Re: Proper Method of Time Sync?

2006-04-14 Thread RW
On Friday 14 April 2006 16:53, Dan Nelson wrote:

> ntpd takes a while to sync up and by default won't adjust the clock if
> it's more than 1000 seconds off, so it's a good idea to enable ntpdate
> as well. 

What bothers me about that is that ntpdate uses a single server to determine 
the time. I can't recall the reference, but I recently read a "horror story" 
where someone synched off a timeserver  that had been set to 2038 for testing 
purposes.
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Re: /boot at beginning of drive

2006-04-16 Thread RW
On Sunday 16 April 2006 21:38, Brendan Grossman wrote:

> I agree that it's not a great idea, but considering the software I'm using,
> user files are stored in /var and /home. I don't know what percentage of
> quotas users will use for emails, databases, or home dirs, and I don't want
> to take a guess. If say they were to use a lot of their quota for
> databases, then down the track I don't want to have the problem with /var
> full but users still under their quota.
>
> By the way just did an install, and it boots fine with the swap, /tmp, /
> structure.

The default is to put most of the space under /usr and symlink /home 
to /usr/home. There's no reason why you can't extend this, and if you really 
must, put and /var and /tmp  under /usr too. 
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Re: /boot at beginning of drive

2006-04-16 Thread RW
On Sunday 16 April 2006 21:51, Brendan Grossman wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Beech Rintoul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, 17 April 2006 6:19 AM
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Cc: Brendan Grossman
> > Subject: Re: /boot at beginning of drive
> >
> > On Sunday 16 April 2006 12:38, Brendan Grossman wrote:
> > > > It's not a good idea to put everything on the / filesystem.
> > > > At a minimum I would have:
> > > > /
> > > > swap
> > > > /var
> > > > /usr
> > > >
> > > > Your users will not fill up /var unless you allow them unlimited
> > > > mail, databases or access to root.
> > >
> > > They will have unlimited access up until their quota has
> >
> > been reached.
> >
> > > Where they use that quota is anyone's guess.
> > >
> > > > User's tempfiles will go to /usr/tmp.
> > >
> > > How does that work? I just checked /tmp, and it's not a symlink.
> >
> > Copy the contents of /tmp to /usr/tmp then remove /tmp and
> > symlink /usr/tmp to /tmp.
>
> Yes, may I ask what the point is though?
>
> Here is my reason for separating /tmp and mounting it noexec,nosuid:
>
> http://www.sagonet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2852

Then have it as a separate partition, this has no relevance to your situation 
at all. 
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Re: /boot at beginning of drive

2006-04-16 Thread RW
On Sunday 16 April 2006 22:30, Brendan Grossman wrote:
> > Having a separate /tmp slice is not a bad idea, combining /,
> > /usr, and /var is unless you're doing a very minimal install.
>
> I can separate /usr, but my goal is to combine /home and /var, or at least
> where mail and databases are stored, for reasons already mentioned.
>
> I suppose I could do this...
>
> / 5gb

That's far too  big,  my  /  has 166MB on it, including  a substantial amount 
of cruft. 

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Re: IPFW Problems

2006-04-17 Thread RW
On Monday 17 April 2006 22:29, Noah Silverman wrote:

> ipfw add 0430 allow log tcp from any to me 22 in via bge0 setup limit
> src-addr 2
> ipfw add 00499 deny log all from any to any in via bge0
>
> In theory, this should allow in SSH and nothing else.
>

What happens when you replace  "limit src-addr 2" with keep-state?

If that works replace it with "limit src-addr 200" and work down/
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Re: IPFW Problems?

2006-04-17 Thread RW
On Tuesday 18 April 2006 00:42, Chuck Swiger wrote:
> David Wolfskill wrote:

> > I thought check-state was fairly optional; ref:
> >
> >  These dynamic rules, which have a limited lifetime, are checked at
> > the first occurrence of a check-state, keep-state or limit rule, and are
> > typ- ically used to open the firewall on-demand to legitimate traffic
> > only. See the STATEFUL FIREWALL and EXAMPLES Sections below for more
> > informa- tion on the stateful behaviour of ipfw.
> >
> > (from "man ipfw" on a 4.11 system).
>
> Yeah...but a rule like "from any to any 22 out via bge0 setup keep-state"
> isn't going to match inbound established traffic, right?

But the man page doesn't say *matching* rule, it says: " the first occurrence 
of a check-state, keep-state or limit rule". It is pretty vague though.

The inference I take from this is that  check-state mostly exists so you can 
force an early, fast hash-table lookup.
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Re: CPUTYPE Optimizations

2006-04-18 Thread RW
On Tuesday 18 April 2006 05:47, Brian McKeon wrote:
> Bradford Fisher wrote:
> >Gathering information as I begin building my optimized make.conf, I
> >collected from my sysctl output that I'm running on an Intel Pentium(R)
> >4 2.53 GHz processor.  I was wondering what architecture would be best
> >applied to the CPUTYPE flag.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >-Brad
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> CPUTYPE=pentium4
> or
> CPUTYPE=pentium4m
> for a mobile chip
>
> seems logical. however it depends on the type of pentium 4 you have.
> There is one chip with more bells and whistles (SSE3 I believe) that has
> a specific CPUTYPE associated with it you'd have to check out GCC's
> website and lookinto the -march option I know the optimized p4 has a
> different name from the general p4 variants, but its exact name escapes
> me as I only have the general run of the mill version.
>

Just run 

   grep SSE /var/run/dmesg.boot

if you see SSE3 the type is prescott

It's sometimes useful to look in /usr/share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk where a lot of this 
stuff is defined.
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DHCP client and PF rules

2006-04-20 Thread RW


My desktop PC get its IP address from a PPPoA modem connected with ethernet. I 
started logging DHCP in PF, to make sure I wasn't dropping anything, but the 
*only* packets  I'm seeing are incoming broadcast:

pass in on vr0: 10.0.0.2.67 > 255.255.255.255.68: BOOTP/DHCP, Reply, 
length: 548

I presume that the DHCP client is bypassing the firewall, but I'm wondering 
about these incoming  broadcast packets - whether they have already been seen 
(and can be dropped) or not. The sessions are renewing without any specific 
DHCP rules.

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Re: portmanager and linux-flashplugin6 removed

2006-04-20 Thread RW
On Thursday 20 April 2006 22:25, Chris Whitehouse wrote:
> Hi
>
> I've just cvsup'ed ports and run portmanager -s. Part way through it
> asks me if it can remove linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_3 because of the
> licencing issue. When I say no portmanager quits. Actual output below.
>
> 1) Would it be possible for portmanager to at least allow me to complete
> the status request?
> 2) Since I installed linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_3 before macromedia
> changed the licence shouldn't I be able to keep it?
> 3) Is the FreeBSD project required to make sure that I remove this port
> as opposed to bringing it to my attention that I may be legally required
> to remove it?

This is nothing to do, with the legal position. Portmanager just can't hand 
this situation; all it can do is work on the assumption that the 
functionality has moved elsewhere and remove the port to prevent conflicts.

You could try using the -ip option, or alternately restore the original port 
contents, and do minimal maintainence on it yourself.

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Re: IPFW Problems

2006-04-20 Thread RW
On Thursday 20 April 2006 05:14, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote:
> On 4/20/06, Drew Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 4/17/2006 2:29 PM Noah Silverman wrote:

> > > ipfw add 00280 allow tcp from any to any 22 out via bge0 setup
> > > keep-state ipfw add 00299 deny log all from any to any out via bge0
> > > ipfw add 0430 allow log tcp from any to me 22 in via bge0 setup limit
> > > src-addr 2
> >
> > I think this line is your problem.  "setup" matches the initial packet
> > with the syn flag set.  However since you have not added "keep-state",
> > no rule gets added to the dynamic rule set for this connection.

"limit" creates a dynamic rule, just like keep-state

> Yes. 'setup' is from "semi-stateful" firewall functionality while
> 'keep-state' is from fully stateful one. You can't use both in
> one rule without strange consequences. Just delete 'setup'
> words in both rules - it'll probably be fine.


Yes you can. When I used IPFW I did it that way and never had any problems.  

All it's saying is that a dynamic rule can only be setup by the legitimate 
first packet of a tcp handshake, and not by an out-of-sequence tcp packet. 
Once the dynamic rule exists, it passes packets with any tcp flags.
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Re: Putting /tmp on a separate volume?

2006-04-22 Thread RW
On Saturday 22 April 2006 10:31, Oliver Iberien wrote:
> I followed the automatic suggestions for slices at install time and now
> have a /tmp folder of 500M. This fills up at odd times and I was hoping to
> install a second drive and mount a section of it as /tmp.
>
> So far I managed to get a second drive partitioned. I replaced the slice
> in /etc/fstab for /tmp with one of the new partitions (in this case,
> ad1s1c). KDE would not start because it did not have the permissions for
> /tmp any more, so I put the following entries in /etc/devfs.conf:
>
> own/dev/ad1s1c root:wheel
> perm   /dev/ad1s1c 0777
> own/tmproot:wheel
> perm   /tmp0777
>
> That didn't work. I initially tried with 0666 but that failed as well. The
> 0777 did not seem like a good long-term solution anyway.
>

01777


But before you do that try setting

clear_tmp_enable="YES"  in /etc/rc.conf

and

   daily_clean_tmps_enable="YES" in /etc/periodic.conf  

My /tmp typically has < 1MB  in it. 

