Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-24 Thread Polytropon 
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 07:45:07 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 05:31:33AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 20:02:27 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 01:33:58PM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:50:26 +0100
> > > > > From: Anton Shterenlikht 
> > > > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > > > > Subject: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U
> > > > >
> > > > > My daughter is doing a touch typing course
> > > > > that presumes MS Word. So far she was fine
> > > > > with pico, but now they want the kids to
> > > > > practice CTRL/B (bold), CTRL/I (italic),
> > > > > CTRL/U (underline). She really needs to use
> > > > > these particular combinations because that
> > > > > is how the on-line assessment tool is set out.
> > > > >
> > > > > I use nothing but vi, so have no clue which,
> > > > > if any, editor from ports/editors will have
> > > > > these particular combinations implemented.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please recommend one, preferably as simple
> > > > > and as small as possible.
> > > > 
> > > > Sorry *NO* 'text editor' has those capabilities, let alone has 
> > > > them on those key sequences.
> > > > 
> > > > Those are 'word processor' functions.  word processor' software
> > > > is required.
> > > 
> > > I know, I know..
> > 
> > Seems that your "better paid friends" at the board of
> > education do _not_ know. :-)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > I don't know why in a touchtyping course
> > > you need to teach kids this, but..
> > 
> > WHAT? Let me get some food, I need to barf. What does this
> > have to do with touchtyping? What an educational ballast
> > are they teaching?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Anyway, abiword seems to do what I need.
> > > 
> > > Let me know if there's anything lighter.
> > 
> > I'm not aware of anything lighter in the realm of word
> > processors. All "alternatives" are full office suites,
> > so the "single purpose" AbiWord (with less dependencies)
> > should be the closest match and the most efficient one.
> > 
> > It is even "file-compatible" with proprietary MICROS~1
> > products and offers a lot of the look & feel (which
> > contradicts "blind" touchtyping) of "Word", at least
> > some _older_ versions of it.
> > 
> > Teaching children an outdated version of some program
> > (which it _will_ be when they leave school) is not a good
> > idea. It creates confision and inefficient handling of
> > the wrong tools to do a job.
> > 
> > "I want this to be a heading, I'm at... chapter 3.5 now,
> > okay... this is 3.6 then. Then I select the text with the
> > mouse... wait... okay, now [B] as I need a fat typeface,
> > and maybe... make the text bigger... 15pt should be fine,
> > no, 17 pt is better. Some spaces here... space space space
> > space space, now it is centered. Good. Return Return Return,
> > and now I can start with the text."
> > 
> > Compare that _typical_ approach to simply applying the style
> > "Heading 2". And imagine the fun of changing font face, font
> > size or enumeration. :-)
> 
> calm down man..

I'll keep calm and carry on. :-)



> It's not too bad.
> 
> On the positive side, she only needed this 2/3 into
> the course, when she can touch type already. Other
> extra things they teach kids in the course are how
> to write an informal letter or a job application - skills
> that most UK school leavers haven't got.

Really? And I thought Germany was bad in this regards...
Encouraging those skills is a very positive aspects,
and touchtyping will be handy for everyone who will
work with computers in a professional career.



> sure, if I were designing the touch typing course,
> it would be different - I taught myself with
> games/gtypist, but..

I taught myself with a mechanical typewriter. :-)



> On the other side, I have to admit, that overall
> things with computer education in the UK are bad.
> A report published by the Royal Society (UK
> equivalent of an Academy of Sciences in other
> countries) in January 2012 is tellingly entitled:
> 
>   Computing in Schools: Shut down or restart?
> 
> and starts with:
> 
>   The current delivery of Computing education
>   in many UK schools is highly unsatisfactory. 
> 
> and then goes:
> 
>   many pupils are not inspired by what they
>   are taught and gain nothing beyond basic
>   digital literacy skills such as how to use
>   a word-processor or a database.
> 
> It's a pretty depressing read:
> 
> http://royalsociety.org/education/policy/computing-in-schools/report/
> 
> Anyway, those of us in a position to affect
> kids computer education, should do it, but
> it's an uphill battle.

