Re: Finding Drivers For winWiFi Card

2010-01-26 Thread Programmer In Training
On 1/24/2010 12:00 AM, Warren Block wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010, Programmer In Training wrote:
> 
>> This is probably the wrong place to ask, and if it is I ask your
>> forgiveness.
>>
>> I'm browsing the FTP server for FreeBSD-8.0 packages[0] and am looking
>> for drivers for my winWiFi card (zonenet, unsure of chipset currently)
>> and realized, I'm not sure what package I would need for that.
> 
> Post the model number of the Zonet card.  Is it PCI or USB?
> 
> You could try just loading all of the wireless kernel modules and seeing
> if any of them find the hardware.  There's a list of those in the See
> Also section for wlan(4).
> 
> -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA

I'm going to have to do that because the one provided by the company
that put out the card are for FreeBSD 7.0. I tried using it anyway and
the moment I went to load the kernel, it caused my computer to reboot
without warning.

It's PCI and I have no clue as to the model number anymore.
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Re: Finding Drivers For winWiFi Card

2010-01-24 Thread Programmer In Training
On 1/24/2010 9:55 PM, Programmer In Training wrote:
> On 1/24/2010 6:35 PM, Polytropon wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 07:13:05 -0600, Programmer In Training 
>>  wrote:
>>> I'll post here later on today, after
>>> I've burned the file to disc (no floppy drive on either computer).
>>
>> No possibility to transfer the file via wired network? Your
>> RealTek NIC works out of the box. Or maybe use an USB stick?


Forgot to mention, I don't own a USB Stick (yet). I intend to get about
two dozen 4GB models when I can (so I can start distributing my PGP Pub
Key in person with others so I can say I fully trust them and that key
and vice-versa, important for taking steps in doing other verification
for products like the Pidgin plugin, OTR (Off-the-Record)).

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Re: Finding Drivers For winWiFi Card

2010-01-24 Thread Programmer In Training
On 1/24/2010 6:35 PM, Polytropon wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 07:13:05 -0600, Programmer In Training 
>  wrote:
>> I'll post here later on today, after
>> I've burned the file to disc (no floppy drive on either computer).
> 
> No possibility to transfer the file via wired network? Your
> RealTek NIC works out of the box. Or maybe use an USB stick?
> 
> 
> 

No. Right now I'd have to move the box halfway across the house into a
room that's already too crammed for what's in there. I have considered
just running the cable, but I'd have to do so on a day my 3 year old
nephew isn't home (one home, 8 people, don't ask) or risk all sorts of
problems (nephew tripping and hurting self (biggest concern), nephew
tripping and ripping out the cable from the connector, nephew tripping
and damaging the router (which would kill entire home network), dogs
doing same thing).

No floppy disk drive, so only safe option is to burn a CD. IF I can do
the run-to-router-with-CAT5 option, that would be ideal (and then there
would be no issue, I'd be installing ports like mad until I had the
system set up the way I want).

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Re: Finding Drivers For winWiFi Card

2010-01-24 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 07:13:05 -0600, Programmer In Training 
 wrote:
> I'll post here later on today, after
> I've burned the file to disc (no floppy drive on either computer).

No possibility to transfer the file via wired network? Your
RealTek NIC works out of the box. Or maybe use an USB stick?



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Re: Finding Drivers For winWiFi Card

2010-01-24 Thread Programmer In Training
On 1/24/2010 6:27 AM, Programmer In Training wrote:
> Do not CC me. I am subscribed to the list. There is no need. THANK YOU.
> 
> On 1/24/2010 6:22 AM, Roland Smith wrote:
> 
>> zgrep Libertas /usr/share/man/man4/*
>> /usr/share/man/man4/if_malo.4.gz:.Nd "Marvell Libertas IEEE 802.11b/g 
>> wireless network driver"
>>
>> So go and read if_malo(4). It looks like your card is supported, but you 
>> need to
>> download a firmware package. This driver was added in 7.1, according to the 
>> manpage.
>>
>> Roland
> 
> Thanks.
> 

Thanks for the help folks. I've found everything I need, I believe, now
to just do what needs to be done. I'll post here later on today, after
I've burned the file to disc (no floppy drive on either computer).