There are a few programs that need huge amounts of tmp space, but IMHO it's 
better to configure them to use somewhere else, rather than assign a large 
amount of space to /tmp
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Re: A portupgrade question

2006-04-24 Thread RW
On Monday 24 April 2006 12:50, Richard Collyer wrote:
> On Mon, April 24, 2006 12:16 pm, Ian Moore wrote:
> > On Monday 24 April 2006 20:43, Ian Moore wrote:
> >> Hi, I've got a question about portupgrade and something that's happened
> >> with it a couple of times now. The last 2 times libgda has been
> >> upgraded,
> >> I've run portupgrade -a to upgrade a bunch of ports, including libgda.
> >>
> >>  
>
> I always use portupgrade -aR to make sure dependencies are done. However
> with mysql I find that portupgrade is not the best.
>

 -a,   -ra, -Ra and -RrA  all do *exactly*  the same thing.



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Re: A portupgrade question

2006-04-24 Thread RW
On Monday 24 April 2006 21:29, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> RW wrote:
> >On Monday 24 April 2006 12:50, Richard Collyer wrote:
> >>On Mon, April 24, 2006 12:16 pm, Ian Moore wrote:
> >>>On Monday 24 April 2006 20:43, Ian Moore wrote:
> >>>>Hi, I've got a question about portupgrade and something that's happened
> >>>>with it a couple of times now. The last 2 times libgda has been
> >>>>upgraded,
> >>>>I've run portupgrade -a to upgrade a bunch of ports, including libgda.
> >>>>
> >>>> 
> >>
> >>I always use portupgrade -aR to make sure dependencies are done. However
> >>with mysql I find that portupgrade is not the best.
> >
> > -a,   -ra, -Ra and -RrA  all do *exactly*  the same thing
>
> Not true. -a is for all, -r is recursive, -R is upper recursive, and -A
> is not even valid given the syntax above...

Obviously -RrA was a typo for -Rra, but the rest is correct.

If you omit -F  and include -a, then the -r and -R options are ignored. 
Hence -a,   -ra, -Ra and -Rra are all equivalent.

> All I can say is, "RTFM": portupgrade(1).

All I can say is "RTFS": /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade.
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Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-20 Thread RW
On Thursday 15 September 2005 02:28, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> As a result the existence of these programs discourages interest in native
> FreeBSD programs, and encourages people not to wholeheartedly switch
> over to FreeBSD. 

That would be true if you could download any windows software, run the 
installer and have it work just like on Windows. That's not the case, wine is 
nowhere near that good. Most applictions that run at all are a pain to setup 
and use. 

I know from personal experience that the current situation, where wine 
promises more than it delivers, is very helpful in getting people to swap 
over. One of the applictions I didn't want to lose was Forte Agent (1.x). 
This has a reputation for working well under wine; even so I had so many 
problems that I started using Pan as a stopgap until I got Agent working 
properly.  In the end I just got used to Pan.

However bad wine is for day to day use, and however good the native 
alternatives get, there remain occasions when it is essential to use an 
industry-standard Microsoft application. For example, if you are applying for 
a job, you have to check that your cv/resume views correctly on a real  
microsoft word.
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Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-20 Thread RW
On Tuesday 20 September 2005 14:52, Ashley Moran wrote:
> RW wrote:
>>  For example, if you are applying
> > for a job, you have to check that your cv/resume views correctly on a
> > real microsoft word.
>
> Why not submit your CV as a PDF?

Because it's common for companies and recruitment agencies to specify MS Word 
documents only. It's a de facto standard. 

Actually I don't find pdf to be as portable as they should be, I've seen lots 
of example that wont display completely or properly. 
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Re: Firefox and Flash ...

2005-09-20 Thread RW
On Monday 19 September 2005 20:57, Kiffin Gish wrote:
> I know I am not the first nor more than likely the last, but I cannot
> for the life of me get Flash to work in Firefox 1.0.6 on FreeBSD 5.4.
>
> I've tried everything according to the FreeBSD handbook, mailing lists,
> etc, but still when there is a page with Flash, poor Firefox chokes and
> dies.
>
> One thing interesting I noticed though, which might be a hint, is that
> if I exit Xfce, logout, login this time as root, fire up Xfce again and
> then run Firefox, everything works without a hitch, e.g. even
> flash-based pages don't crash Firefox. Weird.
>
> What gives?

do you have linux-flashplugin and linuxpluginwrapper?

have you configured /etc/libmap.conf as specified when the  
 linuxpluginwrapper installs

BTW I don't have plugger installed - I don't think it's needed.
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Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-21 Thread RW
On Tuesday 20 September 2005 15:50, Dimitar Vasilev wrote:
> If you use openoffice and then export to PDF it ok.
> If you're able to write your resume in PostScript and then convert it
> to PDF that would be perfect solution.
> Regards,

You are missing the point.  I'm not asking for advice about how to create a 
CV, I'm pointing out an instance where it's virtually essential to use a real 
copy of MS word to edit (or at least check) a document before it's sent. 

If someone has to wade through hundreds of CVs and you have not submitted 
yours in the format they asked for, or have submitted a badly formated copy, 
then you place yourself at a severe disadvantage.
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Re: IE in FreeBSD?

2005-09-22 Thread RW
On Wednesday 21 September 2005 19:00, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday 20 September 2005 14:52, Ashley Moran wrote:
> >>>> RW wrote:

> >>> Because it's common for companies and recruitment agencies to
> >>> specify MS Word
> >>> documents only. It's a de facto standard.
>
> I have never gotten grief when I tell the recruiter that I do not
> have Word and I do not support proprietary formats and then send a PDF.

You are missing the point.

If and when you *are* disadvantaged by using PDF, no-one will tell you. 
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Re: Recommended AGP Nvidia card?

2005-09-22 Thread RW
On Thursday 22 September 2005 07:58, jason wrote:
> Kirk Strauser wrote:
> >I use an aging MX 400 in my desktop machine (FreeBSD 6.0something) and
> >really, *really* want to upgrade to something that supports the
> > RenderAccel option.  This machine has become glacially slow since some
> >as-yet-undetermined upgrade broken that functionality, but I'd ideally
> > like to be able to use X.org's Composite extension as well so simple
> > downgrading probably won't help.
> >
> >Any suggestions for a cheap, well-supported card?
>
> Have you checked the docs for the nvidia drivers?  All geforce series
> should have full, or near full, hardware acceleration since nvidia
> releases there own closed source drivers.

Xorg doesn't even start on my GeForce FX 5700LE with the 
composite extension.


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Re: NVRM: AGP cannot be enabled on this combination of the AMD CPU and OS kernel

2005-09-25 Thread RW
On Sunday 25 September 2005 22:41, dick hoogendijk wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 22:06:48 +0100
>
> > http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=52388
>
> OK, I read the news msgs on this board and get the impression you're
> trying to say to me it's because I use an amd64? But I run a normal
> i386 FreeBSD OS on this machine, one for which the nvidia driver is
> written. So I don't expect 64bit warnings on this 32bits machine.

No, people getting this problem are using i386 on an AMD 64 (there is no 
nvidia driver for amd64, you have to use the open source nv driver).

The problem, as I understand it, is that neither the FreeBSD nor the NVidia 
AGP driver works with the nvidia driver on some AMD 64s. Consequently you 
don't get the full data transfer rate of the AGP slot.

Personally I don't see any consequnces of this,  for example OpenGL works 
perfectly well on Quake 2.
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Re: Cleanup unused files and other junk ...

2005-09-26 Thread RW
On Monday 26 September 2005 20:50, Kiffin Gish wrote:
> Is there a good and dependable procedure for cleaning up the file
> systems from unused junk that just clutters valuable disc space?
>
> I am already aware of the 'periodic daily' scripts
> 'clear_tmp_enable=YES' option for the rc.conf file, but where else can
> one safely remove files.
>
> For example, is it safe to delete all distfiles?

Deleting *all* distfiles is a bad idea if you plan on keeping your ports up to 
date; the majority of port updates involve applying patches to the same 
source files.

portupgrade comes with a utility called portsclean that will clean out 
unneccessary files from the port system.
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Re: file name case issue on fat32 (Was: Re: Sharing data files on a dual-boot machine ...)

2005-09-27 Thread RW
On Tuesday 27 September 2005 14:22, martinko wrote:

> ok. unfortunately i forgot most of my knowledge from the old days of
> ms-dos but what i can say even without it is this -- it's not about
> windows explorer only. i can see the correct file names in all
> applications (under windows of course), i believe. and if windows knows
> whether there should be an "A" or "a" then why freebsd cannot?
>


Your use of the word "correct" is odd. FreeBSD uses the filename stored on the 
disk - the one put there when the file was created. The display of filename 
case and the case sensitivity of the filesystem are two different issues. The 
real question is why Windows needlessly overides the choices of it's users.
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Re: file name case issue on fat32 (Was: Re: Sharing data files on a dual-boot machine ...)

