, either of which is used to increase the air flow speed in critical areas. Of course, if it is a generic case that is probably not a consideration. jerry > > Thanks, > > joey > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) > > iD8DBQFAW1P90NQPEWppBZsRAjA1AKDECIaip9NIehDE3Gm0P6aeXV1SSQCgtp8+ > J1F13XmVghOIiEkvQTuHn0Q= > =Uogh > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: drive / IDE controller questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > > Another early guess might also be overheating problems. I am not sure how > you would check other than trying to make it cooler. > > jerry > Could be.. although I have almost always had the case open and I have two case fans. The CPU temp is usually in the 40s or 50s C (not too bad for a 1.6GHz Athlon) and the memory is usually around 25C. ..but maybe I'll try pointing a fan at it. Thanks, joey -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAW1P90NQPEWppBZsRAjA1AKDECIaip9NIehDE3Gm0P6aeXV1SSQCgtp8+ J1F13XmVghOIiEkvQTuHn0Q= =Uogh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: CMS on FreeBSD
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 01:53:04PM -0500, Scott I. Remick wrote: > I'm thinking about setting up a FreeBSD-based CMS/intranet and wanted to > know what other people were doing. > > I have a tiny bit of experience with PHP-Nuke because my webhost uses it. > Although I have no real complaints about it, I am not wedded to it. > > PHP-Nuke is in ports and was recently upgraded to 6.9 after stagnating at > 6.0 for a long time. This makes me concerned that if I invested in it, and > the need for an update came, I might be SOL for a while due to lack of a > maintainer. As it is right now, it is marked FORBIDDEN due to a > vulnerability with versions below 7.1. > > Also, there seems to be a lot of hatred towards PHP-Nuke. I don't claim to > understand it, but I can accept they might know something I don't. I do > know that PHP is rather easy for me to work with, as I've tweaked many > pages on my hosted site. I am also not turned away by the fact that > PHP-Nuke depends on MySQL as I have used it with Bugzilla and it doesn't > scare me. > > Looking at other options, there comes Postnuke. Seems a pretty-popular > close-relation to PHP-Nuke, however the version in ports seems 2+ years > old. So there is the maintainership issue again. And a lot of people hate > BOTH *Nukes, for perhaps good reasons I don't totally grasp, so there's > that too. > > Diverging a bit, I noticed Drupal. Currently in ports but broken. Umm.. I don't know what other people think about this - but I really never run any PHP stuff from ports. It is easier, imo, to just download the tgz and unzip it to the directory you want it in. Since there's no compiling, usually very little setup, it's just _easier_ and gives you more control if you just do it yourself. Of course, the cruddy thing about that is updating. Therefore, the reason why I think the cms' in ports are old is because most people don't port install them - it's just not worth it. Just follow the instructions that come with the PHP app - usually you'll have to create a database in mysql for it to use. The instructions are usually really good with that stuff. As far as which cms to use, I'm currently undecided as well. My boss really likes drupal, and forces me to use it :) Check out opensourcecms.com - they showcase dozens of php cms' and let you try them out. Good Luck - Dan ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: drive / IDE controller questions
> > Hi, > > I've been having problems with my western digital drive > (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?DriveID=24) for about a year. > I've posted messages about this before, but I have some new information that > may be relevant. > > The problem started out when I would randomly hear the drive restarting. It > would make a high pitch sound that would increase in pitch and last a second > or two (The same sound the drive makes when you power on the system). > Messages similar to the ones below would also appear in /var/log/messages: > > ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting > /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. ata0-slave: ATA identify retries exceeded > > ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting > > At first, these drive resets would only happen once or twice and everything > would go back to normal. Eventually they would happen over and over until > the system became unusable and wouldn't boot up even after running fsck in > singal user mode with all the partitions unmount or mounted read only. I > found a temporary solution was to run the western digital diagnostic tools > and then run fsck. I would usually have a small amount of data > corruption/loss but the system would be usable again. Things would be fine > for a week or longer, but the problem would eventually reappear. Finally I > contacted WD and they sent me a replacement drive (It was the same model, but > a refurbished drive that I'm guessing was sent back by someone else). After > a few tries I managed to get dd to copy the contents of the old drive to the > new drive and for quite some time everything was great. But, the other day > the new drive began to have the same problem as the old one. > > So now, I'm guessing the problem may lie with the controller on the main board > (http://usa.asus.com/mb/socketa/a7v266-e/overview.htm). Another early guess might also be overheating problems. I am not sure how you would check other than trying to make it cooler. jerry > > My main board has the optional raid controller. Would it be possible to use > that controller with my current drive, or would the secondary controller be a > better solution? > > Other notes: > > I've tried a few different IDE cables. > I don't think it has anything to do with the OS since the resets have happened > before the OS starts to boot and in the BIOS. > > I've included a uname -a, dmesg output and my kernel config file below. Any > tips would be much appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Joey > > uname -a: > FreeBSD *hostname* 4.9-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p2 #0: Mon Feb 9 > 03:08:50 AST 2004 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KERNEL_CONFIG_2004-02-09 i386 > > dmesg: > Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p2 #0: Mon Feb 9 03:08:50 AST 2004 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/2004-02-09 > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz > CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) XP1600+ (1410.21-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x662 Stepping = 2 > > Features=0x383f9ff > AMD Features=0xc048 > real memory = 536788992 (524208K bytes) > avail memory = 518852608 (506692K bytes) > Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0364000. > Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc036409c. > Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled > md0: Malloc disk > Using $PIR table, 10 entries at 0xc00f1480 > apm0: on motherboard > apm0: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 > npx0: on motherboard > npx0: INT 16 interface > pcib0: on motherboard > pci0: on pcib0 > agp0: mem 0xf800-0xfbff at device 0.0 > on pci0 > pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 > pci1: on pcib1 > pci1: at 0.0 irq 11 > atapci0: port > 0xb400-0xb43f,0xb800-0xb803,0xd000-0xd007,0xd400-0xd403,0xd800-0xd807 mem > 0xf380-0xf381 irq 5 at device 6.0 on pci0 > ata2: at 0xd800 on atapci0 > ata3: at 0xd000 on atapci0 > pcm0: port 0xb000-0xb01f irq 10 at device 15.0 on pci0 > pcm0: > rl0: port 0xa400-0xa4ff mem 0xf300-0xf3ff > irq 5 at device 16.0 on pci0 > rl0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:4c:00:30:22 > miibus0: on rl0 > rlphy0: on miibus0 > rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto > isab0: at device 17.0 on pci0 > isa0: on isab0 > atapci1: port 0xa000-0xa00f irq 0 at device 17.1 > on pci0 > ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci1 > ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci1 > uhci0: port 0x9800-0x981f irq 5 at device 17.2 on > pci0 > usb0: on uhci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhci1: port 0x9400-0x941f irq 5 at device 17.3 on > pci0 > usb1: on uhci1 > usb1: USB revision 1.0 > uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhci2: p
