Re: Suggestion
2012-03-11 18:42, Polytropon skrev: On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:23:54 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: On Sunday 11 March 2012 10:53:26 Chad Perrin wrote: On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:31:33PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: FAT rules! Uh . . . what? It is on every phone, every camera, every toaster ... Sorry, you must be wrong. I tried to FORMAT.EXE my toaster Perhaps you didn't plug it in right. Sata, FW or usb. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?
On 03/12/12 07:19, Polytropon wrote:
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:28:19 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
here us a FBSD qauestion how can i capture any tv stream---or
radio stream for later replay?
I've been using a BrookTree ("Haupauge WinTV") PCI card for
capturing from TV which worked very good using the standard
programs mplayer and mencoder.
For capturing TV programs, there may be some service like
the Online TV Recoder which I occassionally use. Maybe this
works also for radio programs?
Additionally, there may be an option to download some kind
of media streams. There are tools for that available.
There is cx88 in the ports which will cover a lot of pci devices, and
webcamd covers just about all the rest. Then use mplayer or another tool
to record the stream.
And if you're real tricky you can set it to record at a specific time
and shut off at another specified time... :) I wrote a script for this;
a bit hackish, but it gets the job done. I have to clean it up someday
when I have the spare time.
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Re: Suggestion
On 03/11/12 21:03, ajtiM wrote: On Saturday 10 March 2012 17:36:53 Da Rock wrote: No system is actually truly capable of this, with the exception of the newest kid on the block Plan9. Winblows, in its current form, is the bastard love child of DOS and some black sheep cousin of Unix (twice-removed), so its not happening there either; just some sleight of hand tricks to partially achieve the result with a decrease of security to boot. IMO it is the Microsoft and CO. tactics how to eliminate concurency - Unix, Mac... They never tried to be better... Hah! They didn't need to. The guys who designed Unix finally wound up their work once ported, and then said "we can do a lot better now" and Plan9 was born. The change was too dramatic for commerce to change for supposedly little reward, and so Plan9 was left on the backburner while a lot of its features were integrated into other *nix platforms (rc, file based devices, etc). So in a way they did try to be better, but not exactly with the original designers blessing. And Plan9 is still an immature child... shame. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:28:19 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> here us a FBSD qauestion how can i capture any tv stream---or
> radio stream for later replay?
I've been using a BrookTree ("Haupauge WinTV") PCI card for
capturing from TV which worked very good using the standard
programs mplayer and mencoder.
For capturing TV programs, there may be some service like
the Online TV Recoder which I occassionally use. Maybe this
works also for radio programs?
Additionally, there may be an option to download some kind
of media streams. There are tools for that available.
> or is that illegal, too?
Yes, it is. It's also illegal to listen to MP3 in the US. :-)
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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?
Gary Kline wrote: guys, i made the mistake that conrad did when replying. i could make e excuse liked only getting five hours sleep, etc, bujt i wont. here us a FBSD qauestion how can i capture any tv stream---or radio stream for later replay? or is that illegal, too? gray Aloha, Most Public Radio stations have the programs in podcast form from their websites. I have had TV stations send me dvd's of broadcasts that my Wife has been on here in Hawaii. I think asking the media will get you results. Many of us on the FreeBSD questions list seem to have writing backgrounds and are interested in Joseph Campbell and his developments in writing and storytelling audio and video process. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: n...@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?
On 3/11/2012 3:28 PM, Gary Kline wrote: guys, i made the mistake that conrad did when replying. i could make e excuse liked only getting five hours sleep, etc, bujt i wont. here us a FBSD qauestion how can i capture any tv stream---or radio stream for later replay? or is that illegal, too? gray For capturing, I believe linux is your best bet. I had tried using the bktr driver, but I couldn't get it to work properly with the card I had. It could work somewhat from what I remember. The card was my brother's and he used it under linux, but he upgraded to a better one. Legality should be the same as a VCR/DVR, personal use only and don't redistribute. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?
guys, i made the mistake that conrad did when replying. i could make e excuse liked only getting five hours sleep, etc, bujt i wont. here us a FBSD qauestion how can i capture any tv stream---or radio stream for later replay? or is that illegal, too? gray -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Voice By Computer (for Universal Access): http:/www.thought.org/vbc The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org Twenty-five years of service to the Unix community. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today?