2005-09-27 Thread RW
On Tuesday 27 September 2005 15:15, Micah wrote:

> > ps: and, btw, how freebsd knows there's a capital A in "A.txt~" ?
> > because it's stored on the filesystem in that way, i guess. being
> > case-insensitive doesn't (necessarily)  mean a FS doesn't keep a case,
> > imho.
>
> The reason is as follows: a.txt is an 8.3 filename and is stored on
> fat32 in the old dos format.  a.txt~ is NOT an 8.3 filename and is
> stored on fat32 in the extended long filename format.  Case information
> is not stored in 8.3's file names.  They're always the same case, but I
> can't remember now if they're stored as upper or lower case.  Extended
> long filenames do store case information, even though windows ignores
> the case (as was pointed out earlier).  FreeBSD is displaying 8.3 names
> as lowercase probably to mimic the tendency of unix filenames to be
> lowercase.  Windows displays 8.3 names as upper case probably to mimic dos.


The 8.3 names and the long names are stored separately whatever the name 
format.  FreeBSD  displays the long name even when the filename fits the 8.3 
format.   
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Re: file name case issue on fat32 (Was: Re: Sharing data files on a dual-boot machine ...)

2005-09-27 Thread RW
On Tuesday 27 September 2005 15:56, Micah wrote:
> The directory structure of fat32 is still the same as from dos.  In
> order to create long filenames, Windows uses subsequent directory
> entries to store the extra filename characters.  If a filename fits the
> 8.3 format, Windows (at least Win98) does not bother to create the extra
> entries for the long filename record.  If there's no ong filename
> record, how can FreeBSD use the long filename?



The files in question are shown as having names like A.txt in windows, ie 
mixed case. The Dos directory command always shows completly uppercase names 
for the 8.3 names

I have plenty of 8.3 files that dos DIR shows as having uppercase 8.3 names  
*and* mixed/lower-case full names. So either dos/windows does create the 
extra-filename for files with an 8.3 name format, or it stores the mixed-case 
name in the legacy 8.3 field in it's  case and DIR converts to uppercase. 

Either way around the case that is found by FreeBSD should be the same as if 
it were reading a long-filename.  
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Re: Questions regarding FreeBSD packages and dependancies

2005-09-27 Thread RW
On Tuesday 27 September 2005 16:21, Milscvaer wrote:
> I tried to use pkg_add to install a new program from
> stable, however, it complained about older versions of
> gtk being installed and refused to continue. Why not
> just leave the old versions of Gtk there so existing
> programs may continue to use them, and have new
> programs installed from stable use the new version?

I don't use packages much, but I think it's the case that a package won't 
install if it was built against a dependency that is newer that the one you 
have installed.

Note  GTK1  and GTK2 are separate and can co-exists, so I think you need to 
identiy which GTK port it's asking for and update it.
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Re: Questions regarding FreeBSD packages and dependancies

2005-09-27 Thread RW
On Tuesday 27 September 2005 17:15, RW wrote:

> I don't use packages much, but I think it's the case that a package won't
> install if it was built against a dependency that is newer that the one you
> have installed.
>
> Note  GTK1  and GTK2 are separate and can co-exists, so I think you need to
> identiy which GTK port it's asking for and update it.

Forgot to mention.

Alternately, you can probably just force the installation, and then fix the 
dependencies afterwards.
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Re: Set options to deamons

2005-09-27 Thread RW
On Tuesday 27 September 2005 18:32, Efren Bravo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> How do I set options to deamons?
>
> For instance, I've been reading a security doc and it says: "Syslogd can
> be attacked directly and it's strongly recommended that you use -s option
> whenever possible, and the -a option otherwise".
>
> If Syslogd start when the OS start, how do I set the -s option.
>

Set 

   syslogd_flags="-s" 

in rc.conf.  

However, if you look in  /etc/defaults/rc.conf , you will find that that is 
already the default.
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Re: quick TTY Question

2005-09-30 Thread RW
On Wednesday 28 September 2005 03:41, Eric Murphy wrote:
> I have gdm set in /etc/ttys instead of xdm... 

I don't use GDM and I don't know if this is the cause of the problem, but:

From: /usr/ports/UPDATING

20050411:
  AFFECTS: users of x11/gdm
  AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  GDM now installs a rcNG script for starting the gdm daemon.
  To enable that gdm starts a boot time, add the following to /etc/rc.conf:

  gdm_enable="YES"

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Re: FBSD 5.4 - netstat -p tcp

2005-09-30 Thread RW
On Friday 30 September 2005 17:15, Brian Henning wrote:
> All,
>
> Using FBSD 5.4 and trying to see if there are open ports on my
> machine. when i use netstat -p tcp, it yields no results, but i know
> for a fact that i am running an sshd server on the machine because i
> am logged in remotely with putty.

sockstat -l
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Re: quick TTY Question

2005-09-30 Thread RW
On Friday 30 September 2005 18:55, Michał Masłowski wrote:
> On Friday 30 of September 2005 19:18, RW wrote:
> > On Wednesday 28 September 2005 03:41, Eric Murphy wrote:
> > > I have gdm set in /etc/ttys instead of xdm...
> >
> > I don't use GDM and I don't know if this is the cause of the problem,
> > but:
> >
> > From: /usr/ports/UPDATING
> >
> > 20050411:
> >   AFFECTS: users of x11/gdm
> >   AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >   GDM now installs a rcNG script for starting the gdm daemon.
> >   To enable that gdm starts a boot time, add the following to
> > /etc/rc.conf:
> >
> >   gdm_enable="YES"
>
> If you don't use GDM, it won't affect you.

I am aware of that. 

Not having it installed does affect my ability to test whether starting GDM 
from rc.conf solves the problem.
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Re: FreeBSD + Firefox + Flash Problems

2005-10-02 Thread RW
On Sunday 02 October 2005 15:31, Vladimir Tsvetkov wrote:

> But there are no indications at all, that Firefox is using the
> installed plugins. Still Firefox continues to inform me about missing
> plugins.

Did you follow all the instruction that were displayed when linuxpluginwrapper 
was installed. I didn't see any mention of the last one:

$ tail -n 4 /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper/pkg-message

Now start browser and go to 'about:plugins' and the new plugins
are enabled!
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Re: cvsup and non-arch specific files download prevention

2005-10-03 Thread RW
On Monday 03 October 2005 10:44, Gobbledegeek wrote:
> Hello
>I'm upgrading from 4.7 to 5.4 using cvsup and I see that with
> src-all, files specific to s390, spark, ppc are also being downloaded.
> How can I prevent this from happening? I only want to download i386
> files...

Most of the files are platform independent. The overhead from all the non-i386 
platforms put together is only about 4%.

BTW I think ppc is parallel printer port support, not the powerPC platform.


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Re: Cheap Hardware for Home Network

2005-10-09 Thread RW
On Sunday 09 October 2005 10:18, Live-Wire wrote:
> I'm building a new box specifically do take care of a lot of things on
> my home network; dns, qmail,
> apache, sftp, printer server, a fileserver, etc. Some of the services,
> like apache, will also be exposed to
> the internet, but only for the use of friends and family. And most
> important, I'm doing this all on the cheap -

> I'm hellbent on AMD, and the Sempron 3100+ (754) is looking pretty
> sharp. I have a GeForce4 Ti 4600 lying
>
> So again, this is a nice opportunity to buy hardware specifically
> tailored for what I am using it for - I have zero
> concern for expandability. What is the best fit?


The system you mention seems to be completly out of step  with what you want 
from it. 

If you want a server that's on most or all  of the day and runs such an 
undemanding load, you would be better off checking out some cheap, slow , 
low-power machines. With a desktop machine such as you specify, the electrity 
may well be a major part of the total cost over several years. Low power cpus 
also run much quieter, with little or no fan noise.

I don't see why you need graphics at all.
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Re: portmanager

2005-10-12 Thread RW
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 11:48, Igor Robul wrote:
> Gerard Seibert wrote:
> >* REPLY SEPARATOR *
> >On 10/10/2005 5:45:56 AM, Gerard Seibert Replied:
> >
> >Would it be possible to issue a $PATH statement from within the CRON to
> >alleviate this problem? I have not actually tried this method, but I do
> >use it for other programs that I run from CRON and it seems to works
> >just fine.
>
> You can always add shell script wrapper, which sets PATH. This way you
> can avoid adding functions to cron.

I'm probably missing something, because I can't see what the problem is.

crontab(5) says you can define environmental variables in a crontab; and the 
default system crontab already has a PATH variable pre-defined, although it 
doesn't include /usr/local/bin in the path.
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Re: portmanager

2005-10-12 Thread RW
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 20:42, Michael C. Shultz wrote:
> On Sunday 09 October 2005 07:53, Michael Lednev wrote:
> > Hello, freebsd-questions.
> >
> > anyone  tried  to  run  portmanager  from  crontab?  as for me it just
> > coredumps, what am i doing wrong? its simply 0 0 * * * portmanager -s
>
> I'm not sure how to fix it but I've found where portmanager crashes
> when run from cron, the code is:
>
>
>if( !strncmp( getenv("TERM"), "xterm", 5 ) && isatty(fileno(stdout))
> ) {
>stringSize  = strlen( id )
>+ 1
>+ strlen( VERSION )
>+ 1;
>xtermTitle  = malloc( stringSize );
>xtermTitle[0]   = 0;
>strcat( xtermTitle, id );
>strcat( xtermTitle, " " );
>strcat( xtermTitle, VERSION );
>printf( "%c]0;%s%c", '\033', xtermTitle, '\007' );
>free( xtermTitle );
>}
>
>
> This is used to put information in the xterm title screen while portmanager
> is running, I don't know enough about cron to have a clue how to fix this
> except to remove it and I don't want to do that.  Anyone have any ideas?