Thanks for that article, it's really sad. One of the main
problems is (in my opinion) that GENERIC SKILLS aren't
recognozed with the big importane they have. With them,
a pupil can educate himself _regardless_ of the current
program or operating system. Understanding the basic
things "under the hood"

Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-24 Thread Anton Shterenlikht 
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 05:31:33AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 20:02:27 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 01:33:58PM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:50:26 +0100
> > > > From: Anton Shterenlikht 
> > > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > > > Subject: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U
> > > >
> > > > My daughter is doing a touch typing course
> > > > that presumes MS Word. So far she was fine
> > > > with pico, but now they want the kids to
> > > > practice CTRL/B (bold), CTRL/I (italic),
> > > > CTRL/U (underline). She really needs to use
> > > > these particular combinations because that
> > > > is how the on-line assessment tool is set out.
> > > >
> > > > I use nothing but vi, so have no clue which,
> > > > if any, editor from ports/editors will have
> > > > these particular combinations implemented.
> > > >
> > > > Please recommend one, preferably as simple
> > > > and as small as possible.
> > > 
> > > Sorry *NO* 'text editor' has those capabilities, let alone has 
> > > them on those key sequences.
> > > 
> > > Those are 'word processor' functions.  word processor' software
> > > is required.
> > 
> > I know, I know..
> 
> Seems that your "better paid friends" at the board of
> education do _not_ know. :-)
> 
> 
> 
> > I don't know why in a touchtyping course
> > you need to teach kids this, but..
> 
> WHAT? Let me get some food, I need to barf. What does this
> have to do with touchtyping? What an educational ballast
> are they teaching?
> 
> 
> 
> > Anyway, abiword seems to do what I need.
> > 
> > Let me know if there's anything lighter.
> 
> I'm not aware of anything lighter in the realm of word
> processors. All "alternatives" are full office suites,
> so the "single purpose" AbiWord (with less dependencies)
> should be the closest match and the most efficient one.
> 
> It is even "file-compatible" with proprietary MICROS~1
> products and offers a lot of the look & feel (which
> contradicts "blind" touchtyping) of "Word", at least
> some _older_ versions of it.
> 
> Teaching children an outdated version of some program
> (which it _will_ be when they leave school) is not a good
> idea. It creates confision and inefficient handling of
> the wrong tools to do a job.
> 
> "I want this to be a heading, I'm at... chapter 3.5 now,
> okay... this is 3.6 then. Then I select the text with the
> mouse... wait... okay, now [B] as I need a fat typeface,
> and maybe... make the text bigger... 15pt should be fine,
> no, 17 pt is better. Some spaces here... space space space
> space space, now it is centered. Good. Return Return Return,
> and now I can start with the text."
> 
> Compare that _typical_ approach to simply applying the style
> "Heading 2". And imagine the fun of changing font face, font
> size or enumeration. :-)

calm down man..

It's not too bad.

On the positive side, she only needed this 2/3 into
the course, when she can touch type already. Other
extra things they teach kids in the course are how
to write an informal letter or a job application - skills
that most UK school leavers haven't got.

sure, if I were designing the touch typing course,
it would be different - I taught myself with
games/gtypist, but..

On the other side, I have to admit, that overall
things with computer education in the UK are bad.
A report published by the Royal Society (UK
equivalent of an Academy of Sciences in other
countries) in January 2012 is tellingly entitled:

Computing in Schools: Shut down or restart?

and starts with:

The current delivery of Computing education
in many UK schools is highly unsatisfactory. 

and then goes:

many pupils are not inspired by what they
are taught and gain nothing beyond basic
digital literacy skills such as how to use
a word-processor or a database.