Matthew Seaman wrote: On 10/03/2012 23:41, Da Rock wrote: On 03/11/12 07:01, Mark Felder wrote: On 10.03.2012 14:43, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: Earlier today, for a period of about 30-45 minutes or so, any attempt to connect to www.freebsd.org was yielding failed hostname lookups. Did anyone else notice this? Any word on what was causing it? I have to admit, it was rather startling at first. Do you have any further details? What are you using for DNS servers, or are you doing lookups yourself? Actually, around the same time others were reporting another site (not fbsd, which I could access easily) was broken. So maybe a dark cloud passed over? ;) No -- you were not imagining things. The DNS for freebsd.org was temporarily broken. It was that most impossible to remove of causes: human error. Cheers, Matthew Aloha, Ah, To Bad Matthew, I was going to ask if it was the pesky Solar flares. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: n...@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today?
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:36:28 -0700 Robert articulated: > Let's just blame it on Bush! Everybody else does. Unless you are a right wing fascist; i.e. Limbaugh or Hannity, then you blame Obama or Clinton. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ No matter what problem you have with your computer - Its Always Microsoft's fault Corollary: If its not their fault - Blame them anyway :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today?
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:36:28 -0700 Robert wrote: > > Let's just blame it on Bush! Everybody else does. Are you sure it wasn't the "evildoers"? You know, the "terrists"? Maybe laying the groundwork for a "nucular" strike? -- Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Joseph Campbell on PBS today
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:16:54AM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:16:54 -0500 > From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" > Subject: Joseph Campbell on PBS today > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jennifer Blalock > Cc: > X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) > > Didn't you mention Joseph Campbell not too long ago, in response to my > "Hash Wednesday" mailing, referring to the importance/necessity of > rituals? > > Well, today at noon on Channel 12, they'll be airing a program titled > "Joseph Campbell and the Power of Myth with Bill Moyers". Three (3) > hours long it is! From the description on TV Guide, it sounds like > it should be quite interesting. > [ .] Thanks for this. i have all of prof campbell's first [13 hour] series in DVD in my bookcase; i've got the stuff with moyers on audio. i =did= pay for the original series. be nice if there were a way of capturing the moyers interview ...altho i've seen it at least twice; the tapes are worn out! gary ps: for general interest: check out KBTC-TV, at 14:00 PDT. [UCT-7] > > Conrad > > -- > Conrad J. Sabatier > conr...@cox.net > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Voice By Computer (for Universal Access): http:/www.thought.org/vbc The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org Twenty-five years of service to the Unix community. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today?
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 09:39:32 -0500 "Conrad J. Sabatier" wrote: > On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 12:16:25 +0100 > "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > > > > No -- you were not imagining things. The DNS for freebsd.org was > > > temporarily broken. It was that most impossible to remove of > > > causes: human error. > > > > Thats good, as it means not sun spots aka EMP aka gammma :-) > > > > Cheers, > > Julian > > Or the first ominous foreshadowing of the apocalyptic event(s) to > unfold later this year, come December. :-) > > I mean, if FreeBSD's DNS can go down, The End must certainly be near. > The falcon cannot hear the falconer. Things fall apart. The center > cannot hold. Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, and so on and so > forth. > Let's just blame it on Bush! Everybody else does. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Mounting a samba share on boot?
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:20:15 +0400, Льоша Лоїк wrote:
{ nothing }
Even though you wrote nothing, I assume that the subject
"Mounting a samba share on boot?" contains your question.
Answer:
You can put the required line in /etc/fstab, and provide
access details (workgroup, user, password and such stuff)
in /etc/nsmb.conf.
See the manpages for fstab, nsmb.conf and mount_smbfs for
details.
If you encounter problems with networking _not_ being up
when the mount is performed, see the "late" option described
in "man mount". This option is often used for network-mounted
file systems.