RE: 5.1 & mysql problem - solved
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: 5.1 & mysql problem > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >I installed Freebsd 5.1-release. > > > > > >I then installed lynx from the ports system > > >without problem. > > > > > >I then installed apache13 from ports without > > >problem. > > > > > >When I tried to install mysql323-client. I did > > >this by cd /usr/ports/databases/mysql323-client. > > >I then did a make. It trundled away for a while, > > >and eventually errored out. > > > > > >configure: error: Your compiler cannot convert a > > >longlong value to a float! > > > > > >I tried to install mysql323-server but it errored > > >out the same way. > > > > > >Any ideas why it won't compile ? I checked the > > >version of gcc the system is using, and the > > >man page say gcc-3.2.1. > > > > > > > > Do you have to use mysql323-client? Did you tried the newest mysql > > client from the newest port tree? > > > I was trying to install mysql323-client on a machine. I > wanted the same > mysql version as what is on my production box. So, I'd prefer not to > install mysql40-client. > > thanks, > Darryl After some googling, I found the following solution: 1. cd /usr/ports/databases/mysql323-client 2. rm -rf work 3. make extract 4. vi work/mysql-3.23.56/config find longlong. in the function that follows, change close to fclose. save file. 5. make 6. make install works like a champ. Seems to be a bug in the config script. thanks, Darryl ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
drive / IDE controller questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I've been having problems with my western digital drive (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?DriveID=24) for about a year. I've posted messages about this before, but I have some new information that may be relevant. The problem started out when I would randomly hear the drive restarting. It would make a high pitch sound that would increase in pitch and last a second or two (The same sound the drive makes when you power on the system). Messages similar to the ones below would also appear in /var/log/messages: ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. ata0-slave: ATA identify retries exceeded ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting At first, these drive resets would only happen once or twice and everything would go back to normal. Eventually they would happen over and over until the system became unusable and wouldn't boot up even after running fsck in singal user mode with all the partitions unmount or mounted read only. I found a temporary solution was to run the western digital diagnostic tools and then run fsck. I would usually have a small amount of data corruption/loss but the system would be usable again. Things would be fine for a week or longer, but the problem would eventually reappear. Finally I contacted WD and they sent me a replacement drive (It was the same model, but a refurbished drive that I'm guessing was sent back by someone else). After a few tries I managed to get dd to copy the contents of the old drive to the new drive and for quite some time everything was great. But, the other day the new drive began to have the same problem as the old one. So now, I'm guessing the problem may lie with the controller on the main board (http://usa.asus.com/mb/socketa/a7v266-e/overview.htm). My main board has the optional raid controller. Would it be possible to use that controller with my current drive, or would the secondary controller be a better solution? Other notes: I've tried a few different IDE cables. I don't think it has anything to do with the OS since the resets have happened before the OS starts to boot and in the BIOS. I've included a uname -a, dmesg output and my kernel config file below. Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks, Joey uname -a: FreeBSD *hostname* 4.9-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p2 #0: Mon Feb 9 03:08:50 AST 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KERNEL_CONFIG_2004-02-09 i386 dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p2 #0: Mon Feb 9 03:08:50 AST 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/2004-02-09 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) XP1600+ (1410.21-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x662 Stepping = 2 Features=0x383f9ff AMD Features=0xc048 real memory = 536788992 (524208K bytes) avail memory = 518852608 (506692K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0364000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc036409c. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk Using $PIR table, 10 entries at 0xc00f1480 apm0: on motherboard apm0: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xf800-0xfbff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 irq 11 atapci0: port 0xb400-0xb43f,0xb800-0xb803,0xd000-0xd007,0xd400-0xd403,0xd800-0xd807 mem 0xf380-0xf381 irq 5 at device 6.0 on pci0 ata2: at 0xd800 on atapci0 ata3: at 0xd000 on atapci0 pcm0: port 0xb000-0xb01f irq 10 at device 15.0 on pci0 pcm0: rl0: port 0xa400-0xa4ff mem 0xf300-0xf3ff irq 5 at device 16.0 on pci0 rl0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:4c:00:30:22 miibus0: on rl0 rlphy0: on miibus0 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto isab0: at device 17.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci1: port 0xa000-0xa00f irq 0 at device 17.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci1 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci1 uhci0: port 0x9800-0x981f irq 5 at device 17.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0x9400-0x941f irq 5 at device 17.3 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0x9000-0x901f irq 5 at device 17.4 on pci0 usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered orm0: at iomem 0xcc000-0xc on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes thr
Best port for mail stats
Hi all :) I'm using mailgraph-1.7 actually, and I was wondering if there was a better port to elaborate that kind of statistics, because I found mailgraph weird and not easily readable... maybe too complex. Every advice would be welcome :) -- Léo Lapousterle - Paris, France. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: ld-elf, libkvm out of sync, can't build ports
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I looked over my supfile and it is absolutly generic, but just to be > sure > I'm going to get the latest one in /usr/share. The one I have been using > is included below. > # IMPORTANT: Change the next line to use one of the CVSup mirror sites # > listed at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/mirrors.html. > *default host=cvsup13.FreeBSD.org i'm not sure whether this just affected me, but i remember having problems with cvsup13 a while ago and switched to another one. mario;> - - - - - - - - House Of Sites - - - - - - - - Web Design :: Programming :: Hosting :: Maintenance Web site: http://www.HouseOfSites.net Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 415-242-3376 Do you schmut!? http://www.schmut.com http://blog.schmut.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: ipfw question...