It's a pretty depressing read:

http://royalsociety.org/education/policy/computing-in-schools/report/

Anyway, those of us in a position to affect
kids computer education, should do it, but
it's an uphill battle.

-- 
Anton Shterenlikht
Room 2.6, Queen's Building
Mech Eng Dept
Bristol University
University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK
Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944
Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423
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Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-24 Thread Polytropon 
On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 20:02:27 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 01:33:58PM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote:
> > 
> > > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:50:26 +0100
> > > From: Anton Shterenlikht 
> > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > > Subject: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U
> > >
> > > My daughter is doing a touch typing course
> > > that presumes MS Word. So far she was fine
> > > with pico, but now they want the kids to
> > > practice CTRL/B (bold), CTRL/I (italic),
> > > CTRL/U (underline). She really needs to use
> > > these particular combinations because that
> > > is how the on-line assessment tool is set out.
> > >
> > > I use nothing but vi, so have no clue which,
> > > if any, editor from ports/editors will have
> > > these particular combinations implemented.
> > >
> > > Please recommend one, preferably as simple
> > > and as small as possible.
> > 
> > Sorry *NO* 'text editor' has those capabilities, let alone has 
> > them on those key sequences.
> > 
> > Those are 'word processor' functions.  word processor' software
> > is required.
> 
> I know, I know..

Seems that your "better paid friends" at the board of
education do _not_ know. :-)



> I don't know why in a touchtyping course
> you need to teach kids this, but..

WHAT? Let me get some food, I need to barf. What does this
have to do with touchtyping? What an educational ballast
are they teaching?



> Anyway, abiword seems to do what I need.
> 
> Let me know if there's anything lighter.

I'm not aware of anything lighter in the realm of word
processors. All "alternatives" are full office suites,
so the "single purpose" AbiWord (with less dependencies)
should be the closest match and the most efficient one.

It is even "file-compatible" with proprietary MICROS~1
products and offers a lot of the look & feel (which
contradicts "blind" touchtyping) of "Word", at least
some _older_ versions of it.

Teaching children an outdated version of some program
(which it _will_ be when they leave school) is not a good
idea. It creates confision and inefficient handling of
the wrong tools to do a job.

"I want this to be a heading, I'm at... chapter 3.5 now,
okay... this is 3.6 then. Then I select the text with the
mouse... wait... okay, now [B] as I need a fat typeface,
and maybe... make the text bigger... 15pt should be fine,
no, 17 pt is better. Some spaces here... space space space
space space, now it is centered. Good. Return Return Return,
and now I can start with the text."

Compare that _typical_ approach to simply applying the style
"Heading 2". And imagine the fun of changing font face, font
size or enumeration. :-)



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Re: Ports Libraries - Shared object "libz.so.5" not found

2012-04-24 Thread sw2wolf 
>ls -l /lib/libz*
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel9  4 22 09:00 /lib/libz.so.5@ -> libz.so.6

When i installed wine, it reported the same error which is fixed simply by a
symbolic link.

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Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-24 Thread Polytropon 
On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:50:26 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> My daughter is doing a touch typing course
> that presumes MS Word. So far she was fine
> with pico, but now they want the kids to
> practice CTRL/B (bold), CTRL/I (italic),
> CTRL/U (underline). She really needs to use
> these particular combinations because that
> is how the on-line assessment tool is set out.
> 
> I use nothing but vi, so have no clue which,
> if any, editor from ports/editors will have
> these particular combinations implemented.
> 
> Please recommend one, preferably as simple
> and as small as possible.

The subject says "editor", but bold, italics and
underline do belong to the realm of microformatting,
being part of old-fashioned WYSIWYG word processing. :-)

If you want a small solution, I'd suggest using
joe (Joe's Own Editor). It can be configured to use
those keyboard shortcuts, but I'm not sure if it
does support _displaying_ bold, italic or underlined
text. As I said, that's _not_ what editors do.