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Re: Suggestion
Alejandro Imass writes: > >> > > FAT rules! > >> > > >> > Uh . . . what? > >> > >> It is on every phone, every camera, every toaster ... > > The only reason it's so popular is not precisely for good design. I can think of two: Its properties are well understood. There are a multitude of drivers, at least some well-coded. Many are even open source. :-) And for one of its tasks - as a format for media to be read by multiple devices, presumably under the control of/with the permission of a single person - what exactly is the better alternative? Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Joseph Campbell on PBS today
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:03:02 +0100
"Julian H. Stacey" wrote:
> Steve Bertrand wrote:
> > On 2012-03-11 11:38, Jerry wrote:
> > > On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:16:54 -0500
> > > Conrad J. Sabatier articulated:
> > >
> > > {snip}
> > >
> > > WTF
> >
> > With this, the ReactOS crap, and the Microsoft sucks debacle, I
> > woke up this morning thinking it may be April 1st :)
>
> Yes. To restore signal to noise ratio, would be good if some people
> on questions@ also subscribed & posted certain threads to
> freebsd-advocacy@
> freebsd-chat@
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/
>
> Cheers,
> Julian
Sorry 'bout that, folks. I was reading my freebsd-questions folder at
the time, for which I have an auto "To:" address setup, and wanted to
mail a friend of mine to tell her about this TV program, but forgot I
was in the folder and needed to remove the auto address.
Gotta watch out more carefully for that sort of thing. This is not the
first time I've done this. Very embarrassing, to say the least.
I need to sleep, I think. :-)
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hack.So: could not read symbols
I'm using 9.0-RELEASE. I downloaded the snapshot "9.0-CURRENT-201012" and tried to build it's kernel but I get this error: hack.So: could not read symbols: File in wrong format file reports this: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked, not stripped I compared this file with the same file generated during the compilation of the 9.0-RELEASE GENERIC kernel and they are identical. What's the problem here? Thanks in advance ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Suggestion
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:23:54 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > On Sunday 11 March 2012 10:53:26 Chad Perrin wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:31:33PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > FAT rules! > > > > Uh . . . what? > > It is on every phone, every camera, every toaster ... Sorry, you must be wrong. I tried to FORMAT.EXE my toaster but it didn't work. It turned into a bread slicer instead. Maybe the toaster is too old and requires paper tape... :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Can't install WindowMaker
Sabine Baer t-online.de> writes: > ... After your ports updates, do not forget to test integrity of ports: # portmaster --check-depends # portmaster --check-port-dbdir and retry the compilation again. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Can't install WindowMaker
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:29:18AM +, jb wrote: [...] > Why not try: > # pkg_add -r windowmaker I never used this method, I prefer compiling (don't know why, it's only feeling). > You should check any refs to windowmaker in: > /usr/ports/UPDATING > before compiling its port. I have done that but couldn't find anything relative. Thanks for answering anyway. Sabine -- In a world without fences and walls, who needs windows and gates? (N.N.) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Can't install WindowMaker
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 05:41:41PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: [...] > FD_ISSET is a macro in /usr/include/sys/select.h, at least on 9.0. Check if > that file exists and is readable. > > Check if the file config.h[1] in the windowmaker source tree (generated by > configure) contains the line '#define HAVE_SELECT 1'. > [1: /usr/ports/x11-wm/windowmaker/work/WindowMaker-0.95.2/config.h] > If this is not defined, and the file exists, it is a bug in the configure > script. > > As a workaround, try removing the '#ifdef' and '#endif' lines around the '# > include ' line in the file handlers.c[2], then re-start the > compilation process (by running 'make' from the port's directory). Don't > re-start the portmaster command, as that will undo your changes. If the build > goes OK, issue the command 'make install clean' from the port's directory. > [2: /usr/ports/x11-wm/windowmaker/work/WindowMaker-0.95.2/WINGs/handlers.c] Thanks a lot, I'll have a try. Sabine -- Good public health practice requires day-to-day vigilance, constant and elevated funding, not a disease-of-the-week approach.(N.N.) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Joseph Campbell on PBS today
Steve Bertrand wrote:
