Re: Building a Stable Secure FreeBSD Mail server

2004-06-26 Thread Joshua Lewis
The MTA is PostFix

http://bsdhound.com/downloads/Creating_a_Stable_Secure_FreeBSD_Mailserver.pdf

Document date is 10/17/2003

So it is not to old. So far it is pretty accurate.


Thank you,
Joshua Lewis



dave
> Hi,
> What mail server was this doc dealing with and can you give me the
> address? Some clues as to the age is what version of fbsd was being
> discussed, currently 4.10 is production stable while 5.2.1 is new
> technology, even though i use that on my production systems.
> Not sure as to the difference between md5 and blf password hashing, i
> do
> know that they both are methods of encrypting a password and supposedly
> blf
> is more secure but it also doesn't have compatibility with anything else.
> HTH.
> Dave.
>
>

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Re: Building a Stable Secure FreeBSD Mail server

2004-06-26 Thread Danny MacMillan
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 02:07:13 -0600, Joshua Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

...
"I like to change the default algorithm used when encrypting a user's
password to the blowfish algorithm, as it provides the highest security  
at the greatest speed.

Is this an accurate statement? My current passwd_format is set to md5 and
I thought md5 was like "Da Bomb"(Ok white guy trying to be funny here).
...
Well, I'm no expert, but I stumbled across something interesting the other  
day after installing /usr/ports/security/john.  It's a password cracker  
with a benchmarking component:

procyon# john --test
Benchmarking: Traditional DES [64/64 BS MMX]... DONE
Many salts: 301915 c/s real, 302860 c/s virtual
Only one salt:  258079 c/s real, 258483 c/s virtual
Benchmarking: BSDI DES (x725) [64/64 BS MMX]... DONE
Many salts: 10083 c/s real, 10099 c/s virtual
Only one salt:  9830 c/s real, 9923 c/s virtual
Benchmarking: FreeBSD MD5 [32/32]... DONE
Raw:2375 c/s real, 2382 c/s virtual
Benchmarking: OpenBSD Blowfish (x32) [32/32]... DONE
Raw:139 c/s real, 140 c/s virtual
Benchmarking: Kerberos AFS DES [48/64 4K MMX]... DONE
Short:  59810 c/s real, 59997 c/s virtual
Long:   200442 c/s real, 201069 c/s virtual
Benchmarking: NT LM DES [64/64 BS MMX]... DONE
Raw:1849998 c/s real, 1852889 c/s virtual
Obviously, the security of an encryption algorithm is a many-splendoured  
thing, etc., but the above results seem to indicate that brute-forcing  
Blowfish is many times more computationally intensive (i.e. 'harder') than  
brute-forcing MD5.  That's if I'm reading it right; I'm assuming c/s =  
"combinations per second".  There's no man page and the internet frightens  
and confuses me.

I really doubt Blowfish is =faster= than MD5 when encrypting.
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Re: Building a Stable Secure FreeBSD Mail server

2004-06-26 Thread Bill Moran
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Saturday 26 June 2004 09:43 am, Joey Mingrone wrote:
> > A little googling turned up:
> > http://gene.wins.uva.nl/~jmsteggi/Creating_a_Stable_Secure_FreeBSD_Mailserv
> >er.pdf
> 
> Ahh yes - this IS a good doc. I have had it for a few months. I was hoping 
> that it might have been an updated version. None the less, it's one doc that 
> I keep in my "Keep" directory.

Like many documents, it's both good and bad.  The author gives an excellent
(and complete) description of setuid/gid, permissions, and flags ... but then
he goes on to arbitrarily announce that you should increase both send and
receive TCP buffers to 64k, with no explanation.  Jacking these values up
is not always a good idea, and I doubt if it's a good idea with a mail
server.

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Re: Building a Stable Secure FreeBSD Mail server

2004-06-26 Thread Chris
On Saturday 26 June 2004 09:43 am, Joey Mingrone wrote:
> A little googling turned up:
> http://gene.wins.uva.nl/~jmsteggi/Creating_a_Stable_Secure_FreeBSD_Mailserv
>er.pdf

Ahh yes - this IS a good doc. I have had it for a few months. I was hoping 
that it might have been an updated version. None the less, it's one doc that 
I keep in my "Keep" directory.

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Re: Building a Stable Secure FreeBSD Mail server

2004-06-26 Thread Joey Mingrone
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A little googling turned up: 
http://gene.wins.uva.nl/~jmsteggi/Creating_a_Stable_Secure_FreeBSD_Mailserver.pdf

joey

On June 26, 2004 11:35, Chris wrote:
> On Saturday 26 June 2004 03:07 am, Joshua Lewis wrote:
> > I have located what I feel is a very complete document on Building a
> > Stable Secure FreeBSD Mail server (That happens to be the name of the Doc
> > too. Go figure)
>
> Perhaps you might like to share the location of this document with the
> list?
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Chris
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Re: Building a Stable Secure FreeBSD Mail server

2004-06-26 Thread Chris
On Saturday 26 June 2004 03:07 am, Joshua Lewis wrote:
> I have located what I feel is a very complete document on Building a
> Stable Secure FreeBSD Mail server (That happens to be the name of the Doc
> too. Go figure)
>

Perhaps you might like to share the location of this document with the list?

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Re: Building a Stable Secure FreeBSD Mail server

2004-06-26 Thread Bill Moran
"Joshua Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have located what I feel is a very complete document on Building a
> Stable Secure FreeBSD Mail server (That happens to be the name of the Doc
> too. Go figure)
> 
> I am not sure what the age of this document is. In the document it reads:
> 
> "I like to change the default algorithm used when encrypting a user's
> password to the blowfish algorithm, as it provides the highest security at
> the greatest speed.
> 
> Is this an accurate statement? My current passwd_format is set to md5 and
> I thought md5 was like "Da Bomb"(Ok white guy trying to be funny here).
> 
> I am still pretty new, so I don't know the difference between these
> different algorithms. Any thoughts, comments, personal preferences (along
> with an understandable explanation would be nice) are appreciated.

As far as I know, Blowfish is the best encryption algorithm for this purpose
at this time, which (to my knowledge) is why OpenBSD uses it by default.

I don't believe it's the fastest, however, but I could be wrong there.

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Building a Stable Secure FreeBSD Mail server

2004-06-26 Thread Joshua Lewis
I have located what I feel is a very complete document on Building a
Stable Secure FreeBSD Mail server (That happens to be the name of the Doc
too. Go figure)

I am not sure what the age of this document is. In the document it reads:

"I like to change the default algorithm used when encrypting a user's
password to the blowfish algorithm, as it provides the highest security at
the greatest speed.

Is this an accurate statement? My current passwd_format is set to md5 and
I thought md5 was like "Da Bomb"(Ok white guy trying to be funny here).

I am still pretty new, so I don't know the difference between these
different algorithms. Any thoughts, comments, personal preferences (along
with an understandable explanation would be nice) are appreciated.


Thank you,
Joshua Lewis

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