For _training purposes_, displaying the text with a
kind of markup would be possible (and configurabe in
the editor), e. g.

This is bold text.->   *bold*
This is italics text. ->   /italics/
This is underlined text.  ->   _underlined_

In worst case, get "Wordpad" from a "Windows" install
and use it with wine. That should be enough for
practicing, but it requires a GUI setup. So does
OpenOffice (or LibreOffice, KOffice or AbiWord), if
you've already installed one of them.

However, I'm questioning the _learning approach_ your
daughter is experiencing. I can't think of anything
_useful_ she would learn from that. It emphasizes
the "what it looks like" more than "what it is" of text
which has _proven_ to be the wrong approach. Using
text block templates and applying them to "kinds of
text" should be the preferred method. Yes, that is
even possible in WYSIWYG word processors (such as
OpenOffice). Teaching users (children, adults) some
arbitrary key combinations to make "text look like"
something will get them into trouble as soon as they
want to do real work. MICROFORMATTING IS BAD.

And key combinations may not be portable. I remember
that some older german versions of "Word" did use
CTRL/F, CTRL/K and CTRL/U for the same attributes,
and that changed during the "evolution" of the program.

Been there, seen it, seeing it every day;
can't even eat as much as I want to vomit. :-)




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Broken link on your page

2012-04-24 Thread Emma Haze 

Hi there,

I came across your website and wanted to notify you about a broken link on your 
page in case you weren't aware of it. The link on 
cybershade.us/freebsd/www/security which links to 
http://www.shmoo.com/securecode/ is no longer working.

I've included a link to a useful page on Secure Programming that you could 
replace the broken link with if you're interested in updating your website. 
Thanks for providing a great resource!

Link: http://www.onlineitdegree.net/resources/secure-programming/

Best,
Emma
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Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-24 Thread Al Plant 

Anton Shterenlikht wrote:

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 01:33:58PM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote:

Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:50:26 +0100
From: Anton Shterenlikht 
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

My daughter is doing a touch typing course
that presumes MS Word. So far she was fine
with pico, but now they want the kids to
practice CTRL/B (bold), CTRL/I (italic),
CTRL/U (underline). She really needs to use
these particular combinations because that
is how the on-line assessment tool is set out.

I use nothing but vi, so have no clue which,
if any, editor from ports/editors will have
these particular combinations implemented.

Please recommend one, preferably as simple
and as small as possible.
Sorry *NO* 'text editor' has those capabilities, let alone has 
them on those key sequences.


Those are 'word processor' functions.  word processor' software
is required.


I know, I know..

I don't know why in a touchtyping course
you need to teach kids this, but..

Anyway, abiword seems to do what I need.

Let me know if there's anything lighter.

Many thanks



Aloha

I use abiword and send files in "word" or "text" to my wifes Windows box 
for her to use as needed. abiword translates to the MS format if you 
daughter has to turn in a file for an assignment.



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Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-24 Thread Anton Shterenlikht 
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 01:33:58PM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote:
> 
> > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:50:26 +0100
> > From: Anton Shterenlikht 
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Subject: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U
> >
> > My daughter is doing a touch typing course
> > that presumes MS Word. So far she was fine
> > with pico, but now they want the kids to
> > practice CTRL/B (bold), CTRL/I (italic),
> > CTRL/U (underline). She really needs to use
> > these particular combinations because that
> > is how the on-line assessment tool is set out.
> >
> > I use nothing but vi, so have no clue which,
> > if any, editor from ports/editors will have
> > these particular combinations implemented.
> >
> > Please recommend one, preferably as simple
> > and as small as possible.
> 
> Sorry *NO* 'text editor' has those capabilities, let alone has 
> them on those key sequences.
> 
> Those are 'word processor' functions.  word processor' software
> is required.

I know, I know..

I don't know why in a touchtyping course
you need to teach kids this, but..

Anyway, abiword seems to do what I need.

Let me know if there's anything lighter.