At 12:40 3/19/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: >If you would >like I can post my IPFW rules. They are extemly simple for my SSH, POP3, >SMTP, NTP, IMAP, BIND8 setup... Please do! Could you also include plain English comments as well? There are a number of people that find these rules confusing. Some well documented descriptions would be very helpful. Thanks! Start Here to Find It Fast! -> http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: ld-elf, libkvm out of sync, can't build ports
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 03:13:42PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Running 4.9 STABLE, fresh cvsup of src and ports. Kernel builds and > > installs fine, but none of my ports will build. gkrellm and postgresql, > > just to name a couple. > > > > Linking stops with error message: > > > > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/lib/libkvm.so.2: Undefined symbol > > "__stderrp" > > > > It looks as if I need to update or rebuild libkvm, but I can't find > > anything that explains how. > > > > How can I fix this? > > Looks like you dont in fact have an up-to-date 4.9-STABLE system; that > symbol is in libc (and has been for a long time now): > > > objdump -T /usr/lib/libc.so.4 | grep stderrp > 0008797c gDO .data 0004 __stderrp > > Post your cvsupfile if you need additional help figuring out what went > wrong with your upgrade. Thanks, Kris! I looked over my supfile and it is absolutly generic, but just to be sure I'm going to get the latest one in /usr/share. The one I have been using is included below. I did that objdump command on my system and got this: 0008567c gDO .data 0004 __stderrp and the dir listing is: -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 580540 Mar 18 11:54 /usr/lib/libc.so.4 so it appears to have been built yesterday, the last time I built my kernel. Why does the complaint come from libkvm if the symbol is in libc? Is my C compiler out of whack? Here's my supfile: # $FreeBSD: src/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile,v 1.19.2.4 2000/08/18 18:50:21 jkh Exp $ # # This file contains all of the "CVSup collections" that make up the # FreeBSD-stable source tree. # # CVSup (CVS Update Protocol) allows you to download the latest CVS # tree (or any branch of development therefrom) to your system easily # and efficiently (far more so than with sup, which CVSup is aimed # at replacing). If you're running CVSup interactively, and are # currently using an X display server, you should run CVSup as follows # to keep your CVS tree up-to-date: # # cvsup stable-supfile # # If not running X, or invoking cvsup from a non-interactive script, then # run it as follows: # # cvsup -g -L 2 stable-supfile # # You may wish to change some of the settings in this file to better # suit your system: # # host=CHANGE_THIS.FreeBSD.org # This specifies the server host which will supply the # file updates. You must change it to one of the CVSup # mirror sites listed in the FreeBSD Handbook at # http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/mirrors.html. # You can override this setting on the command line # with cvsup's "-h host" option. # # base=/usr # This specifies the root where CVSup will store information # about the collections you have transferred to your system. # A setting of "/usr" will generate this information in # /usr/sup. Even if you are CVSupping a large number of # collections, you will be hard pressed to generate more than # ~1MB of data in this directory. You can override the # "base" setting on the command line with cvsup's "-b base" # option. This directory must exist in order to run CVSup. # # prefix=/usr # This specifies where to place the requested files. A # setting of "/usr" will place all of the files requested # in "/usr/src" (e.g., "/usr/src/bin", "/usr/src/lib"). # The prefix directory must exist in order to run CVSup. # ### # # DANGER! WARNING! LOOK OUT! VORSICHT! # # If you add any of the ports collections to this file, be sure to # specify them like this: # # ports-all tag=. # # If you leave out the "tag=." portion, CVSup will delete all of # the files in your ports tree. That is because the ports collections # do not use the same tags as the main part of the FreeBSD source tree. # ### # Defaults that apply to all the collections # # IMPORTANT: Change the next line to use one of the CVSup mirror sites # listed at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/mirrors.html. *default host=cvsup13.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr # The following line is for 4-stable. If you want 3-stable or 2.2-stable, # change "RELENG_4" to "RELENG_3" or "RELENG_2_2" respectively. *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 *default delete use-rel-suffix # If your network link is a T1 or faster, comment out the following line. *default compress ## Main Source Tree. # # The easiest way to get the main source tree is to use the "src-all" # mega-collection. It includes all of the individual "src-*" collections. # Please note: If you want to track -STABLE, leave this uncommented. src-all # These are the individual collections that make up "src-all". If you # use these, be sure to comment out "src
atacontrol addspare missing in -stable
Hi all, how do I rebuild a degraded RADI1 in -stable? I have a HighPoint 372 Controller and yesterday had one drive failed (wich it does regularly and comes back fine after reboot). "atacontrol status ar0" reported only one disk (ad4) and degraded (of course). In -current with a SIL0680 I usually issue "atacontrol detach $failedchannel && atacontrol attach $failedchannel && atacontrol addspare $faileddrive ar0 && atacontrol rebuild ar0" Please give me an idea how things should work under -stable (from ~3 weeks ago). Thanks, -Harry pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: CMS on FreeBSD
Hi Scott, > I'm thinking about setting up a FreeBSD-based CMS/intranet and wanted to > know what other people were doing. I'm running an intranet site on a Pentium 1, 80 MB RAM, 120 MHz and a 30GB Harddisk. I'm using Mambo 4.5, which can be downloaded at http://www.mamboserver.com or with a lot of templates at http://www.mamboportal.com. It only uses Apache, MySQL ann d PHP4 Jack ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
lpt0 stopped working after upgrading