> On 2012-03-11 11:38, Jerry wrote:
> > On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:16:54 -0500
> > Conrad J. Sabatier articulated:
> >
> > {snip}
> >
> > WTF
>
> With this, the ReactOS crap, and the Microsoft sucks debacle, I woke up
> this morning thinking it may be April 1st :)
Yes. To restore signal to noise ratio, would be good if some people
on questions@ also subscribed & posted certain threads to
freebsd-advocacy@
freebsd-chat@
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/
Cheers,
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Re: Can't install WindowMaker
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 09:17:50AM +0100, Sabine Baer wrote: > Sorry if I'm totally wrong here but I don't know where to ask. Posting this to questions is fine, IMO. freebsd-ports would also be appropriate. > I'm using WindowMaker as my window manager for some years. I do not > remember why, but some days ago, I deinstalled ist. Now, I can't > install it. > > $uname -rp > |7.4-STABLE amd64 It compiles fine here (9.0-RELEASE amd64). > #portmaster /x11-wm/windomaker > |[...] > |handlers.c:542: warning: implicit declaration of function 'FD_ISSET' > |*** Error code 1 FD_ISSET is a macro in /usr/include/sys/select.h, at least on 9.0. Check if that file exists and is readable. Check if the file config.h[1] in the windowmaker source tree (generated by configure) contains the line '#define HAVE_SELECT 1'. [1: /usr/ports/x11-wm/windowmaker/work/WindowMaker-0.95.2/config.h] If this is not defined, and the file exists, it is a bug in the configure script. As a workaround, try removing the '#ifdef' and '#endif' lines around the '# include ' line in the file handlers.c[2], then re-start the compilation process (by running 'make' from the port's directory). Don't re-start the portmaster command, as that will undo your changes. If the build goes OK, issue the command 'make install clean' from the port's directory. [2: /usr/ports/x11-wm/windowmaker/work/WindowMaker-0.95.2/WINGs/handlers.c] Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpdMaywDDOug.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Joseph Campbell on PBS today
On 2012-03-11 11:38, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:16:54 -0500
Conrad J. Sabatier articulated:
{snip}
WTF
With this, the ReactOS crap, and the Microsoft sucks debacle, I woke up
this morning thinking it may be April 1st :)
Steve
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Re: Joseph Campbell on PBS today
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:16:54 -0500
Conrad J. Sabatier articulated:
{snip}
WTF
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Re: Suggestion
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:13:09 -0400 Alejandro Imass articulated: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Alejandro Imass > wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Chris > > wrote: > >> ... Ah yes, trying to feed the world where hunger is rampant is an > >> evil thing when done by corporate "insert name here". > >> > > > > Ah yes, the ignorance > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott > > And you say there is no relationship: > > http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/microsoft-versus-open-source-in-the-third-world-20021115/ Seriously, did anyone bother to look at the dates of those articles? -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ If there is a wrong way to do something, then someone will do it. Edward A. Murphy, Jr. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Suggestion
... One word that is rampant... Alligations Sent from my HTC. - Reply message - From: "Alejandro Imass" Date: Sun, Mar 11, 2012 10:04 am Subject: Suggestion To: "Chris" Cc: "FreeBSD" On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Chris wrote: > ... Ah yes, trying to feed the world where hunger is rampant is an evil > thing when done by corporate "insert name here". > Ah yes, the ignorance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Joseph Campbell on PBS today
Didn't you mention Joseph Campbell not too long ago, in response to my "Hash Wednesday" mailing, referring to the importance/necessity of rituals? Well, today at noon on Channel 12, they'll be airing a program titled "Joseph Campbell and the Power of Myth with Bill Moyers". Three (3) hours long it is! From the description on TV Guide, it sounds like it should be quite interesting. Preceding it there's "Peter, Paul and Mary: 25th Anniversay Concert" (from 1986). They're doing "Puff, The Magic Dragon" as I write this. :-) Loved that song when I was an innocent young little boy. I always associated it with the "Cecil and Beany" cartoon show. :-) Have a pleasant and relaxing Sunday. Conrad -- Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Suggestion
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Chris wrote: >> ... Ah yes, trying to feed the world where hunger is rampant is an evil >> thing when done by corporate "insert name here". >> > > Ah yes, the ignorance > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott And you say there is no relationship: http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/microsoft-versus-open-source-in-the-third-world-20021115/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Suggestion