Many thanks


-- 
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Room 2.6, Queen's Building
Mech Eng Dept
Bristol University
University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK
Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944
Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423
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Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-24 Thread Waitman Gobble 
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:

> On 04/24/2012 12:50 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
>
>> My daughter is doing a touch typing course
>> that presumes MS Word. So far she was fine
>> with pico, but now they want the kids to
>> practice CTRL/B (bold), CTRL/I (italic),
>> CTRL/U (underline). She really needs to use
>> these particular combinations because that
>> is how the on-line assessment tool is set out.
>>
>> I use nothing but vi, so have no clue which,
>> if any, editor from ports/editors will have
>> these particular combinations implemented.
>>
>> Please recommend one, preferably as simple
>> and as small as possible.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
> I am not certain, but I think it is possible to create your own
> keyboard maps in both joe and vim...
>
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try AbiWord, /usr/*ports*/editors/*abiword*

should be 'close match' to ms word...

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Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-24 Thread Mike Jeays 
On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:50:26 +0100
Anton Shterenlikht  wrote:

> My daughter is doing a touch typing course
> that presumes MS Word. So far she was fine
> with pico, but now they want the kids to
> practice CTRL/B (bold), CTRL/I (italic),
> CTRL/U (underline). She really needs to use
> these particular combinations because that
> is how the on-line assessment tool is set out.
> 
> I use nothing but vi, so have no clue which,
> if any, editor from ports/editors will have
> these particular combinations implemented.
> 
> Please recommend one, preferably as simple
> and as small as possible.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> -- 
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> Room 2.6, Queen's Building
> Mech Eng Dept
> Bristol University
> University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK
> Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944
> Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423
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Abiword will do this. It is a good bit bigger than vi, but if your daughter is 
being schooled in MS WORD, it is a good substitute.

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Re: editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-24 Thread Tim Daneliuk 

On 04/24/2012 12:50 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:

My daughter is doing a touch typing course
that presumes MS Word. So far she was fine
with pico, but now they want the kids to
practice CTRL/B (bold), CTRL/I (italic),
CTRL/U (underline). She really needs to use
these particular combinations because that
is how the on-line assessment tool is set out.

I use nothing but vi, so have no clue which,
if any, editor from ports/editors will have
these particular combinations implemented.

Please recommend one, preferably as simple
and as small as possible.

Thanks



I am not certain, but I think it is possible to create your own
keyboard maps in both joe and vim...

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pxegrub + FreeBSD install

2012-04-24 Thread Rick Miller 
Hi All,

I am attempting to build FreeBSD 8.x-RELEASE over the network via PXE.
 I chain pxegrub to pxelinux and load the FreeBSD kernel and mfsroot
through pxegrub with the following:

menuentry "freebsd-x86_64" {
   kfreebsd /boot/kernel/kernel
   kfreebsd_loadenv /boot/device.hints
   kfreebsd_module /boot/mfsroot.gz type=mfs_root
   set kFreeBSD.vfs.root.mountfrom=ufs:/dev/md0c
}

The mfsroot.gz is from the installation DVD with a couple of scripts
and an install.cfg which result in a non-interactive install.  I set
variables necessary to allow sysinstall to retrieve the expected
files.  The variables (previously) are populated as follows:

server=`kenv -q boot.nfsroot.server`
mac=`kenv -q boot.netif.hwaddr`
ip=`kenv -q boot.netif.ip`
nm=`kenv -q boot.netif.netmask`
gw=`kenv -q boot.netif.gateway`
name=`kenv -q dhcp.host-name`
route=`kenv -q dhcp.routers`


The mfsroot.gz does not see these as set when the environment loads
through pxegrub.  If I load the environment through pxeboot.bs, the
variables populate ok.  Unfortunately, with pxeboot.bs I experience
extremely high tftp failure rates when compared to pxegrub.

My question is how should I populate these variables in the mfsroot.gz
when loading via pxegrub?