I think getenv() returns NULL if a variable isn't defined, and strncmp() will 
try to dereference any pointer it's given without checking.
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Re: portmanager

2005-10-13 Thread RW
On Thursday 13 October 2005 07:17, Igor Robul wrote:
> RW wrote:
> >I'm probably missing something, because I can't see what the problem is.
> >
> >crontab(5) says you can define environmental variables in a crontab; and
> > the default system crontab already has a PATH variable pre-defined,
> > although it doesn't include /usr/local/bin in the path.
>
> But you may not wish export PATH with /usr/local/bin to all your cron jobs.

You don't need to. Variable definitions only apply to the lines that come 
after them - and a variable may be redefined.
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Re: [Fwd: Re: port config questions]

2005-10-19 Thread RW
On Thursday 20 October 2005 00:14, Chris wrote:
> Sorry, sent to respondent instead of list, resending to list
> Michael C. Shultz wrote:
> > Setting BATCH=YES in /etc/make.conf will prevent those blue screens from
> > popping up.  I'm not sure if this is risky or not but BATCH=YES is a
> > permament fixture in my make.conf and haven't noticed any problems yet.
>
> Does that stop interactive ports being compiled or make them compile
> with defaults? bsd.ports.mk says that BATCH mode would make portupgrade
> 'skip all the important targets' but I'm not sure what that means.

Setting BATCH stops interactive ports being built, many ports also use BATCH 
as an indication that they should run with default settings, or  whatever is 
set in make.conf etc.  A few ports are genuinely interactive, e.g. they may 
have legal conditions that must be  agreed. Many more are conditionally 
interactive, they may set the IS_INTERACTIVE flag if they find inconsistent, 
or incomplete, configuration.

It would be nice if there were some way of running "make config-conditional" 
in just the ports that are out of date. The blue menu screens are a useful 
way of spotting new port options, and you lose that if you set BATCH.
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Re: [Fwd: Re: port config questions]

2005-10-20 Thread RW
On Thursday 20 October 2005 03:52, Parv wrote:
> in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> wrote RW thusly...
>
> >  The blue menu screens are a useful way of spotting new port
> >  options, and you lose that if you set BATCH.
>
> OPTIONS are right there in the Makefile. 

I have 470 ports installed, that's a lot of Makefiles to check for changes. 
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Re: A simple ports question...

2005-10-20 Thread RW
On Thursday 20 October 2005 15:25, makisupa wrote:
> How would you install a port that had dependencies that were older than
> identical items on your system?
>
> For example, you install portx that requires depend1.1 -- you have
> depend1.2 on your system.  

This will happen if you have an out-of-date ports tree, and have installed 
packages built against a newer tree. Try bringing your tree up-to-date with 
cvsup or portsnap. See the handbook for details. 

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Re: A simple ports question...

2005-10-20 Thread RW
On Thursday 20 October 2005 16:35, makisupa wrote:
> Thanks for the reply...
>
> My ports tree is up to date -- i believe the "problem" (if you want to
> call it that) is that I installed gnome 2.12 from package at marcuscom
> (on a 6.0 RC1 system -- i needed 6.0 for some HW issues).  I therefore
> have newer versions of certain files than many of the ports in the
> current tree are expecting.  Does this sound like a reasonable
> explanation?

Not entirely. FreeBSD releases all share the same ports tree, and neither 
gnome 2.12 nor glib-2.8.3 are in it. It sounds like you picked up a 
work-in-progress, development version of Gnome rather than simply the current 
version built against a 6.0 based system

> Your answer is the one everyone has been telling me for the last week.
> And i truly appreciate the response.  I keep thinking i'm asking the
> question wrong :)  I would understand this answer if the dependencies i
> had were OLDER than what the port was looking for...but I have a NEWER
> version.  For example, while installing pan2 it needs glib-2.6.6.  I
> have glib-2.8.3.  How can i properly get this port installed?

It really depend why you got packages for 2.12 rather than the current ports 
version. If gnome 2.10.2. is broken on  6.0-RC1, then it's going to be 
tricky. The fact that make install in the pan2 directory causes  glib to 
build suggest that some port isn't compatible with glib-2.8.3. 

On the other hand if you simply got the 2.12 version because it was there, I 
would suggest removing it and installing  2.10.2 - presumably pointyhat has a 
compatible version. Alternately portmanager will probably be able to handle 
the reversion through the port system.

You also have the options of waiting for 2.12 to hit the ports tree, or doing 
without gnome.

Forcing the glib-2.6.6 registration will overwrite the glib-2.8.3 version 
which may break gnome.

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Problem with groups

2005-10-21 Thread RW

From a KDE Root console, I changed a directory's permissions to 770 and added 
my account to it's  group with pw. In another console, under my own account, 
I tried to cd into the directory and failed, no gui application could access 
the directory either. pw showed I was a member of the group.  I logged in 
though a virtual terminal, under the same account, and was able to cd to the 
directory. And once I restarted the KDE session from KDM, the problem went 
away.

Is this normal behaviour? Is there any way around it?

I'm running   5.4-RELEASE-p8 if it make a difference.
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Re: newbie

2005-10-24 Thread RW
On Monday 24 October 2005 06:51, Eyad Salah wrote:
> I'm kinda new to Linux, How can I start FreeBSD GUI (Like windows)?

FreeBSD is not Linux.
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Re: Disc space

2005-10-26 Thread RW
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 16:08, Igor Robul wrote:

> 2) you can buy more memory and use memory backed md (4) /tmp

And you can create a 100 MB memory-backed /tmp simply by adding the following 
to rc.conf

tmpmfs="YES" 
tmpsize="100m" 
tmpmfs_flags="-SM"

If you omit the tmpmfs_flags line, it will default to swap-backed /tmp, which 
may be more useful.

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Re: KDE

2005-11-01 Thread RW
On Monday 31 October 2005 07:38, Michael C. Shultz wrote:
> On Sunday 30 October 2005 22:15, Jack Thompson wrote:
> > Hello, and Please   ,,,Somebody nudge me in the right direction,
> > I have a successful install of 6.0 RC1, and when I startx  it comes up
> > with three boxes , of  xterminals
> > I have Installed all the KDE files off CD,  Where I'm stuck is ,is there
> > a config file I need to edit to bring up KDE,??
> > Or have I not fully gotten all the necessary files loaded in at install,
> > ?? Been reading in the handbook  but not finding
> > what I'm needing , This is my first time to ask a question to a list ,
> > Please be easy on a newbie, And of coarse
> > Thanks for any replies, JBT.
>
> to .xinitrc in your home diectory add only this line:
>
> exec startkde

Alternately, set the following in /etc/ttys

ttyv8  "/usr/local/bin/kdm -nodaemon"   xterm   on secure

and reboot to bring up KDE's graphical login manager
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Re: Installing wine on 6.0 RC

2005-11-03 Thread RW
On Thursday 03 November 2005 14:29, paul thodiyil wrote:
> On 11/4/05, Andrew P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 11/3/05, paul thodiyil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I am sort of new to FreeBSD and still learning the ropes. I am having
> >
> > great
> >
> > > trouble installing WINE and indeed other packages on my AMD64 desktop
> > > running FreeBSD ver 6.0. I had added this package during the
> >
> > installation
> >
> > > process.
> > > With the 'whereis wine' command, I get: /usr/ports/emulators/wine
> > > Then when I type pkg_add wine, I get 'can't stat package file wine'
> > > Could someone tell me what I could be doing wrong?
> > > Paul
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> > Wine does not run on anything but x86 yet. Sorry.

> Many thanks. Saves me a lot of sweat.

Are you aware that an amd 64 processor can run either the AMD64 or i386  
versions of FreeBSD?  Wine will run on the the later.

It wasn't clear to me  whether "on my AMD64 desktop" referred to the OS or the 
CPU.  If you have installed the AMD64 version of the OS then I would advise 
you to consider replacing it with the I386 version, which has fewer rough 
edges.  


The actual problem you report will happen on *any* system:

# pkg_add  wine
pkg_add: can't stat package file 'wine'

The correct usage is either

pkg_add -r  wine#install a wine package from a server

or something like:

pkg_add wine-20050930.tbz #install this particular local file
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Re: OFF-TOPIC but ... you will laugh !!

2005-11-03 Thread RW
On Thursday 03 November 2005 04:27, Moffatt, Chris wrote:
> It is a reserved word from the DOS days (like "prn") 

Now that is funny - prn is where the texting generation will expect to store 
their porn.
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Re: Updating from 5.4-STABLE to 6.0-STABLE

2005-11-05 Thread RW
On Saturday 05 November 2005 13:48, Anthony M. Agelastos wrote:


> will updating from 5.4 to 6.0 give me these changes or
> will I have to reformat the drives with the updated UFS2?

This was asked and answer yesterday - only 11 threads ago. 

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Re: update kde

2005-11-05 Thread RW
On Saturday 05 November 2005 16:16, eoghan wrote:
> Hello
> Im just looking for some advice. Ive updated my ports since kde has
> gone to 3.4.3. Im currently using 3.4.2. I want to upgrade. But Im
> not sure if I do this will I loose all my current settings - like
> desktop items etc. Also, do I do a pkg_remove kde3 and then pkg_add -
> r kde3? I dont want to try anything just yet in case I mess things up...