Hello, I recently upgraded to the latest -CURRENT and afterwards my printer would no longer print over Samba via CUPS. At first I thought it was a CUPS/Samba problem so I deinstalled and recompiled both of those but the problem still remains. CUPS recieves the print jobs ok and tries to print but in the web interface it says something along the lines of "parallel port busy, retrying in 30 seconds..." and indeed trying echo hello > /dev/lpt0 says device busy. I deleted the printer from CUPS yesterday to discover that lpt0 is no longer in the drop down list where you select where the printer is attached (serial 0 and 1, parallel etc). I have unplugged the printer lead and tried too and I get the same device busy, but maybe that's supposed to happen if there's nothing plugged in? Also on boot the printer gets recognised properly with the lead in. I have also tried disabling ACPI in BIOS as I read somewhere that this may solve the problem, but it's the same :o) Can anyone help me? Should I post this to the current list instead? Thanks ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
CMS on FreeBSD
I'm thinking about setting up a FreeBSD-based CMS/intranet and wanted to know what other people were doing. I have a tiny bit of experience with PHP-Nuke because my webhost uses it. Although I have no real complaints about it, I am not wedded to it. PHP-Nuke is in ports and was recently upgraded to 6.9 after stagnating at 6.0 for a long time. This makes me concerned that if I invested in it, and the need for an update came, I might be SOL for a while due to lack of a maintainer. As it is right now, it is marked FORBIDDEN due to a vulnerability with versions below 7.1. Also, there seems to be a lot of hatred towards PHP-Nuke. I don't claim to understand it, but I can accept they might know something I don't. I do know that PHP is rather easy for me to work with, as I've tweaked many pages on my hosted site. I am also not turned away by the fact that PHP-Nuke depends on MySQL as I have used it with Bugzilla and it doesn't scare me. Looking at other options, there comes Postnuke. Seems a pretty-popular close-relation to PHP-Nuke, however the version in ports seems 2+ years old. So there is the maintainership issue again. And a lot of people hate BOTH *Nukes, for perhaps good reasons I don't totally grasp, so there's that too. Diverging a bit, I noticed Drupal. Currently in ports but broken. Most promising seems Plone, which is based upon Zope. But it seems to be tremendously different from *nuke. The ports version is current and appears to work, but poking around the Plone site I wasn't able to get a feel for whether it truly can provide all the stuff I'm looking for. These are things such as: - Discussion forums - 3rd-party themes (I'm not looking to develop my own themes... I'm looking to get this up fast. Instead I'm looking for an established community of Plone-theme creators who like to create custom themes available for download, so I can pick one that appeals to me) - Polls - a variety of other modules/blocks (strength of the *nukes, but couldn't find a similar following for Plone). I'm also concerned about Plone using its own webserver. I feel very good using Apache as I've a lot of experience with it, and I like the idea of delegating components to groups with that strength. I also don't know Python, but could try and learn if Plone was worth it. This would be for an intranet site for about 100 employees. Looking to replace the mass-mailed MS Word "newsletter", as well as provide a place to centrally discuss topics without having to try and hold meetings (and leaving things unaddressed because you're unable to pull a meeting together), give people a "classifieds" board, etc. What are other people doing for CMS on FreeBSD? Just how different is Plone from the *Nukes? Are there fundamental differences I need to understand? Can I do everything I want to with Plone without having to become a Python expert, code my own modules, etc? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Building Packages - Links to Tutorials?
On 3/7/2004 1:15 PM Remko Lodder wrote: I am not sure but perhaps after the make -DCLIENT_ONLY=yes stuff you can do make package, this should in my opinion make the package you can install everywhere you wish (freebsd ofcourse). Note that i did not read any explaination about this, and i just assume this when i "decode" the command into explaination. Just to inform you, I tried these steps but the package still wants to be installed. First I did "make -DWITH_CLIENT_ONLY=YES build". Then I did "make package" and got an error about deinstalling the package before installing again. Thanks for your help. Drew -- Kind regards, Remko Lodder Elvandar.org/DSINet.org www.mostly-harmless.nl Dutch community for helping newcomers on the hackerscene mrtg.grunn.org Dutch mirror of MRTG -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Drew Tomlinson Verzonden: zondag 7 maart 2004 22:13 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: Building Packages - Links to Tutorials? Sean Ellis told a big fish story including the following on 3/6/2004 12:51 PM: On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 01:34:20PM -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote: I have a "faster" machine that I'd like to use to build packages and then install those packages on my "slower" machine. I'm looking for links to info describing this process and some best practices. I'm familiar with using portupgrade to build and install ports. I've read the portupgrade man pages and see options to build and install packages but am not understanding how to put it all together. Check this out. http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/07/FreeBSD_Basics.html .. under "Making a Package Repository". Thanks, that helps. Now, is there any way to make a package without installing it? For example, on my build machine I have the full version of bacula installed. However, I'd like to make a package that is built with the "CLIENT_ONLY=YES" option. So do I really have to build and install it "wrong" on the build machine and then rebuild and install it "right" just to get the package I want to install on another machine? Seem like there would be a better way. Thanks, Drew ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re[2]: 5.2(x)-RELEASE panic booting