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editor that understands CTRL/B, CTRL/I, CTRL/U

2012-04-24 Thread Anton Shterenlikht 
My daughter is doing a touch typing course
that presumes MS Word. So far she was fine
with pico, but now they want the kids to
practice CTRL/B (bold), CTRL/I (italic),
CTRL/U (underline). She really needs to use
these particular combinations because that
is how the on-line assessment tool is set out.

I use nothing but vi, so have no clue which,
if any, editor from ports/editors will have
these particular combinations implemented.

Please recommend one, preferably as simple
and as small as possible.

Thanks

-- 
Anton Shterenlikht
Room 2.6, Queen's Building
Mech Eng Dept
Bristol University
University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK
Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944
Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423
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RE: LaCie P'9230 Is Not Recognized

2012-04-24 Thread Doug Sampson 
> I went out and got a LaCie P'9230 drive, an external USB 3.0/2.0 2TB drive
> (http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10559). FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE
> #5 running on an Intel D845GEBV2L motherboard does not recognize it.
> 
> Apr 23 15:57:11 test kernel: usb_alloc_device: set address 2 failed
> (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored)
> Apr 23 15:57:11 test kernel: usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device
> descriptor at addr 2 failed, USB_ERR_STALLED
> Apr 23 15:57:12 test kernel: usbd_req_re_enumerate: addr=2, set address
> failed! (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored)
> Apr 23 15:57:12 test kernel: usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device
> descriptor at addr 2 failed, USB_ERR_STALLED
> Apr 23 15:57:13 test kernel: usbd_req_re_enumerate: addr=2, set address
> failed! (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored)
> Apr 23 15:57:13 test kernel: usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device
> descriptor at addr 2 failed, USB_ERR_STALLED
> Apr 23 15:57:13 test kernel: ugen3.2:  at usbus3 (disconnected)
> Apr 23 15:57:13 test kernel: uhub_reattach_port: could not allocate new
> device
> root@test:/usr/home/install#
> 
> 'camcontrol devlist -v' does not indicate any daX devices.
> 
> I've used a variety of smaller external LaCie USB 2.0 drives with this
> motherboard successfully in the past.
> 
> A link at the LaCie web site
> (http://www.lacie.com/more/index.htm?id=10112) indicates that a driver
> needs to be installed on a Mac in order to realize true USB 3.0 speeds.
> Does this mean that for me to use this drive, I need a special driver?
> 
> I've consulted the hardware compatibility list but it appears to not have
> been updated to reflect newer hardware.
> 
> Any advice would be appreciated.
> 

So I sent an email to Technical Support. They basically said they do not 
support any OSes other than Windows and Mac OS X and not even Windows Server. 
That was expected.

That said, are there any USB 3.0/2.0 2TB drives that you are currently using 
with FreeBSD 9.0 or even 8.3?

~Doug
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Re: Ports Libraries - Shared object "libz.so.5" not found

2012-04-24 Thread Dean E. Weimer 

On 24.04.2012 10:07, Carolyn Longfoot wrote:

I'm on 9.0 Release AMD64 and did not have Compat8x installed from
ports which fixed the issue, but I am wondering what (apart from
upgrading *all* ports) would be the correct approach to find out 
which

port needs to be updated so that whatever references the libz.so.5
version instead of libz.so.6 gets updated?

This is very confusing to me because I got the error with php, and I
am on the very latest php5-5.3.10_1 version which I would expect to
reference current libraries.

Now I also have a problem with libssl.so.7, which popped up with
Samba36. Again I'm wondering what version provides the .7 
incarnation.

I found a comment (http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=21886)
that this library is part of security/openssl but a reinstall just 
now

of openssl only gave me libssl.so.8, so that's no longer valid.
Creating a link to libssl.so.7 fixes the problem but is probably not
the correct approach.

I guess the summary of the above is the question how one should go
about keeping/getting the right library versions. Or is that really a
port problem because they do not keep step with dependencies?

