Updating the OS after an install

2004-02-03 Thread Krikket
I'm running a freshly installed FreeBSD 4.9 system, and have most of the
kinks worked out.

In going through the manual, I've reached the point where it tells you how
to install software.  I've updated the ports tree, and decided to try my
hand at installing a package.  I chose xine to work with.

So I cd'd to the approperiate directory, and did make  make install.

The system errored out, saying that some of my other packages weren't the
latest versions.  (This happened twice.  libogg and libvorbis, IIRC.  But
that detail isn't important.)  I was able to go to the directory of the
packages that needed to be updated, do a make deinstall, and then
reinstalled those packages.  Which allowed xine to be installed without a
hitch.

(I haven't actually tested it, as I'm working remotely, but from all
indications from looking at the output there wasn't a problem.  In
retrospect, perhaps I should have chosen a different package to test
things out.  Ahh well.)

At this point, I'm willing to bet that it's a fairly safe bet to say that
there are other packages on my system that are in need of updating.  Is
there a way to universally update what's on my system to whatever's in the
ports tree?

Thanks in advance,

Krikket

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Re: Adding Packages and Ports

2004-02-02 Thread Krikket
I'm going to hold off on replying for a day, while I give this stuff a
shot, but this part does raise a question for me...

On Mon, 2 Feb 2004, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 Those packages are what goes onto the FTP sites, and a
 sample of the most popular ones go into the install CDs -- there's
 *far* too much stuff to fit all of it onto a 4 CD distribution set.

I got my copy of FreeBSD by downloading the isos.  CD 1  2 and mini.
That's all that was available.

CD #1 was the only CD that was ever asked for by the system.

Where do the other CD's come into play?

What's the difference between the isos and the 4 cd set?  (Aside from the
number of CDs...)  I haven't seen anything that directly answers this.
I'm more than willing to support the BSD project, assuming the OS meets my
needs (and so far it looks like it probably will)  I was just planning on
starting with the BSD stuffie.  8^)  And the BSD books...

Krikket

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Adding Packages and Ports

2004-02-01 Thread Krikket
I've done a brand-new install of FreeBSD (4.9), and am a fresh user to
this flavor of *nix.

The install went more or less without a hitch.  For some reason ldap (part
of the default package selection) didn't want to install.

While I can ssh to the box, it won't accept the password for users and/or
root.  (IE:  It makes the connection, gives a login prompt, but the
correct password is rejected.  I'm sshing from a Fedora box.)

But the big problem that I'm having, that's turning into a show-stopper
has to deal with installing packages and/or ports, once the base OS is
installed.

To test things out, I tried installing mozilla.  It failed due to a
dependancy, so I checked out the website to see what was available, found
a version that was there, adn installed it.

But when I type mozilla to start the program, it's not found.  (Nor was
it added to the KDE Menu.)

I was able to do a pkg_add -r cvsup on the first try.  But I ended up
with the same problem -- not being able to find the package once it was
installed.  Needless to say, I can't add any ports as a result.

I figure there's something basic that I'm missing, but I'll be damned if I
can figure it out, despite the help of the handbook and FAQ...

Can anyone give me a pointer in the right direction?  Please?

Thanks in advance,

Krikket

(I will say that compared to some flavors of Linux, this install was
absolutely painfree.  I did have to start over on some occasions, due to
minor user errors, but assuming the perfect user during the install
process, it went rather well.  After dealing with the alsa hell of Linux,
gettign sound working on FreeBSD was a very pleasent surprise!)

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Re: Adding Packages and Ports

2004-02-01 Thread Krikket
On Sun, 1 Feb 2004, Roop Nanuwa wrote:
 Krikket wrote:

 I've done a brand-new install of FreeBSD (4.9), and am a fresh user to
 this flavor of *nix.
 
 Welcome, we hope you enjoy your stay :).

Thank you!

 The install went more or less without a hitch.  For some reason ldap (part
 of the default package selection) didn't want to install.
 
 Could you be a bit more specific? What happened during the install? Did
 it give you any
 error messages?

A generic compile error message, nothing specific.  And unfortunately, I
didn't take notes.  (No, I wasn't expecting help with troubleshooting that
point, it was said more in the way of a commentary than anything else.  I
figured that when I got to the point of needing it, I could always install
it at a later time, and if needed ask questions then.)

 To test things out, I tried installing mozilla.  It failed due to a
 dependancy, so I checked out the website to see what was available, found
 a version that was there, adn installed it.

 How are you installing mozilla? There shouldn't be any dependency
 problems in either of the two main ways to install packages on FreeBSD.
 Whether you install via the ports tree or through the package system all
 the dependencies should be handled for you. I think the reason that
 you're having dependency issues is because you're attempting to install
 binaries that you've downloaded that aren't packaged for FreeBSD
 specifically.

I attempted to do a pkg_add -r mozilla.  After checking the on-line
database of software at freebsd.org, I know I tried some versons of the
command lile ... -r linux-mozilla and sometimes with version numbers.  I
forget the exact one that did work.

 But when I type mozilla to start the program, it's not found.  (Nor was
 it added to the KDE Menu.)
 I was able to do a pkg_add -r cvsup on the first try.  But I ended up
 with the same problem -- not being able to find the package once it was
 installed.  Needless to say, I can't add any ports as a result.
 
 Which shell are you running? You might have to run 'rehash' to refresh
 your shell's cache of available programs. Logging in/out would do the
 same but running 'rehash' is simpler/quicker.

bash.  I'll give that a shot.  I'm not at home at the moment, and for some
reason ssh doesn't want to allow me to login.

(I get a login prompt, but it's not accepting the correct password for
either myself or the root accounts.  Even after I called home and had the
roommate reboot the system, just in case something flakey got into
memory.  I'm thinking it may be time to pull out the rubber chicken.)

Krikket

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Re: Adding Packages and Ports

2004-02-01 Thread Krikket
On Sun, 1 Feb 2004, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
 Krikket wrote:

  I was able to do a pkg_add -r cvsup on the first try.  But I ended up
  with the same problem -- not being able to find the package once it was
  installed.  Needless to say, I can't add any ports as a result.

 Why are you using the '-r' option?  If you're using the install 4.9 CDROM,
 just cd to /cdrom/packages/All and:

 pkg_add cvsup-16.1h.tgz

 If you're using ports, cd to /usr/ports/net/cvsup and execute:

 make install clean

Err...  Excuse me while I'm a little bull-headed here, and attempting to
adjust from the linux world.  The reason I was thinking of using the -r
option is because it pulls from the ftp site.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the various versions of freeBSD (3.x,
4.x, and 5.x) are still being worked.  Needless to say, 5.x is the
bleeding edge, but 4.x hasn't been left to go stale.  (Or else how would
security patches get done, when needed?)

Therefore, the thought was to get the latest and greatest from the
net.  No, it's not as bleeding edge as the 5.2 stuff, but if a patch was
done since the 4.9 iso's were made, it would be a good idea to have that
on hand.  So I thought it would be a good thing to use -r as a default
option.  Or am I just using an incorrect line of thinking, due to the flux
that I got used to (and wish to avoid) from when I was dealing with the
Linux world?

So, given that I should have the ports installed from my initial install
phase, all I have to do is the make install clean?  Too cool.  Thank you
for the pointer!

Krikket


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