Hi Guy Harrison, you wrote. >> Do you get the same result if booting without ACPI? GH> Yes. I'm assuming here that the [default] boot option does not have ACPI GH> enabled (if so, how to disable it?). The boot results are identical to GH> when I select option 2 to boot with ACPI enabled. > I too get a page fault when trying to boot from that ISO on a P3 1GHZ > with SiS 630 chipset. I think my memory is fine as it ran through 10 memtest runs > without a single problem (my original motivation was to install 5.2.1 > on that box to check whether the weird MySQL issue really doesn't > exist on Intel CPUs). > > > It is fine on an Athlon XP2400 using VIA KT400 based mainboard though. Not my month this - you name it, and its gone wrong, packed up, vanished or plonked itself nicely into the bizarre category. Fwiw, it appears I have a cheap Alladin V clone. Booting can be achieved by disabling power management in the BIOS *plus* fiddling with an IRQ3 option that I don't fully understand (can't get a decent bios manual). That'll get the machine to boot. Next problem manifests itself as dodgy ram - gcc & bz2 failures. Default CS latency is "Auto" but setting it specifically to match the ram (CS=2) improves things greatly. The north/south bridge chips don't match any datasheet - iirc it appears one is off one particular release series, the other off the next mobo release. Finally nailed the remaining reliability problem down to UDMA. Moment I turned it off, spurious faults went away and haven't re-occurred since. Obviously this mobo is a pile of junk. On the off-chance there's useful info to be had, here's how it fires up currently... Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Feb 23 20:45:55 GMT 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc09e3000. Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (350.80-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x580 Stepping = 0 Features=0x8001bf AMD Features=0x8800 real memory = 201326592 (192 MB) avail memory = 185921536 (177 MB) npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcibios: BIOS version 2.10 Using $PIR table, 7 entries at 0xc00f7dd0 pcib0: at pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pci_cfgintr: 0:14 INTA BIOS irq 11 pci_cfgintr: 0:16 INTA BIOS irq 10 pci_cfgintr: 0:18 INTA BIOS irq 9 agp0: mem 0xe000-0xe3ff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at device 14.0 (no driver attached) atapci0: port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 15.0 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata0: [MPSAFE] ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 ata1: [MPSAFE] vr0: port 0xdc00-0xdcff mem 0xdf00-0xdfff irq 10 at device 16.0 on pci0 vr0: Ethernet address: 00:40:f4:8c:7d:f8 miibus0: on vr0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto ahc0: port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xdfffd000-0xdfffdfff irq 9 at device 18.0 on pci0 aic7860: Ultra Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 3/253 SCBs orm0: at iomem 0xc8000-0xc87ff,0xc-0xc7fff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 fdc0: at port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0x10 sio1: port may not be enabled sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) Timecounter "TSC" frequency 350796635 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec GEOM: create disk ad0 dp=0xc26d6160 ad0: 114473MB [232581/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 acd0: DVDROM at ata0-slave PIO4 GEOM: create disk ad2 dp=0xc2733560 ad2: 6149MB [13328/15/63] at ata1-master UDMA33 acd1: CDRW at ata1-slave PIO4 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s4a [snip] I wouldn't mind a hint on the audio side? Card used to work fine in another machine running 4.7-REL (Ensoniq AudioPCI). I'm a bi
Re: Problems using ppp as a server
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 17:34:16 +0300 (MSK) "ejff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> probably wrote: > Hello, i have a problem using ppp as a server. > When i start it like this: > > root # ppp -direct server > > it prints out a garbage: > > ~Ъ}#ю!}!}!} }=}(}"}'}"}"}&} } } } }!}$}%э}%}&?Е3i}#}%б#}%Cц~~Ъ}#ю!}!}!} > }=}(}"}'}"}"}&} } } } }!}$}%э}%}&?Е3i}#}%б#}%Cц~~Ъ}#ю!}!}!} }=}(}"}'}"} > "}&} } } } }!}$}%э}%}&?Е3i}#}%б#}%Cц~~Ъ}#ю!}!}!} }=}(}"}'}"}"}&} } } } > }!}$}%э}%}&?Е3i}#}%б#}%Cц~~Ъ}#ю!}!}!} }=}(}"}'}"}"}&} } } } }!}$}%э}% > }&?Е3i}#}%б#}%Cц~ It doesn't work this way. ppp's standard input and output should be directed to the device. > THE MAIN PROBLEM IS THAT I CAN NOT MAKE MY MODEM TO ANSWER TO THE > CONNECTION REQUEST AUTOMATICALLY. Find the section RECEIVING INCOMING PPP CONNECTIONS in $ man ppp FWIW I'm using method No2. > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: using wget for FETCH_CMD
In the last episode (Mar 19), Brady Montz said: > Dan Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > In the last episode (Mar 19), Brady Montz said: > >> The problem is, that I while I fetch does seem to be able to > >> download HTTP urls, I can't get it to download FTP urls through > >> the proxy. > >> > >> I've tried various combinations of FTP_PROXY and FTP_PASSIVE_MODE. > >> Is there anything else I can set? > > > > Setting FTP_PROXY to http://proxyserver:port/ works for me and a > > squid proxy. If it's using a proxy, I don't think FTP_PASSIVE_MODE > > is checked. > > Sadly, it doesn't work for me. And, as much as I hate this proxy > server, it is what I have to go through. What doesn't work, exactly? Try comparing the output of "fetch -vv ftp://ftp.netscape.com/Welcome"; and "wget -d ftp://ftp.netscape.com/Welcome";. -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Downgrading 4.9-stable to 4.9-release-p3
On Friday 19 March 2004 06:48 am, Toomas Aas wrote: > Hi! > > Kent Stewart wrote: > > My question is how is the typical sysadmin going to tell which ones > > were built dynamically. > > file /path/to/program > That tells you whether the program is static or dynamic but it doesn't tell you if it used one of the openssl libraries. I think you are going to have to read a number of Makefiles to figure that out. A clever script person could automate it with find and exec but the quantity of information that you would still have to look at could be huge. Would it be worth the effort. I can rebuild my userland and kernel and be running it in around 30 minutes. You can't lookup very many programs, build the static ones that use openssl, and install them in that amount of time. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: ipfw question...