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Chris wrote: > ... Ah yes, trying to feed the world where hunger is rampant is an evil > thing when done by corporate "insert name here". > Ah yes, the ignorance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Suggestion
... Ah yes, trying to feed the world where hunger is rampant is an evil thing when done by corporate "insert name here". Yes, I believe I see the relationship Sent from my HTC. - Reply message - From: "Alejandro Imass" Date: Sun, Mar 11, 2012 9:46 am Subject: Suggestion To: "FreeBSD" On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Jerry wrote: > On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:23:54 +0700 > Erich Dollansky articulated: > >> > > FAT rules! >> > >> > Uh . . . what? >> >> It is on every phone, every camera, every toaster ... > > And for a very good reason; it is virtually universally usable by any > operating system. However, the "exFAT" system is becoming more > prevalent due to its more versatile design. > The only reason it's so popular is not precisely for good design. It's only because of Microsoft's dominance of the market. They achieved this dominance not by providing good software, but rather by user the drug dealer's / gangster model in which they are very lax about people copying their crappy software, and then pressuring them into paying out with the BSA. Meanwhile, people became dependent (addicted) to their file formats such as xls and doc, in a vicious cycle making Microsoft ever more powerful over people's will. They didn't kill off the competition by providing better products and services, they just bullied their way through by threatening distributors and hardware manufacturers, and later consumers. Today, Microsoft is still doing this by providing "free software" to third world schools and governments, much like Nestle does by providing "free powdered milks and baby formula" in Africa, or like Monsanto does when providing super seeds to struggling farmers. As I heard someone say recently "if Al Capone were alive today he'd run a tech company". -- Alejandro Imass ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Suggestion
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Jerry wrote: > On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:23:54 +0700 > Erich Dollansky articulated: > >> > > FAT rules! >> > >> > Uh . . . what? >> >> It is on every phone, every camera, every toaster ... > > And for a very good reason; it is virtually universally usable by any > operating system. However, the "exFAT" system is becoming more > prevalent due to its more versatile design. > The only reason it's so popular is not precisely for good design. It's only because of Microsoft's dominance of the market. They achieved this dominance not by providing good software, but rather by user the drug dealer's / gangster model in which they are very lax about people copying their crappy software, and then pressuring them into paying out with the BSA. Meanwhile, people became dependent (addicted) to their file formats such as xls and doc, in a vicious cycle making Microsoft ever more powerful over people's will. They didn't kill off the competition by providing better products and services, they just bullied their way through by threatening distributors and hardware manufacturers, and later consumers. Today, Microsoft is still doing this by providing "free software" to third world schools and governments, much like Nestle does by providing "free powdered milks and baby formula" in Africa, or like Monsanto does when providing super seeds to struggling farmers. As I heard someone say recently "if Al Capone were alive today he'd run a tech company". -- Alejandro Imass ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today?
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 12:16:25 +0100 "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > > No -- you were not imagining things. The DNS for freebsd.org was > > temporarily broken. It was that most impossible to remove of > > causes: human error. > > Thats good, as it means not sun spots aka EMP aka gammma :-) > > Cheers, > Julian Or the first ominous foreshadowing of the apocalyptic event(s) to unfold later this year, come December. :-) I mean, if FreeBSD's DNS can go down, The End must certainly be near. The falcon cannot hear the falconer. Things fall apart. The center cannot hold. Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, and so on and so forth. -- Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today?
Julian H. Stacey writes: > > No -- you were not imagining things. The DNS for freebsd.org was > > temporarily broken. It was that most impossible to remove of causes: > > human error. > > Thats good, as it means not sun spots aka EMP aka gammma :-) "Hulk _not_ eat sushi near puny human puny machine!" Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today?