An explanation in layman's terms would be appreciated :-)


Thanks,

Caro
  
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pkg_libchk from the sysutils/bsdadminscripts port should show you 
anything that is pointing to a missing shared library.  Yes you should 
rebuild the samba36 port so that it links against the new libssl.so.8 
library.  I ran into a few of these when upgrading from openssl-1.0.0_10 
to openssl-1.0.1, I also believe I hit the libcrypto.so.7 missing as 
well.  I temporary linked them as you did, then rebuilt all ports just 
to be safe.


if you use portmaster to update ports, doing a -r on the openssl port 
would have recompiled all the ports dependent on it.  However in my case 
it blew up because of these missing libraries, adding a -w (causes 
shared libraries to be kept) as well resolved this on the additional 
machines I updated.


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 http://www.dweimer.net/
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Ports Libraries - Shared object "libz.so.5" not found

2012-04-24 Thread Carolyn Longfoot 

I'm on 9.0 Release AMD64 and did not have Compat8x installed from ports which 
fixed the issue, but I am wondering what (apart from upgrading *all* ports) 
would be the correct approach to find out which port needs to be updated so 
that whatever references the libz.so.5 version instead of libz.so.6 gets 
updated?

This is very confusing to me because I got the error with php, and I am on the 
very latest php5-5.3.10_1 version which I would expect to reference current 
libraries.

Now I also have a problem with libssl.so.7, which popped up with Samba36. Again 
I'm wondering what version provides the .7 incarnation.
I found a comment (http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=21886) that this 
library is part of security/openssl but a reinstall just now of openssl only 
gave me libssl.so.8, so that's no longer valid. Creating a link to libssl.so.7 
fixes the problem but is probably not the correct approach.

I guess the summary of the above is the question how one should go about 
keeping/getting the right library versions. Or is that really a port problem 
because they do not keep step with dependencies?

An explanation in layman's terms would be appreciated :-)


Thanks,

Caro
  
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Re: Was..... Lots of lagging after upgrade of xorg. Now keyboard layout is lost

2012-04-24 Thread Leslie Jensen 



2012-04-24 16:01, Warren Block skrev:

On Tue, 24 Apr 2012, Leslie Jensen wrote:

2012-04-23 19:56, Leslie Jensen skrev:

2012-04-23 18:29, Warren Block skrev:

On Mon, 23 Apr 2012, Leslie Jensen wrote:




Use Option

"AutoAddDevices" "Off" to disable HAL input device detection.
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After adding the above Option I lost the Swedish layout of my keyboard.


It's not required to disable HAL, but that's usually what people are
trying to do when they turn off AEI.

To leave HAL enabled, remove the AutoAddDevices option. Keyboard layout
will come from the HAL fdi file.

Keyboard layout can also be set with setxkbmap in .xinitrc or .xsession,
or in the keyboard InputDevice section as Polytropon shows.
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Yes, thank you.

Polytropon solution works for me :-)

/Leslie

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Re: Was..... Lots of lagging after upgrade of xorg. Now keyboard layout is lost

2012-04-24 Thread Warren Block 

On Tue, 24 Apr 2012, Leslie Jensen wrote:

2012-04-23 19:56, Leslie Jensen skrev:

2012-04-23 18:29, Warren Block skrev:

On Mon, 23 Apr 2012, Leslie Jensen wrote:




Use Option

"AutoAddDevices" "Off" to disable HAL input device detection.
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After adding the above Option I lost the Swedish layout of my keyboard.


It's not required to disable HAL, but that's usually what people are 
trying to do when they turn off AEI.


To leave HAL enabled, remove the AutoAddDevices option.  Keyboard layout 
will come from the HAL fdi file.


Keyboard layout can also be set with setxkbmap in .xinitrc or .xsession, 
or in the keyboard InputDevice section as Polytropon shows.

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