> Hi list, I've this network configuration: > > router (169.158.120.177) > server1 (169.158.120.178) running bind (named), tacacs+, exim, and a pop3 > server > server2 (169.158.120.179) running squid, apache2, mysql, proftpd (is > acting > as a GATEWAY) > > I've a LAN (192.168.1.0/24) and a breaking apart "LAN" (192.168.2.0/8, > 192.168.2.8/8, 192.168.2.16/8), my question is: I want to protect my LAN, > "LAN" and servers from the outside, I want to use ipfw, I have compiled a > kernel in server2 (FreeBSD-4.8 on both servers) and I'm blocked (in & > out), > I've some doubts about adding rules 'cause I've been seeing so many > samples > on the net and I'm a little bit confused...any suggestion about > configuration ??? one thing that I learned was to make sure when you start opening ports (IE you have DENY ALL as default) that you start with the lowest port number.. I for the life of me could not get SMTP working, so I moved it from the bottom of my IPFW rules to the top, and walla it worked. If you would like I can post my IPFW rules. They are extemly simple for my SSH, POP3, SMTP, NTP, IMAP, BIND8 setup... ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
ipfw question...
Hi list, I've this network configuration: router (169.158.120.177) server1 (169.158.120.178) running bind (named), tacacs+, exim, and a pop3 server server2 (169.158.120.179) running squid, apache2, mysql, proftpd (is acting as a GATEWAY) I've a LAN (192.168.1.0/24) and a breaking apart "LAN" (192.168.2.0/8, 192.168.2.8/8, 192.168.2.16/8), my question is: I want to protect my LAN, "LAN" and servers from the outside, I want to use ipfw, I have compiled a kernel in server2 (FreeBSD-4.8 on both servers) and I'm blocked (in & out), I've some doubts about adding rules 'cause I've been seeing so many samples on the net and I'm a little bit confused...any suggestion about configuration ??? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Top posting
> >etiquetteetiquette > http://www.google.com/search?q=rfc+top+posting&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 > > > > Wow, almost every single reply to the list today was top posted. > People, please know (and you must, you have to read them, too) > that posting replies to the top of an email is, well, counter- > intuitive, hard to follow, and goes against the general grain of > RFC 1855. Please, it has been requested from many users of this > list, do not top post replies, but don't stop sending them ;) > > Thanks, folks. > It is amazing how people just do not care. I was reading a few postings on Yahoo's Finance pages (looking at people talking about the company I work for) and there is this one character who has been told many many many times, be he still insists on top posting and POSTING IN ALL CAPS... Someone should create a script that will bounce the message if all the words are in CAPS and if the message is top posted, with a reply on proper posting etiquette.. ;) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Top posting
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joshua Lokken > Sent: March 19, 2004 10:22 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Top posting > > Wow, almost every single reply to the list today was top posted. > People, please know (and you must, you have to read them, too) > that posting replies to the top of an email is, well, counter- > intuitive, hard to follow, and goes against the general grain of > RFC 1855. Please, it has been requested from many users of this > list, do not top post replies, but don't stop sending them ;) > > Thanks, folks. My apologies. I saw the requests not to "top post" but didn't understand what that meant. I think my "Outlook 2000" comment explains why. :) -Dan ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: using wget for FETCH_CMD
Dan Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In the last episode (Mar 19), Brady Montz said: >> The problem is, that I while I fetch does seem to be able to download >> HTTP urls, I can't get it to download FTP urls through the proxy. >> >> I've tried various combinations of FTP_PROXY and FTP_PASSIVE_MODE. Is >> there anything else I can set? > > Setting FTP_PROXY to http://proxyserver:port/ works for me and a squid > proxy. If it's using a proxy, I don't think FTP_PASSIVE_MODE is > checked. Sadly, it doesn't work for me. And, as much as I hate this proxy server, it is what I have to go through. So, is there any way to get back to using wget? I have my doubts that fetch is going to be able to do the job. -- Brady Montz [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: using wget for FETCH_CMD
In the last episode (Mar 19), Brady Montz said: > The problem is, that I while I fetch does seem to be able to download > HTTP urls, I can't get it to download FTP urls through the proxy. > > I've tried various combinations of FTP_PROXY and FTP_PASSIVE_MODE. Is > there anything else I can set? Setting FTP_PROXY to http://proxyserver:port/ works for me and a squid proxy. If it's using a proxy, I don't think FTP_PASSIVE_MODE is checked. -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: How to get an overview of the installed ports
pkg_tree is also available in the ports collection at /usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_tree -Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Arek Czereszewski Sent: March 19, 2004 02:47 To: Ronald Hoellwarth Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How to get an overview of the installed ports Ronald Hoellwarth wrote: >Hello, > >I've installed some apps and deinstalled them again because I didn't >like them. While installing them other software was installed too but >I think it wasn't removed when I removed the unwanted programms. > >Is there a possibility to get an overview which ports are installed and >how they are linked? something like this: > >appA >needs appB appC >needed by appD appE appF > >appB >needs -none- >needed by appA > >... > >Then I could go through the list and see which programms I have to >remove in order to get a cleaner system. > >greetings from crailsheim, germany >ronald höllwarth > > > Try this app pkg_tree from page http://www.mavetju.org/unix/general.php Maybe help. -- Arkadiusz Czereszewski | gg: 1349941 arek(at)wup-katowice.pl | jid: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "*NIX is like wigwam - no windows, no gates and apache inside." ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Mail readers