You shouldn't lose any settings unless someone has screwed up (I usually 
hold-off major upgrades for a week or so to catch immediate bug-fixes).

There are instructions here:

http://freebsd.kde.org/instructions.php

Note that you will need to set PACKAGESITE to a source of the new packages 
otherwise you will simply reinstall to old version. I used to use the 
fruitsalad servers, although I build KDE from ports these days.
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Re: update kde

2005-11-05 Thread RW
On Saturday 05 November 2005 17:27, eoghan wrote:
> On 5 Nov 2005, at 17:13, RW wrote:
> > On Saturday 05 November 2005 16:16, eoghan wrote:
> >> Hello
> >> Im just looking for some advice. Ive updated my ports since kde has
> >> gone to 3.4.3. Im currently using 3.4.2. I want to upgrade. But Im
> >> not sure if I do this will I loose all my current settings - like
> >> desktop items etc. Also, do I do a pkg_remove kde3 and then pkg_add -
> >> r kde3? I dont want to try anything just yet in case I mess things
> >> up...
> >
> > You shouldn't lose any settings unless someone has screwed up (I
> > usually
> > hold-off major upgrades for a week or so to catch immediate bug-
> > fixes).
> >
> > There are instructions here:
> >
> > http://freebsd.kde.org/instructions.php
> >
> > Note that you will need to set PACKAGESITE to a source of the new
> > packages
> > otherwise you will simply reinstall to old version. I used to use the
> > fruitsalad servers, although I build KDE from ports these days.
>
> Id use the port. But I have to remove kde3 first right?

Well, you were talking about using pkg_add which installs binary packages, 
rather than building a port.

In either case,  using portupgrade avoids manual deletion.
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Re: FreeBSD platform for "AMD Sempron 64 2600 (socket 754, Palermo) Box" ?

2005-11-07 Thread RW
On Monday 07 November 2005 12:37, Petr Karasek wrote:
> Dear ...,
> I would like to ask you
> to which platform belong this processor "AMD Sempron 64 2600 (socket 754,
> Palermo) Box" ?
>
> Is this the
>   FreeBSD/amd64 Platform
>   or
>   FreeBSD/i386 Platform


Any Sempron will run as i386

Some socket 754 semprons are a form of amd64 with less cache and the 64-bit 
mode disabled, but since it's designated as "AMD Sempron 64", I guess this 
isn't one of them, so it should be able to run amd64 as well. 

Some software will run quicker on amd64, but some ports don't yet work on it, 
for example wine and  the Nvidia driver (for 3d-support). 

I use i386 myself.
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Re: problem with linuxpluginwrapper

2005-11-16 Thread RW
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 04:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have just installed Gnome 2.12 on 6.0stable, and then installed
> linuxpluginwrapper from the port.  After installation I copied
> libmap.conf-FreeBSD6 to /etc/libmap.conf.  However, when I start Mozilla
> and goto the plugins page, there is nothing installed.  Any help to fix
> this is appreciated.
>


Try rebuilding with: 

WITH_PLUGINS=yes

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Re: Release engineering confusion

2005-11-16 Thread RW
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 23:38, Steve Bertrand wrote:

> In production (at an ISP), what is the best to follow...RELENGX_X or
> RELENG_X? I have 4.x, 5.x boxes in production, and this 6.x box is being
> prepared for the same.

See the Handbook:

20.2.2.2 Who Needs FreeBSD-STABLE?
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Re: EM64T supported?

2005-11-17 Thread RW
On Thursday 17 November 2005 19:14, Kövesdán Gábor wrote:
> EM64T is Intel's 64-bit processor architecture. It uses 64 bit registers
> so it gets around the 4GB limit. It is very similar to AMD64
> architecture ...


IA-64 was Intel's 64-bit architecture.  EM64T is Intel's attempt to make AMD64 
compatible processors.

Credit where credit's due. 

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Re: portssystem stale dependencies

2005-11-19 Thread RW
On Saturday 19 November 2005 10:37, Philip Lykke Carlsen wrote:
> .. does anyone know why the problem of stale dependencies in the package
> system occurs?.. it's just.. the system won't let you install any given
> port/package without having met all the dependencies.. 

That's not entirely true, it's really only portupgrade and it's associated 
tools that have a serious problem with stale dependencies. Portmanager is 
much more forgiving, as is direct "make install"  installation.
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Re: Showing Beastie at boot?

2005-11-22 Thread RW
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 23:44, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> David Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 5.4 showed an ASCII Beastie at boot, 6.0 shows "FreeBSD" in awful
> > ASCII-art text. As a Beastie traditionalist, what's the option to
> > display Beastie again?
> >
> > man loader.conf|grep -C2 -i beastie
>
>beastie_disable
>  If set to ``YES'', the beastie boot
> menu will be skipped.
>
>loader_logo (``fbsdbw'')
>  Selects a desired logo in the beastie
> boot menu.  Possi- ble values are: ``fbsdbw'', ``beastiebw'', ``beastie'',
> and ``none''.

Actually, that isn't in the 6.0 release:

  # man loader.conf | grep -C2 -i beastie
  # 

I got it from beastie.4th.
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Re: args to `make` within the ports tree

2005-11-24 Thread RW
On Wednesday 23 November 2005 20:57, Russell Meek wrote:
> Roland Smith wrote:
>
> >Try /usr/ports/KNOBS for the most common ones, and the Makefile of each
> >port for specific ones.
> >
> >Roland
>
> Many ports fail if you try to use extravagant make flags like what you
> would use with Gentoo.

I can't say I've ever seen anything like that myself, but I tend to set most 
of  them in make.conf like this:

.if ${.CURDIR:M*/www/linuxpluginwrapper}
WITH_PLUGINS=yes
.endif

Turning things on globally seems a bit dangerous to me.
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Re: dvd-ripping to iso on freebsd ...

2005-11-25 Thread RW
On Friday 25 November 2005 03:26, user wrote:
> Hello,
>
> What is a tool I can use on FreeBSD to rip dvd movies to _iso_ ?
>
> Every document I see refers to vobcopy, which is not what I want, as I
> want single-file iso dumps of the dvd.

The port sysutils/dvdbackup will backup a dvd to your harddrive. You can then 
either burn the directory, or create an iso, by the normal means described in 
the handbook.

I've copied a few this way, but the last couple I tried came out as 8GB and I 
gave up and transcoded them instead, as I didn't fancy burning any dual-layer 
coasters. I'd be intested to know whether such disks really are DVD9, or 
whether this is some form  of copy-protection, IIRC there was a trick with 
cross-linking that did that on some software CDs. 
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Cleaning-up stale PID files on reboot

2005-11-25 Thread RW
I start mlnet, the daemon part of mldonkey, from it's local rc.d script on 
bootup. If mlnet isn't shutdown properly, it leaves behind a pid file that 
prevents the daemon  running until I notice and manually delete the file. 

What's the best way to deal with this? I was wondering if there is some 
standard place to clean-up after an improper shutdown. 

Is mlnet doing something wrong?  I don't get the same problem with other 
daemons.
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Re: so much clock interrupts?!

2005-11-25 Thread RW
On Friday 25 November 2005 06:45, Markus Trippelsdorf wrote:
>   2000 interrupts per second per core for the timer is a
> ridiculous high number and I reduce it simply for aesthetic reasons.
> This may be a religious issue and everyone should use what he or she
> seems fitting.

If you think in a wider perspective, and consider the number of cpu cycles per 
interrupt on historical and embedded cpus, 2000 Hz is pretty conservative. 
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Re: about /usr/src/etc

2005-11-26 Thread RW
On Saturday 26 November 2005 12:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am unable to locate this folder (/usr/src/etc). I mean, it does not
> exist. I only have sys under /usr/src

You only have the kernel source, not the world source.  Try updating with 
cvsup as described in the handbook.
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Re: about /usr/src/etc

2005-11-26 Thread RW
On Saturday 26 November 2005 13:41, RW wrote:
> On Saturday 26 November 2005 12:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am unable to locate this folder (/usr/src/etc). I mean, it does not
> > exist. I only have sys under /usr/src
>
> You only have the kernel source, not the world source.  Try updating with
> cvsup as described in the handbook.

I missed the bit about missing man pages. I guess you did a very minimal 
install without manpages and with only the kernel source.

If you run sysinstall as root you can install the manpages and the full 
source. (Don't be put off by the word "full", it's just the source for the 
base system, It doesn't include package source.)
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Re: WARNING /usr was not properly dismounted ...

2005-11-26 Thread RW
On Saturday 26 November 2005 13:36, Kiffin Gish wrote:
> I'm using FreeBSD 5.4 at the moment, so does it take care of itself also?

I guess it will take care of itself on any version of FreeBSD. I think it's 
just the case that more modern versions (5.0 onwards?)  will check the 
non-root partitions in the background.
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Re: WARNING /usr was not properly dismounted ...

2005-11-26 Thread RW
On Saturday 26 November 2005 13:13, Alistair Sutton wrote:
> On 26/11/05, Kiffin Gish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > When I restarted by machine, I get the warning messages:
> >
> > WARNING /usr was not properly dismounted
> > WARNING /tmp was not properly dismounted
> > ...
> >
> > and for a number of other mount points.
> >
> > Are there any special precautions I need to take, some disk check utility
> > or whatever?
>
> Assuming you're running FreeBSD 6 (or -CURRENT) then unless you've
> knowingly turned off background fsck, all you need to do is just leave
> the system to check itself.