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Re: Finding Drivers For winWiFi Card

2010-01-24 Thread Programmer In Training
Do not CC me. I am subscribed to the list. There is no need. THANK YOU.

On 1/24/2010 6:22 AM, Roland Smith wrote:

> zgrep Libertas /usr/share/man/man4/*
> /usr/share/man/man4/if_malo.4.gz:.Nd "Marvell Libertas IEEE 802.11b/g 
> wireless network driver"
> 
> So go and read if_malo(4). It looks like your card is supported, but you need 
> to
> download a firmware package. This driver was added in 7.1, according to the 
> manpage.
> 
> Roland

Thanks.

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Re: Finding Drivers For winWiFi Card

2010-01-24 Thread Roland Smith
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 05:31:53AM -0600, Programmer In Training wrote:
> Thanks, this probably wouldn't be such an issue if I hadn't thrown away
> the box two-three weeks ago (at least, I think I threw it out; I've had
> the card for about a two years).
> 
> 
> no...@pci0:2:2:0: class 0x2 card=0x1faa11ab chip=0x00351033 rev=0x43
> hdr=0x00
>   vendor = 'Marvell Semiconductor (Was: Galileo Technology LLC)'
>   device = 'Marvell Libertas 02.llb/g Wireless (8335)'
>   class = network
>   subclass = ethernet

zgrep Libertas /usr/share/man/man4/*
/usr/share/man/man4/if_malo.4.gz:.Nd "Marvell Libertas IEEE 802.11b/g wireless 
network driver"

So go and read if_malo(4). It looks like your card is supported, but you need to
download a firmware package. This driver was added in 7.1, according to the 
manpage.

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Re: Finding Drivers For winWiFi Card

2010-01-24 Thread Programmer In Training
On 1/23/2010 10:51 PM, Polytropon wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:35:32 -0600, Programmer In Training 
>  wrote:
>> I hope ifconfig will help more then dmesg as I have no way of getting
>> files (like dmesg.log that I created) off the box (floppy drive isn't
>> even hooked up, IIRC) and rl0 is my wired NIC, non-internal.
> 
> The ifconfig program (often used as "ifconfig -a") tells
> you only about NICs that are already connected to a driver.
> Most wireless NICs require loading a specific kernel module
> (which is not in the GENERIC kernel), and therefore it's
> helpful to know what exact model it is, so you can load the
> correct driver. There are of course programs that help you
> with this: "pciconf -lv" and "usbdevs -v" are common tools


Thanks, this probably wouldn't be such an issue if I hadn't thrown away
the box two-three weeks ago (at least, I think I threw it out; I've had
the card for about a two years).


no...@pci0:2:2:0: class 0x2 card=0x1faa11ab chip=0x00351033 rev=0x43
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Marvell Semiconductor (Was: Galileo Technology LLC)'
device = 'Marvell Libertas 02.llb/g Wireless (8335)'
class = network
subclass = ethernet


I can't find any wlan modules in /boot/kernel that aren't already loaded.

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Re: Finding Drivers For winWiFi Card

2010-01-23 Thread Warren Block

On Sat, 23 Jan 2010, Programmer In Training wrote:


This is probably the wrong place to ask, and if it is I ask your
forgiveness.

I'm browsing the FTP server for FreeBSD-8.0 packages[0] and am looking
for drivers for my winWiFi card (zonenet, unsure of chipset currently)
and realized, I'm not sure what package I would need for that.


Post the model number of the Zonet card.  Is it PCI or USB?

You could try just loading all of the wireless kernel modules and seeing 
if any of them find the hardware.  There's a list of those in the See 
Also section for wlan(4).


-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: Finding Drivers For winWiFi Card

2010-01-23 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 23:45:38 -0500, Glen Barber  wrote:
> I believe the intent is to use the integrated wireless chipset, not the
> ethernet.

I see, I just wanted to point out a "Linuxism" that could
lead to misunderstandings, as well as to mention FreeBSD's
excellent documentation in this context. :-)



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Re: Finding Drivers For winWiFi Card

2010-01-23 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:35:32 -0600, Programmer In Training 
 wrote:
> I hope ifconfig will help more then dmesg as I have no way of getting
> files (like dmesg.log that I created) off the box (floppy drive isn't
> even hooked up, IIRC) and rl0 is my wired NIC, non-internal.