It's not just terminal mail readers that had the problem ... I'm using MS Outlook 2000 and your problem messages also appeared screwy to me. I don't have any suggestions to contribute, just this observation. -Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bart Silverstrim Sent: March 19, 2004 04:54 To: FreeBSD-questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Mail readers On Mar 19, 2004, at 2:49 AM, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Bart Silverstrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> No. Nothing. Format=flowed applies solely to plain-text messages. HTML >> messages already have something functionally equivalent to f=f: the >> attribute, which... um... quotes blocks of text. When f=f >> mailers that also can handle HTML encounter text, it’s >> usually marked up with the same excerpt bars we’re familiar with from >> f=f. Format=flowed isn’t actually at work there, but since >> text flows nicely when you resize a window, the effect is >> the same. > I've never heard of this f=f stuff and don't have time just now to > investigate, but I'll keep typing anyway. I think the problem is > the same but worse. f=f is probably spec'd in a new draft RFC and > many mail readers don't support it, so your correspondents on a list > list this can't handle it well. > According to the FAQ, it (f=f) was developed (IIRC) by Qualcomm to not solve any problem in particular. However, this form of formatting would allow text to be easily formatted into columns readable by any kind of simple display...i.e., PDAs and cellphones with text messaging and email, etc. and at the same time it would easily scale to larger (PC) displays with pretty formatting and proper wrapping. Older readers would just ignore the formatting characters and mangle it accordingly. Oddly enough (if my current theory holds) where the invisible f=f formatting is inserted in an Apple app is dependent on the width of the composition window...which on my iBook really sucks because this window looks so NARROW compared to what I'm used to, hoping that other people's mail readers work a little better with reading my posts to the list. I haven't heard other people complaining as much about my mail wrapping at the 120 mark, so I'm hoping that maybe this will make it easier for others... It shouldn't be that hard for terminal mailers to adopt f=f, if I'm understanding it properly...just be a matter of time. -Bart ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Top posting
At 2004-03-19T17:53:31Z, "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Now, it's Almost certain that i'm VEry "out of it" whEN it comes to > Netiquette, but "Almost eVEry singlE reply" might be too stroNg a > statement; however, i thiNk thAt it is most obVious that you ExcEl iN > matters of tact! Do you AgRee that it's Not limited to techNical nEWsgroups, having Been In othEr forumS as well? -- Kirk Strauser "94 outdated ports on the box, 94 outdated ports. Portupgrade one, an hour 'til done, 82 outdated ports on the box." pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Playing DVDs with xine
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 06:39:00PM -0600, Michael Madden wrote: > Has anyone gotten xine to play DVDs? I have installed > it from /usr/ports/multimedia/xine and setup /dev/dvd, > but I keep getting this error: > > This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.9.23. > (c) 2000-2003 The xine Team. > libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 1-rc3a from http://xine.sf.net > libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for DVD access > libdvdread: Could not open /dev/dvd with libdvdcss. > libdvdread: Can't open /dev/dvd for reading > libdvdnav: vm: faild to open/read the DVD > > ls -l /dev/dvd /dev/cd0 > > crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator4, 20 Mar 18 07:47 /dev/cd0 > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel3 Mar 18 17:51 /dev/dvd -> /dev/cd0 Despite the error message, you probably need to make sure your userid can write to the dvd device. A good tool to use for solving this kind of problem is truss or ktrace. That will show you what the program is *really* doing! regards, Andrew ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Top posting
* Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-19 09:55]: > Joshua Lokken wrote: > > >http://www.google.com/search?q=rfc+top+posting&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 > > > > > > > >Wow, almost every single reply to the list today was top posted. > >People, please know (and you must, you have to read them, too) > >that posting replies to the top of an email is, well, counter- > >intuitive, hard to follow, and goes against the general grain of > >RFC 1855. Please, it has been requested from many users of this > >list, do not top post replies, but don't stop sending them ;) > > > >Thanks, folks. > > > > > > Now, it's Almost certain that i'm VEry > "out of it" whEN it comes to Netiquette, > but "Almost eVEry singlE reply" might be > too stroNg a statement; however, i thiNk > thAt it is most obVious that you ExcEl iN > matters of tact! > > KDK > Your wit is absolutely refreshing ;) -- Joshua Yes, it is written. Good shall always destroy evil. -- Sirah the Yang, "The Omega Glory", stardate unknown ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
using wget for FETCH_CMD
Hello, I've been using wget as my FETCH_CMD in /etc/make.conf for some time now, as it's the only thing I've been able to use to reliably get through the microsoft proxy server. Now, when I "make fetch", I get this error: wget: illegal option -- and according to the thread "/etc/make.c & wget..." on this list, a couple weeks back it appears that a recent change to /usr/ports/Mk/* broke this, and now FETCH_CMD needs to use fetch. The problem is, that I while I fetch does seem to be able to download HTTP urls, I can't get it to download FTP urls through the proxy. I've tried various combinations of FTP_PROXY and FTP_PASSIVE_MODE. Is there anything else I can set? Finally, is there any way I can get it to use wget again? -- Brady Montz [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Top posting
Joshua Lokken wrote: http://www.google.com/search?q=rfc+top+posting&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 Wow, almost every single reply to the list today was top posted. People, please know (and you must, you have to read them, too) that posting replies to the top of an email is, well, counter- intuitive, hard to follow, and goes against the general grain of RFC 1855. Please, it has been requested from many users of this list, do not top post replies, but don't stop sending them ;) Thanks, folks. Now, it's Almost certain that i'm VEry "out of it" whEN it comes to Netiquette, but "Almost eVEry singlE reply" might be too stroNg a statement; however, i thiNk thAt it is most obVious that you ExcEl iN matters of tact! KDK ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Top posting
On 03/19/04 09:21 AM, Joshua Lokken sat at the `puter and typed: > > > http://www.google.com/search?q=rfc+top+posting&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 > > > > Wow, almost every single reply to the list today was top posted. > People, please know (and you must, you have to read them, too) > that posting replies to the top of an email is, well, counter- > intuitive, hard to follow, and goes against the general grain of > RFC 1855. Please, it has been requested from many users of this > list, do not top post replies, but don't stop sending them ;) Yes, it has been requested from many users, and quite a few have flat out refused to follow this logical norm. Others simply follow the precedent set in any given thread, and some few will go so far as to delete the trailing messages and try to herd an already errant thread in the right direction. For my part, my reply behavior depends on the audience. One would think that a company with so many geeks (from developers to SW architects) would tend to do this right, but not so. Bottom line, don't hold your breath. Unfortunately, many mail clients don't show the replied email during reply composition but place it below the response, and most default to replying at the top anyway. Most users just don't bother to correct it when the option is there. I feel your pain dude. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ԿԬ Power corrupts. And atomic power corrupts atomically. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Rxvt replacement?