FWIW turning-off background fsck just means that the filesystems that would 
have been checked in the background, get checked before they are mounted, as 
part of the boot process.
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Re: KDE and PAM

2005-11-26 Thread RW
On Saturday 26 November 2005 16:48, Andrea Venturoli wrote:
> Hello.
> I've got a problem.
> I'm using KDE 3.4.3 on a 5.4p8 system: simply it does not check for
> password!!!
> At login (using kdm) I just enter my username and can leave the password
> field blank or type whatever I want. The same happens after the screen
> saver has locked up my session.
> Here's my /etc/pam.d/kde:

I don't really understand how this interacts with pam, but if you go to KDE 
control-centre, and look at the login manager section, what is "Enable 
Auto-login" set to?
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Re: System upgrade questions

2005-11-26 Thread RW
On Saturday 26 November 2005 17:38, Chris wrote:
> Miguel Saturnino wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > I have a FreeBSD 5.3 release system which was upgraded with CVSup to
> > RELENG_5. I have recently built a new kernel, but *have not* rebuilt
> > "world". The computer now says it's a "FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE" system.
> >
> > This can't be right, can it? :/
>> ...

> If the handbood TELLS you you need to buildworld, why would you think
> you would not?

Whilst that is a valid point, is "FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE" actually wrong for 
RELENG_5. 

RELENG_5_4 wouldn't call itself 5.4-STABLE, it would be something like 
5.4-RELEASE-p8
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Re: Compressed filesystem

2005-11-26 Thread RW
On Saturday 26 November 2005 18:45, Nils Vogels wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I'm looking for a way to have an on-the-fly compressed filesystem, to
> use as an archive under FreeBSD. So far, I've only been able to find
> solutions for Linux, are there any for FreeBSD as well ?

There's mkuzip, but it's read only.
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Re: Instructions for upgrading?

2005-11-26 Thread RW
On Saturday 26 November 2005 20:16, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:
> where can i find simple instructions for upgrading to
> a new major
> version? im running 4.10 right now and want to change
> to 6.0--why not? heh--but the installation page in the
> handbook just talks about doing it from
> scratch. and the entire "upgrade' section of the 6.0
> release notes just says
> "Source upgrades to FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE are only
> supported from FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE or later. Users of
> older systems wanting to upgrade 6.0-RELEASE will need
> to update to FreeBSD 5.3 or newer first, then to
> FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE. Important: Upgrading FreeBSD
> should, of course, only be attempted after backing up
> all data and configuration files." but doesnt say how
> to really do it.
>
> same with the 5.x release notes. im willing to do this
> in two step, from 4.10 to 5.4 and then to 6.0, if that
> is neccessary.

It's covered in chapter 20 of the handbook. Unfortunately it's under the 
rather misleading title "The Cutting Edge", because it's written in terms of 
tracking current/stable.  Upgrading to 5.4 and 6.0 is just the same, but with 
RELENG_5_4 and RELENG_6_0 as the release tags.  You should also look at the 
chapter on building the kernel, which gives more detail on that part of the 
process. 

You should disable any drivers in loader.conf that are built out of ports (eg 
nvidia). After the upgrade is done you will have to rebuild your ports or 
replace everything from packages.










> my laptop doesnt have a CD drive of a floppy drive, so
> i want to do it over the network but i need simple
> instructions if someone can help.
>
> thank you!
>
> jen
>
>
>
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Re: Yesterday's -STABLE kernel corrupts LAN

2005-11-26 Thread RW
On Saturday 26 November 2005 18:34, Derrick MacPherson wrote:

> Wow, if I could use that sarcasm to fuel my car I'd be happy. I guess we
> would be the only people to run current or stable on a production
> machine, and everyone else is using RELEASE? I guess I should have stuck
> with 4.1x considering all the initial troubles with 5.x, and not go to 6
> at all cause 

Those of us who are content to drive the latest model, should be gratefull 
that there are people who volunteer to be crash-test dummies.
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Re: linux partitions

2005-11-29 Thread RW
On Tuesday 29 November 2005 14:05, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> arden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I want to duel boot BSD with Slackware whats the best Linux file system
> > to use for reading and write to I would normally use ReiserFS would this
> > be ok ?
>
> reiserfs support in FreeBSD is read-only at the moment.  I believe the
> only filesystem that can be written to by both Linux and FreeBSD is FAT.

The last time I dual-booted to linux I used an ext3 partition to exchange 
data, FreeBSD can read/write this as ext2.
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Re: Upgrading to 60 question.

2005-11-29 Thread RW
On Tuesday 29 November 2005 14:01, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> The ports will continue to work, but you should update them when you
> get a chance so that they link against the 6.0 libraries instead of
> the old ones.

One exception is nvidia-driver, you must remove the driver from loader.conf 
and rebuild against 6.0 before re-enabling it.
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Re: system time "slowing down" ?

2005-11-29 Thread RW
On Tuesday 29 November 2005 12:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Pick any of them and add it/tem to /etc/ntp.conf, then set up things so
> that ntpd is started at boot time and you're set 

You really need ntpdate as well, which performs a gross correction during 
boot. If you already have ntp configured, just add  ntpdate_enable=YES to 
rc.conf.
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Re: XVideo-support gone

2005-11-29 Thread RW
On Tuesday 29 November 2005 14:43, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote:
> I'm not sure when this happened, but I'm not able to use the XVideo
> extension enymore. I'm 100% positive that I was able to before, but now
> MPlayer wont let me use it. xvinfo also says "no adaptors present".
>
> I imagine this might have happened during the 6.0-upgrade, but I can't say
> for sure. I upgraded by the usual cvsup/makeworld/etc-routine, and used my
> usual KERNCONF, so no changes there. Some apps still are 5.x-binaries, but
> I've portupgraded both xorg and mplayer just to be sure.

Did you try: portupgrade -Rf mplayer 
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Re: Upgrading to 60 question.

2005-11-29 Thread RW
On Tuesday 29 November 2005 18:53, Vizion wrote:
> On Tuesday 29 November 2005 07:16,  the author RW contributed to the
> dialogue on-
>
>  Re: Upgrading to 60 question.:
> >On Tuesday 29 November 2005 14:01, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> >> The ports will continue to work, but you should update them when you
> >> get a chance so that they link against the 6.0 libraries instead of
> >> the old ones.
> >
> >One exception is nvidia-driver, you must remove the driver from
> > loader.conf and rebuild against 6.0 before re-enabling it.
>
> Umph
>
> just checked loader.conf and the file is blank
>
> Man nv(4) refers to the nvidia driver - I am not certain where/how the
> driver is being loaded -- X must be using it!
> any ideas?

nv is the open-source driver. It's nvidia's own  driver (in the 
x11/nvidia-driver port) that's causes a problem.
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Re: Upgrading to 60 question.

2005-12-01 Thread RW
On Tuesday 29 November 2005 20:52, Vizion wrote:
> On Tuesday 29 November 2005 12:02,  the author RW contributed to the
> dialogue on-
>
>  Re: Upgrading to 60 question.:
> >On Tuesday 29 November 2005 18:53, Vizion wrote:
> >> On Tuesday 29 November 2005 07:16,  the author RW contributed to the
> >> dialogue on-
> >>
> >>  Re: Upgrading to 60 question.:
> >> >On Tuesday 29 November 2005 14:01, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> >> >> The ports will continue to work, but you should update them when you
> >> >> get a chance so that they link against the 6.0 libraries instead of
> >> >> the old ones.
> >> >
> >> >One exception is nvidia-driver, you must remove the driver from
> >> > loader.conf and rebuild against 6.0 before re-enabling it.
> >>
> >> Umph
> >>
> >> just checked loader.conf and the file is blank
> >>
> >> Man nv(4) refers to the nvidia driver - I am not certain where/how the
> >> driver is being loaded -- X must be using it!
> >> any ideas?
> >
> >nv is the open-source driver. It's nvidia's own  driver (in the
> >x11/nvidia-driver port) that's causes a problem.
> >___
>
> nvidia-driver and nvidia-setting are in /dev but I do not know where they
> are loaded from!

Don't worry unless you have the x11/nvidia-driver installed and 
nvidia_load=YES in loader.conf.
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Re: Update 5.4 -> 6.0

2005-12-01 Thread RW
On Thursday 01 December 2005 08:16, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> > It's my suspicion that updating 5.4 to 6.0 via CVSup leaves alot of old
> > libraries in place. Is this anywhere near correct?
> >...
> > Is there an easy way to fix them?
>...
> Software compiled under 5.x will almost definitely still run perfectly
> well when the box is upgraded to 6.0, but as soon as you start installing
> new software or upgrading some packages you'll start running into library
> version conflicts.  Re-installing wholesale will prevent that.

There are still about a dozen ports that directly depend on misc/compat5x - 
most notably the native opera port, and the nvidia driver port. I was just 
looking at how the compat5x port libraries get used, and it seems the 
abandoned 5x libraries are used in preference to those in the port despite 
the fact that the port may pickup security updates.