> No -- you were not imagining things. The DNS for freebsd.org was > temporarily broken. It was that most impossible to remove of causes: > human error. Thats good, as it means not sun spots aka EMP aka gammma :-) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Suggestion
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:23:54 +0700 Erich Dollansky articulated: > > > FAT rules! > > > > Uh . . . what? > > It is on every phone, every camera, every toaster ... And for a very good reason; it is virtually universally usable by any operating system. However, the "exFAT" system is becoming more prevalent due to its more versatile design. To use a camera as an example, any manufacturer that would use a file system that was not compatible with MS Windows would be driving the company into bankruptcy. There are dozens of Windows based applications that can handle images stored on various types of cameras At best, there are only a few designed for the non-Windows world, and they work like crap, if you can get one to work at all. They are all feature poor, again assuming you can get one to actually work without having an engineering degree. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Suggestion
On Saturday 10 March 2012 17:36:53 Da Rock wrote: > No system is actually truly capable of this, with the exception of the > newest kid on the block Plan9. Winblows, in its current form, is the > bastard love child of DOS and some black sheep cousin of Unix > (twice-removed), so its not happening there either; just some sleight of > hand tricks to partially achieve the result with a decrease of security > to boot. > IMO it is the Microsoft and CO. tactics how to eliminate concurency - Unix, Mac... They never tried to be better... Mitja http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Can't install WindowMaker
Sabine Baer t-online.de> writes: > > Sorry if I'm totally wrong here but I don't know where to ask. > > I'm using WindowMaker as my window manager for some years. I do not > remember why, but some days ago, I deinstalled ist. Now, I can't > install it. > ... Why not try: # pkg_add -r windowmaker You should check any refs to windowmaker in: /usr/ports/UPDATING before compiling its port. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Can't install WindowMaker
Sorry if I'm totally wrong here but I don't know where to ask. I'm using WindowMaker as my window manager for some years. I do not remember why, but some days ago, I deinstalled ist. Now, I can't install it. $uname -rp |7.4-STABLE amd64 #portmaster -aD |all up to date (had a long run of updating gcc46 and others this |morning) #portmaster /x11-wm/windomaker |[...] |handlers.c:542: warning: implicit declaration of function 'FD_ISSET' |*** Error code 1 |mv -f .deps/findfile.Tpo .deps/findfile.Plo |1 error |*** Error code 1 |1 error |*** Error code 1 |1 error |*** Error code 2 |1 error |*** Error code 1 | |Stop in /usr/ports/x11-wm/windowmaker. | |===>>> make failed for x11-wm/windowmaker |===>>> Aborting update | |Terminated | |===>>> You can restart from the point of failure with this command |line: | portmaster x11-wm/windowmaker I haven't any clue what might go wrong. Searching google didn't bring any help. I can use fluxbox or twm, but I want my WindowMaker back :-( Sabine -- "Wissenschaftlich betrachtet wird das Häuschen kaputt sein." (Th. Waschke in dswc auf die Frage eines wissenschftlich Interessierten, was mit einem Holzhaus, in dem eine Atombombe gezuendet wird, passiere.) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: What happened to FreeBSD.org DNS earlier today?
On 10/03/2012 23:41, Da Rock wrote: > On 03/11/12 07:01, Mark Felder wrote: >> On 10.03.2012 14:43, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: >>> Earlier today, for a period of about 30-45 minutes or so, any attempt to >>> connect to www.freebsd.org was yielding failed hostname lookups. >>> Did anyone else notice this? Any word on what was causing it? I have >>> to admit, it was rather startling at first. >> Do you have any further details? What are you using for DNS servers, >> or are you doing lookups yourself? > Actually, around the same time others were reporting another site (not > fbsd, which I could access easily) was broken. So maybe a dark cloud > passed over? ;) No -- you were not imagining things. The DNS for freebsd.org was temporarily broken. It was that most impossible to remove of causes: human error. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