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Peter Schuller wrote: > > Is there any other xterm replacement which is small like rxvt? Or at least > > smaller than xterm. > > fork/branch of rxvt (haven't tried it yet). There's also aterm (also forked > off rxvt apparantly). Went with aterm. It's size is just a few KBs more than Rxvt. Working nicely so far. Thanks for reference. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Top posting
http://www.google.com/search?q=rfc+top+posting&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Wow, almost every single reply to the list today was top posted.
People, please know (and you must, you have to read them, too)
that posting replies to the top of an email is, well, counter-
intuitive, hard to follow, and goes against the general grain of
RFC 1855. Please, it has been requested from many users of this
list, do not top post replies, but don't stop sending them ;)
Thanks, folks.
--
Joshua
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-- the living and the dying.
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Re: problem with MySon Ethernet Nics
On Thursday 18 March 2004 18:09, Olaf Hoyer wrote: > Ok, do you have any Information about the chipset used on these? > > What is needed, is the dmesg output, at least those lines where the nic > is probed. > > should read something like: > > pci2: foo bar dmesg print out something like: pci2: My Nics is: SURECOM EP-320X-S 100/10M Ethernet PCI Adapter i have tried to rebuilded the kernel and compiled its driver (basing on the instruction) into kernel several times but I have not succeeded It is said that freebsd 5.2 supported MySon Ethernet Nics and ... i am surprized . Maybe I have missed somthing? Please help me to solve this problem www.airland.kiev.ua - Airland Network eMail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
SUDO and adduser... not allowing group of wheel
Hi all, I have an admin question regarding sudo. I want a user to be able to use sudo with adduser, but not be able to add users to the group wheel. How would I go a bout doing this? Cmnd_Alias NOWHEEL = !/usr/sbin/adduser -group wheel I tried the above and that doesn't seem to do it.. TIA Eric ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
lsmod
Greetings: I am trying to run cisco vpn software on Freebsd. It is a linux binary so, I turned on emulation. I am running into the following problem, is there a way to install lsmod? thanks, brian /home/henninb/vpn/vpnclient> ./vpnclient_init start Starting @VPNBINDIR@/vpnclient: ./vpnclient_init: /sbin/lsmod: not found module directory /lib/modules/4.9-STABLE/CiscoVPN not found. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: php installation problems; now mysql connection problems
I tried to installed PHP with MySQL but I could not successfully install it. I got an error which says "MySQL is already installed in your system, please uninstall mysql first." Is there a way to install php without actually uninstalling mysql? Matt Emmerton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When you chose "install php without mysql", what you really did is install PHP without mysql _support_. This is why you can't connect. Reinstall PHP *with* mysql support and you will be fine. Matt - Original Message - From: "samy lancher" To: "Jorn Argelo" Cc: Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 11:01 AM Subject: Re: php installation problems; now mysql connection problems > This morning I decided to install php4.4.2.2 back. In usr/ports/www/mod_php4 I gave "make clean". It cleared work directory. Than I gave "make install" command. I chose the option of installing php without mysql since i already have mysql in my system. Installation went on fine but now php is not able to connect to mysql. Any clues? > > Thanks, > Naveen. > Jorn Argelo wrote: > > Why don't you use portupgrade instead? You can install it via > /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade if you don't have it. Though I am not > certain if it works or even exists for FreeBSD 4.5 > > Anyway, if you do have it, try this: > > pkg_info | grep php > portupgrade -Rr > > Cheers, > > Jorn > > On 3/19/2004, "samy lancher" wrote: > > > > >Hello All, > > > >I have FreeBSD 4.5, apache 1.3.26_3 and mod_php4-4.2.2 . i wanted to upgrade php to php4-4.3.3.1 so i downloaded php4-4.3.3,1.tgz to usr/ports/distfiles and gave the command > > > >port_update -r mod_php4-4.2.2 php4-4.3.3,1.tgz > > > >I noticed that php old version got uninstalled and the new one did not get installed. Then in usr/ports/distfiles when i gave the command "pkg_add php4-4.3.3,1.tgz" i got an error > > > >read_plist: bad command '@conflicts php4-4*' > > > >I guess it is something to do with package version and their dependencies but I am not sure what exactly the problem is. > > > >I would also like to know if there is a way i can find out all the dependencies for a particular package before actually installing it. > > > >I would appreciate if some one could help me. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Naveen. > > > > > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam > >___ > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Rxvt replacement?
> Is there any other xterm replacement which is small like rxvt? Or at least > smaller than xterm. Grepping around the ports tree i found 'wterm' which is supposedly a fork/branch of rxvt (haven't tried it yet). There's also aterm (also forked off rxvt apparantly). -- / Peter Schuller, InfiDyne Technologies HB PGP userID: 0xE9758B7D or 'Peter Schuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>' Key retrieval: Send an E-Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.scode.org ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
dump/restore issue
My tape unit has been giving me problems on one server. So I did a dump over ssh to another box with a working tape like this: dump -0u -a -b 64 -f - /dev/da1s1e | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] dd of=/dev/nrsa0 Then to check the dump on srv2 I did restore -i -f /dev/nrsa0 which came back and said the tape block size was different than the dump block size or something like that. >From my reading of the dump man page the -b parm controlled the block size of the chunks that dump wrote, but was NOT connected to the actual block size of the tape. Since this tape is a variable block device, I went ahead and set -b to the max... But now what do I do about restore? Is there a better way to control tape block size when piping through ssh? ie, dd of=/dev/nrsa0 bs=512?? But then what meaning does the -b parm have in dump? -- David Bear phone: 480-965-8257 fax:480-965-9189 College of Public Programs/ASU Wilson Hall 232 Tempe, AZ 85287-0803 "Beware the IP portfolio, everyone will be suspect of trespassing" ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