Is there any easy way to clean-out these libraries?
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Re: Questions about make arguments for ports

2005-12-01 Thread RW
On Wednesday 30 November 2005 13:00, Ashley Moran wrote:
> Hello,
>
> When upgrading a machine from FreeBSD 5.4 to 6.0 I came across the problem
> of how to re-compile all the ports to use FreeBSD 6 libraries so I can
> ditch the compat5x port.

Actually you can ditch it anyway, all of the library are either part of 6.0 or 
left behind from 5.4, but it's good to rebuild.

> man portupgrade I should # portupgrade -aRf to force a re-compile but that

The trouble with  portupgrade -af is that it is not restartable. I'd use 
either the latest portmanager, or  something like: 
portupgrade -f  '<2005-11-30 20:37' See pkg_glob(1)

> then brought up the issue of how to configure each build.  I found the
> section in pkgtools.conf that lets you specify arguments to pass to make
> but how do I deal with ports that have a config make target?
>
> I mean I could add MAKE_ARGS = { 'java/jdk115' => 'WITHOUT_WEB=1' } to
> pkgtools.conf, but is there a way to specify these arguments in this file,
> or is there no choice but to configure manually first time?

If you use BATCH=yes, most ports will do their best to come up with sensible 
settings based on the arguments you supply. 
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Re: pkg_add of CVSup errors when looking for dependencies

2005-12-02 Thread RW
On Friday 02 December 2005 09:06, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 12:05:11AM -0800, Jose Borquez wrote:
> > I am attempting to install the cvsup package I downloaded using pkg_add
> > -r cvsup-without-gui-16.1h_2.tbz, but I keep getting the following error:
> >
> > Error: FTP Unable to get
> > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.4-release/Latest/
> >cvsup-without-gui-16.1h_2.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no
> > access)
> > pkg_add: unable to fetch
> > 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.4-release/Latest
> >/cvsup-without-gui-16.1h_2.tbz' by URL
> >
> > It looks like the default link that cvsup attempts to look for
> > dependencies is incorrect.  How can I specify an alternate link for
> > cvsup to use?
>
> No, your command was incorrect: you don't specify a version with
> pkg_add -r, you just do pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui and it will give
> you whatever version is in the package tree.

The question is a bit ambiguous, but if you are trying do install a package 
you have already downloaded, don't use the -r option. 
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Re: How to upgrade gnome/glib/gt on 4.11

2005-12-02 Thread RW
On Friday 02 December 2005 19:28, Tuc at T-B-O-H wrote:
> Hi,
>
>   I was looking to upgrade using the :
>
>   http://www.marcuscom.com/downloads/gnome_upgrade212.sh
>
>   but it tells me that 4.11-STABLE isn't supported. Is there a
> procedure to do the upgrade?


If the new version of Gnome actually works on 4.11, then portupgrade can 
probably handle it.

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Re: How to upgrade gnome/glib/gt on 4.11

2005-12-02 Thread RW
On Saturday 03 December 2005 03:12, RW wrote:
> On Friday 02 December 2005 19:28, Tuc at T-B-O-H wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was looking to upgrade using the :
> >
> > http://www.marcuscom.com/downloads/gnome_upgrade212.sh
> >
> > but it tells me that 4.11-STABLE isn't supported. Is there a
> > procedure to do the upgrade?
>
> If the new version of Gnome actually works on 4.11, then portupgrade can
> probably handle it.

Oops. I meant portmanager
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Re: How often portupgrades?

2005-12-03 Thread RW
On Saturday 03 December 2005 19:56, Joerg Pernfuss wrote:
> Everybody has to figure out that one for himself, so, here is my
> rule of thumb:
>
>   Upgrade your ports only when you need to.
>
> If all installed ports work fine and a new version doesn't introduce
> some functionality you simply need to have, why update?
> Just for the sake of updateing?

No, because it's far less trouble to upgrade frequently than to  have to spend 
time working out when you need to upgrade. Even Microsoft now sees that 
running for long periods without updates, just because the applications work, 
is a bad idea.

I have a script that synchronizes  my ports tree, tells me what ports are old, 
and displays a diff comparing UPDATING to an older version.  A second script 
runs portmanager with nice. How difficult is that?

Any reasonably new pc should be able to build in the background without 
significant impact on desktop performance.

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Re: md5sum is missing, but not entirely

2007-01-17 Thread RW
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 07:36:30 -
"Martin Tournoij" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The command to calculate md5 sums is 'md5', not 'md5sum', and it is
> part of the base.
> 
> On my system (6.2-RC2)
> apropos md5 | grep sum:
> md5(1), sha1(1), sha256(1), rmd160(1) - calculate a message-digest  
> fingerprint (checksum) for a file.
> 
> Not sure why apropos md5 shows md5sum and gmd5sum (g for gnu?), maybe
> it's from a port.
> I also suspect that gmd5sum is a link to md5sum or vice versa.

The coreutils package installs the GNU utilities that form the basis of
Linux distributions - grep, chmod etc.  Since most of these names clash
with the FreeBSD base system, the binaries all get renamed with a
"g" prefix. The GNU docs still internally refer to them with their
original names e.g. "man gmd5sum" will refer to md5sum
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Re: FreeBSD challenged by Internet

2007-01-18 Thread RW
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 00:43:02 -0800
"Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Also, these companies simply
> cannot afford to put their best programming and design
> talent on solving things like slow DNS resolver queries
> through their proxy, when these problems are reported.

The OP said that there was no problem with linux and windows, and
that's consistent with what I saw on my d-link ADSL router. Presumably
FreeBSD is doing something slightly different. I wouldn't have expected
these things to be tested against *BSD, but you would think that OS-X
would behave like FreeBSD.


> Yet, do the customers that actually have these devices,
> after going through 2 or 3 of them in that many years,
> actually stop one day and say "Gee, I'm really stupid
> to keep urinating my money away on these cheezy
> little routers when I could spend $600 on a nice new
> Cisco 800 series and get expert Cisco support on it, and
> it would work and I could then just forget about it"

Draytek is a useful halfway house for domestic and soho use -  I've
never heard anyone have a bad word to say about their wired
dsl-routers. Cisco is overkill for most people. 

> config your DSL modem out of routing mode and into bridging
> mode.

That's doesn't really buy you all that much, cheap hardware isn't
going to be more reliable in bridged-mode. DNS proxy problems are
not a big deal since it's easy to manually configure servers, or turn-on
recursive lookups. It does eliminate the problems that some
NAT routers have with large numbers of simultaneous connections though.

These problems is particularly acute in countries where PPPoA is the
norm. FreeBSD has no significant support for usb or pci PPPoA modems,
that leaves us with routers, half-bridge modems, and full-bridging
(where the ISP supports PPPoE over atm). And these bridged modems are
really just adapted nat-routers. I do envy Linux's support for pci
PPPoA modems.


> Anyway, I think you should have availed yourself of your ISP's
> tech support department first.   And if your ISP's support
> department stinks - some unfortunately do - then drop service
> and get a better one.  There's plenty more ISP's in the
> phone book.

I doubt there is any reasonably priced ISP that will help in
troubleshooting a problem that's not reproducible on Windows.

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Re: FreeBSD challenged by Internet

2007-01-18 Thread RW
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:43:49 +
RW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The OP said that there was no problem with linux and windows,

Correction: "the OP said that there was no problem with linux"
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Re: (no subject)

2007-01-18 Thread RW
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 05:17:20 -0800 (PST)
anup roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> what is the differents beteween E1 link and PRI link. 
> why we use E1 link and why we use PRI link ?


PRI is an ISDN interface that can run on top of an E1.

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Re: FreeBSD challenged by Internet

2007-01-19 Thread RW
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:14:33 -0800
"Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "RW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:43 AM
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD challenged by Internet
> 
> > On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 00:43:02 -0800
> > "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > The OP said that there was no problem with linux and windows, and
> > that's consistent with what I saw on my d-link ADSL router.
> > Presumably FreeBSD is doing something slightly different.
> 
> Yes, it is, it's making IPv6 DNS queries. 

In my case, compiling-out IPv6 support from the kernel was the first
thing I tried, and it didn't make much difference. The DNS proxy worked
properly with Windows, but not FreeBSD.

> > These problems is particularly acute in countries where PPPoA is the
> > norm.

> And the other thing is that just about all the DSL setups I've seen in
> bridging mode do the PPPoE/PPPoA conversion automagically.

There's a history of PPPoE in the US, so people expect to have
it, even over ATM. In the UK BT turned-on "PPPoEoA" a few years ago, but
didn't really tell anyone, BT resellers generally don't provide much
support for it. LLU operators haven't bothered, because there's no real
demand.



 

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Re: Hide ports make options/config

2007-01-19 Thread RW
On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 03:21:07 -0500
"Charlie Hynson III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am making myself an easy install sh shell script that configures my
> own basic setup on FreeBSD 6.2 Release. Wondering how I tell make when
> installing a port not to ask me make options/config (silent install).
> For all ports and or individual ports. Since I have my make options
> set in pkgtools config for sysutils/portupgrade.

Unless the behaviour of portupgrade has changed recently, this is a bad
idea. The options in pkgtools.conf only apply to ports that portupgrade
builds directly. During an initial  installation most of the ports get
built as missing dependencies, so miss the options set in pkgtools.conf.