The ifconfig program (often used as "ifconfig -a") tells
you only about NICs that are already connected to a driver.
Most wireless NICs require loading a specific kernel module
(which is not in the GENERIC kernel), and therefore it's
helpful to know what exact model it is, so you can load the
correct driver. There are of course programs that help you
with this: "pciconf -lv" and "usbdevs -v" are common tools
for this particular tasks. As soon as you can tell what the
name of the wireless NIC is, you can check which driver it
needs and the load it, e. g. with "kldload if_bge.ko", where
"bge" is the name of the driver (remember to check "man bge"
to see what it is intended for). As soon as you've loaded
it, "dmesg" will show its existance and "ifconfig -a" will
print its settings.

PS. The plip0 interface is the "printer port Internet Protocol
driver".



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Re: Finding Drivers For winWiFi Card

2010-01-23 Thread Glen Barber
Polytropon wrote: 
> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:26:33 -0600, Programmer In Training 
>  wrote:
> > >> [...]
> > >> set up eth0 (wired NIC, realtek) as that would mean lugging my box
> > >> halfway across the house into a room with no room in it for me and my
> > >> [...]
[...]
> 
> You've already given the correct answer: Realtek wired NIC.
> This the rl driver; "eth" is a Linuxism, in FreeBSD every NIC,
> wireless or wired, is represented by a device file named after
> the driver.
> 

I believe the intent is to use the integrated wireless chipset, not the
ethernet.

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Re: Finding Drivers For winWiFi Card

2010-01-23 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:26:33 -0600, Programmer In Training 
 wrote:
> >> [...]
> >> set up eth0 (wired NIC, realtek) as that would mean lugging my box
> >> halfway across the house into a room with no room in it for me and my
> >> [...]
> [...]
> #ifconfig
> rl0: flags=8802 metric 0 mtu 1500
>   options=8
>   ether 00:40:ca:35:6c:09
>   media: ethernet autoselect
>   status: no carrier
> plip0: flags=8810 metric 0 mtu 1500
> lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384
>   options=3
>   inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 [I am absolutely sure that
> percent sign is correct]
>   inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
>   inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00
> 
> Should I assume that rl0 is the wireless? I'm not sure what plip0 is and
> I know lo0 is my wired nic.

You've already given the correct answer: Realtek wired NIC.
This the rl driver; "eth" is a Linuxism, in FreeBSD every NIC,
wireless or wired, is represented by a device file named after
the driver.

If you're not sure what something is, try FreeBSD's excellent
manpage system. You'll be surprised how much information is
in there, in opposite to many Linusi:

% whatis lo
lo(4)- software loopback network interface

The lo0 is NOT your wired NIC. That's this one:

% whatis rl
rl(4)- RealTek 8129/8139 Fast Ethernet device driver

You can access information about nearly everything in FreeBSD
via the apropos, whatis and man commands - be it system binaries,
library functions, kernel calls, configuration files, maintenance
procedures and misc. documentation topics.

So THAT's awesome! :-)



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Re: Finding Drivers For winWiFi Card

2010-01-23 Thread Glen Barber
Programmer In Training wrote: 
> On 1/23/2010 10:05 PM, Glen Barber wrote:
[huge snip]

> 
> Should I assume that rl0 is the wireless? I'm not sure what plip0 is and
> I know lo0 is my wired nic.

rl0 is your physical NIC, lo0 is the loopback.

>From your other reply, I think you already noticed that.

Try this, paying particular attention to any lines beginning with 'none':

pciconf -lv

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Re: Finding Drivers For winWiFi Card

2010-01-23 Thread Programmer In Training
On 1/23/2010 10:26 PM, Programmer In Training wrote:

> #ifconfig
> rl0: flags=8802 metric 0 mtu 1500
>   options=8
>   ether 00:40:ca:35:6c:09
>   media: ethernet autoselect
>   status: no carrier
> plip0: flags=8810 metric 0 mtu 1500
> lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384
>   options=3
>   inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 [I am absolutely sure that
> percent sign is correct]
>   inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
>   inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00
> 
> Should I assume that rl0 is the wireless? I'm not sure what plip0 is and
> I know lo0 is my wired nic.
> 

Haha, assumptions rock. Not. rl0 is my wired NIC.