A better way is to set the options in make.conf either directly or by
using sysutils/portconf.
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Re: Password on command line with SCP

2007-01-20 Thread RW
On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:38:44 -0800
"Don O'Neil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Is there any way to pass the password for an SCP command via the
> command line as a switch? I'd like to embed SCP in a script and pass
> the password once through a command line input from the master
> script... By defauly any time I use the -B mode it says passwords are
> required, and without -B it asks for the password after the command
> starts to execute.

Can you not just use:

   :@

in place of the hostname? 
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Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD

2007-01-20 Thread RW
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 10:03:22 -0500
Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Anyone with experience using their optical mouse under FreeBSD? All
> input will be very much appreciated.

There are differences between individual models, but in general it
doesn't matter whether it's optical or mechanical. 
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Re: 5.3 -> 6.2 should work right?

2007-01-24 Thread RW
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:44:26 +0100
Nagy László Zsolt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> By the way, updating a system from 5 to 6 is a headache. (Updating
> from 4 to 5 is much easier.) Many will suggest (including me) to
> install your new 6.2 system from binaries, and then transfer your
> programs and users, if possible.

That an odd thing to say. The major version number was only bumped to 6
because some interfaces changed. I remember it as a particularly easy
upgrade, simpler than the average 5.x to 5.x+1 upgrade. The 4.x to 5.x
upgrade was one of the most radical.
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Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD

2007-01-25 Thread RW
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:36:38 -0800
"Kevin Downey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Xorg -configure now puts:
> Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
> in the mouse section by default, which is all I've ever needed to make
> the scrollwheel work
 I have 

Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"

I think you only need the other two values on a mouse with a second
scroll wheel. 
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Re: FreeBSD Torrent Server

2007-02-01 Thread RW
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 05:02:02 -0800
"Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> using a service, bittorrent,
> that is extremely heavily used for distribution of pirated software
> and music,
> to distribute FreeBSD.

Bittorrent is a protocol, not a service or network.

It scales much better than http and ftp under high demand.
Download speeds with Bittorrent gets faster and then level-out, as a
function of demand, which is the opposite of FTP. It's very well
suited for software release ISOs where there's high demand for
downloads immediately after a new release. With open source
software it also benefits from a substantial amount of goodwill.

The bottom line is that if the existing FTP servers allow everyone
to download at line-rate the day after a new release, and the
bandwidth cost is not a problem, then there's no need for
Bittorrent - otherwise I can't see a case against it. 
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Re: Flash Player

2007-02-02 Thread RW
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 12:23:42 -0500
"Michael M. Press" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > I am running firefox from the ports and have the following ports
> > installed to try and make this work but it will not.
> >
> >
> > flashplugin-mozilla-0.4.13 A GPL standalone Flash (TM) plugin for
> > Mozilla web browser libflash-0.4.13_1 GPL Flash (TM) Library
> > linux-flashplugin-7.0r69 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI Plugin
> >
> > gnash-0.7.1_1 GNU Flash movie player
> >
> > firefox-2.0.0.1_1,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of
> > Mozilla
> >
> 
> I would recommend installing the linux-firefox port. It can coexist
> with the native freebsd firefox that you already have (in case you
> want to keep it for some reason),

although you can't run them both at the same time.

I've found that Opera is better under linux emulation, than Firefox.
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Re: Rc.Local

2007-02-04 Thread RW
On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 18:56:15 -0600
Paul Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --On February 3, 2007 7:05:12 PM -0500 Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > My Question: Where is the proper place under FreeBSD, to put truly
> > local start-up commands? Commands I want executed at the very END
> > of the boot process, and which are truly LOCAL?
> >
> man (8) rc
> 
> /usr/local/etc/rc.d/rc.local

/usr/local/etc/rc.d/ is a replacement for rc.local, so it would be odd
if /usr/local/etc/rc.d/rc.local had any special significance. 



I don't even have an rc.local file, so it doesn't play a part in the
normal boot process, and I assume it's only really deprecated for use
by packages, which should install a script instead. 
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Re: Portmanager - not working after ports change

2007-02-06 Thread RW
On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:14:16 -0800 (PST)
White Hat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There was a change in the ports system -
> /usr/ports/UPDATING 20070205 - which now renders
> portmanager unable to run correctly. While it is
> possible to update a single port; i.e., "portmanager
> /path/to-port/", if I attempt to do a general ports
> update; i.e., "portmanager -u", I receive the
> following error message:
> 
> percentDone-=>0 = 100 - ( 100 * ( oldPortsDbQTY-=>6 /
> oldPortsDbTOTALIZER-=>6 ))
> cd: can't cd to /usr/ports/sysutils/portmanager
> rBsdPortMkPatch 0.4.1_7 error: bsd.port.mk
> /usr/ports/Mk unable to restored from back up   cp
> /usr/local/share/portmanager/bsd.port.mk-BACKUP
> /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk
> 
> I tried deinstalling portmanager and then installing
> it from its new port directory; however, that failed
> to alleviate the problem.
> 
> Has anyone else experienced this problem, and perhaps
> have a solution?

Probably it's just that someone need to patch it to change
"sysutils/portmanager" to "ports-mgmt/portmanager" in the source.

As a workaround try linking portmanager's new port directory to where
its old one was. As there will be a MOVED entry it's probably best to
use it with the new origin, but make sure portmanager is up-to-date
before running it on multiple ports, it wont be able to detect a
self-update, and it doesn't like to do that as part of a general ports'
update.
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Re: Portmanager - not working after ports change

2007-02-06 Thread RW
On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 08:37:15 -0500
Gerard Seibert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> I reported this problem around 10 am. yesterday. Sometime around 2
> pm. a patch was submitted. An updated version of 'portmanager' was in
> the port's system by 4 pm. Personally, I consider that a rather quick
> fix.

I see it has a maintainer now.



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Re: VMware equivalent?

2007-02-06 Thread RW
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:15:47 -0500
Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 04:51:31PM -0800, Kurt Buff wrote:
> 
> > Xen?
> 
> Xen is an interesting system, but so far as I know, so far, it
> requires a Linux host - either Red Hat or Suse. 

I think most Linux distributions have it, and NetBSD (presumably it was
prioritized because it's the most portable free OS)
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Re: VMware equivalent?

2007-02-06 Thread RW
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 07:45:43 -0800 (PST)
Chris Maness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have been running vmware, and it works very well, but if I can find
> a open source version that works well, I would like to move in that 
> direction.  Thanks for the tips guys.

If you do try qemu try building it with kqemu support. qemu does full
emulation (which is needed for running an OS for a different platform).
kqemu allows some of the guest OS instructions to run directly on the
CPU, which is much faster.   kqemu is not as mature as qemu, and if it
doesn't works for you, you will find qemu much slower than vmware
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Re: /tmp getting full form portmanager

2007-02-08 Thread RW
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 21:32:53 -0800
Noah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> >
> > From rc.conf(5):
> >
> >  clear_tmp_enable
> >  (bool) Set to ``YES'' to have /tmp cleaned at
> > startup.
> >

And also daily_clean_tmps_enable (in periodic.conf)

> > Why not setup a parallel (background) task with a wrapper script to 
> > delete some files when upgrading ports? Either that or find a
> > (more) free partition and symlink /var/tmp to it.
> >
> 
> 
> yeah out of all the ideas this seems the easiest to implement and
> just makes sense but I am having difficulties creating the sym link
> for /tmp

That doesn't make sense to me, it just sweeps the problem under the
carpet. At the moment I'm in the middle of an upgrade with portmanager,
and the *total* space used on /tmp is 1MB.

How much of /tmp is actually in use by portmanager.

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Re: /tmp getting full form portmanager

2007-02-08 Thread RW
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:59:28 -0500
Robert Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> RW writes:
> 
> >  > >  clear_tmp_enable
> >  > >  (bool) Set to ``YES'' to have /tmp cleaned at
> >  > > startup.
> >  
> >  And also daily_clean_tmps_enable (in periodic.conf)
> 
>   Before doing this, understand the consequences,
>   There's stuff in my /tmp ... I understand /who/ put it there,
> but not /why/.  Until I affirmatively know it's safe to delete, not
> going to blindly reap the directory.


It's not really doing it blindly, it only removes directories and
ordinary files that haven't been accessed for three days
(or whatever daily_clean_tmps_days is set to). There is also a list of
things to ignore.

It's safer than setting clear_tmp_enable with a /tmp linked
to /var/tmp, since that's the proper place for temporary files that
should survive a reboot.

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Re: DJBDNS missing from ports?

2007-02-12 Thread RW
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 11:43:43 +0100
Roger Olofsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dear Mailing List,
> 
> After a recent buildworld (6.2-STABLE FreeBSD) and portsnap fetch 
> portversion reported djbdns as being in need of an upgrade, however 
> portupgrade just exits like so:
> 
> # portupgrade -Rr djbdns-ipv6
> #
> 
> ie, nothing happens.
> 
> A quick locate djbdns | grep ports gave the results that it might be
> on the move from ports/dns to ports/net but there are no files for it
> in net and the one in dns looks to be the one I have installed.

pkg_info -o "*djbdns*" 

will tell you the full package name and origin

However a similar thing recently happened to me, after the move of
portupgrade to a new category. I tried to run portupgrade on a port
and nothing happened. I'm not sure why it worked, because I didn't get
"Command not found", but typing rehash fixed it.  

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