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Re: Finding Drivers For winWiFi Card

2010-01-23 Thread Programmer In Training
On 1/23/2010 10:07 PM, Glen Barber wrote:
> Glen Barber wrote: 
>> What is listed with ifconfig(8)?  That will help determine the driver (if
>> it is supported).
>>
> 
> Oops... Meant to say dmesg; perhaps ifconfig will help as well, though.
> 
> Regards,
> 

I hope ifconfig will help more then dmesg as I have no way of getting
files (like dmesg.log that I created) off the box (floppy drive isn't
even hooked up, IIRC) and rl0 is my wired NIC, non-internal.

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Re: Finding Drivers For winWiFi Card

2010-01-23 Thread Programmer In Training
On 1/23/2010 10:05 PM, Glen Barber wrote:
> Programmer In Training wrote: 
>> This is probably the wrong place to ask, and if it is I ask your
>> forgiveness.
>>
> 
> Nope, this is the right place.

Awesome

>> I'm browsing the FTP server for FreeBSD-8.0 packages[0] and am looking
>> for drivers for my winWiFi card (zonenet, unsure of chipset currently)
>> and realized, I'm not sure what package I would need for that. I didn't
>> set up eth0 (wired NIC, realtek) as that would mean lugging my box
>> halfway across the house into a room with no room in it for me and my
>> box. I figured I could just set my wireless card up after install, not
>> thinking I wouldn't have a clue as to what I'm doing.
>>
> 
> That is the wrong place. :)

Which is OK. At least I only downloaded a dozen files. ;)

> 
> What is listed with ifconfig(8)?  That will help determine the driver (if
> it is supported).

(this is all typed out so please excuse typos)

#ifconfig
rl0: flags=8802 metric 0 mtu 1500
options=8
ether 00:40:ca:35:6c:09
media: ethernet autoselect
status: no carrier
plip0: flags=8810 metric 0 mtu 1500
lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384
options=3
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 [I am absolutely sure that
percent sign is correct]
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00

Should I assume that rl0 is the wireless? I'm not sure what plip0 is and
I know lo0 is my wired nic.

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Re: Finding Drivers For winWiFi Card

2010-01-23 Thread Glen Barber
Glen Barber wrote: 
> What is listed with ifconfig(8)?  That will help determine the driver (if
> it is supported).
> 

Oops... Meant to say dmesg; perhaps ifconfig will help as well, though.

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Re: Finding Drivers For winWiFi Card

2010-01-23 Thread Glen Barber
Programmer In Training wrote: 
> This is probably the wrong place to ask, and if it is I ask your
> forgiveness.
> 

Nope, this is the right place.

> I'm browsing the FTP server for FreeBSD-8.0 packages[0] and am looking
> for drivers for my winWiFi card (zonenet, unsure of chipset currently)
> and realized, I'm not sure what package I would need for that. I didn't
> set up eth0 (wired NIC, realtek) as that would mean lugging my box
> halfway across the house into a room with no room in it for me and my
> box. I figured I could just set my wireless card up after install, not
> thinking I wouldn't have a clue as to what I'm doing.
> 

That is the wrong place. :)

What is listed with ifconfig(8)?  That will help determine the driver (if
it is supported).

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Finding Drivers For winWiFi Card

2010-01-23 Thread Programmer In Training
This is probably the wrong place to ask, and if it is I ask your
forgiveness.

I'm browsing the FTP server for FreeBSD-8.0 packages[0] and am looking
for drivers for my winWiFi card (zonenet, unsure of chipset currently)
and realized, I'm not sure what package I would need for that. I didn't
set up eth0 (wired NIC, realtek) as that would mean lugging my box
halfway across the house into a room with no room in it for me and my
box. I figured I could just set my wireless card up after install, not
thinking I wouldn't have a clue as to what I'm doing.

Any clues as to what part of the FTP server I should be looking in? I'm
looking at the packages under net/ but looking at them they all seem to
be for someone with a working connection (icecast, nbd-server, etc).
Thoughts?

[0]: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.0-release/
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